Seems like you got a significantly better lot than I did... Nearly everything I got is a decade old, with quite a few damaged packs and with only one soft pack
I have processed about a box and a half of these and have gotten almost all sanyo, samsung, lg or sony cells. The small panisonic batteries have vtc4s with low usage, one of the boxes had a brand new unboxed module with 3 vtc4s in it. I think this is a great deal for cells and I bought 4 more
I just finished my 30lbs and it came with 2 of those large packs with moli cells and all 48 of the cells tested between 2330 and 2492. 24 of the cells were dated December 2015 and the other 24 were October 2016. No Samsung, 9 lg 2200 cells that also tested above capacity, 12 sony, and then the rest were sanyo. About a hundred of them were 2000mah sanyo. I averaged 76 cells per 10lbs.
You are lucky! Nice spreadsheet. I got a medical pack too, total 61 cells, lots of low 1000 mAh 18650 cells. Some nice cells of 2300 to 2400mah. 11 A123 cells- they are not holding charges. I ended up $63.87 per kWh, including those very low mAh cells. Their Mix tool packs are much worse. Lots of leak and rust cells, lower mAh at around 1300, dead NiCd pack. Also two working tool battery pack. Tool pack is around $78.14 per kWh!
I have all those packs and more come through my supplier. Unfortunately though there wasn’t that many over the 2000 mAh capacity that most people are looking for. When the cells start with a rated capacity around 2000 mAh you are going to need a lot more to get your kWh that you need.
I picked up 10 x EMC 123 lifep04 from battery hookup about a year ago, new batteries.. not sure what to do with it. Nice to see the quality of Canadian workmanship of course $$$$
I bought about 70 lb of this battery from battery hookup and was disappointed to find that most of the battery the internal fuse has blown and a set of Ryobi tools battery which is at 0 volts I am questioning the situation of putting this in use I am charging up the Ryobi battery some of them take charge but some of them is completely dead Short circuit. You have to be careful when buying those scrap cell because not all time it comes out good.
I have had no luck when it comes to panasonic cells from laptop batteries, had 50-60 almost all were shot, or would get warm, or even hot when charging at 500-800mah.
I usually grab with longnose pliers and either yank straight off or carefully role them if I think they're going to tear holes in the cells. I rarely damage one.
@@LithiumSolar Thanks! Some of the deep welds have been monsters. I'll keep practicing. I am sorting through 100lbs of power tool batteries and some medical. The stryker batteries have all been lithium iron phosphate, suspect the same in your stryker medical packs.
Ah, powertool batteries are typically welded much stronger than these types of packs. Some of the drill batteries I took apart, I ended up cutting the nickel strip at the cell, then tapping it down flat. Otherwise, I knew I would end up tearing them unfortunately.
@@LithiumSolar I was wondering if that would be ok, I’d rather spot weld to the existing leftover bits. In quantity it’s too hard to file or dremel. Thanks for making my project easier!
No, I don't use the megacell software. It was very frustrating to use due to being programmed in a way that is like 1990s software. The APIs are all open for use, so I wrote my own script in PHP that runs the capacity testing on the device.
@@djsimplyseth Yup. I have the PHP code posted here secondlifestorage.com/index.php?threads/megacellcharger-php-automation-script.10236/ if you want an example. It's pretty much just GET/POST requests with JSON. I ran wireshark to grab the API calls while using the official application.
Battery Hookup also sells the 10 pound assortment of mixed tool batteries which have a higher discharge rate but I'm not sure if they are rated to be used in vape pens.
@@robertgiresi9515 I got one of the mix tool pack from battery hookup, lots of totally rusted leaking cells. Two working battery packs. One dead NiCd pack. I ended up $78.14 per kWh, higher price than other varieties.
The light green cells are Samsung 22, the pink cells are Samsung 26. They're both in the spreadsheet but I see the 26's are incorrectly labeled as Panasonic when they should be Samsung. I'll fix and upload a new copy of the spreadsheet to the forum post later this morning. Thank you for pointing this out, not sure how I missed that...
I buy from Battery hook up all the time. I have found you can use a 3x5 recipe box to make a nice battery box. I could send you some pictures if you'd like to do a video on making one. I don't have the stuff to do videos.
Kinda hard to find those recipe boxes anymore... I took a cell with me and went to the dollar store, and found some lunch boxes that worked well. Thick plastic. At $1, its a bargain. I found the same boxes elsewhere for a little more.
When you have collected enough cells for yourself. YOu should try and give some to family members or neighbours so the can move away from single use batteries.
@@LithiumSolar would be nice. They will be available very soon I'm sure. Yours will last until you're ready. Just make sure you thermal cam them once a week . Thanks for the video
@@frankz1125 I ordered 32 already, it's just taking a long time for the China slowboat... lol. I like the thermal camera, but it's pretty much impossible to see the battery pack for heated cells while they're shelves. I don't have them wall-mounted like some others do.
Where do you get $37/kWh A123 Lifepo4? Most I see are around $130/kWh range. The bus packs I got were pretty much end of life at 60% and some dead rows. Even if they weren't end of life, the price I paid was still over $110/kWh.
9.1 lbs does not equal 10 lbs. Have you sold out to businesses? This looks bad for you. I like what I get from Battery Hookup. But this is not a minor mistake.
at 5 minute 42 seconds. you got metal tools next to exposed batteries. bad idea!!! you are just begging for a short to happen. please keep metal objects away from batteries if there is no reason for the metal objects to be there.
I love the spreadsheet breaking it down. Thanks for sharing.
I Agree thanks for all you (both)do educating those who are willing to listen you got to love excel a big fan for catching data
Open Office speeadsheets... free...😎
Seems like you got a significantly better lot than I did... Nearly everything I got is a decade old, with quite a few damaged packs and with only one soft pack
I think the 18650 era is closing for large power supplies with these great 280Ah cells really looking so good.
I have processed about a box and a half of these and have gotten almost all sanyo, samsung, lg or sony cells. The small panisonic batteries have vtc4s with low usage, one of the boxes had a brand new unboxed module with 3 vtc4s in it. I think this is a great deal for cells and I bought 4 more
I just finished my 30lbs and it came with 2 of those large packs with moli cells and all 48 of the cells tested between 2330 and 2492. 24 of the cells were dated December 2015 and the other 24 were October 2016. No Samsung, 9 lg 2200 cells that also tested above capacity, 12 sony, and then the rest were sanyo. About a hundred of them were 2000mah sanyo. I averaged 76 cells per 10lbs.
You are lucky! Nice spreadsheet. I got a medical pack too, total 61 cells, lots of low 1000 mAh 18650 cells. Some nice cells of 2300 to 2400mah. 11 A123 cells- they are not holding charges. I ended up $63.87 per kWh, including those very low mAh cells. Their Mix tool packs are much worse. Lots of leak and rust cells, lower mAh at around 1300, dead NiCd pack. Also two working tool battery pack. Tool pack is around $78.14 per kWh!
I have all those packs and more come through my supplier. Unfortunately though there wasn’t that many over the 2000 mAh capacity that most people are looking for. When the cells start with a rated capacity around 2000 mAh you are going to need a lot more to get your kWh that you need.
who is your supplier? someone that sells packs?
@@Karlredance I have a medical contact.
As much as those packs suck to recover cells from and only 2000 mah cells, are you selling any?
@@Karlredance I have packs for sale in Brisbane Aus.
@@rohanwilschefski2549 ok lol thank you anyways
I picked up 10 x EMC 123 lifep04 from battery hookup about a year ago, new batteries.. not sure what to do with it. Nice to see the quality of Canadian workmanship of course $$$$
Are those the ones that had 8 cells in? If they're the ones I'm thinking of, those were a bear to get cells out of without shorting!
@@LithiumSolar yes 8 cells, very well made 078-000-092-07 EMC selling for 400 each on ebay. it was a flash deal on BHup a WTF moment.
Interesting numbers in your excel sheet, i think i'll follow your steps in calculating
I bought about 70 lb of this battery from battery hookup and was disappointed to find that most of the battery the internal fuse has blown and a set of Ryobi tools battery which is at 0 volts I am questioning the situation of putting this in use I am charging up the Ryobi battery some of them take charge but some of them is completely dead Short circuit. You have to be careful when buying those scrap cell because not all time it comes out good.
The large battery pack with the funny connectors is from a Maquet Cardiosave Intra-aortic balloon pump.
The large one looks like a battery used in lifts to transfer patients in bed in/out of bed.
I wish i knew a place in Australia to buy these cells .
Yes. Canada sucks too.
I have had no luck when it comes to panasonic cells from laptop batteries, had 50-60 almost all were shot, or would get warm, or even hot when charging at 500-800mah.
You put in the work! Great job
Hello!
Can you please suggest a good place to get cells in Europe?
What specific types of equipment can we expect to find the bigger battery packs ?
Its all medical equipment like battery backup for ventilators
Hmmm I wouldn't waste my money. I work as a biomed tech and they are pretty well shot when we dispose of them
Seems from his results, that's not the case.
Hmmm kinda interesting stuff you've got Sir. 😋👍
Ok Marcie
The Maquet pack seems to be made in Germany, which would explain the craftsmanship.
I got 2 x 10 lbs mixed mostly medical packs. Some were impossible to open. At least half of the cells were trash. A waste of money.
What is your technique for removing the bus strips? I always seem to ruin a few.
I usually grab with longnose pliers and either yank straight off or carefully role them if I think they're going to tear holes in the cells. I rarely damage one.
@@LithiumSolar Thanks! Some of the deep welds have been monsters. I'll keep practicing. I am sorting through 100lbs of power tool batteries and some medical. The stryker batteries have all been lithium iron phosphate, suspect the same in your stryker medical packs.
Ah, powertool batteries are typically welded much stronger than these types of packs. Some of the drill batteries I took apart, I ended up cutting the nickel strip at the cell, then tapping it down flat. Otherwise, I knew I would end up tearing them unfortunately.
@@LithiumSolar I was wondering if that would be ok, I’d rather spot weld to the existing leftover bits. In quantity it’s too hard to file or dremel. Thanks for making my project easier!
Can that large battery be charged and used as is?
good video. nice review. thanks for sharing.
Can that large battery be charged and used as is?
Technically yes, but I wouldn't recommend it due to not knowing the condition of the cells. One grouping on mine was testing lower than the rest.
@@LithiumSolar It would make a great battery for a portable sonar for ice fishing. I ordered some and they will be here tomorrow.
@@stanleyrank808 you should let us know how they turn out after processing them.
Are those bigger than AA batteries?
Yes. These are 18650 cells. That means 18mm wide by 65mm high.
Thank you, sir.
Do you use mega cell software, if so, what OS?
No, I don't use the megacell software. It was very frustrating to use due to being programmed in a way that is like 1990s software. The APIs are all open for use, so I wrote my own script in PHP that runs the capacity testing on the device.
@@LithiumSolar sweet, so I can code something for it in Python or Go. Thanks
@@djsimplyseth Yup. I have the PHP code posted here secondlifestorage.com/index.php?threads/megacellcharger-php-automation-script.10236/ if you want an example. It's pretty much just GET/POST requests with JSON. I ran wireshark to grab the API calls while using the official application.
Can these batteries be used for a Tobacco Vape Pen? I've seen similar batteries used for them.
No. Vaping requires batteries capable of high discharge rates. These can only handle a few amps before they start heating up.
Battery Hookup also sells the 10 pound assortment of mixed tool batteries which have a higher discharge rate but I'm not sure if they are rated to be used in vape pens.
@@robertgiresi9515 I got one of the mix tool pack from battery hookup, lots of totally rusted leaking cells. Two working battery packs. One dead NiCd pack. I ended up $78.14 per kWh, higher price than other varieties.
Wait weren't those samsung 26Fs? Spreadsheet shows 22F
The light green cells are Samsung 22, the pink cells are Samsung 26. They're both in the spreadsheet but I see the 26's are incorrectly labeled as Panasonic when they should be Samsung. I'll fix and upload a new copy of the spreadsheet to the forum post later this morning. Thank you for pointing this out, not sure how I missed that...
I buy from Battery hook up all the time. I have found you can use a 3x5 recipe box to make a nice battery box. I could send you some pictures if you'd like to do a video on making one. I don't have the stuff to do videos.
Kinda hard to find those recipe boxes anymore... I took a cell with me and went to the dollar store, and found some lunch boxes that worked well. Thick plastic. At $1, its a bargain. I found the same boxes elsewhere for a little more.
Interesting indeed
weighing the batteries like weighing something else after you get it home. I don't want shorted fam lmaoooo
Nearly 1lbs shorted plus all the casings and junk boards that get removed.. Still not a bad deal though.
It was not 1lb short? It was 1.25% of a pound short. Lol
@@nadieselgirl 9lb 15.6oz and there’s 16oz in a lb
@@peterg.8245 Opps, I head 9.06 oz.
@@peterg.8245 Oh, now it makes sense, I was sure it was 9,16oz.
American numbers are hard, I prefer kg, easier to work with.
How much did u spend $ to buy them?
Did you watch the video? $20.
Only in America when 9.1 is rounded up to 10.0
:D
What? Where do you see 9.1 anything? There is 9lbs 15.8oz of batteries here. There are 16oz in one pound. That's like 4.51kg vs 4.53kg. LOL.
@@LithiumSolar
Yeah, I have seen the same.
9,156 is close to 10 if you know that in imperials 0.16 = 1
Just learned it myself from other comment.
I have boxes of those “Physio” batteries!
Can I have some?
looking to sell any?
Thank-you !!!! 😁✌🖖👌👍 😎
Awww you didnt get the square panasonics... lol
What square Panasonics are you referring to? I am curious now!
@@LithiumSolar NCA10s
The odd little cell that has a positive case and negative top tab.
They fit in a space of 3 aaa batteries
Too bad the packages sent to non-reviewers are nothing like that.
When you have collected enough cells for yourself. YOu should try and give some to family members or neighbours so the can move away from single use batteries.
These cells are not replacements for common household batteries such as AA, C, D, etc.
I just got a bunch of laptop packs
Let me know when youre ready for a truck load of a123s :)
I'm moving towards LiFePO4, but will be prismatic not cylindrical cells :)
@@LithiumSolar would be nice. They will be available very soon I'm sure. Yours will last until you're ready. Just make sure you thermal cam them once a week . Thanks for the video
@@frankz1125 I ordered 32 already, it's just taking a long time for the China slowboat... lol. I like the thermal camera, but it's pretty much impossible to see the battery pack for heated cells while they're shelves. I don't have them wall-mounted like some others do.
@@LithiumSolar I'm sure the new bank will be good. Can't wait to see.
@@LithiumSolar are you moving completly to lifepo4?
What's the price for that per kwh?
Those almost as cheap as my A123 Lifepo4.
I'd prefer LiFePO4 these days myself.
Where do you get $37/kWh A123 Lifepo4? Most I see are around $130/kWh range. The bus packs I got were pretty much end of life at 60% and some dead rows. Even if they weren't end of life, the price I paid was still over $110/kWh.
@@LithiumSolar For me it is safety, seeing lithium lighting up like fireworks , no thank you. When it is a DIY project LifeP04 seems the safer choice.
...did he just say sonie? Oh hell nah
I got a 600 watt power supply
A 600W power supply for the Megacell Charger?
Batteries don't like to be in parallel...ijs
Mine do ;)
O view 👍
Battey
9.1 lbs does not equal 10 lbs. Have you sold out to businesses? This looks bad for you.
I like what I get from Battery Hookup. But this is not a minor mistake.
I think you've made a mistake. That's 9lbs 15.8oz, NOT 9.1lbs. There are 16oz in one pound so it's short by 0.1%.
@@LithiumSolar My mistake.
at 5 minute 42 seconds. you got metal tools next to exposed batteries. bad idea!!! you are just begging for a short to happen.
please keep metal objects away from batteries if there is no reason for the metal objects to be there.
Ooops
LOL. Everybody scared...