The End of Yu-Gi-Oh Speed Duel (for now)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ต.ค. 2024
- Unfortunately, Konami just announced the end of Yu-Gi-Oh Speed Duel. But where one door closes...
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_Is it finally time to RUSH to the next big Yu-Gi-Oh thing? Or should we perhaps DRAFT a different path forward?_ 🤔
I think they aimed for these formats to have been the solution for recapturing casual interest, which has evidently failed, so rather it is now back to the drawing board, in terms of figuring out what new "format" will actually bring people back to the game.
Rush is unappealing
I really want a draft format
Draft I can see. Rush would be Speed Duels 2.0 in paper.
Draft is the most fun format but the new sets are just undraftable. Oh so I get a random support card for an archetype thats not present at all?
It's the only type Yu-Gi-Oh! that I can convince people who dont play Yu-Gi-Oh! to play Yu-Gi-Oh!
@@Thee9thAaroniero I’m saying !!!
Same, but we got zero support in Europe. No places were playing it
Yeah I had playing speed on duel links I was really looking, thinking about playing again. RIP guess not
Rush duels? I found them to eb the easiest way to get someone who's not really a YGO person to have fun. I've been playing my Monarchs against friends over sims.
In terms of paper, though? Unless Konami brings Rush to the west already, it's bleak lmao
Exactly
Its really sad, in Croatia Speed duel is the most popular format due to the low cost and many vintage cards being playable
I pray rush is cheap for y'all
as a Croatian, I never heard of this wtf, is this actually true??
@@DracoSenpai420 every Tuesday evening at cartamagica in Zagreb
@@LittleMushroomGuy sadly I'm in split
@@DracoSenpai420 RIP one2play i Land of Magic. Je li ima jos uopce mjesto za kartanje u Splitu?
I feel like Konami mishandled speed duel, it feels like they treated it like 2nd grade yugioh and the playerbase caught on quickly to that. Sad that they never turned things around
That's what it was supposed to be.
This is why Speed Duel cards are TCG legal, but not vice versa.
Having to buy new cards to play was meant to gatekeep people who weren't new players from Speed Duel while allowing those new players who bought them to learn a simplified version of the game and then take those cards into the main game.
Objectively, it wasn't generating revenue. You can't prop up a product that makes you lose money.
@@RunicSigilsI don't think that really works as a good strategy for Konami because the type of YuGiOh Speed Duel has you playing isn't the same YuGiOh that players would be entering.
Life points, zones, deck size and skills aside. The kind of gameplay and speed that Speed Duel was designed for is simply not the same gameplay that Advanced format YuGiOh offers so players are going to get whiplash and get lost as the complexity curve goes up at a 90° angle from what they were playing before. Not to mention the fact that their Speed Duel cards will be effectively useless in today's game as well.
@@RunicSigils the issue: Jumping from Speed Duel as a newbie to regular YGO is like.... getting your drivers license and then "hey now i can drive Formula 1"
@@Zanji1234
Or like riding a bike to piloting an airplane.
4:45
Rex's American voice actor just beat mouth cancer
Wishing Sam Reigel a speedy recovery!
@@Stormhawk777 I'm gonna play Dinos now. Thanks 😊
That was Sam Riegel? I never knew, I wish I could leave two likes
Didn't Sam Reigel orginally voiced Tristan?
According to Google he voiced Tristan for the first 11 episodes but did Rex up until ep145
I liked the idea of Speed Duels. A low barrier to entry, easy to pick up and play version of Yu-Gi-Oh. Nostalgia for anime fans, and old school gameplay for yugiboomers. Great for board game nights even among the most casual Yu-Gi-Oh fans.
Yeah, it seems like there wasn't much more room for the card pool to expand without either introducing cards with a much higher power level or bringing in synchro era stuff, both of which would run counter to the general appeal/identity of Speed Duels. It's still sad that we never got the Air Neos, though.
@@GreyscaleGod there's so many synchros that are pretty low power that could be introduced and actually not retread battle city 4
@@GreyscaleGodThat was literally what they did with Duel Links though, and even beyond Synchro Era.
@@GreyscaleGod Honestly I think they could’ve easily done more with Rituals in speed duels as they left very underwhelming.
I think Yugioh could use that "board game" style sub variant, where it's simpler/no insane power creep
I see the pretty kitty again!
gotta love Mr. Bigglesworth
Purrely kitty ☝️🤓
Speed Duel will never die, and it holds a special place in my heart! My nephew is the sole reason I continue playing Yu-Gi-Oh in general. This kid would literally beg me for a speed duel every morning before going to school. I love that boy!
That is one beautiful little white lion you have there.
Speed duel was the only yugioh I was interested in playing
As for physical cards same
But did you actually play it
@@nmr7203 I didn't have anywhere to play it. I'm not going to a ycs.
Speed Dueling got me back into Yu-Gi-Oh after a 6 year hiatus. I'm glad I was around during its rise and fall.
It got me back into it after like 17 years.
It was the main catalyst for getting me back into physical cards again
This makes me really sad. I love Speed Duels. They were the only modern cards I purchase.
The Weevil and Rex speed duel decks, those two were my gateway into speed duels and I honestly enjoyed it. The cards definitely had amazing prints and the multitude of skills within the game made it very enjoyable.
@@robertdaniels-lane7321 wish it came with sword armed of dragon and megazowler though 😔
@@davnez05I thought the same thing! 🤯 I was overly sure they would give them to us but we never got them 😭
I still have my box of that.
@@Cr4z3d what you mean?
@@davnez05 Oh, the Weevil and Rex Speed Duel decks.
Speed duels is the only reason I got back into Yugioh gave me Duel Monsters feel all over again it was the scaling down I felt Yugioh needed sad to see it go hopefully it comes back
I think a global release of rush duel is coming
@@kevinakeemdevilleres5786 maybe I'm just being nostalgic but I don't really care for the Rush Duel format and the look of the cards w/o rush duel speed has a bigger audience
Yeah, that was a big reason for what attracted me too. It took you back to the "Yugi Boomer" days before there were 20x combos with deck milling. I still feel Yugioh could use that simpler format/no power creep
@@BaronStVon absolutely!! I miss the battle city DM era of different combinations of deck building unique cards for your own strategy instead of 20min turns just to floodgate the opponent from playing
bro, your cat is GORGEOUS
Dang no 5Ds :(
They fumbled Speed duel massively. It was kinda the only thing I bought in YGU. They were cheap and they had cars I’ve been unable to attain.
I don't like how every alt format Konami has always has to be in service of driving people to modern. Like they can't support these as their own thing. It has to be just a marketing tool for the regular mainline TCG.
Yugioh players are not into causual play
That's why it didt suceed.
@@DragonBallsolosyourversenot true at all. Tons and tons of yugioh players are very into casual play, but it’s Konami’s fault for not making a model and format where they could flourish in that sub-market. It’s their fault, and no one else’s.
Causual play was made as a mode in master duel
Its not for lack of komani trying, the players who go on causual play normally use meta decks
The players simply prefer the fast pace game
@@DragonBallsolosyourverse you do realize that “casual play” is leagues older than master duel, right? That’s not a new thing with master duel. And again, it’s still Konami’s fault for not implementing casual formats in master duel too, with its own ranked ladder, which could have been made with other incentives, like their own retro packs or whatever.
Ever heard of battle packs? Ever heard of yugioh content creators that specifically make content with older yugioh formats??? Literally tons of people are into “casual play” of all kinds. It’s not a matter of a lack of fanbase, it’s really only a lack of investment on Konami’s part to capitalize on that submarket - literally nothing else. Sorry dude, but your logic is not logic-ing.
Basically Konami reprinted their own product into the shadowrealm
Actually a reason more for me to play Speed Duel, this is exactly a state of the game that is super enjoyable for me
This is how I feel about it, I'm okay with speed duel not resembling the modern game.
I honestly just loved the speed duel boxes for deck building. At this point I have made every single (possible) deck from the DM era.
I think yugioh speed duels will continue. It says initial speed duel saga not format so maybe DM era and/or GX is over and 5ds is around the corner but that is my opinion. Keep up the good work.
Hope so, if they ever reach zexal I would finally play it because I use galaxy eyes in duel links
5ds is what Speed Duels should have been from day one.
Maybe They could still give us speed duel cards by just printing it in regular yugioh products, like just stamping "speed duel" text next to the set number in the card, but without the big watermark to not set off regular yugioh players.
That's genuinely a great idea. No one cares about the common slot in mainline sets already, so you could easily replace those cards with speed duel cards, or expand the list of common cards to include speed duel cards. As long as no speed duel card was ultra or secret, and there were only a few supers, that would work well.
gosh you know wits gonna be bad news when they bring in a cat to help deliver the news~
i love speed duel. one of my favorite ways to play card games at all. its sad to see it go.
I now gather my cats to watch these videos. Commander-Meiloorun and Bibby-Wott were sad to hear about speed duels but hyped to see fellow cats
Speed duel is the perfect entry point for new players to get into the game. It deserves more respect from konami
I loved speed duel, I could just never find anybody to play with. I actually collected all the sets, not only for the speed duel cards but also because they had some really cool old school reprints or those ocg vanilla imports that never got a tcg printing. I am sad to see it go, and i hope it brings enough attention to it so that maybe it does get revived in the future one day. Having an alternative way to play the game is so important, and the speed duel boxes are a poster boy for what good, accessible product should look like
They didnt even released midterm in europe, let be real, they wont restart it
Speed Duels card stock is superior to the TCGs so anytime I could access a higher rarity through speed duels, I generally try going for that instead. I was also hoping to see the day Aliens were able to be played in speed duels. 😢
It's not the first time Speed Duel went on an hiatus. Last time it happened was back in 2020 and it lasted 1 and 1/2 years.
I'm too distracted by that cat to think about a card game.
Speed Duels had a lot of problems that ended up being solved as the products evolved.
However the problem they never solved was the restriction to only use watermarked cards.
I understand the restriction is there to separate the SD card pool from the TCG. But since the product was strongly sustained by nostalgia, a large part of the playerbase was old school players... whom probably already owned most/some of the cards.
Saying no, to players to use their own collection was a mistake. Not letting them foil their favorite deck was bad. Making the chase for a card they already own, in an inferior rarity, for a much more expensive price was the too much to ask...
Look at Edison format players:
People who kept their decks from back in the days were happy to dust off their decks and take them back for a ride. "Wow! Higher rarity reprints than their original printings that I can use for cheap?! Yes please! Now I am able to play Fully foiled blackwings for cheap!!"
... which was a sentiment that was never felt like in the same way in SDs...
Products like Rarity Collection/ Battle of Legends are proof that a fully foil set can be succesful because players want to use their best looking version of their cards... but Speed Duels never gave back something to their players.
For example:
GX Speed Duels gave us 3 diferent versions of the Elemental Hero Deck. Not once they gave a foil treatment to the OG vanilla heroes... why?! Your players bought it to play with heroes! Give them foil heroes to chase!
So yeah... in the end players like me ended up buying a single box of the product for the skills, and chase after the foil Crystal Beasts / (insert your fav SD deck) foil reprints to have a nice looking playable collection.
Rush Duels on the other hand also appeals to the nostalgia. But the key factor is that every new card you end up buying is new and plays diferent.
i would love to play speed duel. my problem has always been that there is honest to god no way to play it. my locals don't do speed duel and i don't think there is any online simulator to play it either.
Same situation for me. I'm trying to get back into Yu-Gi-Oh. Can't find speed duel locals and I'd have to go an hour or two out of town for Goat or Edison. I have a box and I'll probably pick out this last one and I'll try to bring those for game nights or something.
@@tubaman6226 yeah like witf? how did they expect it to do well if even the people who want to play cant.
Duel links
Speed Duel: Duelist Kingdom decks would be gg af. Bandit Keith, Panik, Mai, etc.
Konami: Hey, we're going to shelve speed duel for awhile.
Paul: it's over it's dead it's done they killed it and it's gone.
I got into speed duel as a yugi-boomer and my friends refuse to play modern yugioh, so I bought these as a way for them to play casually with me
duel links got me and a group of my teammates into yugioh in college and we saw the first speed starter decks at target and we thought it was duel links irl
Basically is
Konami Booth at Comic Con this year kinda hinted at Rush Duels releasing soon🎉
Oh did it?
how am i supposed to focus when there is a cute kitty all through the video
Konami should make something like Magic's Jumpstart. 12 card packs: 10 synergistic main deck cards + 2 playable extra deck cards. Packs are randomized by theme, with very little variation between two different packs of one theme. Each player opens 6 packs and chooses three to be their deck. Duel!
Speed Duels literally brought me back to Yu-Gi-oh. I've been away since 2011-12, occasionally dabbing online but never physically again and then I realized Speed Duel boxes are a thing and this spoke exactly to me and my childhood. Get Toons, Amazoness, Joker Knight decks viable and ina box. Get a box and have a tournament with friends. That was my jam! Both nostalgia, new way to play what I used to love and something to get me wanting more. Incredible!
Eventually I wanted to check out how the game has progressed. Althouhg it wa snot to my taste I still have 2-3 decks for modern format (although 2 of those are not viable at all now, but were Master Duel inspired I guess) so yeah thanks to it I've spend hundreds of more dollars into TCG.
It sucks to see it go and it sucks BIG TIME I won't get the last item in the line here in Europe... I guess I'll figure out a way to buy it (certainly at higher price thanks to shipping...thanks Konami) but it's just another way Konami ar emaking me feel like they don't want me as a consumer. The last 2 years have made me feel like they are trying everything in their power to have me give up on Yu-Gi-Oh again... I think with no Speed Duel they will soon succeed.
sounds like they're literally just pausing, not a full-on product cancellation
Speed duel is the best alternative format for me and my community in Montana. Love this format I'll always support and play it 😁😁😁
Hey Konami maybe… oh, idk… bring over rush duels
With the last Box Product not releasing here in Germany/EU I thought as much...
It's a real shame, because my Friends and me just recently discovered how fun it is and hoped for all the other Decks to be released one day...
The Signs of Speed Duel dying were already there.
Not releasing Midterm Destruction and now Battle City Finals in the EU is a shame.
Such a shame. Speed Duel had so much potential. I love it and play it often with my friends. It was a great casual place to play Yugioh. It could've been big, but the awful support and slow releases killed any momentum it could've built.
I bought basically all the speed duel box sets for the past 2 years as they were absolutely great ways to play the game with friends who know yugioh or can quickly pick it up. I loved the character theming for the decks and being able to play a bunch of functional 20 card structure decks. The fact they would include some more modern support cards for the mostly 2003-2007 era decks made it more interesting than GOAT to me. Still easy enough card effects to explain to a newer player, but with some cool flashy anime style combos.
I really wish they had moved into 5Ds era early synchros though. It’s not that complicated of cards to explain to players, no more complicated than a fusion summon in terms of mechanics, and would have breathed new life into the game imo instead of retreading battle city again and again. I would have loved a junk deck, or a morphtronic deck, etc.
If they aren’t going to make speed duels 2 synchro summon I want them to bring Rush Duels so badly, and easier card game design made to bring in younger players into an ageing game.
Honestly i just love the secret rares and the card quality 😅, never played it, but the fact that alot of the cards they reprinted are also retro format cards and rarity bumps in some cases also was helpful. Overall a shame cause it gave players who want to play anime yugioh a chance to do that in a official setting.
Speed duel might be ending but my delusion of this set coming to europe is never ending
Speed Duel is basically the only Yugioh I play. Just a couple days ago I ordered cards for a Blue Eyes deck I want to play.
RIP Speed Duels but let's just jump straight into RUSH. 👀
I love speed duels. It brought that nostalgia back for me. The speed duel discord is very popular! Everyone should check it out for sure.
I loved how Speed Duel made archtypes and cards that weren't very good and make it better. Looking at stuff like Spirit of Pharoah and Vampire Genesis etc.
I'm planning to import the next set in November hopefully.
I would also loved to see a duelist box of Signers vs Dark Signers for 5Ds that would have been epic!
I loved Speed Duel products, especially the Secret Rares. It's too bad they're going away.
0:30 Since when you owned a cat? I didn't know about that!
Watching my sister's house and cats for the week!
@@apsamplifier Ah, I see. Well, don't let the felines drive you nuts!
These are the decks i play with friends. What a shame
I appreciate how you broke down what it was, parts of its history, and your feelings on it. Admittedly I'm a lurker who appreciates and fears YGO from a safe distance.
Also god if there were a new draftable format I'd be so into that
Big shame! I haven't played the real Yugioh since the Anaconda ban deleted my deck, but I have been gathering with a group of friends to play all the Speed Duel sets.
Great analysis of the format, I will keep myself positive. This new box full of classics has the potential to capture new players, banlist make possible to play recipes from different boxes and combinations to have fun until a new era comes. If you like speed duel, play, show Konami by participating that speed duel players are there and care. Regards from Colombia :)
I think they shot themselves in the foot by making TCG cards non-compatible with “speed duel.” It should have always been that TCG cards were legal in rhetoric format but sets filled with the skill cards, reprints of all the cards in the format, etc should have been the purchase model in the first place. That way, people who already have the cards could have just dug them out of their closet and played the format.
They 100% thought about that and decided against it. The problem is that with Speed Duel being an extremely casual-oriented format, you need a way for people to know which cards are legal in Speed Duel, and the best way of doing that was always going to be "if it says speed duel on it, it's legal, otherwise it's not". The alternative would have been having to google every card your opponent plays to make sure it exists in speed duel.
@@yurisei6732 sure, I agree, but I think in this day and age they could have gotten a little more creative, they could’ve made an app or something entirely for just speed duel format (or maybe just implement it in neuron or something) and print the latest Forbidden and limited list with each set they released. Idk. With a company as big as Konami, I’d figure they would have figured out how to market it better and make a lasting business model on the product rather than just pumping out more (mostly) worthless product (but then again, they pretty much always just pump out sets endlessly for no reason, so maybe that’s just what they’re used to).
I hope konami gives us Rush Duel I'm looking forward to that
As a collector and a retro yugioh player, I absolutely LOVE the speed duel sets. I love the printing of the cards and how they look. The secret rares really pop. Some people hate the watermark but I love the cards. Its a shame this is the last one (for a while anyways). Lets hope for Rush Duel!
The problem why it didnt take off was because people kept comparing it with standard yugioh. So the standard for speed duel was way to high. Its still a great game for people who want to start the game on a fast and easy mode. But for the basic yugiph consumer its never going to be the same as basic yugioh.
Hopefully this means Rush Duels. I never invested in Speed Duels because the whole time I wanted Rush Duels because I was watching the new anime
I love speed duels. I have 3 copies of every SD card and play it like a board game. I made decks as canonical as possible for each character, some more than one (2 skills per deck), and play with friends. After the end I'll definitely make more decks with regular cards just for fun and maybe borrow some skills from duel links or something.
It cost Konami so little to actually maintain speed duel that it's absurd to me they would discontinue it. Sure they didn't make as much as the average core set but if it still turned a profit then who cares if it didn't make as much? It still made money.
Speed duel was such a fun simple way to play paper yugioh, it will be missed.
Speed Duel is more effective than Duel Links in getting non serious player to play.
It’s a shame I liked speed duel, but we never got midterm destruction in Europe and I doubt they’ll give us this new one 😢 I liked it for a simplified format, a least you had a back and forth game, and it was great for reprints
Even the cat is sad that speed duel is coming to an end. Can't wait to see what the future of Yu-Gi-Oh will look like!
To be fair, the good thing about Speed Duel is that the decks can be played as they are, as a board game of sorts. You don't really need it to continue to have fun with the existing cards. Sucks but it really wasn't popular I guess.
We need more videos with the kitty cat in the background. I have only ever played speed duels online. But even so, I think it’s important to have these alternative formats of Yu-Gi-Oh at main line events. Hopefully we will see it brought back eventually.
Konami needs to start promoting Time Wizard formats such as Goat and Edison
I'm quite sad to see Speed Duel go, especially since i'm in France. It's a great tool to teach kids how to play Yu-Gi-Oh.
I think the biggest problem is the majority of consistent yugioh players that go to stores are that because they are at least semi-competative and want to play with the newest and strongest cards.
Edison (even goat has only had modest in person success) is really the only format thats properly bucked that trend and I think even that is because a lot of players have fond memories of the competative scene from that era.
Could never play here in France because no shop promote it and players didnt cared, couldnt even buy the last one since they didnt print it in french
You have a very lovely kitty!
Speed Duel is awesome format because it is slower than TCG! :P
The best thing Speed Duels did was provide people a format other than Advanced. But ALSO I liked their products the most because you didn't have to open packs and boosters. It was just the cards.
This announcement has also done something interesting for one of the locals.....They've dropped Speed Duels and picked up Edison
Konami couldn't justify spending money on good-quality cards anymore.🙄
Purrely chilling on the bottom left for the whole video☺
It’s really funny to me how in the LAST possible chance, they drop Maxx C onto speed duel
I love the dog in the background 😸
Are you blind? That's not a dog, it's clearly a lizard.
@@yurisei6732 I'm an idiot...😰
I’m really sad they never made it to 5Ds era. I think Synchro “Speed Duels” would’ve been fun and would feel like a Turbo duel.
The future of Yu-Gi-Oh is digital
A real shame Speed Duel has finally ended, or "taken a pause" as they said. If they ever pick it back up, I hope they have the courage to go with 5Ds.
I still collect Speed Duel cards, along with sometimes playing the format every now and then. The peak was definitely the Weevil Insect days when that Parasite Paranoid came out.
I just hope they use this released attention to fix the main set stuff before investing into alternate formats. To be honest, after playing Duel Links' Rush Format, it felt more sacky than fun and I just didn't enjoy it all that much than regular Speed Duel.
I’m kind of excited for the future formats that speed dual might bring upon us kind of like how goat format comes from old Yu-Gi-Oh. I’m excited to see where Yu-Gi-Oh in the future reflects on speed duel.
I found Speed Duels was them trying to eat their cake and have it too. The simplified format and card pool, in a similar manner to Rush Duels, was ideal for newer, younger people who want to play the game. But the way they did market it by having it put such a strong emphasis on the original anime, meant that it was really targeting older fans, who would likely find it too dumb downed to enjoy (at least when it was first released).
So really...my opinion here, but I don't know who the target audience for Speed Duels were.
Boomers mostly. It only went as far as DM and GX. They didn't even want to attempt synchro which is sad.
@@spicymemes7458Konami said they're ending the SAGA not the format, so more than likely they will make more Speed Duel products, but they're pretty much done with DM and/or GX era nostalgia sets.
I always felt that it was specifically for Yugiboomers like myself (and my friend who I play it with) because it was so anime (especially DM) focused.
It could also get new players into the game, so I don’t think the DM anime stuff would necessarily be like a turn off.
@@LCDigital92I mean advertising for yugi boomers does work for the general public, most people only know about DM and GX.
I never really liked speed duel products because its much better to just by singles but I did like that they offered reprints of cards to keep them affordable, below a dollar for the most part. I am a firm believer that reprint products are essential but most of the reprints in these products weren't warranted as most of these cards had already been reprint to heck and back. That's the only thing I think they could have improved upon, was that needed to include more relevant, modern reprints of cards, in a deck product or draft product that was playable out of the box, so that you might even be able to collect them to build a Yu-Gi-Oh cube, like in MTG. That way you and your friends could get some cubamajig products and have a draft night.
Serpent night dragon is my favorite card. Having his skill and it be great was a blast for me. I’ll miss this format
The final set is a must for me at least.
I don't know if it's just the perspective, but that cat looks HUGE.
And to think I once considered selling off my entire Yu-Gi-Oh! collection and start over with Speed Duel. 😕 I was one of the formats' biggest supporters back in the day, and I was so excited when Konami did what players had told me they'd never do. I wish I could've invested more in the format, and I hope we can see it revisited someday.
Rush needs to happen
Speed duel is such a weird format because everytime it went to DM the format got worse but when it was GX sets it was fun.
Absolutely stupid they're admitting "we retread old ground too much" as if instead of the 3rd battle city box make the rest of GX or flesh out the others in GX.
speed duels is a really fun format to play, too bad that almost no one plays it in tcg format. I actually prefer it over competitive yugioh. I find it easier to relax and have fun while playing. Whereas in competitive im always on edge.
is that Korin the Martial Arts master in the background
speed duel was actually a great format. they didnt promote that part of the game in pushing tournament formats. one misconception is that you cant use anything but speed duel cards when it actually was if it doesnt exist in speed duel you cant use that card. you could actually play cards that you already own as long as they existed as a speed duel version of that card. def dropped the ball on how to bridge the game to the fanbase 😔
I understand wanting to give this its own video. Worth talking about in the podcast as well.
It's not dead. The current saga is over
Rush Duel phasing out Speed honestly just feels like a natural evolution.
My cousin said that they reprinted Maxx "C" in this set and that since speed duel cards are legal that Maxx "C" would get unbanned. Now we see which of the two of us end up in the mental asylum