Greenline 45 & 48 Hybrid Yacht for the Great Loop -- Yes? No? Maybe? Virtual Boat Shopping, ep 33
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- Welcome to V.B.S. Episode 33 -- Virtual Boat Shopping for our dream Great Loop boat. Today we look at a 2022 Greenline 45 Hybrid Fly Motor Yacht (and a Greenline 48 coupe) to see if we want to add it to our Yes! No! or Maybe? list of potential boats to purchase to do the Great American Loop.
We hope to set sail (or rather start our engines) on our Great Loop Adventure in spring 2022. But we still need to find a boat.
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This manufacturer was one of if not the first offering solar/hybrid since at least 2007. And this manufacturer allows you to eliminate a generator because it basically has a built in generator to recharge the batteries off shore while using the diesel motors. Also, you can propel the boat up to 20 NM. You can also run the appliances including the AC with the solar panels. Especially with the coupe, as there are more panels available.
As a MNO boat, you should consider the Oceanclass 68 by Greenline. Same features/hybrid powertrain. Triple the price though. It technically can fit through the Loop.
Good to see you again. Had been a minute and the anticipation is building.
Thanks for your patience with us! Holiday festivities + work + actual boat shopping made it difficult to do any virtual boat shopping LOL
Wow….beautiful boat! But with price that opens your world to a lot of other boat choices! Glad your back and happy New Years to you all!
Happy new year to you too Wendy! This boat would fall in the MNO (money no object) category for sure.
yes the are hybred
Both the 45 and 48 are actually 51 feet LOA. No generator is needed as the diesel engines turn the electric motors which act as generators and charge the batteries. Solar also helps to charge the batteries, all domstic appliances and a/c can be run off the batteries.
You guys keep mentioning " beamy boat" & how you love beamy boats.
Even her bigger sister 48 has a 15'8" beam, subtract 3' for both side walk around...interior salon width would be less than 13'.
That's a very narrow tiny companion way on a boat almost 50'.
Agreed. I only dance for 17' and wider beam LOL
Hybrid drives, both for cars and boats and what ever, is a total no-no! Hybrid drives only provide one with the negatives of both electric and ICE. My advice is to not even consider hybrid drive for anything.
Second to that is the pod-drives. For the same horsepower you will have less performance with pods. Pods have more maneuverability, but adds lots of extra mechanical issues with gears. Pods however does not require rudders, thus that reduces the over-all drag when both the shaft and rudder of the shaft-drive is taken into account. However, pods still has more mechanicals/gears in the drive-line thus more mechanical friction and complexity/maintenance and price. The great advantage of pods is the added maneuverability and no rudders, thus less drag. Therefor, pod-drives, although used widely, has not managed to fully replace the shaft-drives and many manufacturers persist with shaft drives because at the end, for normal yachts, they are still the best way to go....
Great points! We do not want pods for the Loop. Forgot to mention that in the video.
@@TheBoomershines Yes again. Pods not good for the draft.
Please explain no-no hybrid....
So when in diesel mode, the generators make 10 kW each and the main battery bank has a capacity of 80 kWh. You can fill the main battery every 4 hours and then run on it for 3-5 hours depending on speed (up to 25 Nm).
Maxed out, you can have a 10.25 kWh 24V house battery array (recharged via solar). With the inverter this actually powers the AC/fridge/freezer etc. 3 kW is actually a ton of electricity (over 8 hrs of sun it would generate 24 kWh of charge). As the array depletes, the main high voltage battery array (80 kWh) recharges the house array. I believe this would work in reverse if you left your boat at a dock for a week for instance, where the main battery bank could charge via solar if the house systems had very low draw (with 0 W draw it would still take 3-4 sunny days to recharge the main bank).
Going by their brochure, the 45 can be built with three staterooms (one is basically a bunkroom) and has an electric range of 30nm at 5kts. The 48 Fly has a minimum bridge clearance of under 14 feet (NO hardtop for solar)
That is the info we were looking for! Thank you. 30 nautical miles is certainly better than 20 but would still make it difficult to do the loop on just solar.
@@TheBoomershines Especially since you would have no guarantees of sunny days to recharge. Personally, as nice as having the extra floorspace as the Fly versions would give, I'd be inclined to go with the coupe for the lower bridge clearance AND more area for panels.
@@michiganengineer8621 Great point about sunny days!!!
@@TheBoomershines your mileage will be different. Currant,wind, speed . When you start the engines they turn the motors/generators and they can recharge the drive batteries in about 2 hrs while your cruising on Diesel. If you manage your battery charge you might not need a aux. generator. Anyhow make a good choice and have a great experience.
@@4406bbldb Thank you Don!
Not to be a nay sayer, but this boat seems pretty far from the previous boats you guys "VBSed". It'd be great for a couple, but seems really small for your needs. Esthetics and hybrid / solar seem to have swayed Mrs Boomershine off target pretty dramatically. Boat shows will do that to you in a heartbeat. For a $1.5M, I'd think a nice used Fleming 55 would be a much better match. Good luck Mr. Boomershine.
LOL. Mrs Boomershine here. You are right on all points! Way too small for us but fun to dream about having a hybrid boat.
Haha! The 48 is our boat now. I would have said hello if I knew you were aboard.
Wait, that was your boat?!? No WAY! Thank you for letting us look and CONGRATULATIONS on your fabulous new boat! Are you going to do the loop in it?
@@TheBoomershines Thank you! We are excited to start cruising her. We are so excited to have no need for a generator while anchored. yes, we will be doing the loop someday. This year, we will focus on southwest Florida and the Keys. Next winter we will likely spend the winter in the Bahamas.
@@allanstraughan1393 We hope to be in the Bahamas next winter as well. Hopefully our paths will cross again then. We know what your boat looks like LOL. What did you name her?
@@TheBoomershines her new name will be No Agenda. Our last boat was Reel Agenda (obviously a fishing boat), so we maintained the naming theme but shifted to retired life.
@@allanstraughan1393 Love it! We will be on the look out :)
You can easily get a full displacement boat that will burn around 1 gallon per hour at 6-7 knots. Full displacement will be safers in bad weather and more comfortable is rougher conditions. When you get down to it, there isn't enough sq' on at boat for the solar to do much more than charge the started batteries and power lighting and a few systems. The simpler the design, the more reliable and easier to maintain it will be.
great points!
They do make 12volt TVs but you gotta have 12 volt plugs. Solar isn’t what it’s cracked up to be. It helps but unless you have a ton of panels I wouldn’t trust just solar as a power plant
Interesting about the 12 v TV. Fingers crossed solar continues to evolve so that it is a more viable option soon.
20 approx on hybrid batteries.without diesels running. I’m wondering if you have this figured out. So many people just don’t know how cool this is.
Do you have a summary/ compilation page of all of your accumulated ratings for the various boat models you've reviewed/ considered?
No but that is a great idea! Thanks for the suggestion
Greenline are great but you ave look at a 51 foot hatch, it can’t be as spacefoul as a 56 or 58. If you chose all electric propulsion it 20nm but just add generator whit two diesel thank and it 800nm and you could chose to have more solar panel. Whit the hybrid everything while run on your liIon and depending on your thanks endless nm.
I think I get what you are saying. I'll go look for a 51 foot hatch now. Thanks for watching!
@@TheBoomershines sorry for my bad english
@@lucglaude9833 No need to apologize! :)
What is the cruising speed. Thanks for the info.
@@rightright6582 max speed is 28 knotts I think
Have you compared the Greenline to the Delphia and Northman?
Sorry we missed you at FLIBS - I went through these boats there - I just was not impressed with the boats - the smaller one was way small, the larger one's layout was odd to me - for the use of space, small galley, etc.. and it had a feel that is hard to describe - kind of ikea like. And while the boat was somewhat beamy 15-8, the gallley/dining/lower helm felt really narrow, These, of ocurse are only my opinions.
Glad to know we aren't the only ones that think these boats are a bit tight. LOVE what they are doing with solar thought. This will be a great company to watch over the years. And sorry we missed you at FLIBS too. We were only there for a hot second.
Solar is no way near there yet with out batteries to back it up
Agreed. But hopefully one day!
Watching so many of your videos, I must say, your desire to be so far under the draft recruitment could be an ‘uncomfortable’ choice. The less you are down in the water, the more unstable and worse the ride. The Nordhavn that you looked at gets you just under the limit and is heavier, making for a much better ride. Love the videos.
Great point! It is definitely a trade-off to consider.
Thanks so much for watching!
I had a 2019 Greenline 40. It was a beautiful boat but never worked consistently. We sold it 11 months after buying. I hope things improve for the brand. Their boats are gorgeous but the reliability is not. Message me for more specifics.
Which systems or aspects didn't work consistently?
Go for 61' Hatteras located in Annapolis
HI William! I couldn't find the 61" in Annapolis, but I did look at a few others on YachtWorld. The livability of those boats is INCREDIBLE!!! Unfortunately, I do not think we can get anything over 60' insured but if we could, those would be great options.
I know someone that has a Greenline and had had a ton of problems with her. I’d avoid this brand at all costs!
That is sad to hear. But thank you for letting us know.
@@TheBoomershines it’s the only negative I know about them. Might have a lot to do with how it was maintained on the aftermarket side of things.
NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So how do you really feel? LOL. There are definitely better boats out there for what we are looking to do. But it sure is pretty :)
@@TheBoomershines Yeh, if looks was practical you could have been on the loop already - The lines aren't bad at all.....
@@pauldbeer so true!
When speaking much easier than doing.
Way to small for your tribe.
Sadly, we agree :(