Novation Circuit: Polyrhythm Tutorial by Ken Shorley
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ส.ค. 2024
- A tutorial which demonstrates a simple method for calculating polyrhythmic / polymetric pattern changes in a live performance context on Circuit - the lovely little groovebox from Novation. Hope you enjoy!
(Note: If you own Circuit, you'll need to upgrade to firmware version 1.4 in order to play with this feature!) #novation #novationmusic #novationcircuit #rhythm
This is the box that keeps on giving. I haven't loved an instrument so much since I bought my first guitar 30 years ago.
theTerribleFamiliar Hear hear! Circuit absolutely rocks...
I absolutely love my circuit as well. Everything about it, the feel, the colors, the sounds and the speed at which you can create something that sounds great. It’s one of my favorite pieces of gear
Wow..you are the Bob Ross of rhythm! Thank you so much for posting this.
Ha! "That's nice. Happy little beats..."
I want a neighbour like this guy
Isn’t he amazing! I’ve just discovered his channel! Impressive! 🥳
Me too
Haha, awesome that you are branching out into electronics! Another very well spoken and great video!
Thanks Mr Lynch! Hope all is well in your realm...
Great video, very soothing voice and teaching style
Thanks for the kind words! Glad you enjoyed the video...
Brilliant. You've given me ideas.
That's awesome! I love ideas!
Ken not only did this make me want to buy a Circuit but you've gained a new subscriber in the process. Looking forward to view your archive and any new Circuit content!
Glad you found the video useful! Thanks for the subscribe too! And yes, I definitely recommend the Circuit if you've been thinking about it! peace...
Thx for the video! Greetz from Germany! 🇩🇪🔊
Thanks for the kind words!
@@kenshorley You're very welcome! I've done a lot of Dawless stuff 2 on Novation Circuit Tracks and Rhythm. If you feel like, I would be glad if you risk a look at my channel, too. Beats and greetz from Germany! 🇩🇪🎧😉
Excellent video Ken, really well done and super informative.
Thanks so much for your kind words! cheers, Ken
Great video Ken. Thanks for sharing!
Glad you found it useful. Thanks for the comment!
Love it I have one of these!!!
That's some mathematics techno-magic stuff here.
Thanks for watching!
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I may be a bit late to the party, but thanks for this. Really, really useful trick.
Hi Rod. Glad you found the video useful!
Ken you are amazing. Thanks for sharing this. The band Talking Heads got me into polyrhythms. You have a real talent with rhythm and a real talent with the Circuit. The Circuit was the best 250 I ever spent. I now have a Korg Monologue too and it is a perfect partner.
Glad you enjoyed the video! I agree, the Circuit is an amazing piece of gear!
I love how you broke that down. Thank you!
Thanks for your comment. Glad you enjoyed the video!
Finally we can play Apocalypse in 9/8 on the circuit 🙏😁👌
9️⃣👍🏽
I got an Akai MPC live to play some self made Brazilian grooves! It's so much fun! Thank you for the video, got a thumbs up and a new sub. Let's groove!
Thanks, Marco!
very instructive, thanks
Glad you found it useful!
This is super helpful. Anyone else notice that if you change pattern length on a single part in a multi-measure spanned pattern that it's a bit troublesome to correct unless you stop the clock. If you're planning to play with the length of drum pattern on the fly it's a good idea to not do it while the pattern is spanned over measures... especially for one or 2 beat glitch lengths at high BPM settings.
Maybe 1.5 will add in a True Step key combo... like Shift and Length... (or Clear and Length)... to reset all or selected patterns back into time. The Groovesizer with Golf firmware does a decent job resetting to true step. It also lets you do per step flams with different spacing and fade out on each drum channel... Of course the trade off is you need outboard MIDI drum machine so you lose the thing that makes a Circuit the best thing ever PORTABILITY.
I think you a genius, just thank you, honor!
Thanks for your kind words! peace from Canada...
OMG so simple so good
A perfect explanation and a new subscriber here :)
Thanks for the kind words, and the subscribe! cheers from Canada...
mesmerizing !!
Hey...i know of you. I am also a world percussionist. Been eyeing the Circuit for years . Just wish you could have diff lanes of length on seperate tracks going at the same time. Thanks for the video.
Hi Dani... thanks for your comment. The Circuit *can* in fact have different pattern lengths at the same time. Drum 1 and 2 are paired, though, so they will have the same length. Similarly Drum 3 and 4 are paired. But you can create grooves with four different loop lengths - Synth 1, Synth 2, Drum 1/2, and Drum 3/4...
I'd love to see you jam to the groovebox with an acoustic percussion!
Ok! I’ll see what I can come up with...
woah so helpfull thank you.
Thanks! Glad you found the video useful... and thanks for the subscribe! cheers from Canada!
Got me interested
Great video, maybe those challenged with this could use a rhythm time chart to see visually the math involved.
Hi Jason, Thanks for your comment. Yes I like the idea of a rhythm time chart... I think of it as two ways of looking at the same calculation: 5 x 16 = 16 x 5 (for example), or 3 x 16 = 16 x 3.
hi ken, as someone being interested in and working in so called odd meters i was glad to find your vid to see if the novation circuit can do more interesting time signatures than the boring old western 4/4. having said that i wonder why one should switch between 4/4 and odd numbers respectively keeping to count in 4/4 instead of simply learning to do it the don ellis/indian way and counting in 3 and 2s... i know that the pattern of the nc somehow dictates the damn old 16 scheme like unfortunately most of the sequencers out there and that there are ways to circumnavigate this horrible and counter-innovative fact, still i think the gear should adapt to the needs and creativity and not - at least not always - vice versa... also it would help people to realize that there is nothing "complicated" in a 9/8 or 7/4 etc and that these are highly danceable and groovy rhythms in large parts of the world. even for kids. last but not least imho it is a mistake to use the terms "polyrhythms", "polymeters" and "odd time signatures" interchangeably as they are clearly different things. nothing "poly" about a 5/4 or am i mistaken? hope you dont feel criticised or - even worse - patronized but as the whole topic of odd meters in electronic music is close to my heart and of concern to me, i couldnt refrain from commenting on it. kind regards from berlin!
Hi, thanks for your thoughts. I share your enthusiasm for non-parallel metres (there's another term for you!) but I have to say, I don't think there's anything "horrible" about 4/4. Every musical culture embraces duple rhythms and duple metres. My musical background includes the study of South Indian drumming, which to me is the most complete system of rhythmic wisdom on this planet, but patterns and "grooves" in chatushra nadai (those based around 2's 4's and 8's) are still very common... as well as nearly every number imaginable! In the context of this video, I still think the term "polymetric" is appropriate, since the demo I play uses a looping synth track in 4/4 and a variable drum track which is heard in different metres - when both are heard simultaneously, a polymetric musical pattern results. The great thing about the @wearenovation Circuit is the variable Length feature. It's easy to set the sequencer to any repeating loop, between 1 and 16 pulses. And it's also possible to chain together different patterns, each in a different metre, or to have each instrument grooving to its own loop length, so the possibilites for groovy, non 4/4-based tracks are endless! I look forward to hearing some of your music. Thanks again for taking the time to comment! cheers from Canada.
@@kenshorley hi ken, thank you! for taking time to answer/comment on my emotional comment ;-) i exaggerated of course.. i do love a lot of arabic beats and hip hop and rock etc as well that is just fine in 4/4. i think the "horrible" was more meant to be my experience with sequencers and machines where often it appears so streamlined and the irregular is forgotten. but instead of moaning and cursing it would be better to do something about or be happy about those things and engineers that actually do take into consideration that there is a whole musical world and language beyond the 4/4. for example my old mpc 60 was just fine with it and actually it was through this machine that i discovered my love for 5/4 when i "accidentally" looped a bit of a record into a 5er and found it to be more groovy than my previous poor attempts ;-) anyway thanks again and kind regards to you 'over there' in canada. keep on spreading the word.
@@kenshorley oh and of course here is some of my music though this is pretty conventional, more electronic songwriter/folk style and it is also with german lyrics.. but the beats and grooves are all inspired by don ellis 'the new rhythms'book/record in odd meters ranging from 5/4, 7/8 to 9/8, and 19/4 (guess which track is that ;-)) irgend.bandcamp.com/album/wundenland-in-ellis
My mind is blown... counting 4 groups of 3x16 or 5x16 os so much easier than trying to count 4/4 WHILE playing 3,5,6,7,9 etc. Though I have 3 over 4 more or less internalised, your technique can help with other groupings. One problem though is: you're getting back into pulse but at semi-random beat. For example 4 x 3x16 = land on 4th beat in sync. But I guess when you land you just whait till another 1. (Edit: its for 4 groups of Z !)
But if we do 4 x 4 x Z x 16 we "transpose" the offset into the bars: for example with 3 its 3 bars to get back in sync. It makes sense, but there's still problem to know where you are in the phrase/form (say 4 or 8 or 16 bar phrase). Any help with goibg out but still understanding where you are?
mic indir : thanks for your comments... maybe I'm not understanding your example, but I'm pretty sure that counting cross rhythms in groups of 16 (as shown in this video) will always work out evenly, and you will return to the pattern on beat 1 of the measure - assuming the track is in 4/4. (Z x 4 x 4)
Ken Shorley
1234 5123 4512 3451 1
2345 1234 5123 4512 2
3451 2345 1234 5123 3
4512 3451 2345 1234 4
5123 4512 3451 2345 5
Sync
1234 5671 2345 6712 1
3456 7123 4567 1234 2
5671 2345 6712 3456 3
7123 4567 1234 5671 4
2345 6712 3456 7123 5
4567 1234 5671 2345 6
6712 3456 7123 4567 7
Sync
I spot the 1234 group on the first beat, and it happens on bar 6 if its 5*16 and bar 8 if 7*16. So it syncs not on the start of the phrase
This "notation" is similar to ben levin's (channel).
ver kool
This is a bit off-topic but it is Novation circuit-related so hopefully somebody may know the answer. How do I get the LFO on say, System Bass (28 in og patch set) to go in triplets so I can get that Dubsteppy "Wub-Wub-Wub" vibe? No matter how precise I am with the macro knob, I only seem to be able to get "wub-wub" or "wub-wub-wub-wub" (i.e. even numbers of wubs on the beat). I've tried setting all synths to 12 (as opposed to 16 steps) but this has no effect on the LFO syncing. Any ideas?
see reason I couldn't use 2 or more of these hooked up together running with different sequence lengths/tempos on each?
noice
Thoinks!
@@kenshorley woilcome!
if you stay silent while doing the poly right its better. other way we just listen a wrong beat
Somehow I had a feeling he was going to be from Canada
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Live long and Circuit.
I think this is actually a polymeter you're doing, not a polyrhythm.
Yes that's one way of looking at it. I do say "polyrhythmic or polymetric" in the video and description. But I guess it's just 6 of one, 3 against 2 of the other! ; )