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Hey Don Robbie, it's about time you include Julian in your intro to this podcast. Just my thought.
Martinelli SCAPEGOATING is unreal
Created 4 goal scoring opportunities against lyon..(check the highlights)..OTHER PLAYERS MISSED SITTERS ON HIS PASSES
WAS MOTM AGAINST UTD
should have had an assist against liverpool..and played only 7 minutes against leverkusen
Had 13g/a in all comps in an injury plagued season...that was his "bad" season ..ESR HAD 12 G/A in all comps in his best season...
Well when you put it like that 💯
Why are you comparing a 20 year old smith rowe to a 23 yr old martinelli who in in his “injury season” still played 35 games in the league .
13 g/a all comps starting winger fighting for the league is bad
Martinelli is a very talented player that has been plagued by injuries but his ceiling is potentially very high there's a good reason the likes of klopp was always speaking highly of him and defenders hate playing against players with pace and he has pace and the technical ability to really hurt teams if he can stay fit and he gets the help saka gets on the right side thanks to Ben White and William saliba I agree his decision making has to improve that will come with more minutes and yes he's not the finished article yet but 1 not very good season doesn't make him a bad player and its very true that had players not missed as many chances that they did that Martinelli assisted then his assists would have been more than it was
@@JoshuaGuevara7 but how many game from the bench,how many game he got substituted even in game he play well, do you know? You should count the minutes per season, not the game.
@@chrispanteli6626You lost me at ‘technical ability’ lol
Arsenal talk starts at 17:30
He's got to decide quicker to be a great player in the mould of which he is, like there is a ball against lyon which he should have squared on first touch, but was a touch too late
should be ashamed of yaselves for questioning martinelli. hes incredible player
And then you woke up in 2024
He's better than trossard by a mile
Lol hes nowhere near an incredible player , last season he had a shocking season at his best hes very good but inconsistent af
This is why you aren’t getting the points to win the league. You are way of city’s and Liverpools best points tally’s and it’s because you need world class players martinelli isn’t that and neither is haverts, are they class? Yeah but compared to Mane Bobby and Salah and Sane Sterling Aguero the output isn’t there
@@glblock6236injured bro, you sound like a spurs fan
Why do we act like Saka isn’t just better? Martinelli’s decision making needs to improve and that’s one of Saka’s best attributes
I LOVE Martinelli. But I can’t help think he’d thrive in a different team. I’m not entirely convinced we are able to get the best out of him.
Can you hand on heart say he’d start for any other top team? I’m not giving up on him or anything, he still has potential and had been unlucky with injuries, but I absolutely believe this is a make or break season for him.
Barcelona and Serie A he'd be deadly
@@mondemdluli9 agreed!
he is a klopp player. No wonder he praised him soo mutch
Liverpool fan but just wanted to say good luck for the season , I don’t know if I hope you win it but I respect yous and the side you built so good luck YNWA
If it's not us I'd rather it be you guys
Just listening to two tactical masters slagging off one of the best players in the team just because he got injured Martinelli was bang out of order for getting injured
He’s only 22-23😭😭 one minor season and you guys are saying he’s make or break?
It’s almost comical
Weather you like it or not the average age in football today is much younger than
@@JJJ-7 i get that but the season prior he had 20+ goal involvements and was a highly rated winger. He had an injury last season that really limited his minutes and impact on the team as well. Saying its a make or break season is CRAZY
I think this also has to do with the fact that Arteta can be ruthless. For example, he tried buying Mudryk for like 70-80m when Martinelli was balling. It kinda shows that he may have already had plans to push Martinelli back. Also we are in a title race with a monster of a team so we genuinely can't afford players to drop off so much. A lot of fans love Martinelli, it's just questions, as we have high standards for him. And he has someone like Trossard who is hot on his tail, so it is essentially make or break.
Standards at Arsenal are high now
Martinelli and Saka were at the same level 3 years ago. Saka is now wayyyyy ahead because martinelli is still the same speedy winger head down and run with no end product
So why did martinelli score more goals the season before last he was literally our top scorer in the league
Spot on
Turned on to watch Julian, distraught he’s not there. Can’t wait to see him next week.
How many times do we need to remind Robbie that the only reason Rutter was sold for 40 mil was because that was his release clause
Yh so apparently martinelli who had a 1 poor season last season due to injuries for him its make or break but they dont talk about jesus like that or partey or eddie and reiss. Season before nelli scored 15 goals. The reason he dropped off was because of 3 injury setbacks last season
i think the left side has not been as creative since xhaka left also, hopefully calafiori or timber can help us bring some balance
All 4 playerz u mention r constantly under scrutiny
No they arent. Eddie yes but the others no one talks about them. Esr was another one who stunk it out for 2 years and eventually the fans wanted him gone. What im saying is there are more players at this club that do less than martinelli. Reiss eddie jesus zinchenko kiwior viera ramsdale just to name a thew who need going before him @@ReddyBrown147
Well maybe because the players you mentioned are squad players at this current time, it is make or break for martinelli because he is very upgradable in the starting XI
Don't forget what arteta& edu said a while back they will only buy players that enhance the squad and not waste money.
R.I.P Kevin 🙏🏾❤🤍✌🏽
Martinelli will come good (& he’s already been brilliant for us). He’s young & world class.
not worldclass hold your horses
World class? Good grief lol
Never will be world class stop the waffle
Only Arsenal fans could be speaking about Martinelli being expendable if he has a poor season whilst doing mental gymnastics to protect Havertz during his Arsenal career. Ironically most the people criticising Eddie claiming he needs to go will of been the same nut-huggers making excuses for him throughout his career.
Martinelli is just a road runner in my opinion,if only he had a little of Trossard technique or ball delivery
Martinelli just needs to lift his head up when he's running, that'll solve most of his problems
Well done Robbie 👊🏾 ❤🤍✌🏽
You talk make or break for Martinelli but yet from 22:15 mins the pair of you are bigging Eddie up ? Typical AFTV agenda let’s not upset the club too much we need our media passes 😂
Big respect for Lee Judges! He has a big heart!
I think martinelli looked sharp pre season recon he’s going to bang in the goals this season mind you Trossard looked really good pre season 👍
I don’t want to let Martinelli go guys bro don’t say that tho hopefully he goes crazy this season 😢❤
KC was a Great Gooner . Him & Wrighty were the Two Pronged Attack.
Rest in Peace 💐
Arteta's system stifles flair players like Gabbi - plus we don't have an odegard on his side!
Philippians 4:4-7 TPT
Be cheerful with joyous celebration in every season of life. Let your joy overflow! And let gentleness be seen in every relationship, for our Lord is ever near. Don't be pulled in different directions or worried about a thing.
Martinelli is good we know we love him in the champions he didn’t deliver he’s need to go crazy this season
Rest In peace Kevin Campbell you will be missed 🙏🏼🙏🏼 let's win the league for Kevin come on Arsenal GOYG ⚪🔴⚪🔴⚪🔴⚪🔴⚪🔴⚪
Robbie you're losing weight and it's great to see... keep winning King.
Eddy is on 100 thousand so that will affect the price. At that wage except for the top 6 that would make him the highest paid player on every other team ,and forget Europe.
He needs a Ben white type of player behind him .. he now has two guys that can do that we will see the best of him this season …
Califiori would be great at LB supporting him
Liverpool to Everton is a stones throw 😂😂 sounds good count me in 😂😂
If Robbie isn't recorded walking. It didn't happen
This show definitely needs a revamp or something. Julian is probably the best on it and he isn't on it for this episode. Time to get a show with someone like Curtis.
Well done and congratulations Robbie for your successful walk, Saturday i think we’re gonna get beat by Wolves (shock defeat) but it will kick start our season and we’ll go on an incredible season defining run
And end up as champions COYG’s
Make or break this season I would suggest is Fabio Vieira!
This is a make or break for him, he may go on to do even better and players need it but at the top level you have to perform week in week out ❤❤❤
I used to have high hopes for Martinelli, but I am quite convinced now, that he is like Walcott, lots of speed.... and that's it.
Martinelli would never score a goal like Walcott did against Newcastle
Bring back Julian
Lee you know What I mean..
It's make or break for Edu and Arteta. The shite they have been playing down the left has destroyed Martenelli. It's not rocket Science, Tierney and someone that did the basics like Xhaka unleashed Martenelli. The guys work rate and commitment is on an elite scale. Move the ball faster and give him some help on the overlap and you have a beast of a player.
I think we should expect a goal from Califioori in tomorrow,
Georgino is a release clause. If someone pays it they get him. It’s not comparable to eddies situation
Arsenal haggling this season is like our old days lol. Last few seasons we went in hard
Big Lee and the a f t v family we all miss super Kevin may his soul rest in peace
Amazing effort on the walk Robbie.
It's make or break for Arteta, not Martinelli. Arteta's delusion and stubbornness regarding our squad, from squad's depth to simply getting better players in obvious positions to make us a powerhouse, it's all on him!
Forgetting that Martinelli had an injury plauged season and like that didnt impact his performances is disapointing from these guys. where's James ???
He is rubbish and easily the weakest link in our attack, getting a player on the opposite wing close to the level of saka will drastically improve our dynamism
If we have partey fit they would get more goals mark my words
Anyone doubting martinelli is due for a shock this year I promise you
😂😂
Saka and martinelli are not on the same level
Where is Julian?
Fact is other teams dont rate Eddie at the value we do
Think arsenal's system last season kind of took away his confidence. One reason Trossard played better than him at the end of season is because he is more experienced, and don't get discouraged like young one.
Stop playing him out of position, having him on the wing gives him too much to think about, he was a CF when we signed him and was meant to be our future CF, he's shown he's a gunman down the middle.
Rutter isn't a striker BTW
Not a make or break season for Martinelli. You failed to consider that Martinelli and Trossard are two different profile of players. Plus, You have to consider the age factor. He still has a few more years of development to go than Trossard is.
Yeah Trossard actually has footballing IQ, and isn’t a headloss road runner
Martinelli is best when Jesus is playing in my opinion and I really think partey and rice lack creativity and it's them the interchange at the left 8 position all our goals come from the right side not martinellis fault
What are you even talking about? I've always liked him plus he's one of us culturally plus youre not getting better wingers right now without proving disloyalty to your players, there is no way.... Martinelli should be there until someone comes in as a number three and permanently unseats him or he gets a personal offer to go somewhere, which is more likely imo.... Anyways, I guess opinions differ. Don't get caught doing clickbait titles and in the end you cut off your nose to spite your face.
Tbh,, Martinelli is also generational talent and on average on field performance was relatively consistent except for the numbers. Saka has this triangle with Odegarrd amd White. In many games, visually, Saka wasn't up too scratch. Martinelli has not stable partnership on the left at all. Saka has no pace at all and so are Jesus and Trossard. Martinelli is the only pace we have up top.
Martinelli defends better than Saka these days, let's not forget ...
Not a make or break season for Martinelli until the right partnership is put in place on the left.
Partey into last 12 months so would wall for free unless we'd sell for decent money.
Make or break season for Jesus Tomi, Zinchenko, Kiwior however ....
Martinelli needs to get 15 goals in the PL? Arsenal LEGEND Robert Pires never got more than 14 in a season.
Football has changed, wingers are expected to score more goals now more than ever. Salah,robben, mane etc are the models now. Gabi scored 14/15 2 seasons ago no reason why he can't kick on and up the levels for himself
So when is the make or break season for cone man arteta
lol, no matter how bad his season goes. Arsenal can’t sell him for anything less than 60 million
Big respect to Kevin but Robbie is a disgrace… last year he said our Kevin had been ill for a year when it was only a few months… now he gets the funeral day wrong…
Lucky I got to meet the man and big respect to Lee as he was a true friend ❤️
But Robbie, get your “ simple “ facts right before you play up for the camera 😴
“ I couldn’t go to my friends funeral because a walk “ GIVE ME A BEAK!!!
The negativity is crazy, you should go for a walk too
LEFT SIDE NEEDS FIXING BEFORE MARTINELLI, SAKA GETS THE CONTSISTANT HELP AND QUALITY FROM WHITE AND ODEGAARD, MARTINELLI BASICALLY GETS FUCK ALL, HOPEFULLY CALAFIORI OR TIMBER WILL FIX AND HELP MARTINELLI
I think it is unnecessarily negative to suggest it is make or break for a brilliant young player like Martinelli. He's not a robot and will have his ups and downs as he develops but love and support from the fans will make sure he fulfils his potential. Otherwise, there are a host of clubs that would gladly take him off us...
Far from brilliant, quick and can occasionally finish
@@juniorgunner501 The Brazilian manager recognises his talent. Young players go through a period where they need to adjust their game. How they come out on the other side sets their career.
@@juniorgunner501 I'm sure every top club would take him off us in an instance, if we don 't want him.
@juniorgunner501 There are very few players that can consistently beat 3/4 opponents from the halfway line to the goal line and still retain the ball to make a cross, pass, or shot. And that's often after winning the ball back near our own goal line. His adjustment is to be more tactical to pick and choose the moments he bursts into life, like Saka's done, as it is humanly impossible to play at his level of energy and pace for 90 minutes as he gets older.
Make or break for Martinelli??? NO REASON FOR MAKE OR BREAK. Let Martinelli enjoy his soccer career.
Make or break for arteta , he’s had years now of failure when is he going to win something
Robbie matinelli never had xakai next to him last season with players coming in he will have rice more this year
Martinelli just needs to improve on his dribbling and end product. He needs tobe just as dangerous as Williams and V Jounior.
why is robbie treating this club like a nursery and is always tryna be nice don’t u aim high and try fall anywhere around there, martinelli 12 goals when he scored 15 1 year before pathetic raise the standards.
YOU lot are talking UTTER bull 💩💩💩, it's not a make or break season for martinelli, he is one of our best players, he had a bit of an injury last season, and then for some reason only artetta knows dropped him so he was unable to get his form back, and i can see artetta costing us another title, he has cost us TWO titles this could be the third time
With you on the first few lines then you lost the plot
@@glennicholls1971 i repeat, artetta cost us the league the last TWO seasons, FACT 👍
@rebelrebel7722 what a load of old crap you come out with ,if you belive that man ain't the one you obviously don't go to games and if you do you would not last long with the mob I'm with coming out with utter crap you are coming out with 👊
@@glennicholls1971 lol I'm just telling you how it is, you must be, blind or in denial, artetta has cost us the league these last two seasons by the silly things that he has done, so it's not crap, it's just the TRUTH and if YOU can't see that, then that's YOUR problem, OPEN YOUR EYES 👀👀👀👀👀👀👀
@rebelrebel7722 it's total crap , it's arteta that has got us where we are now and that's challenging for silverware and making us strong and with a young side we are getting better , I tell you about facts , we are heading I'm right direction anyone says other wise is clueless or a hater or just plain and simple ain't got a clue about football, stick to dungeons and dragons, football and the arsenal ain't for you chief 👊
It's obvious that arteta dosen't rate martinelli that highly as a left winger. That's why arsenal was prepared to pay big money for mudryk and why trossard was starting at the end of last season even though martinelli was fit. Imagine trossard starting ahead of saka on the right wing if he played there. No chance
Don't be surprised if arsenal sign a winger who can play both wings and starts ahead of martinelli.
Lets sell him
What are you saying bro ?
what help will Martinelli get this Season, still would like to see wat timber can do down that side or the new cali.. still want to see him play striker
I don't understand all this ..the amount of changes that has been going on the left side of our first eleven has surely affected him ..he have to cope with playing with no left back overlapping and ..havertz or Rice playing deep or the left back playing inverted , basically every time he has the ball ..he got 3 or 2 players against him
Fair play Robbie, your clothes are hanging off you.
People, the title and purpose of the video is to create talking points lol. No need to have a breakdown over it 😂
MAKE OR BREAK FOR EDU AND ARTETA MORE LIKE . NO LEAGUE OR CUPS BOTH THE CLOWNS ARE GONE .....NO STRIKER NO LEAGUE 2 YEARS NOT LEARNED A THING MUPPETS.
Martinelli play ST maybe can breakthrough
Martinelli still got 8 goals and 5 assist last season and they are talking about make or break lol.
He is what 23 years old.
AFTV setting the wrong narrative here.
We will have fans booing him soon
He hasn’t kicked on though, still dribbles with his head down, gets to the byline and smashes crosses into defenders and his final ball is generally awful. Can be a player to come on late, be upgraded on.
Sorry but I had to skipppp the first 18 mins
You guys are crazy are remember when Ronaldo was like this hundred step overs beat his man and no end product and we all know the rest
Martinelli at his best doesn’t even come remotely close to ronaldo at sporting, silly to compare the two he has a more theo walcott trajectory
You could be right. But my point is none of us know it’s to early to be giving verdicts and deadlines
Why do you guys complain about Arteta a lot? I know he hasn’t won anything yet but he is doing way way better. If Arsenal sack Arteta, then it’s step backward for Arsenal. I don’t see a lot of coaches better than Arteta at the moment.
If he doesn’t win the PL this upcoming season and he is sacked, who would you bring in? I’m sure anyone appointed would take Arsenal backwards.
I’m a Man Utd fan by the way
Good assessment, I think only us level headed gunners agree with this statement
What are you talking about buddy ?
We all hope him to break the season in to peaces
Why make or break?
If he doesn't live up to the hype, unfortunately he will be replaced .
If it make r break for martinelli what about vevira
Him too but obviously we care more about starters performing bad than bench players performing bad
More like make or break season for Arteta
Why do you guys complain about Arteta a lot? I know he hasn’t won anything yet but he is doing way way better. If Arsenal sack Arteta, then it’s step backward for Arsenal. I don’t see a lot of coaches better than Arteta at the moment.
If he doesn’t win the PL this upcoming season and he is sacked, who would you bring in? I’m sure anyone appointed would take Arsenal backwards.
I’m a Man Utd fan by the way
Make or break for a man in 4 yrs has cleared the decks n every season progressed us going from 11th when he took over to 2nd on 89 points chasing down the great pep n the unstoppable city and now had top players wanting to sign for us! Yeah if we don’t win the league n finish second again on 90 points then get rid n get Brendon Rodgers in ay 👍🏻🤣clowns like u don’t deserve this team this football n this passion! Go watch arsenal 2017👍🏻
Lol wat are you sniffing! Arteta has got arsenal in the best position the clubs been in from the invincibles. Wise up ffs. You part time fans are a joke to the club. Get behind him or go support spurs.
Ungrateful
I can’t stand the ungrateful silly comments from Arsenal fans nowadays , 2 points separated us from Man City last season it’s not that easy only 1 team can win the league. Arteta has changed Arsenal massively,we can now compete with the best again
Martinelli will be back to his best this season, it's not a make or break. Arsenal paid next to nothing for martinelli so this "pressure" makes no sense from parts of our fanbase.
Id love for him to leave and become a superstar somewhere else so we can buy another 70 million flop from Europe. Gnabry vibes
The pressure doesn’t come from
Price tag , it comes from fighting for a title can’t have passengers while hoping they play well
@@JoshuaGuevara7 martanelli scored the winner against man city and Liverpool last season, he had 2 injuries last season and has competition for that left wing, not to mention he plays with a new left back every week.
He has a big season head of him for sure, but to say it's "make it or break it for martanelli" is just silly.
@@RizwanKhan-fb2qv💯per cent 👍
People convienitly forget that the season before last Martinelli was joint top scorer alongside odegaard with 15 goals jeez some people
@@chrispanteli6626 Short memories
Martinelli should take up athletics 100 metres would be perfect for him , head down run to the line and that’s it. No end product for all his pace , such a waste
16:45 Liverpool to Everton. That's really far
Martinelli was a huge disappointment last season. Hopefully he rediscovered his form
Love the podcast, has anyone got any websites or apps to watch the game tomorrow as it’s on 3pm blackout here. I’ve got a vpn if that helps 😂
Finally no Julian, I can watch this show again.