As a coloured person from Winnipeg who abuses stimulants and has dormant schizophrenia (drug induced psychoses multiple occasions), I’m taking this as a wake up call.
Thank you so much for fixing this. I listen to these podcasts on my tractor and it makes it hard to focus on the field while I am listening if the audio is bad. You’ve made this much more accessible for me and I appreciate that.
Exactly, they act like people with mental illness are perfect victims of their disease but in reality, it's not binary as they think it is, work for an NGO, you will see, these people will steal your stuff with no second thoughts and run away, that's why I believe, people who can tolerate these people, be it therapists, social workers or clinical psychologists probably have the patience of a saint, they deserve a higher pay imo, chief justice Thomas Clarence is delusional if he thinks he deserves a pay raise
Exactly, they act like people with mental problems are perfect victims of their disease but in reality, it's not binary as they think it is, work for an NGO, you will see, these people will steal your stuff with no second thoughts and run away, that's why I believe, people who can tolerate these people, be it therapists, social workers or clinical psychologists probably have the patience of a saint, they deserve a higher pay imo, chief justice Thomas Clarence is delusional if he thinks he deserves a pay raise
Seeing Greg genuinely tear up was very helpful in mourning. To see the internet funnyman who actually talked to him actually express the pain of a life lost is really moving and i think helpful in uncovering the genuine human connection and ultimate humanist direction "Jreg" as a project points to. great words on here. havent finished but felt i wanted to bookmark this
@@Nagasakevideo Ironically that is exactly how I make friends, just talking about things in common and proposing things. Like just making small talk in class or at work, then after gaining confidence you can invite him for a beer, or a small meal or sumn. I have gone on accidental road trips with my best friends and became better friends through shared hardship.
I totally agree on the mental health vs agency bit and I have one thing to add which is: accepting help is a huge factor there. Like sometimes you really can't take care of yourself, like you need someone to get you started on recovery, especially if you're really physically weak. But if you can't set aside your pride to take someone's support, its like what you were saying, that part is on you
I don't believe he has sincere beliefs. Entire persona for years and years was based off of not knowing what he believes. I think he's a good enough actor to fake sincerity. Don't trust this man, he doesn't have any true beliefs he just says whatever he needs to to get rewarded and get attention!
@@Nagasakevideo Interesting. Jreg's whole appeal has always been deconstruction anyway, so I never need to trust his beliefs, only that he would turn out interesting videos. If you are taking his art coaching courses, you would need to trust him, but I already disagree with his views on what he considers making it as an artist (regardless on if he believes them or not). So I can do that, because trusting him is irrelevant to me.
@@covereye5731 is that really what he considers making it as an artist? Or is that just what he's SAYING? You can't believe a single thing this man says!
I think about the community thing often. I’m a regular church goer, so I have community kinda built in. I would genuinely be incredibly depressed if I didn’t have that in my life
This is genuinely heartbreaking. Just I really like him (Greg), barely parasocial but he’s genuinely helped me through tough times and just for self exploration or not… just seeing him so sad, it’s very heart breaking. Hope you’re well Hun
Greg, thank you for speaking about this objectively. It truly is imperative that we as fellow humans discuss this issue of atomization. The points you've made regarding the inherent issues with societal fame at a young age are spot on. I truly hope you are doing fine after this troubling time in your life as well.
As someone who has dealt with social anxiety, there have been times when I go out with friends, and when I go home I DO regret going out and I end up wishing I had stayed in my room all day. Of course, this was not rational and after more reflection I don't regret going out even though it felt painful. I'm doing better now because I got those uncomfortable "practice interactions" in. Go outside. Please go outside.
as a young person, I never really thought about how important talking to people really is. I guess being at school everyday has made me take it for granted, but all your ramblings about community has really made me realize how important that is to me. Thank you
18:00 counterpoint: got diagnosed with autism after a life of depression, anxiety, and feeling like I was teetering the edge of insanity every three weeks. I was able to help myself only my once I gave up all feelings of responsibility for any one but myself, and then only the things I could actually control. Funnily enough, when you focus on yourself and cultivate intuition, you discover how others are intrinsically a part of you and you of them. Things that put me on the path of betterment (away from a BPD-diagnosis) followed naturally from there. I know they are mostly talking about a specific case, but
twomads saga as I said really reminds me of the book "the Great Gatsby " for some reason, gatsby didn't feel like he was shot, it feels like in the end he was killed by the society of america rather than any individual just like how twomads death seems to be the result of the internet
its back lets goo!! other than that i wanna say my thoughts. I used to be one of those people who straight up celebrating his death but after thinking about it, its really fucking sad rather than funny. He was a horrible person no doubt but he died so young and he could've gotten help and i can't imagine what his family and friends are feeling. the title of the video is truly accurate. Also I can hear the audio.
dude the audio mixing shouldn't be this centrist i hate it. in all seriousness this convinced me to stop wasting calories thinking about some random socialist and his porn folder
1# Short stacked goblin fan is no socialist brother, he likes to think he is a revolutinaire but he is a liberal at best, but you are right, we should not think of Tacoma wept
@@ElJebetequa that's what my psychologist tells me. As cliche as it may sound, jreg has helped me a lot with recognizing it. Love the Louis Wain pfp btw
@@samb._. I'm glad, whatever helps! didn't help me unfortunately lol. but I think he's helped me accept it and not be in denial. and thanks, i find that wain's cat paintings strike the perfect balance between cute and uncanny, they bring me much joy haha. wishing you well on your" journey" or whatever ❤
I see a lot of his haters be like "feel bad for his family though" so I guess that's where you got that inspiration from since people always parrot each other BUT when it comes to having to respect someone because of their family?? That's reta*ded, everyone has a family which means you can say sh*t about any dead person by that logic whatever vague definition of respect you use For the record, I'm NOT one of twomad haters by the way. rip
I get where you're coming from, but I had friends like this and the pushing of boundaries can get uncomfortably physical to the point where it would end up with us throwing hands. The part where you talked about the popcorn on the floor, that's what stuck to me. It's great you thought it was funny and cute but these types of gestures in friendships can escalate into them doing some nasty things if you don't call them out on it. It seemed like Twomad was one of those people that just liked pushing the envelope, and not in a good way. Had a buddy who liked to tickle me, and he ended up doing it while I was WEIGHT-TRAINING. I don't usually get mad, and it's pretty hard for me to get angry, but I was furious when he did that during a deadlift. When I got physical with him, he still thought it was a joke. This is the type of personality I see when I view someone like Twomad. Can't say I feel sorry for him.
I was 20 in 2004. (England pre internet) Nearly all my close friends were total nutjobs in one way or another. Drugs, drinking, partying, vandalism, dropouts, squats etc. On a fairly regular basis one of us would loose our shit and do something off the chain. Mostly with the harm turned inward on themselves, or taken outward and smash up anything breakable objects nearby. We all had an acute sense that we needed each other to hold us down before we exploded, or help pick up the pieces after the fact. No deeper judgement was really necessary as the person more often than not was their own harshest critic, and just needed what they already knew reaffirmed. We had music to help calm the savage beast, the only thing that worked for me incidentally. Since a lot of my friendship group have had kids or atomised for other reasons, things have got worse for them as individuals. We've lost our main source of stability, which was each other. I miss that solidarity immensely, even now. I miss helping my friends, I miss laughing at ourselves and our shortcomings, and I miss the those 3-4 day sessions where we could all transcend our bullshit and have a perfect day together. Love and violence. "Suffering is pain without love." Spot on.
Community is huge, man. Learning about and internalizing anarchism (I had some good mentors that pushed me towards it) has really made me community centered and helped me start helping others. Mutual aid dude, be there for each other.
Muudea died so we had to learn a lesson on how much of an impact internet audience has on a misguided person… rip, watch over us from above so we do better ❤
It’s also the first “celebrity” death that impacted my repeated su1c1d3 thoughts. It fucks with you in another way, it’s not just sad, it’s so much more. I did attach myself to him through his videos and humor and I will miss that, but I will not miss the person he became before passing.
I've had two family members die to schizophrenia related (complications) and one cousin went missing and is still missing who had recently been diagnosed with the disease. It's hard to know there's not much you can do besides offer to help them since most schizophrenia gets diagnosed in the mid to late 20s and at that point they are an adult and treatment depends on self care. It sucks and I'm afraid it might be happening to me
9:24 How could we reward people for expressing themselves better ? I mean, disorganized thought are entertaining and they allow us to project meaning into them, ourselves and see things that may or may not be there. There's value is partial organisation, see Jackson Pollock paintings (presumably) or even pareidolia. With that said, organized thought can be dry, boring, redundant, tedious, obvious, artless. In the case of this person, who is chasing clout, fame and other sustenance. As long as they get brain reward chemicals, the feeling of progress and sustenance, why would they have gone for ordered thought ?
The Vile Offspring The question of how to reward people for expressing themselves more clearly, especially in the context of digital platforms where disorganized thought can be both entertaining and lucrative, is complex. It touches on the broader issue of the incentives created by social media and the kind of content that these platforms promote. Firstly, it's important to recognize the value in all forms of expression, whether organized or disorganized. Artistic expressions like those of Jackson Pollock or instances of pareidolia where we see patterns in randomness, serve important purposes in culture and personal expression. They evoke emotion, provoke thought, and can be deeply meaningful. However, when it comes to personal expression, especially in cases where someone is experiencing mental health issues or is in a vulnerable state, the value of coherent communication cannot be understated. Clarity in thought and expression can lead to better understanding, support, and potentially life-saving interventions. To encourage more organized thought in contexts where disorganized expression is being rewarded due to its entertainment value, several strategies could be considered: Creating Supportive Communities: Platforms can foster environments where clarity and depth are valued. Communities that encourage meaningful discussions and provide constructive feedback can incentivize individuals to express themselves more coherently. Educational Resources: Providing resources and tools that help individuals learn how to organize their thoughts and express themselves more effectively can be beneficial. Workshops, tutorials, and access to mental health resources can empower individuals to improve their communication skills. Highlighting Diverse Content: Platforms can make a concerted effort to showcase a variety of content types, including those that feature well-organized thought and deep insights. By diversifying what is considered valuable content, platforms can broaden the definition of what is rewarding. Incentive Structures: Rethinking how rewards are distributed on social media platforms could also play a role. If algorithms are designed to value not just engagement in the form of likes and shares but also the depth and coherence of content, this could shift the incentives for creators. Mental Health Awareness: Increasing awareness about mental health and its impact on communication can foster a more understanding and supportive environment. Recognizing the signs of someone struggling and providing avenues for help can make a significant difference. In the case of someone chasing clout or fame, the pursuit of brain reward chemicals through social media validation is a powerful motivator. To shift towards more ordered thought, the individual would need to see clear benefits in doing so, not just in terms of social media metrics but in their overall well-being and personal growth. This requires a cultural shift both on and off social media platforms, where the value is placed not just on what is immediately entertaining or engaging but on what is meaningful, supportive, and enriching.
7:15 schizophrenia is NOT *preventable*. It is TREATABLE. It's thought that the earlier you can notice and start dealing with symptoms the better prepared you can be to deal with episodes, but if you're schizophrenic, you are schizophrenic and will be for life (so far in medicine). and as it starts it continue to get worse up until your personal "level" of it. Ofc people have episodes of it, kt's not at 100% always, some are more severe or aggressive they can go from connected to reality to a paranoid mess, but I just really wanted to clarify to people that yes it is *treatable* with medication, but it is NOT preventable, it is not avoidable, and there is no cure for it. A very sad thing. If you're finsing episodes of paranoia about other people, the government, spying on you, hallucinations both visual and auditory in your early teens to mid 20s, go get that checked immediately.
I'm glad someone has finally said it. Just all that you went on to discuss with Twomad. He was another case of mentally ill schizoid going down a bad slope and everyone is just fixated on the immediate actions than the implications of where it may be coming from. It was no different from Kanye, as he had yet another mental breakdown and went on his tirades. The guy has been on a spiral ever since his mother passed away.
truly i have depression and truly i dont like saying it but its true, and when it comes on it comes in waves really and i get bad stuff in my brain when it comes in waves and truly i could make stuff better in my life but i dont have any friends anymore and i'm in shut down mode really.
i get it, it happens. unfortunately, most people don't want to stick around someone who's depressed. which causes a bad chain reaction, since that's when you need people the most, but yet you also push them away? am i getting it right? you're in shut down mode, which is very difficult. are you able to reach out for help to a professional, maybe you have a psychologist or someone? it's still important to seek treatment in a trusted and safe environment. do you have family or live with anyone who can help?
Weird to me how absolutely everything in this video down to the ending saying goon and play overwatch but leave your room and help someone spoke to me DIRECTLY. Thanks guys for this, probably hard to make but youre helping way more than any potential hurt by treading around this topic. Thanks.
Have they already talked about David foster Wallace on irony and difficulty of sincerity somewhere? He’s a very interesting character, aware and articulate but lacking in some fundamentally felt meaning in a way that ultimately killed him. Also has some reflections on young fame and delusion in some interviews I believe.
ok greg is trying to dissect the situation but he cant help seeing every point of view so he talks himself out of making conclusions, and brogen is just positing conservative takes because he needs a tangible fix it solution that may or may not work
@@fartbox8956 his entire persona is! Unless you JUST found this man you'd know he says all sorts of contradictory and confusing stuff with no clear real opinions. His whole "meta-irony" schtick is just a way to get away with talking out of both sides of his mouth
The situation felt particularly poignant to me because I remember everything that happened with Etika in 2019 and I could tell that Twomad was heading down that same path. I personally related to Twomad because all of his actions on twitter reminded me of my own: the attention seeking, pushing the envelope and all the mania. I recognized all the cries for help because it was some shit that I would do. For the first time I felt like someone else was going through the same things I was going through and it made me reevaluate my behavior from another perspective. When I think of him, I see a deeply flawed, scarred, hurt and insecure individual that needed the internet to feel any semblance of happiness, no matter how artificial. I'm not defending his shitty actions, but I think he could have had the opportunity to atone. Seeing people actively celebrate his death was sad.
47:48 literally the EXACT words i needed to hear. For 3 years straight ive been taking my failure to solve all my problems in my room as some sort of reflection on the world. Shit needs to change man
I mean. Idk i feel like his mental illness, and addiction issues play so much of a bigger role in his death, than internet fame or him feeling he needed to be a spectacle. Look back at how he was in high school before he was famous, and look at everything that led to the spiral. The allegations, and addiction were clearly much more the part that lead directly to the path it went down
Atomization is a terrible thing. Spent the past year and a half unplugging from discord and going out and making friends. Hockey league was a big thing for me, much larger irl circle now. Shit can get better and when it does the tiny box you lived in before seems like a distant memory. Unironically touch grass it will make your life better I promise.
Are you sure Twomad didn't just have autism? I'm currently in the process of getting diagnosed myself and can relate to some of the struggles he was having. Obviously his case was worse but the drugs and extreme isolation certainly didn't help.
dude, sometimes you are in bad and you CANT do those basic ass things that dont always help at that point you need the people around you, those who you rely on as they do on you
mhm fr. i'm really going through this myself recently. i think this is really hard to grasp for people who've never experienced it themselves (or maybe someone very close to them did... maybe). even for me, you know those tiktoks and videos of people cleaning the home of someone who is or has been extremely mentally unwell, like the really really bad ones? i've never been that bad, so it's hard to truly understand how someone could live in those conditions and let it go that far. but it surely tells you something about mental illness. i'm not familiar with artchad, but he seems to have the standard jordan peterson, american conservative type of view. which i don't think is inherently bad. helpful for some, no doubt. but when we talk about mental illness, and very debilitating ones at that - like schizophrenia, major depressive, bipolar, and so on - it's a whole different thing. i'm glad to see you and some comments point this out, because this "pull yourself up by the bootstraps" mindset i find to be harmful sometimes. it makes you feel even worse because you can't to those basic things, even tho you know they're basic, and used to be so easy, but yet you can't, even if you want to or even if you try but it doesn't help.
This shit happened to one of my uncle, he went psychodic and getting arrested before he really would have fucked up is probably what helped the most (he got an unregistered pit bull and all), but in a country like the USA where judgment is punitive rather than restorative, I don't think this would work very much On one hand I believe we should arrest every drama youtubers doing shit like chris chan documentary and throw away the key because they are the internet fuel that are causing this, on the other Twomad was a grown man and those are the people who have the freedom to make their own decisions, you can't help someone who doesn't want to be helped and will make up any excuses to consider themselves a lost cause It's a cautionnary tale that this shit can happen and happen too often than we might think, I've known so many people starting to act weird and psychotic and die within the following 5 years
Notice how bunch of TH-camrs are about twomad but they don't care about your uncle. The only reason these guys give a shit is because too mad was in the public eye. They don't actually care about people. I don't trust a single word that comes out of Jreg's mouth when is persona for years and years was based off of not actually knowing what he believes. He speaks out of both sides of his mouth to get attention. This man is a fucking sociopath and no one can convince me otherwise.
@@Nagasakevideo I think Jreg mostly cares because he knew twomad and tried himself to get involved, he mentionned it in another video that he kind of tried to nudge him in the right way but i do agree there is a lot of survivor biais in what he is saying on the matter. This illustrates pretty well my point that he had several people who were willing to help that he pushed away. His mental state does explain a lot but doesn't justify anything either. The sign that really disturbed me was seeing my uncle, who used to help me pass hard level on tony hawk, completely lose the mental ability to play videogames and not even realize it. Twomad was still out there playing videogames and streaming shit, he was a grown man who was still able to make logical decisions too, and it's those decisions that led him to die Honestly the fact that after his death, the first reaction he and others people got was to not mourn the person he was, but rather open a discussion on the person he could have been is enough to make me realize they're aware it was nothing much than a life wasted on hatred, self isolation and internet brainrot. That's just some Dear Evan Hansen shit
I don't know anyone more equipped than you, Jreg, to speak on this. I appreciate your thoughts, and helps process wtf is going on in this cursed hedonic treadmill of the internet. I hope like minded people can see this as a warning.
Hello Gregory, it's Patricia. I'd like to invite you and your friend I met on Sunday around dinner some time this week. Let me know what you'd like and I'll go grocery shopping the day before. I'm sure Papaya and Lavender would love to see you too. But if you're not feeling up to it, I can drop it off by your doorstep on Thursday, it's no trouble because I'm meeting with Sharla that afternoon anyway. Don't worry about the windows for now, they'll still be here when you're good and ready for them.
9:42 he was also diagnosed with adhd id imagine that the adhd was an earlier diagnosis and he was still on stimulants because of that. we can conclude from his history that his psychosis likely wasn't as severe back then as it was by the end of his life, so that's probably the explanation.
This hit me hard. Idk i found Twomad like a kindred spirit because ive battled with being an eccentric person and having intense social phobia + introversion. He was so young. I didnt know about the ketamine thing. Thats so serious man, thats a serious drug! His self esteem was so dependent on his character and it just broke him. He was too young when this all started. He never developed. Rest in peace poor boy.
i loved this podcast. Woke me up a bit and helped me introspect my life a bit more and confirmed some thoughts ive had. BUT 35:21 I couldnt believe my ears he said "sillian" its Cillian, phonetically "Kill Ian", i am also irish and alsways thought irish pronunciations being hard was a joke bur apparently not.
12:30 "when someone is being an objectively bad person, and the fact that they're being a bad person is a direct result of their mental illness, what do you do?" Thats a good question and a very very hard one. My personal opinion, comes from the level of both the severity of their illness, and how self-aware they are of that illness, and whether they can be reasoned down to reality from that episode. If there is absolutely ZERO reasoning with them to reality, coupled with them having zero self-awareness that this may be a dysfunction in their connection to reality, then that person is a definitely highly potential danger to themselves and people around them at least temporarily. Because you have no idea how they will respond to any stimuli, no matter how big or small.. also guy on the left, at 13:40 says this guy had SIX different burner phones so he could continuously harass this woman and gey around her blocking him (textbook stalker behaviour) and you then say 'oh but that's not indicative of someone with enough mental oeganization to "DO" something? I'm sorry but areyou insane? He has the oegganixayion to buy and operate six burner phones and stalk this woman, how muxh more organizational skills do you need to hurt someone? Which stalkers usually escalate to eventually? I'm not shitting on your friend, or his loss, I'm just hearing some wild and quite honestly uninformed takes those with really serious mental health issues
next time please have jreg on the right ear, artchad on the left and whatever special guest in both so I can know more easily who's chatting at the moment without occasionally having to tab back in because your voices are vaguely similar
bro why does the podcast guy keep saying stuff like "most of the two mad allegations are overblown" or If I read something over rape or pedophilia on twitter its probably just 'some' discord messages"? Big Red Flag bro...
Glad someone else pointed this out. Also the comment about getting multiple messages from an unhinged man not being a big deal…seems obvious to me he (tucked shirt fellow) doesn’t have many close relationships with women. Men who behave like this kill women. It’s terrifying to be a woman and have a man go to such great lengths to keep contacting you and harass you, because often this leads behavior to stalking, physical assault and murder. This is not a dramatic twitter take, It is a fact.
He sent her repeated “psychotic” messages from multiple numbers after she kept blocking him. That is terrifying and who is he to say that wouldn’t lead to anywhere worse. It does all the time. That bothered me so much.
@@bbygpa i missed the comment about the harassment not being a big deal but wasn't his point just that people butcher the definitions of heavy words like rape to the point where they don't mean what they originally did? i don't think he was trying to downplay how bad twomad was more that he wasn't a rapist simply because he doesen't fit the defininition and drawing that line is important because rape allegations lose all meaning if they are just thrown around loosely.
19:38 idk what race realism is ngl.. but his parents probably had to escape from war and conflict if hes ethiopian. like they probably knew ppl in winnepeg so just moved where they knew. but yeah, ig it would be better if they moved somewhere warmer
if you get through an hour of this without describing the difference between a socially polite and a communally kind act i swear up and down and to every conceivable face (cause that is the brainworm it is the trauma wrought by social hierarchy)
by the way, be snappy! be sassy! *get to the root of problems and face them* through whatever lashing out necessary as long as it is to do that and not avoid it lashing out as an answer but a finger pointed to the problem. it is more kind than the polite going back into your shell to satiate others discomfort regardless of the true root of the problem that causally led to current issues and harsh responses. not doing so is the definition of fascism, suppression (of the self or others!) in the name of tolerance. it builds a society open to what? hierarchy. which kills community.
In the future I would avoid the topic of mental health. Its a very delicate time to talk about it and if you say things like "schizophrenia is preventable" or "his mind was gobbledeegook" you really really just shouldn't say anything. Don't contribute to the downfall of young mens mental health via misinformation and ignorance. There is enough of that already. Just do your thing, enjoy your podcast and talk about the things you do understand. Obviously Twomads mental health is relevant here but the general statements of mental health made even within the first 10 minutes here are incredibly dangerous to young people. Can you envision someone with mental illness being harrassed and bullied by their peers because you implied that their schizophrenia is a choice they make? Don't you think the stigma is debilitating and humiliating enough? The unalive rates of schizophrenics is scary. My concern comes from seeing it in my own family. The sweetest girl I ever knew, loved me more than anybody in the family because "you're the only one who understands". She ended up under a train because nobody else understood them, because they felt excluded and unlovable because of their unpredictable episodes. Which was not true, despite the bullying she endured, despite the struggle for love and the pain of her illness she was the most loving and kindest person I ever knew. A blessing. It wasn't a choice, if she had a choice she would have chose anything else. And yes she took her medication consistently. No sympathy required it was almost 10 years ago. Schizophrenia has no prevention and dont take my word for it. I highly encourage you to educate yourself.
I've got something too say so I'll say it like I said it on the last video you made trashing two mad. I don't think it was the internet that ruined h3h3 or especially twomad. I think it was the pressure of societies malignant super-ego compelling the both of them to conform to standards that were not their own through avenues similar to sweet baby inc.(who i'm sure you'll defend) that ruined them as well as many others. I'm sure other people, including the two I just mentioned, have felt that way about religious social authority and not just about secular authority. My point is; I recognize secular and religious authority as two arms of the same beast putting people through unnecessary stress and putting the blame for it on "the other" instead of on authority. Sneako was trash by design.
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As a coloured person from Winnipeg who abuses stimulants and has dormant schizophrenia (drug induced psychoses multiple occasions), I’m taking this as a wake up call.
Best of luck - and keep the strength
You make it sound like you’re a peacock.
Definitely get your vitamin D my man.
All the best
whattt I'm from Winnipeg too
take care bud
Thank you so much for fixing this. I listen to these podcasts on my tractor and it makes it hard to focus on the field while I am listening if the audio is bad. You’ve made this much more accessible for me and I appreciate that.
Only way to listen to HST is on a tractor. most based HST listener.
>not listening HST at blue collar job
@@minaDesuDesuyou think being a farmer isn't a blue collar job?
@@Nagasakevideo no, working on a tractor is exactly what I meant, as myself Im doing warehouse gigs
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Mental health advocates on twitter when the person who struggles with mental health acts crazy:
Basically "Can you be mentally deranged in a socially acceptable manner?"
Real.
Isn't that the irony of the internet.
Exactly, they act like people with mental illness are perfect victims of their disease but in reality, it's not binary as they think it is, work for an NGO, you will see, these people will steal your stuff with no second thoughts and run away, that's why I believe, people who can tolerate these people, be it therapists, social workers or clinical psychologists probably have the patience of a saint, they deserve a higher pay imo, chief justice Thomas Clarence is delusional if he thinks he deserves a pay raise
Exactly, they act like people with mental problems are perfect victims of their disease but in reality, it's not binary as they think it is, work for an NGO, you will see, these people will steal your stuff with no second thoughts and run away, that's why I believe, people who can tolerate these people, be it therapists, social workers or clinical psychologists probably have the patience of a saint, they deserve a higher pay imo, chief justice Thomas Clarence is delusional if he thinks he deserves a pay raise
Seeing Greg genuinely tear up was very helpful in mourning. To see the internet funnyman who actually talked to him actually express the pain of a life lost is really moving and i think helpful in uncovering the genuine human connection and ultimate humanist direction "Jreg" as a project points to. great words on here. havent finished but felt i wanted to bookmark this
even if you're just cooking a meal or filling your car's tank up, reminder to ask a friend if they'd like to accompany you. quality time is anytime.
What friends?
@@Nagasakevideo Ironically that is exactly how I make friends, just talking about things in common and proposing things. Like just making small talk in class or at work, then after gaining confidence you can invite him for a beer, or a small meal or sumn. I have gone on accidental road trips with my best friends and became better friends through shared hardship.
I totally agree on the mental health vs agency bit and I have one thing to add which is: accepting help is a huge factor there. Like sometimes you really can't take care of yourself, like you need someone to get you started on recovery, especially if you're really physically weak. But if you can't set aside your pride to take someone's support, its like what you were saying, that part is on you
Also not to police but ironic that the rant about proper definitions (which I do agree with!) was followed by calling things retarded lmfao
Notice Jreg didn't do his usual fake sounding nervous laugh during this one, that tells you how sincere he was during this.
I don't believe he has sincere beliefs. Entire persona for years and years was based off of not knowing what he believes. I think he's a good enough actor to fake sincerity. Don't trust this man, he doesn't have any true beliefs he just says whatever he needs to to get rewarded and get attention!
@@Nagasakevideo Interesting. Jreg's whole appeal has always been deconstruction anyway, so I never need to trust his beliefs, only that he would turn out interesting videos. If you are taking his art coaching courses, you would need to trust him, but I already disagree with his views on what he considers making it as an artist (regardless on if he believes them or not). So I can do that, because trusting him is irrelevant to me.
@@covereye5731 is that really what he considers making it as an artist? Or is that just what he's SAYING? You can't believe a single thing this man says!
you are a parrot just stop @@Nagasakevideo
I think about the community thing often. I’m a regular church goer, so I have community kinda built in. I would genuinely be incredibly depressed if I didn’t have that in my life
This is genuinely heartbreaking. Just I really like him (Greg), barely parasocial but he’s genuinely helped me through tough times and just for self exploration or not… just seeing him so sad, it’s very heart breaking. Hope you’re well Hun
Greg, thank you for speaking about this objectively. It truly is imperative that we as fellow humans discuss this issue of atomization. The points you've made regarding the inherent issues with societal fame at a young age are spot on. I truly hope you are doing fine after this troubling time in your life as well.
oh man now I feel bad that I made them reupload the whole thing to fix the audio. thank you jreg et al.!
As someone who has dealt with social anxiety, there have been times when I go out with friends, and when I go home I DO regret going out and I end up wishing I had stayed in my room all day. Of course, this was not rational and after more reflection I don't regret going out even though it felt painful. I'm doing better now because I got those uncomfortable "practice interactions" in. Go outside. Please go outside.
as a young person, I never really thought about how important talking to people really is. I guess being at school everyday has made me take it for granted, but all your ramblings about community has really made me realize how important that is to me. Thank you
18:00 counterpoint: got diagnosed with autism after a life of depression, anxiety, and feeling like I was teetering the edge of insanity every three weeks. I was able to help myself only my once I gave up all feelings of responsibility for any one but myself, and then only the things I could actually control. Funnily enough, when you focus on yourself and cultivate intuition, you discover how others are intrinsically a part of you and you of them. Things that put me on the path of betterment (away from a BPD-diagnosis) followed naturally from there. I know they are mostly talking about a specific case, but
twomads saga as I said really reminds me of the book "the Great Gatsby " for some reason,
gatsby didn't feel like he was shot, it feels like in the end he was killed by the society of america rather than any individual just like how twomads death seems to be the result of the internet
Guy who has only read one book and it's The Great Gatsby:
@@Riskofdisconnect bruh just an example i usually read sci fi lmao
@@NeostormXLMAX just a jest my guy
Yeah, I’ve heard this book being referenced before with Twomad
Schizophrenia runs in my family and I'm absolutely mortified of getting it
its back lets goo!! other than that i wanna say my thoughts. I used to be one of those people who straight up celebrating his death but after thinking about it, its really fucking sad rather than funny. He was a horrible person no doubt but he died so young and he could've gotten help and i can't imagine what his family and friends are feeling. the title of the video is truly accurate. Also I can hear the audio.
dude the audio mixing shouldn't be this centrist i hate it.
in all seriousness this convinced me to stop wasting calories thinking about some random socialist and his porn folder
Dude straight up
1# Short stacked goblin fan is no socialist brother, he likes to think he is a revolutinaire but he is a liberal at best, but you are right, we should not think of Tacoma wept
@@pablobarrios7681 i dislike the horse enthusiast as much as the next guy but to claim that he's a "liberal at best" is crazy
@@cool_bug_factsyeah but i mean he literally advocates for the status quo, just a "libbed up" version of it. plus hes a pedo
Hello, Gregory. I am knitting you something, and it should take about a week to finish... Hope it can bring you come comfort.
Love Sandra
As a non-white person in Scandinavia, I can say that I do need more vitamin D. In fact I take supplements. The relation to Schizophrenia, less aware
Go home. You will soon feel the outcome of our exhaustion.
Am I the only one who CAN hear this?
yes >:)
i can too
41:57 twomad actually did have a mentor living with him who was a family friend when he was sixteen around the same time he made nerf lucio
Good wake-up call for the many of us going down the path to schizophrenia. Thanks guys
Wake up call might not be the right term but I think you understand
unfortunately most don't realise it until it's too late. hence, delusions and so on. esp in gradual onset cases
@@ElJebetequa that's what my psychologist tells me. As cliche as it may sound, jreg has helped me a lot with recognizing it. Love the Louis Wain pfp btw
@@samb._. I'm glad, whatever helps! didn't help me unfortunately lol. but I think he's helped me accept it and not be in denial. and thanks, i find that wain's cat paintings strike the perfect balance between cute and uncanny, they bring me much joy haha. wishing you well on your" journey" or whatever ❤
@@ElJebetequa I appreciate it, same to you
every video you guys post, I have so much to write in response to that it overwhelms me and I decide not to comment anything instead.
never knew this channel existed im subbed now
Male socialization moment
left a card and some flowers on the doorstep my grandniece picked from,my gardens. On the doorstep.....and a whiskey for your friend....take care
Jim
Yea imma go outside for this one
twomad wasnt a saint,but he still deserves respect for the sake of his family
I see a lot of his haters be like "feel bad for his family though" so I guess that's where you got that inspiration from since people always parrot each other BUT when it comes to having to respect someone because of their family?? That's reta*ded, everyone has a family which means you can say sh*t about any dead person by that logic whatever vague definition of respect you use
For the record, I'm NOT one of twomad haters by the way. rip
I get where you're coming from, but I had friends like this and the pushing of boundaries can get uncomfortably physical to the point where it would end up with us throwing hands. The part where you talked about the popcorn on the floor, that's what stuck to me. It's great you thought it was funny and cute but these types of gestures in friendships can escalate into them doing some nasty things if you don't call them out on it. It seemed like Twomad was one of those people that just liked pushing the envelope, and not in a good way. Had a buddy who liked to tickle me, and he ended up doing it while I was WEIGHT-TRAINING. I don't usually get mad, and it's pretty hard for me to get angry, but I was furious when he did that during a deadlift. When I got physical with him, he still thought it was a joke. This is the type of personality I see when I view someone like Twomad. Can't say I feel sorry for him.
nice fit gr eg (seeing him so upset made me cry for 20 minutes)
I was 20 in 2004. (England pre internet) Nearly all my close friends were total nutjobs in one way or another. Drugs, drinking, partying, vandalism, dropouts, squats etc.
On a fairly regular basis one of us would loose our shit and do something off the chain. Mostly with the harm turned inward on themselves, or taken outward and smash up anything breakable objects nearby.
We all had an acute sense that we needed each other to hold us down before we exploded, or help pick up the pieces after the fact. No deeper judgement was really necessary as the person more often than not was their own harshest critic, and just needed what they already knew reaffirmed.
We had music to help calm the savage beast, the only thing that worked for me incidentally.
Since a lot of my friendship group have had kids or atomised for other reasons, things have got worse for them as individuals. We've lost our main source of stability, which was each other.
I miss that solidarity immensely, even now. I miss helping my friends, I miss laughing at ourselves and our shortcomings, and I miss the those 3-4 day sessions where we could all transcend our bullshit and have a perfect day together.
Love and violence. "Suffering is pain without love." Spot on.
Community is huge, man. Learning about and internalizing anarchism (I had some good mentors that pushed me towards it) has really made me community centered and helped me start helping others. Mutual aid dude, be there for each other.
Muudea died so we had to learn a lesson on how much of an impact internet audience has on a misguided person… rip, watch over us from above so we do better ❤
It’s also the first “celebrity” death that impacted my repeated su1c1d3 thoughts. It fucks with you in another way, it’s not just sad, it’s so much more. I did attach myself to him through his videos and humor and I will miss that, but I will not miss the person he became before passing.
Audio cant be broken if it ain't there
E: It has returned
I've had two family members die to schizophrenia related (complications) and one cousin went missing and is still missing who had recently been diagnosed with the disease. It's hard to know there's not much you can do besides offer to help them since most schizophrenia gets diagnosed in the mid to late 20s and at that point they are an adult and treatment depends on self care. It sucks and I'm afraid it might be happening to me
9:24 How could we reward people for expressing themselves better ?
I mean, disorganized thought are entertaining and they allow us to project meaning into them, ourselves and see things that may or may not be there.
There's value is partial organisation, see Jackson Pollock paintings (presumably) or even pareidolia.
With that said, organized thought can be dry, boring, redundant, tedious, obvious, artless.
In the case of this person, who is chasing clout, fame and other sustenance. As long as they get brain reward chemicals, the feeling of progress and sustenance, why would they have gone for ordered thought ?
The Vile Offspring
The question of how to reward people for expressing themselves more clearly, especially in the context of digital platforms where disorganized thought can be both entertaining and lucrative, is complex. It touches on the broader issue of the incentives created by social media and the kind of content that these platforms promote.
Firstly, it's important to recognize the value in all forms of expression, whether organized or disorganized. Artistic expressions like those of Jackson Pollock or instances of pareidolia where we see patterns in randomness, serve important purposes in culture and personal expression. They evoke emotion, provoke thought, and can be deeply meaningful.
However, when it comes to personal expression, especially in cases where someone is experiencing mental health issues or is in a vulnerable state, the value of coherent communication cannot be understated. Clarity in thought and expression can lead to better understanding, support, and potentially life-saving interventions.
To encourage more organized thought in contexts where disorganized expression is being rewarded due to its entertainment value, several strategies could be considered:
Creating Supportive Communities: Platforms can foster environments where clarity and depth are valued. Communities that encourage meaningful discussions and provide constructive feedback can incentivize individuals to express themselves more coherently.
Educational Resources: Providing resources and tools that help individuals learn how to organize their thoughts and express themselves more effectively can be beneficial. Workshops, tutorials, and access to mental health resources can empower individuals to improve their communication skills.
Highlighting Diverse Content: Platforms can make a concerted effort to showcase a variety of content types, including those that feature well-organized thought and deep insights. By diversifying what is considered valuable content, platforms can broaden the definition of what is rewarding.
Incentive Structures: Rethinking how rewards are distributed on social media platforms could also play a role. If algorithms are designed to value not just engagement in the form of likes and shares but also the depth and coherence of content, this could shift the incentives for creators.
Mental Health Awareness: Increasing awareness about mental health and its impact on communication can foster a more understanding and supportive environment. Recognizing the signs of someone struggling and providing avenues for help can make a significant difference.
In the case of someone chasing clout or fame, the pursuit of brain reward chemicals through social media validation is a powerful motivator. To shift towards more ordered thought, the individual would need to see clear benefits in doing so, not just in terms of social media metrics but in their overall well-being and personal growth. This requires a cultural shift both on and off social media platforms, where the value is placed not just on what is immediately entertaining or engaging but on what is meaningful, supportive, and enriching.
i love you guys. keep up the podcasts
Absolutely fantastic mug placement you sly devils.
7:15 schizophrenia is NOT *preventable*. It is TREATABLE. It's thought that the earlier you can notice and start dealing with symptoms the better prepared you can be to deal with episodes, but if you're schizophrenic, you are schizophrenic and will be for life (so far in medicine). and as it starts it continue to get worse up until your personal "level" of it.
Ofc people have episodes of it, kt's not at 100% always, some are more severe or aggressive they can go from connected to reality to a paranoid mess, but I just really wanted to clarify to people that yes it is *treatable* with medication, but it is NOT preventable, it is not avoidable, and there is no cure for it. A very sad thing.
If you're finsing episodes of paranoia about other people, the government, spying on you, hallucinations both visual and auditory in your early teens to mid 20s, go get that checked immediately.
I'm glad someone has finally said it.
Just all that you went on to discuss with Twomad.
He was another case of mentally ill schizoid going down a bad slope and everyone is just fixated on the immediate actions than the implications of where it may be coming from.
It was no different from Kanye, as he had yet another mental breakdown and went on his tirades. The guy has been on a spiral ever since his mother passed away.
truly i have depression and truly i dont like saying it but its true, and when it comes on it comes in waves really and i get bad stuff in my brain when it comes in waves and truly i could make stuff better in my life but i dont have any friends anymore and i'm in shut down mode really.
i get it, it happens. unfortunately, most people don't want to stick around someone who's depressed. which causes a bad chain reaction, since that's when you need people the most, but yet you also push them away? am i getting it right?
you're in shut down mode, which is very difficult. are you able to reach out for help to a professional, maybe you have a psychologist or someone? it's still important to seek treatment in a trusted and safe environment. do you have family or live with anyone who can help?
Weird to me how absolutely everything in this video down to the ending saying goon and play overwatch but leave your room and help someone spoke to me DIRECTLY. Thanks guys for this, probably hard to make but youre helping way more than any potential hurt by treading around this topic. Thanks.
Have they already talked about David foster Wallace on irony and difficulty of sincerity somewhere? He’s a very interesting character, aware and articulate but lacking in some fundamentally felt meaning in a way that ultimately killed him. Also has some reflections on young fame and delusion in some interviews I believe.
gregg dissociating while bor;s just bitching about personal responsability
At least Artchad has actual opinions. Greg just says whatever gets attention. He has no real opinions on anything.
@@Nagasakevideo what about jreg is invoking you to be This inflammatory
ok greg is trying to dissect the situation but he cant help seeing every point of view so he talks himself out of making conclusions, and brogen is just positing conservative takes because he needs a tangible fix it solution that may or may not work
@@fartbox8956 his entire persona is! Unless you JUST found this man you'd know he says all sorts of contradictory and confusing stuff with no clear real opinions. His whole "meta-irony" schtick is just a way to get away with talking out of both sides of his mouth
@@squarrot9355 no dude, my point is that NOTHING JREG SAYS can be taken seriously. He is continually shown to be untrustworthy.
My favorite part is jreg picking zyn byts off the couch and himself to rub into his gums. Great stuff.
I don't know what this podcast is but this video made me instantly subscribed just from JrEg's mental breakdown about the lack of healthcare.
The situation felt particularly poignant to me because I remember everything that happened with Etika in 2019 and I could tell that Twomad was heading down that same path. I personally related to Twomad because all of his actions on twitter reminded me of my own: the attention seeking, pushing the envelope and all the mania. I recognized all the cries for help because it was some shit that I would do. For the first time I felt like someone else was going through the same things I was going through and it made me reevaluate my behavior from another perspective. When I think of him, I see a deeply flawed, scarred, hurt and insecure individual that needed the internet to feel any semblance of happiness, no matter how artificial. I'm not defending his shitty actions, but I think he could have had the opportunity to atone.
Seeing people actively celebrate his death was sad.
its just Etika all over again. in less than 5 years too. this will likely become a trend now.
47:48 literally the EXACT words i needed to hear. For 3 years straight ive been taking my failure to solve all my problems in my room as some sort of reflection on the world. Shit needs to change man
I mean. Idk i feel like his mental illness, and addiction issues play so much of a bigger role in his death, than internet fame or him feeling he needed to be a spectacle.
Look back at how he was in high school before he was famous, and look at everything that led to the spiral. The allegations, and addiction were clearly much more the part that lead directly to the path it went down
They should fix the audio where it's only jreg speaking
This should definitely be talked about Justaminx and jameskii put harsh illegal claims on twomad only after his death because now they cannot be sued
Atomization is a terrible thing. Spent the past year and a half unplugging from discord and going out and making friends. Hockey league was a big thing for me, much larger irl circle now. Shit can get better and when it does the tiny box you lived in before seems like a distant memory. Unironically touch grass it will make your life better I promise.
Are you sure Twomad didn't just have autism? I'm currently in the process of getting diagnosed myself and can relate to some of the struggles he was having. Obviously his case was worse but the drugs and extreme isolation certainly didn't help.
there is a lot of overlap between autism & schizophrenia
neither is real@@bellajudyy
@@jaredchn so true
I feel as though Jreg has an ifunny account
dude, sometimes you are in bad and you CANT do those basic ass things that dont always help
at that point you need the people around you, those who you rely on as they do on you
mhm fr. i'm really going through this myself recently. i think this is really hard to grasp for people who've never experienced it themselves (or maybe someone very close to them did... maybe). even for me, you know those tiktoks and videos of people cleaning the home of someone who is or has been extremely mentally unwell, like the really really bad ones? i've never been that bad, so it's hard to truly understand how someone could live in those conditions and let it go that far. but it surely tells you something about mental illness.
i'm not familiar with artchad, but he seems to have the standard jordan peterson, american conservative type of view. which i don't think is inherently bad. helpful for some, no doubt. but when we talk about mental illness, and very debilitating ones at that - like schizophrenia, major depressive, bipolar, and so on - it's a whole different thing. i'm glad to see you and some comments point this out, because this "pull yourself up by the bootstraps" mindset i find to be harmful sometimes. it makes you feel even worse because you can't to those basic things, even tho you know they're basic, and used to be so easy, but yet you can't, even if you want to or even if you try but it doesn't help.
jreg is how i envision my ideal way of getting my point across
watching this alone in my room hits different
This shit happened to one of my uncle, he went psychodic and getting arrested before he really would have fucked up is probably what helped the most (he got an unregistered pit bull and all), but in a country like the USA where judgment is punitive rather than restorative, I don't think this would work very much
On one hand I believe we should arrest every drama youtubers doing shit like chris chan documentary and throw away the key because they are the internet fuel that are causing this, on the other Twomad was a grown man and those are the people who have the freedom to make their own decisions, you can't help someone who doesn't want to be helped and will make up any excuses to consider themselves a lost cause
It's a cautionnary tale that this shit can happen and happen too often than we might think, I've known so many people starting to act weird and psychotic and die within the following 5 years
Notice how bunch of TH-camrs are about twomad but they don't care about your uncle. The only reason these guys give a shit is because too mad was in the public eye. They don't actually care about people.
I don't trust a single word that comes out of Jreg's mouth when is persona for years and years was based off of not actually knowing what he believes. He speaks out of both sides of his mouth to get attention. This man is a fucking sociopath and no one can convince me otherwise.
@@Nagasakevideo I think Jreg mostly cares because he knew twomad and tried himself to get involved, he mentionned it in another video that he kind of tried to nudge him in the right way but i do agree there is a lot of survivor biais in what he is saying on the matter. This illustrates pretty well my point that he had several people who were willing to help that he pushed away.
His mental state does explain a lot but doesn't justify anything either. The sign that really disturbed me was seeing my uncle, who used to help me pass hard level on tony hawk, completely lose the mental ability to play videogames and not even realize it. Twomad was still out there playing videogames and streaming shit, he was a grown man who was still able to make logical decisions too, and it's those decisions that led him to die
Honestly the fact that after his death, the first reaction he and others people got was to not mourn the person he was, but rather open a discussion on the person he could have been is enough to make me realize they're aware it was nothing much than a life wasted on hatred, self isolation and internet brainrot. That's just some Dear Evan Hansen shit
I hope JREG was joking when comparing twomad to Etika, because man...
I don't know anyone more equipped than you, Jreg, to speak on this. I appreciate your thoughts, and helps process wtf is going on in this cursed hedonic treadmill of the internet. I hope like minded people can see this as a warning.
you dont get in the way of someone *blazing* their way to a pit, rather help those who are *stumbling* in
hi. I am 18, and i have some light psychotic symptoms. Surely nothing will go wrong if i will start doing youtube videos 😌
I just want to know how to avoid unorganised thoughts, scatterbrain is so painful
Hello Gregory, it's Patricia. I'd like to invite you and your friend I met on Sunday around dinner some time this week. Let me know what you'd like and I'll go grocery shopping the day before. I'm sure Papaya and Lavender would love to see you too. But if you're not feeling up to it, I can drop it off by your doorstep on Thursday, it's no trouble because I'm meeting with Sharla that afternoon anyway. Don't worry about the windows for now, they'll still be here when you're good and ready for them.
9:42 he was also diagnosed with adhd
id imagine that the adhd was an earlier diagnosis and he was still on stimulants because of that. we can conclude from his history that his psychosis likely wasn't as severe back then as it was by the end of his life, so that's probably the explanation.
he would be disappointed in how serious everyone is being about him, not that I give a fuck, I love what can be learned from it
Never expected this 2 guys to be friends
I mean he seemed hell bent on being his own cause of destruction to me
This hit me hard. Idk i found Twomad like a kindred spirit because ive battled with being an eccentric person and having intense social phobia + introversion. He was so young. I didnt know about the ketamine thing. Thats so serious man, thats a serious drug! His self esteem was so dependent on his character and it just broke him. He was too young when this all started. He never developed. Rest in peace poor boy.
Same dude. As a weird dude, I strongly sympathize with the social category in which he was placed.
He liked kids, dawg...
i loved this podcast. Woke me up a bit and helped me introspect my life a bit more and confirmed some thoughts ive had.
BUT 35:21 I couldnt believe my ears he said "sillian" its Cillian, phonetically "Kill Ian", i am also irish and alsways thought irish pronunciations being hard was a joke bur apparently not.
12:30 "when someone is being an objectively bad person, and the fact that they're being a bad person is a direct result of their mental illness, what do you do?" Thats a good question and a very very hard one. My personal opinion, comes from the level of both the severity of their illness, and how self-aware they are of that illness, and whether they can be reasoned down to reality from that episode. If there is absolutely ZERO reasoning with them to reality, coupled with them having zero self-awareness that this may be a dysfunction in their connection to reality, then that person is a definitely highly potential danger to themselves and people around them at least temporarily. Because you have no idea how they will respond to any stimuli, no matter how big or small.. also guy on the left, at 13:40 says this guy had SIX different burner phones so he could continuously harass this woman and gey around her blocking him (textbook stalker behaviour) and you then say 'oh but that's not indicative of someone with enough mental oeganization to "DO" something? I'm sorry but areyou insane? He has the oegganixayion to buy and operate six burner phones and stalk this woman, how muxh more organizational skills do you need to hurt someone? Which stalkers usually escalate to eventually?
I'm not shitting on your friend, or his loss, I'm just hearing some wild and quite honestly uninformed takes those with really serious mental health issues
the cup is ironic as fuck.
Twomad fucking died? Shit
next time please have jreg on the right ear, artchad on the left and whatever special guest in both so I can know more easily who's chatting at the moment without occasionally having to tab back in because your voices are vaguely similar
some sort of issue involving lack of skill and karmic retribution
bro why does the podcast guy keep saying stuff like "most of the two mad allegations are overblown" or If I read something over rape or pedophilia on twitter its probably just 'some' discord messages"? Big Red Flag bro...
Glad someone else pointed this out. Also the comment about getting multiple messages from an unhinged man not being a big deal…seems obvious to me he (tucked shirt fellow) doesn’t have many close relationships with women. Men who behave like this kill women. It’s terrifying to be a woman and have a man go to such great lengths to keep contacting you and harass you, because often this leads behavior to stalking, physical assault and murder. This is not a dramatic twitter take, It is a fact.
He sent her repeated “psychotic” messages from multiple numbers after she kept blocking him. That is terrifying and who is he to say that wouldn’t lead to anywhere worse. It does all the time. That bothered me so much.
@@bbygpa i missed the comment about the harassment not being a big deal but wasn't his point just that people butcher the definitions of heavy words like rape to the point where they don't mean what they originally did? i don't think he was trying to downplay how bad twomad was more that he wasn't a rapist simply because he doesen't fit the defininition and drawing that line is important because rape allegations lose all meaning if they are just thrown around loosely.
Lol JREG’s face when talking about trading your soul for cash 😂
What microphone are you guys using.
i hav brainworm
I hope to be as kind and empathetic as y’all. keep it up 💕
Jreg is NOT kind and empathetic. His persona for YEARS was based on not knowing what he believes. He just says whatever gets attention and views.
@@Nagasakevideo lol
@@sheriboudreaux9078 not a joke. You've been had by a sociopath
@@Nagasakevideo why you watching then? curious
@@sheriboudreaux9078 for Artchad. And cause I'm a hater
"I wish people yapped more" No thanks
19:38 idk what race realism is ngl.. but his parents probably had to escape from war and conflict if hes ethiopian. like they probably knew ppl in winnepeg so just moved where they knew. but yeah, ig it would be better if they moved somewhere warmer
Update I learned what race realism is um I do not condone
18:05 me packing my second cone watching this: 😳
I’m justifying it because im going to work today
JREGS LAUGH IS TERRIFYING WHAT???
I dont think anyone was talking about it really
I think he was the one that overdosed by himself but idk tho
twomad was my boy and it's terrible what happened to him
his life became twitter and la. i think this fucked him up major
was he an addict before goldibell?
if you get through an hour of this without describing the difference between a socially polite and a communally kind act i swear up and down and to every conceivable face (cause that is the brainworm it is the trauma wrought by social hierarchy)
by the way, be snappy! be sassy! *get to the root of problems and face them* through whatever lashing out necessary as long as it is to do that and not avoid it lashing out as an answer but a finger pointed to the problem. it is more kind than the polite going back into your shell to satiate others discomfort regardless of the true root of the problem that causally led to current issues and harsh responses. not doing so is the definition of fascism, suppression (of the self or others!) in the name of tolerance. it builds a society open to what? hierarchy. which kills community.
In the future I would avoid the topic of mental health. Its a very delicate time to talk about it and if you say things like "schizophrenia is preventable" or "his mind was gobbledeegook" you really really just shouldn't say anything. Don't contribute to the downfall of young mens mental health via misinformation and ignorance. There is enough of that already. Just do your thing, enjoy your podcast and talk about the things you do understand. Obviously Twomads mental health is relevant here but the general statements of mental health made even within the first 10 minutes here are incredibly dangerous to young people. Can you envision someone with mental illness being harrassed and bullied by their peers because you implied that their schizophrenia is a choice they make? Don't you think the stigma is debilitating and humiliating enough? The unalive rates of schizophrenics is scary. My concern comes from seeing it in my own family. The sweetest girl I ever knew, loved me more than anybody in the family because "you're the only one who understands". She ended up under a train because nobody else understood them, because they felt excluded and unlovable because of their unpredictable episodes. Which was not true, despite the bullying she endured, despite the struggle for love and the pain of her illness she was the most loving and kindest person I ever knew. A blessing. It wasn't a choice, if she had a choice she would have chose anything else. And yes she took her medication consistently. No sympathy required it was almost 10 years ago. Schizophrenia has no prevention and dont take my word for it. I highly encourage you to educate yourself.
thank u for saying this
jreg literally has schizophrenia
they lied about twomad
No sound
Cool
I've got something too say so I'll say it like I said it on the last video you made trashing two mad. I don't think it was the internet that ruined h3h3 or especially twomad. I think it was the pressure of societies malignant super-ego compelling the both of them to conform to standards that were not their own through avenues similar to sweet baby inc.(who i'm sure you'll defend) that ruined them as well as many others. I'm sure other people, including the two I just mentioned, have felt that way about religious social authority and not just about secular authority. My point is; I recognize secular and religious authority as two arms of the same beast putting people through unnecessary stress and putting the blame for it on "the other" instead of on authority. Sneako was trash by design.
Wtf is going on with that guy's tucked shirt
I have audio
Who ordered the yappacino?
Ketamine and other mind altering drugs killed twomad that title is very bad