Ben 10 Alien Force Season 2 Episode 12 & 13 Group Reaction

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  • @donovan802
    @donovan802 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +350

    It’s still pretty wild how Cannonbolt in both the classic series and Alien Force is the first alien added to the roster of 10 in Ben’s base arsenals.

    • @painvillegaming4119
      @painvillegaming4119 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      he is one of ben favotires

    • @TyRendition
      @TyRendition 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      an iconic alien.

    • @pedrocosta3021
      @pedrocosta3021 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      He is my second favorite (only after Rath)

    • @orbboom6119
      @orbboom6119 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Cannonbolt is goated🔥

    • @redbool1115
      @redbool1115 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Wasn’t it upchuck that got added back here first?

  • @Ardeline
    @Ardeline 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +212

    What the Finale wanted to do was show what the Omnitrix has always been for (universal peace, so much so that the watch's own symbol, which is the same as that of the Plumbers, is the symbol of Universal Peace),
    and the Omnitrix has always been programmed so that you could transform into several different types of species and feel what their customs and powers are like firsthand.
    The Omnitrix then managed to cure a race that was facing extinction due to their "pure" form of repr0duction (basically they were committing Inc3st) and mixed their DNA so that their race could continue to live.

  • @jamesmitchell1397
    @jamesmitchell1397 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +508

    If they get to omniverse I can't wait for Atomix to show for real and them just being like:
    "IT'S FUCKING WAY BIG LET'S GO!!!"

    • @painvillegaming4119
      @painvillegaming4119 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +51

      am all behind this meme

    • @lordtoomas
      @lordtoomas 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      that would be awesome

    • @TalchoTPZF2
      @TalchoTPZF2 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

      You know what, I can't wait.

    • @luciuseclipse
      @luciuseclipse 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      If they don't bring it back around then it'll be the biggest miss.

    • @capsey_
      @capsey_ 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      The biggest fear is that they will forget about the atomix meme because it's quite far away

  • @xmant8842
    @xmant8842 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +325

    You guys need to realize, just because he has over a million aliens doesn't mean he knows what those million are or what they can do. He's sticking to what he knows will work Edit: because people keep bringing up the data dump function, not knowing that I already made comments under here addressing it, I'll add it here. he knows how they work *after* transforming into them. Imagine if he transformed into
    Spoilers
    The worst or walkatrout. Or even something like molestache. Finding a useful alien would be wasting time when he knows that the aliens he's already familiar with *can* work. Ultimately, it's smarter for him not to risk getting a useless random alien

    • @krazytreRTM
      @krazytreRTM 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Except the ones that he "knew worked" didn't always work for the situation.

    • @BySpartan
      @BySpartan 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +44

      Also they need to know that ITS LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO CREATE SO MANY ALIENS FOR THE SHOW. JEEZ ITS LIKE TALKING TO 7 YEAR OLD KIDS

    • @krazytreRTM
      @krazytreRTM 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

      @@BySpartan I think you guys are confused. They're not wanting them to show a million aliens, lol. They're wanting them to show a few new ones.
      It's not hard to comprehend.

    • @TyRendition
      @TyRendition 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      yea which is why azmuth said the aliens are in categories of 10 for simplistic cases. It also why future iterations have a problem with ben being so much more powerful due to having way more aliens at hand that they have to put him in situation where he is restricted by either mistransformation or omnitrix is restricted

    • @BySpartan
      @BySpartan 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@krazytreRTM and they're gonna get new ones but not in 1 episode

  • @theomnigamer9177
    @theomnigamer9177 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +107

    When they fail to realize that the Highbreed would still have destroyed countless alien civilizations even if the highest in chain of command is gone. Like just because the supreme council would unalive themselves, doesn’t mean they the ships and grunts would stop. Loyal to the end is what they believe in. Ben isn’t the person who saved the day, it was Reiny. Reiny stopped the countless Highbreed ships from all across the galaxy from destroying dozens of civilians. And that is what makes this Season Finale special. It isn’t Ben that solves the problem in the end. Sure he contributes. But it was his willingness to walk among other species was and his nature as a person. His previous actions brought upon this peace with the enemy.

    • @namesdontmattergaming2756
      @namesdontmattergaming2756 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

      The guys kinda annoy me when they miss big stuff like this

    • @Vonmoonlight
      @Vonmoonlight 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      And amongst all the Highbreed
      He is the most pure one left and him being nobility and saying that while being partially impure has alot of credibility

    • @Rodyx9
      @Rodyx9 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I doubt Reiny would have been able to do the same thing without Ben there. I think the reason it happened is soley for Ben and is later on recognized as the hero of the universe so everyone sees him as the savior.

    • @namesdontmattergaming2756
      @namesdontmattergaming2756 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@Rodyx9 He wouldn’t have, but he was the closest to pure blooded and they were distraught by Ben not to focus on a lower level royal talking to them

    • @Rodyx9
      @Rodyx9 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@namesdontmattergaming2756 yeah

  • @paaritoshkarmakar2119
    @paaritoshkarmakar2119 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +73

    Ben: *turns into Waybig*
    Me: Don't say it! Don't say it!
    Them: ATOMIX!!!
    ME: F**k!!!

    • @furi___99
      @furi___99 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      😂😂😂,

    • @furi___99
      @furi___99 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      i be like , here we go

    • @venom_spy437
      @venom_spy437 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      They seem to call WayBig "Atomix" just to piss us all off. Not gonna lie, I expected them to be shock, like "HIS NAME IS WAYBIG?! DAMN IT! We called him Atomix this entire time" and now I am disappointed.

    • @umapessoa240
      @umapessoa240 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      ⁠@@venom_spy437 nah, they knew already, they just like messing with fans

    • @claus_al_aerth
      @claus_al_aerth 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      They even called it Way Big, they're just joking. I'm just hoping they call Atomix "Way Big" when it finally appears.

  • @firerath
    @firerath 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +44

    It’s funny how Ben absolutely hated Connonbolt when he first got him, but he became one of his go to aliens for just how good it was.

  • @flingkong24
    @flingkong24 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +49

    "He could've turned into Graymatter!"
    You're blind if you can't clearly see that not even Azmuth can reach the control pannel. If Azmuth can't reach it than how can Graymatter

    • @dragonsvideos6737
      @dragonsvideos6737 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Especially when you realize that Azmuth used his own DNA for the gray matter sample

  • @BryanTheDM
    @BryanTheDM 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +79

    "THEY SHOULD'VE DESTROYED THE BASE THE FIRST TIME THEY WERE HERE!"
    *actively watching the group needing to recruit several extremely powerful individuals to just get CLOSE to the jumpgate and still be unable to damage it*

    • @kodykoolrocks
      @kodykoolrocks 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      and they were getting jumped badly that episode where they saved the blonde kid(forgot his name)

    • @vykuntapufangtxpreet9546
      @vykuntapufangtxpreet9546 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      They Are *SORTA* *STUPID*

    • @dragonsvideos6737
      @dragonsvideos6737 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@kodykoolrockshis name was cooper and yeah they did run away. They need to get away from them and they destroyed their cloaking device and needed to escape cuz they were outnumbered and had to find other people to help me.

  • @DepthCharge
    @DepthCharge 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +78

    14:09 We've waited a long while for them to give a shocking reaction when finding out "Atomix" is actually Way Big via the subtitles and somehow they meme'd Way Big instead lol maaaan show the big guy some love :')

    • @zainebamfo2077
      @zainebamfo2077 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      When Atomix actually shows these guys finna be gassed😭😭😭

  • @BoYo275
    @BoYo275 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +65

    To answer a few of your questions during the episode:
    1. Grandpa Max & his team showed up AFTER Ben & the others tried to take down portal gate, that's why they didn't just use it earlier since Max wasn't even around to see that they tried, or to even think that just destroying it was Ben's plan at all.
    2. Julie standing on top of Ship as unrealistic or believable as it may seem is simply because Ben said everyone was supposed to have each other's back, so if she fell someone was supposed to be there to have her back, AND more likely it was just done because as we've seen in a previous episode Ship & Julie wound be willing to risk their lives for each other, do trust each other 100%.
    3. Rynie (The Highbreed that Ben befriended) tried to tell Ben way back on when they were stuck together how he wasn't JUST any old leader Highbreed like the gang usually fought, but one of the purest & highest of high royalty within the Highbreed race. With royalty even irl usually having their opinions being held much higher then others or the same kingdom, race, tribe, ect., and being considered natural born leaders with good judgment calling skills.
    I think a big part of you guy questioning so many writing choices with the characters & how things are handled kinda come from the fact that you all either overthink things in a fictional world, with it's own rules & norms, AND most of all, most of you just not growing up watching cartoons from around the era that this came out or the era before it. Or thinking like how a writer's probably did like what SeeOhKnee pointed out at 32:50.

    • @Rodyx9
      @Rodyx9 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      1. Yes
      2. I don't really think the point is someone will catch her. That seems quite outlandish to me, I think the fact that the ship is made from the goo her feet are literally glued to it and she cannot fall off. It is impossible to stand like that on an object that moves that fast so the only logical explanation is that the upgrade goo is sticking to her feet.
      3. Yes
      4. Yeah I think the finale was excellent. Their main problem seems to be that they didn't use enough aliens which is not really a great complaint in my opinion. Everything makes sense in my head and I think it's executed wonderfully.

    • @abhinandannandan3863
      @abhinandannandan3863 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Well Put

  • @luciuseclipse
    @luciuseclipse 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    The only thing Gray Matter has on brainstorm is higher intelligence. Also that intelligence is more technological intelligence, where as Brainstorm is actually particularly good at physics and strategic thinking. Gray matter comes with major drawbacks as well, since he's smaller and more frail, Brainstorm is more battle ready and have powers beyond just being smart.

  • @Taidower
    @Taidower 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

    The Post-Galaxy Nut Clarity kicked in for the Highbreed Supreme. 😂

  • @HermitManDude
    @HermitManDude 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    *High Council about to unalive the their whole race*
    Rynue "Wait BenBen Tennyson is chill we all cool now"
    High Council " Shit he has a point"

  • @HygorBH
    @HygorBH 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +54

    The producers also stated Ben transformed into Wildmutt off-screen. AND, all of the aliens Ben transformed during this episode - Cannonbolt, Way Big, and Upchuck, are now available for him to transform again since they've been unlocked after he transformed into them.

    • @sparkagua
      @sparkagua 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      They also could’ve said he lost his virginity to Julie mid battle off screen. Doesn’t make it true, especially knowing how much the Ben 10 team had flip flopped on shit they say

    • @Andrew-Bastin
      @Andrew-Bastin 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      There really weren’t any opportunities for Ben to do an off screen transformation, that explanation is just something the writers made up on the spot as a justification as to why Ben has certain transformations available next season despite the ending of this season stating that he reset to a new set of 10.

    • @theamazingspooderman2697
      @theamazingspooderman2697 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​@@sparkagua💀

    • @yellow_flash813
      @yellow_flash813 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@sparkagua damn 🤣🤣

  • @lucasfurtado2224
    @lucasfurtado2224 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +130

    I think the reason why Ben is usually limited to 10 forms is because it's a manageable amount of choice for quick decisions.
    According to research, the ideal amount of choice is something between 9 and 15 alternatives. Too few and you are constricted, but too many and you are overwhelmed.
    That is because the average human can only hold about 7 options in their head at a time. You can divide the options into groups, pick the winner in each group, then make a group with the winners and pick from it, etc, but the more choices you have the more operations you need to perform to make a choice like that.
    That's why people spend more time trying to find something to watch on Netflix than actually watching something on Netflix lol

    • @alansmithee419
      @alansmithee419 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It's also why I don't spend any time looking for something to watch.
      I hear about something I watch it. I don't open a streaming service and look for something, because I'm probably not gonna find anything...

    • @patrickzantomaster
      @patrickzantomaster 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Only problem is that Ben has better options for the situation at hand and we have a future version of him who can juggle 10.000. This isn’t about quick switching in the heat of battle. This is picking an option which is most optimal and then stay until nothing works.

    • @Nancydrew301
      @Nancydrew301 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@patrickzantomaster Except that ben has had many many years to learn about the Omnitrix whereas this been barely has many many seconds to choose aliens he's never seen, met, or figured out. Plus haven't these youtubers stated how OP this group of aliens ben has are? He's doing what he can with what he knows. Tbh, Ben needed more time to get to know his aliens before this battle took place. Stupid Azmuth, which is probably something he doesn't hear much. I guess he could have gone with an Alien he might have seen his older self use.

  • @nabinoorshahil2715
    @nabinoorshahil2715 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

    Riney did say he was from a influential royal Hybrid family during his episode. It was when he was saying his name and started monologuing about how influential his family is. He is not a peasant. More like a prince. Still silly though.

  • @sanfransiscon
    @sanfransiscon 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    I like the idea that the highbreed council deferred to Rynie because he was the most genetically "pure" now, and by their own values that makes them an inferior race that has to listen to him.

  • @thebloodline8683
    @thebloodline8683 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +196

    Get yourself ready for Ben's character in season 3 cause... it's a lot to take in

    • @hoopa6477
      @hoopa6477 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +48

      *grumbles angrily*

    • @theguy10n1
      @theguy10n1 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

      Oh no you mean THAT Ben thing dont you

    • @orbboom6119
      @orbboom6119 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      Maybe they'll like that Ben lol

    • @thebloodline8683
      @thebloodline8683 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      @@orbboom6119 maybe I'm thinking of a different channel because I could've sworn that they hated season 4 classic Ben and that's S3 AF Ben cranked up to 110%

    • @Broken_Everlark7
      @Broken_Everlark7 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@theguy10n1wait which thing?

  • @DW9427
    @DW9427 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

    I've never seen anyone laugh so hard over Alien Force, let alone the S2 finale 😂

  • @BeyondBlue22
    @BeyondBlue22 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Rhiney isn't just a dude who came in, said Ben was cool, and was made President. First, he has a noble lineage. But more importantly, he clearly already has experience having his DNA blended with "lesser beings." He's already gone through the soul-searching journey of self-discovery that literally every other Highbreed now needs to contend with. He's automatically like, a spiritual guru to his people. He can help them navigate this new life of "impurity." He can help them break down their old notions of genetic superiority and find new reasons to live, now that they have a second chance at life. Why WOULDN'T he be their new leader? If the entire human race suddenly got stricken with depression all at once, everyone would look to someone who was already suicidal at one point and learned how to love life again. We always stand on the shoulders of giants, we always learn from the struggles of the past so we can more efficiently navigate similar struggles in the future. The Highbreed are no different. This is new territory, and their leader should be someone who already knows how to handle it.

    • @claus_al_aerth
      @claus_al_aerth 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Don't bother trying to explain, these guys talk over each other and miss a lot of details, even the ones they did hear just end up forgotten.

  • @chchespirito7202
    @chchespirito7202 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    In this second part (and the first), Ben unlocked the Master Control. And this allows him to transform into any alien just by thinking or shouting the name.

    • @theamazingspooderman2697
      @theamazingspooderman2697 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      crazy how 10yr old Ben figured that out without Azmuth but teen Ben couldn't and he even had Azmuth

  • @nabinoorshahil2715
    @nabinoorshahil2715 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    This is a major life or death battle. He can't risk turning into something he does not know how to use. Which is why he is sticking to the ones he has mastered.

    • @donttouchmeimsterile2351
      @donttouchmeimsterile2351 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      exactly. a child could grasp this context without it being said but three grown men cant? humiliating.

  • @shadowrkz2525
    @shadowrkz2525 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    The fact Paradox knows everything from beginning to the end and mostly has to stay quiet is kinda funny. Also don't worry the real fight is about to come.

  • @crawmon7497
    @crawmon7497 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    I swear if when they meet Atomix they call Him Way Big.

  • @justacrybaby4298
    @justacrybaby4298 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +47

    8:20 “I don't know if Gwen can be the death machine” He says while she is a race of alien who can suck the life energy out of you to fuel her own power. If that isn't death to you I don't know what is.

  • @yujirohanma7470
    @yujirohanma7470 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Him using any other aliens except the ones he knows how to use would have been a bad idea. He can’t afford to use someone who he doesn’t know their strengths or weaknesses in literally the final battle of the universe

    • @sebastiansuazo2734
      @sebastiansuazo2734 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      From alien force onward the Omnitrix gives Ben subconscious info about the alien he transforms into

    • @noorandraahimsa7562
      @noorandraahimsa7562 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      ​@@sebastiansuazo2734yeah but he would need to transform into them first. So it would be stupid for him to just try and turn into random aliens in the middle of a war

    • @aquelgamermexicano
      @aquelgamermexicano 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think the problem there was that when you say "You have access to all the aliens possible", you're kind of hyping the possibilities, only to then being given the awesome and useful features, but barely anything "new" which CAN be a downer depending on what exactly were you excited about it. Like it makes sense he would use what he knows, and i actually agree with you, but i get where they came from with that let down and to not see anything really "New".

  • @abaddonarts1129
    @abaddonarts1129 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    Ben has a million aliens to choose from... But if you think about it he only knows like 24 from this show and the last. A few more if you include any that he's fought against! Would've been neat if we saw him turn into a Vilgax or something, seeing how strong that species is.

    • @dragonsvideos6737
      @dragonsvideos6737 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yea he can’t turn into what he doesn’t know

  • @jthecryptid
    @jthecryptid 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    They don't mention this until much later, but everytime Paradox uses his abilities, the fabric of reality around him becomes a little bit thinner. Los Soledad's laboratory is paper-thin due to the time machine accident and the time monster emerging. If it collapses, the affected area will turn into a singularly similar to the one Paradox was pulled into. His only big weakness besides his ethical standing on not abusing godlike power

  • @tennoyamamoto1800
    @tennoyamamoto1800 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Ben : oh man I don't recognize any of these
    *next episode has only ONE new guy

    • @mayotango1317
      @mayotango1317 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Only one? Let me tell you something...

  • @Khadharphak
    @Khadharphak 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    I've never watched a group so massively misread the entire finale so badly that they actually gaslit themselves into believing the show was wrong before

    • @donttouchmeimsterile2351
      @donttouchmeimsterile2351 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      did u really expect a reaction channel to have intelligent thoughts and actually understand a show they watch for money lmao? reaction channels just watch wtv people want them to watch so they can rake in the numbers and $$$, they don't actually take in any info about the show or what happens in it which is why u see them constantly forget things that happened like 2 eps ago. they dont actually care about the shows lol

  • @exknight39
    @exknight39 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    This hands down has got to be one of Ben 10's best finale among the OG's season 1 and 2. We get return of afew of our old aliens, Max and the Plumber Kids are back on Earth, Ben showing his leadership skills at its peak, and Ben singlehandedly fixing an entire alien civilization's problem. Can't wait for their reaction to next season's premiere (yeah, it has its problems, but a few great things happened)

  • @luciuseclipse
    @luciuseclipse 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    I get wanting to see new aliens, but that'd be the worse idea for ben to start experiment with new ones in the middle of all this. He could transform into new ones, but he'd have no idea what they are capable of or vulnerable to. It's be so much more risky than working with what he already knows, and learning about the other in a less intense situation. I would agree that I wish we could have seen some classic ones at the least.

  • @namesdontmattergaming2756
    @namesdontmattergaming2756 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    Damn imagine calling the best season of Alien Force mid….I can only imagine their thoughts on season 3. Also Ben cant just use any new aliens, cause he wouldnt know how to use them, also Reiny was like a duke of highbreeds so it makes sense why he could just walk in and become leader. It’s like they forgot all the setup throughout this season

    • @FranBattery95
      @FranBattery95 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Most of the reason WHY they think is mid is because they don't pay attention and forget details
      Like....the while Atomix thing is STILL a thing, even when they have the subtitles noting the name WAY BIG SCREAMED OUT LOUD

  • @smugsneasel
    @smugsneasel 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    While I am a bit sad at them missing the point of a few things, I do think the resolution shouldn't have been that quick. I think it should've been the same, but not that quick. Also their reactions to it are beyond hilarious.

  • @XanafiedcatGaming
    @XanafiedcatGaming 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Season 3 is not the best but it is worth getting through. Ultimate Alien will meet your expectations and take things to the next level.

  • @oneautumnleaf2622
    @oneautumnleaf2622 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Tbh it kinda did make sense about the ended, Reiny was a highbreed that was the first fused with other alien DNA and changed because he realized purity isnt whats important, staying alive is, and the high council understood this fact too after ben forcefully changed them, they only started this war because they were scared of death, and electing the first highbreed that supported Ben kinda makes sense to me personally. As he was the first to do away with his purity bias.

  • @alexanderwiles2003
    @alexanderwiles2003 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    i love how they act like being able to have kids again and no longer believing your people will die soon wouldn't be a game changer. like they were legit gonna die out and were gonna take the universe with them and now they wont die out so they arent going through with it

  • @Maswartz226
    @Maswartz226 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I think Ben didn't use any new aliens with the voice control because he wouldn't know their name yet to do so.

  • @Mysticmiggy
    @Mysticmiggy 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    20:04 The moment where Gwen snaps one of my favorite moments of gwen

  • @red20753
    @red20753 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I still remember when those episodes came out, man. Cannonbolt was my favorite alien as a child (and still one of my favorites nowadays) so i suppose you could imagine how hyped i got when i saw him again

  • @frostbyte4422
    @frostbyte4422 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I like how they had both the smartest aliens next to each other seeing who smarter. It’s obvious the galvins.

  • @luciuseclipse
    @luciuseclipse 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Some of the issues that come with alien force is the writers strike in 2007-2008, consider that was going on alien force turned out fairly good. Definitely could have been improved in some ways, but that's what happens when studios refuse to treat writers well and force them to strike for better working conditions.

    • @mayotango1317
      @mayotango1317 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I think the next season shows the consequences of the strike. The first two seasons of Alien Force were planned at the same time as the fourth season of the original series.

    • @luciuseclipse
      @luciuseclipse 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mayotango1317 Right, the next seasons shows it a bit more, but I feel like it certainly started showing problems in this season too.

  • @Curiousfactshub638
    @Curiousfactshub638 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I can't wait to get to Omniverse and untimate alien

  • @xcmet
    @xcmet 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    5:14 and 6:51 Heres a thought. After Azmuth unlocked the master control of the omnitrix, couldn;t Ben have asked Azmuth which of the aliens in the watch were among the Top 10 most Stongest or most powerful aside from Alien X. Ben could have then used 10 of the strongest Aliens in his watch for this dangerous mission.
    Afterall, Azmuth created the watch and collected every sample of aliens inserted, so its logical that he would know or have some knowledge of which dna of alien species sampled in the watch would be among the top 10 strongest or most powerful. This logic is the very reason Azmuth was able to unlock Way Big for Ben during his showdown with Vilgax in the Ben 10 movie.

  • @mangareader7474
    @mangareader7474 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Honestly i always thought plumbers helper should've been a spinoff series

    • @painvillegaming4119
      @painvillegaming4119 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      that is one of the biggest mistake of the show they didnt expand as much as they need it this ois probably CN most succeful show and they really srewed it over

  • @shinyagumon7015
    @shinyagumon7015 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Cannonball returning is so hype.

  • @supersyfydude
    @supersyfydude 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I may not be on your patreon but I definitely want you guys to continue watching Ben 10 all the way up to Omniverse trust me its worth it

  • @javontemorant4701
    @javontemorant4701 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Truth be told, y'all wanted a bit too much for this. That's why y'all didn't enjoy this much. Even though I did agree they overhyped up Master Control and old aliens returning.

    • @sortastupid
      @sortastupid  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      We weren’t really looking for much, we’re easily entertained. We just didn’t think it was that great

    • @javontemorant4701
      @javontemorant4701 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@sortastupid oh okay. I understand.

  • @jacobbondurant7186
    @jacobbondurant7186 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Adding new aliens to the roster in the middle of a war would be a wild card. Sure he got his butt handed to him the first time he transformed into Humongousaur, but he’s learned how to fight from Gwen since then. At this point in the series, he chooses aliens he knows are effective.
    Spoilers.
    Although, you do make a good point about Ben’s aliens being too OP. Don’t worry, they get a comparative debuff in the next season.

  • @DiamondBatToons
    @DiamondBatToons 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    I think I figured out why I like Omniverse over Alien Force OR Ultimate Alien (besides OV having the better artstyle), it's because Omniverse actually has Ben turn into a variety of aliens unlike this show. Really? Swampfire twice??

    • @theamazingspooderman2697
      @theamazingspooderman2697 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      OV also brought a lot of previous aliens back like Grey Matter, Wildvine, the three Halloween aliens, Arctiguana, etc.

    • @Serendiss
      @Serendiss 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      Omniverse really is the peak of the omnitrix, there's so many aliens of all seasons being used

    • @DiamondBatToons
      @DiamondBatToons 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @theamazingspooderman2697 Not my point. But okay, I meant that Ben in OV didn't turn into the same 4 aliens in a row like this show did.

    • @DiamondBatToons
      @DiamondBatToons 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @Serendiss FACTS! Considering that was THE Omnitrix, the final product, as Azimuth stated, it's definitely the best version! (Although I do prefer how the Ink Tank changed the way the dial worked in their 5 Years Later comic)

    • @hwgwrestling9203
      @hwgwrestling9203 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@DiamondBatToons there was a omniverse episode where ben transformed into swampfire five times!

  • @SpacialRend7
    @SpacialRend7 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I was all for the Alien Force exclusive alien transformations, but seeing the ones from the OG series make a comeback in this show was pretty sweet.

  • @shadowrkz2525
    @shadowrkz2525 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Next season is gonna be lit. And next series gonna be more serious.

  • @theamazingspooderman2697
    @theamazingspooderman2697 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I agree about your complaints about Master Control not used efficiently and only same aliens being used and other points about DNAliens but not about others especially that point about Max destroying the jump gate, lets assume he destroyed it earlier, that would only solve the problem on Earth when other planets will still be at risk of extinction

  • @BySpartan
    @BySpartan 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    YEAHHH SURE GRAY MATTER CAN PILOT A WARSHIP SURE!

  • @nshippudennaruto2814
    @nshippudennaruto2814 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I think this show is very well written seeing how this show was on cartoon network…people forget that

  • @Harry17Awesome
    @Harry17Awesome 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    25:22 he has millions of aliens to choose from, he keeps choosing the same four …ROFLL!!! 28:15 🤣
    28:40 he’s my homiee 😂

  • @drcheesy
    @drcheesy 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    When Atomix actually shows up in Omniverse that gotta call him Way Big

  • @evelynarhondi6375
    @evelynarhondi6375 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    25:45 "It's the fucking Gorosei" 🤣 So true!

  • @aquelgamermexicano
    @aquelgamermexicano 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This reaction is kind of special because of how far off they are from the general perception of this finale, to the point where i at least can't help but see where they're coming from, despite me disagreeing.
    Like, the whole scene with the council is such a big deal and i know this finale is among the best in the fandom, so the idea of them tearing it apart and laughing their asses off by how they perceived the scene as "Dude walks in, says Ben's cool, and now he's president" just makes me appreciate the reaction in its own way LOL

  • @milesbradshaw6643
    @milesbradshaw6643 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    If this was the last episode of the Ben 10 series, it would have been an awesome series finale.

  • @donovan802
    @donovan802 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Does anyone here in the comments follow The Ink Tank?
    If so, what are the chances that’s the next goal for Ash? Make a million different aliens for Ben? Obviously, that’s insane 😂😅, and this is entirely up to him and the team since they’re working on And Beyond and Ash is pretty close to finishing Ultimates for every alien Ben has canonically used as of the end of Omniverse. Still, that’d be pretty wild.

    • @nzuzovilakazi901
      @nzuzovilakazi901 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That would take a whole crew of people at the very least to design their own aliens, and not just a few like ,several hundreds if not thousands per person 😂

    • @theamazingspooderman2697
      @theamazingspooderman2697 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      million aliens is A LOT, Ben Prime unlocked like 72 aliens (I believe?) and even they feel a lot

    • @Vonmoonlight
      @Vonmoonlight 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@theamazingspooderman2697 yea just look at UAF opening...every alien + some ultimate versions....
      Just a less than 1 min video panning thru all the aliens Ben can turn into....that alone is alr overwhelming
      And this is why producers won't go with adult Ben show...cux by then he have master control and it be real hard to give reasons for Ben to be using new aliens when he has access to master control and just simply use what he knows and comfortable with instinctively in battle

  • @rpgrage7711
    @rpgrage7711 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Here it is season 2 finale is so freaking good I love it so much

  • @edos-lostei776
    @edos-lostei776 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Yeah I got to say as much I like Ben 10 I have to say the season finale of the second season of AF was super rushed, like they're alien nazis (just like another show they are watching, if you know you know) but one dude shows up and says "nah Ben chilling" and they are like 'NO WAY HE CHILLING🤯", two season of build up to this???, that's why I think season three of AF it's not bad at all.
    (btw I think you guys need a little break for Ben 10, like two weeks or soo...)

    • @theamazingspooderman2697
      @theamazingspooderman2697 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Reiny isn't just a dude tho but I get the point and it's kinda valid
      I also find it funny that people freak out that oh Ben became so immature and all that when even here u can see the "immature" side of Ben when he cut Azmuth before he explained everything about Master Control (which he should have known anyway cuz he knew that in Classic and he didn't even had Azmuth back then)
      personally I didnt find Ben immature, just saw him as acting as others of his age

    • @Rodyx9
      @Rodyx9 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Completely disagree, I think it was executed wonderfully and it took it's time doing side stories because season 1 was spent figuring out what they were doing. Season 2 was spent as kind of a way to explore some different story while each and every one of them acted as a small piece of the puzzle in the grand scheme of things.

    • @sortastupid
      @sortastupid  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      We actually did take like a month long break before s3 and we finished it recently and loved it. We liked it way better than s2

    • @Rodyx9
      @Rodyx9 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@sortastupid That's a hottake lol

  • @jthecryptid
    @jthecryptid 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Tbf Ben rewrote the Highbreed's DNA at the right moment. He needed testimony from Reiny (a Highbreed noble) to prevent further conflict from breaking out, and the tech of active dimension-hopping gates to get a wide enough effect.
    For all Ben's flaws (esp post-season 2 UAF), a sentiment i get from his that he's not a god, that he can't just solve everything willy-nilly, that its unethical and can quickly spiral down a very dark path where no one can stop him. Alien X is to be used strictly as the last resort of last resorts. Like, the multiverse is actively-imploding levels of crisis and Ben's second-strongest reality-warping aliens can't do jack. Same sentiment to those second and third-tier aliens too (who are either immensely destructive like Way Big or control some fundamental force of nature to godlike extremes)

    • @Vonmoonlight
      @Vonmoonlight 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And Ben had always been someone to fight fair, he never switches to something ridiculously overpowered unless he had to. Be it by circumstances or rage.

  • @blazedj
    @blazedj 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I remembered the mixing of the High Breeds, but i didn’t remember it ending so simply. Now, I guess I know why. To me, it seems like they either needed another episode in order to keep from rushing the ending, or they were a little too eager to end this conflict and start on the next.
    As far as the access to one million aliens tease, I can understand why they did it the way they did. It’s a safer bet to resort to aliens he already has experience with than some new, random one when they likely don’t have the time to figure it out on the fly. At least, that’s my head cannon. However, I hate that we don’t get a reason Ben favors specific aliens, even though he has others that would be more effective, like my personal favorite Big Chill. Invulnerability plus the ability to freeze, even no lethally, there’s no losing to anything other than a stronger type matchup or the plot.

  • @dominicrojasbarillas6972
    @dominicrojasbarillas6972 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    8:50
    Top 10 Return Transformations, Change my mind.

  • @megacrashthehedgehog5377
    @megacrashthehedgehog5377 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    NGL, when Atomix actually shows up for real, imagine if they start calling him Way Big. I would laugh my ass off at that. Let's bring the joke home.

  • @CyberHound0912
    @CyberHound0912 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I'll be honest as cool as alien x is he is too op and plus it would get boring quickly if he just only uses alien x and I liked how he used the omnitrix helped the hybrid with their genes instead of alien x. Besides the reason why ben still uses the alien force aliens during the finale is because the omnitrix has a Playlist that has 10 aliens per Playlist and it would have to unlock the others Playlists if ben wants his other aliens. The hybrid arc is one of the best arcs in the ben 10 series.

    • @aquelgamermexicano
      @aquelgamermexicano 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Also isn't Alien X both OP and broken at the same time due to the drawback of him being stuck forever in the dimension with those giant green heads? Like yes Alien X is essentially the strongest alien ever if you're able to use his powers, but that's part of their struggle, they actually cannot use them.

  • @GILLIGFAN
    @GILLIGFAN 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Hope y’all do continue through
    ALL OF Ben 10

  • @Kingcrimson_1456
    @Kingcrimson_1456 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I wish the atomix joke never dies

  • @christianrad9924
    @christianrad9924 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    “Give us an alien that specializes piloting ships” too bad it’s gotta be like 2 years until they see Rad Dudesman

  • @DeltaGreen03
    @DeltaGreen03 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    I honestly forget so much of Alien Force Season 2, and your reactions honestly explained why 😂
    Still probably my fav of the original series, but I am on an Omniverse watch and it's pretty good

    • @painvillegaming4119
      @painvillegaming4119 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      omniverse is great

    • @DeltaGreen03
      @DeltaGreen03 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@painvillegaming4119 Genuinely is, while some of humor is a miss, I am legitimately having fun watching

    • @theamazingspooderman2697
      @theamazingspooderman2697 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​@@DeltaGreen03 the humor is my kind of humor, especially whenever Ben rants and Yuri's voice is perfect for that rant

    • @TyRendition
      @TyRendition 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Omniverse is more in lines with the OG where it multiple episodic with a background plotline until the final episodes while AF it was linear with just one plotline throughout the show.@@DeltaGreen03

  • @aamirreacts1993
    @aamirreacts1993 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    in the last of everything's going to be fine billy the dude is looking straight into my soul and saying it and its kinda scary to be honest XD.

  • @luciuseclipse
    @luciuseclipse 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The overacting villian of Highbreeds is not the issues, it's just that it wasn't executed as well, and it's easier to notice that than week to week stuff.

  • @orbboom6119
    @orbboom6119 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    It was kinda like the Steven Universe finale, gotta end the space wars quick and peaceful, PG wars lol.

  • @ThePokemonfan1993
    @ThePokemonfan1993 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I mean to be fair with the voice command he would still only know what Aliens he knows, & azmuth said they were separated by 10s right? it could take him years transforming into every alien & hours to find a specific one he needs

  • @painvillegaming4119
    @painvillegaming4119 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    i feel like we being unfair to you guys i can honestly see why didnt like this finally

  • @怪獣エイト
    @怪獣エイト 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    39:05 Ben 10: Ultimate Alien offers a better power scaling and explains at some point how the aliens work

  • @christianrad9924
    @christianrad9924 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    wait until they get to ultimate alien with all the people just getting murdered

  • @Hassanimtiaz2k21
    @Hassanimtiaz2k21 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Felt really funny when Raph called Waybig, few minutes after knowing its name….Atomix again🤣🤣🤣

  • @capsey_
    @capsey_ 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    "Gwen is strong, but I don't know if she can be a death machine"
    Oh, you sweet summer child...

  • @oneaspiringartist5822
    @oneaspiringartist5822 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    @Sorta Stupid , I agree with you guys. When I rewatch the series I would skip the fluff episodes in this season of alien force because it was lacking so much when compared to the other seasons. Also Way Big is the weakest strongest alien in the watch, he's Ultraman with less laser beams, and was just giant alien.

    • @Vonmoonlight
      @Vonmoonlight 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Funny enough his "ultraman signature move" with cross arm laser wasn't even used till so much ltr

    • @Rodyx9
      @Rodyx9 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Way big is ridiculously powerful I don't really know what you're talking about. You could say that four arms is just a dude with 4 four arms. Stinkfly is a big bug that flies. You can oversimplify every alien down to the point of demeaning it.

  • @marvellux4654
    @marvellux4654 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Here comes Ben's character regression for Season 3

  • @sentai1988
    @sentai1988 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    The one you call atomix is called Way Big. Atomix is a different alien

    • @Vonmoonlight
      @Vonmoonlight 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They don't know that, they just like to call him Atomix

  • @josealejandronaporojas7834
    @josealejandronaporojas7834 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    There's a movie called Ben 10 Alien Swarm as it follows after the second season and before the third season I'd like you to see it.

  • @paolocalapatia6401
    @paolocalapatia6401 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Not only MY Fave but also THE BEST Season Finale of A Ben 10 Series EVER!!! Even compared to Seasons 1 & 2 of Ben 10 Original Series
    😎😎😎🥰🥰

  • @painvillegaming4119
    @painvillegaming4119 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    i can see why they didnt like this finally
    tho i still think it still a great finally just not as cinematic and didnt go as all out as they desired

  • @ainamedoliver
    @ainamedoliver 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    We did it boys, we defeated the race of space Hitlers.

  • @Andrew-Bastin
    @Andrew-Bastin 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Ben’s use of the master control was underwhelming compared to Classic, also I’ve always felt retconning the alien total from around 10’000 to over 1’000’000 to be pretty pointless, like there never going to get anywhere near either number.

    • @theamazingspooderman2697
      @theamazingspooderman2697 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      yeah OG Ben knew about voice control transformation and transforming by just thinking the alien in his mind and he did that without having Azmuth while AF Ben had Azmuth and still forgot about this feature
      I also find it funny how we never got a new alien even tho in Classic in Ben 10K episode we got like 3 new aliens
      Quick Change feature and getting rid of Mistransformations are another reason why Master Control feels lack lustre here

    • @mayotango1317
      @mayotango1317 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ​@@theamazingspooderman2697And that's why in Omniverse they overused the misstransformations so much to the point where it wasn't funny anymore.

    • @theamazingspooderman2697
      @theamazingspooderman2697 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@mayotango1317 who is finding it funny? mistransformations are to force Ben to adapt to different aliens and use their powers in a creative way
      plus he is gonna get Master Control at age 18 anyway so let Mistransformation be a thing till he becomes 18

    • @mayotango1317
      @mayotango1317 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@theamazingspooderman2697 No, is for make OV Ben stupid.

    • @scottchaison1001
      @scottchaison1001 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@theamazingspooderman2697 Don't say stupid things.

  • @colt1903
    @colt1903 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Just wanna say, you can't give him any flak for turning into Humongasaur when they were all bound. Dud literally only knows like... 25 names of the aliens in the watch.
    Though, to be honest... He should have gone Four Arms😂😂😂

  • @auramaster1042
    @auramaster1042 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Can't wait until next when you know who comes back and yes I know I know they've watched this probably like 5 months ago

  • @EthanMallonee
    @EthanMallonee 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    Anyone else want to see Ninjago on this channel?

    • @mangareader7474
      @mangareader7474 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Which season I'm up for season one

    • @ZXaria
      @ZXaria 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      As much as I love Ninjago, I don't think it has much there for someone who isn't nostalgic. Plus, after Crystalised, it goes so far down hill and never truly recovers.
      Something like Transformers Prime is far more deserving imo.

    • @darriongeorge5137
      @darriongeorge5137 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@ZXaria dragons rising is good though but yes crystalized had a lot of problems

    • @orbboom6119
      @orbboom6119 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Nah too long

    • @ZXaria
      @ZXaria 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@orbboom6119
      Yeah, that's the thing. 17 or so seasons with only a very few of them being worthwhile.

  • @sushijuice6895
    @sushijuice6895 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    we coulda gotten Grey Matter and Asmith working together in tthe ship instead of Brainstorm

  • @randomuser8150
    @randomuser8150 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I mean, even with 1 million aliens to choose from, you gotta take into account that most of them are useless in these kind of situations.
    Just look at the average human, and now think that most of those aliens are just like us, with maybe some talents, but overshadowed by others like Humongosaur or Big Chill.

  • @edgarbarrett2489
    @edgarbarrett2489 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I would still rewatch season 2 of alien force over season 3 and 4 of classic, especially season 4, that season is what I call lackluster. That's my opinion though.

  • @Harry17Awesome
    @Harry17Awesome 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    This season wasn’t good but y’all still made it entertaining, Thanks guys 😎

    • @mayotango1317
      @mayotango1317 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      This is the best season ever.

    • @theamazingspooderman2697
      @theamazingspooderman2697 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@mayotango1317 for npc Ben 10 fans who just follow the general opinion

    • @niyanna
      @niyanna 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@theamazingspooderman2697that's ironic because the general opinion is that the season wasn't good 🤔

  • @jthecryptid
    @jthecryptid 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    "Way Big" not Atomix ;) we'll meet Atomix in a future series tho

    • @afworld8051
      @afworld8051 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Atomix❤

    • @furi___99
      @furi___99 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      they internationally said atomix to trigger viewers 🤣🤣🤣

    • @jthecryptid
      @jthecryptid 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@furi___99 agh fell for it XD

    • @furi___99
      @furi___99 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jthecryptid y'all did

  • @Zombiesnyder13
    @Zombiesnyder13 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I loved this show so much that I made a video with the style of the opening of NEON GENESIS EVANGELION

  • @Animedingo
    @Animedingo 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Ben 10 cured racism