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Madame Web is seen in offhand stories, comics, and video games. Her origin is never fully explored, because its supposed to be mysterious. Her powers are completely OP. To write a 'hero's journey' would be near impossible with her character.
Idk if you know this or not but her origin is explored. She is (was Cassandra Webb is dead the new Madame Web is Julia Carpenter) psychic mutant who was blind from birth due to her strong clairvoyant and transient abilities. In fact they are so powerful that her body is connected to a life support machine made by her husband which is her infamous seat she sits on since she is also paralyzed. She isn't exactly Spider-Verse character and is more like the Beyonders or like the watchers except having more active roles in stories, Although it is true she has a deep connection to the Web of Life and Destiny. I don't remember everything so some stuff here may be incorrect.
Reminds me of the scene in some other movie where Lego nerds even deeper into the hobby than I am recognized the inaccurate set by the colors of certain specific brick sizes.
I mean if it released in 2005 in the U.S. and 2004 in Japan they probably had builds by 2003 they would have been testing. It's still dumb but not entirely impossible that someone could have an early build they were testing.
@@matane2465Yeah and that somehow super early prototype full of Sony trade secrets and proprietary tech is in some dudes hands on the New York subway instead of where it should be in Japan at Sony HQ.
I think you're giving this movie _waaaay_ too much credit. I've heard the "male gaze" described as overt sexualisation, whilst the "female gaze" is more about subtext & inference. There is NO inference or subtext in this movie. That would require effort.
Oh boy! A million dollar flop about a character or franchise I don't care about? My favorite thing! Seriously. Its funny how people now derive more entertainment from negative reviews than the movies themselves.
That's kinda sad tbh. Instead of finding enjoyment in discovering new movies or sharing your love for movies everyone would rather parrot the same argument for disliking a movie instead of acknowledging its bad then moving on audiences would rather get fixated on a movie/show for a while then constantly talk about it essentially keeping it alive.
What are you talking about? You know you like spiderman. You know the man part isn’t what makes them cool. So why can’t they just bring me pictures of a good spider person, damnit!
If it makes you feel better, the director didn't want this movie connected because she didn't want to have to pay attention to lore even a little bit, and the studio didn't want this connected because it was pretty obvious to them how bad it was going to be.
You can find cameras that are easily accessible just with a normal browser. I did that a few times about 15 years ago when I first learned about it. Wasn't terribly interesting to see some random street in a random city in a random country.
2003 would have been the early days of internet connected cameras, mostly through direct IP login to a DVR as the cameras them selves still used analog video for the most part. These days, the term CCTV has outlived it's usefulness in being accurate, but has come to define any on site camera network.
Yea I dunno how it is in America, but here we are taught CPR in school, likely cause we’re surrounded by water and have a strong beach culture nationally, but still, if someone just started doing CPR, I wouldn’t even raise an eyebrow.
Madame Web made some appearances in the Spiderman cartoon in the 90's voiced by Stan Lee's wife. She was an elderly blind paralyzed clairvoyant who guided Peter by giving him advice. She never did any physical superhero stuff. She would of been great in a Spiderman movie played by Helen Mirren. It was a mistake to give her own movie which to no one's surprise, it flopped.
I was just thinking Helen Mirren would have been great as Madam Web, if they kept her to the comics version. Or even Judy Dench. Could have had a whole "Nero Wolfe" vibe of a movie, with Madame Web desperately trying to alter the future and a side kick who has to help her do it.
@@coolhistory2710 Unlikely, considering Sony still makes spiderman movies (both live action and animated). More likely they aren't allowed to freely use Tom Holland's spiderman only, without permission from Disney since he's now part of the Avengers and MCU at large
@@autobotstarscream765 Andrew is too old to play Spiderman, who's supposed to be a young adult and his movies were flops. However, they can cast someone new into the role, explain it as some different timeline that isn't connected to MCU.
For context, Sony had a hard time with Amazing Spider Man 2. It made money but was heading in a downward trajectory. They cancelled the Amazing Spider Man 3 movie because of the second movie. Because of this, they made a deal with Disney, Marvel to loan Spiderman in a number of MCU movies and for MCU characters to have guest appearances in a number of Spiderman movies. We know the details of the contract due to Sony making a comedy about North Korea that pissed off NK. They hacked into Sony's database and released all the details of many contracts they have, one of witch was the Spiderman contract. The contract was very strict on Sony, and it makes sense as Sony was the desperate party wanting to reimage Spiderman and ride the coattails of the MCU at its hight. The contract had in it that all characters from the Spiderman franchise must be unique in that they will only be in the MCU shared movies cross franchise. Some of the reason was Marvel studios didn't want people to be confused with what movies were official MCU movies. So this ment Tom Holland Spiderman could not be in any movie that wasn't sanctioned by Marvel studios. Also Marvel had a clause that forbid Sony from having a different Spiderman in Sony movies to once again avoid audience confusion. That is why the Venom movies don't have Spiderman in them, even though he is central to the story. Sony thought they had a work around with the contract by having Spiderman movies that don't have the MCU characters in them. It was a gutsy move I think is proving to be a massive failure and mistake. You can't get away with trying to pull the wool over the audience's eyes for long. Eventually people will clue in that what Sony is doing is not in anyway tied to the Tom Holland movies.
Was she still wanted as a suspect for this kidnapping when she got on a plane to Peru? At a time when airport / plane security levels were through the roof -- in NYC particularly -- because it was less than 2 years after a certain plane-related incident.
I knew of Madame Web because of the 90s animated series and her appearance in an SNES Spider-Man game. She's a minor side character worthy of maybe a couple minutes of screentime. Making an entire movie around her is bizarre.
but silk is too horny for spiderman, so they definitely don't want their character to be madly inlove with some cis man because of some pheromone lol@@cracuss31n52
I can't wait for an origin movie about *J. Jonah Jameson* and his rise to the top at the *Daily Bugle!* Seriously, I can't be the only one who'd wanna see it, True Believers?!
Funny thing, Jameson is basically a caricature of Stan Lee and how he saw _himself_ as a harsh and sometimes unfair taskmaster to his employees. That kind of workplace environment and openness to criticism is why I'd assume he was good to work with, LOL
Dracula untold was a masterpiece. And whilst the gods of egypt was dumb, the overall story was decent. As for Morbius, it's Morbius, the first movie to earn Morbillion dollars, need I say more?
@@karanaher5030"Dracula untold" is a masterpiece the same way "The Room" is, as in so bad you can't stop laughing at it 😂 Never saw "Gods of Egypt" or "Morbius" and don't plan on it so no comment
@@frenchfry9370 Either way, a masterpiece is a masterpiece. In fact, I dare say madam web is also a masterpiece (though in the same way the room is one).
Madame Web is more than your average Marvel hero; she doesn't engage in physical battles but uses her clairvoyance and precognition to foresee the future and connect all spider-themed characters through the mystical Web of Life and Destiny. Essentially, she's the Marvel Universe's linchpin, akin to an internet router, critical yet complex to reset. Turning her into a frontline hero misses the mark. Madame Web excels as the omniscient guide, similar to a modern oracle using a crystal ball instead of social media. Her true strength lies in her deep knowledge and the ability to see the bigger picture, making her an unparalleled strategist within the spider-verse, akin to a more mystical version of DC's Oracle. Her depiction should reflect her unique role as the guiding seer, emphasizing her strategic importance rather than fitting her into a conventional heroic role.
This movie would have been better if it was written like the Flash movie, Groundhog day or Edge of Tomorrow (including a montage of several timeline of failures before she gets the hang of whats actually going on) (ofc ending with a return to the first shot of the movie and her knowing exactly how to solve it now). Probably also using a whole roster of villains at once (so people can fail against one and have Madam Web send someoe else with a skillset that counters that specific villain).
one thing to note is that the Sony PSP released in 2005, 2 years after this movie takes place. He could have been using a walkman. yet another thing that doesnt fit the time period in this movie
Yeah but he probably saw the future in a dream that he uploaded to the NSA so they could reverse engineer the PSP and make it for him, so it all checks out. It's fine.
I am not, considering how quickly they discontinued both it and the Psvita because they weren't "successful enough" despite both handhelds being very popular in the asian regions back in the day espacially japan (also lets not even mention the horrible decision to make the memory cards for the psvita proprietery when you can just use a normal one with a 3ds). Soyny would probably legitimately be competing with nintendo switch in the handheld market right now if they weren't so stupid.
The 50 Shades of Gray books started off as Twilight fanfiction. If Robert Pattinson can claw his way out of Twilight into the man he is today, I got my fingers crossed for Dakota Johnson too. Especially knowing that she fired her agent after Madam Web cuz this isn't the start to her redemption arc.
@@palkinatorpeople claim she’s been good in a few films, notably Suspiria. Really beautiful women don’t have to be great actresses. I think she’s really beautiful. Andie MacDowell has never been more than mediocre at best but she was a model originally and very pretty and has been adequate in otherwise good movies.
She can take acting classes again. Let's be real beautiful people need only above average talent to be successful in Hollywood. Firing her manager is good start if she doesn't fumble it . Fingers crossed
@@markiangooley I would rather an actor have to be good at what they do than just be attractive. If they are both then more power to them, but I think it would be better for a movie's quality if they had good actors and actresses, not just attractive ones. I would settle for likeable actors, which when it comes to Dakota Johnson, I think sometimes she is, but I haven't seen many of her movies so I'm collecting from a very small sample size and I don't have any perception of her as a person although I don't feel any dislike towards her, although I don't get the sense that she has much charisma. Again, I wouldn't know in all fairness. What I'm getting at is that some actors even if they aren't the best often get by on certain types of roles or on their own charisma or just likeability overall outside of their acting (Keanu Reeves is an example of this as he isn't the best or worst actor out there, but he is really good in stoic roles and is a super nice and charismatic guy as a person) but I never really thought of Dakota Johnson as a great actress or someone who stands out that much personality-wise outside of her movies other than being attractive, so there isn't much that really draws me to go see her movies. I'm not trying to hate on her, I'm just saying that attractiveness shouldn't be all we expect from an actor or actress in order to go see their films. Also to be fair, a single performer no matter how capable isn't typically enough to carry a movie. It's a collaborative effort and although I haven't seen this movie, I think it's pretty obvious that the blame shouldn't be put squarely on any one actor's shoulders, including Johnson's. If anything, this movie seems to fail predominantly in the writing and directing, with the acting being a problem, but not the main one, and more so across the board, not just with its leading actor. As for Dakota's other work, I don't think of her as a good actor to my taste, but there have been much worse ones. I still would rather see a movie with good acting as opposed to pretty faces.
Finally a Possum Review! And Madame Web was first seen by me during the 90s animated series. She isn't a strong enough character to have her own solo series
Modern day female characters are not even likeable anymore. Like Sarah Conner was so amazing and relatable. One can understand that she's a mother, and fights to protect her son. But nowadays, the female characters are so garbage.
Basically, the original Madam Webb was an old woman, voiced by Stan Lee's wife, on the old Spiderman cartoon. She served as the Dungeon Master of the old Dungeons and Dragons cartoons for most of it, giving cryptic advice and warnings. At the end she ends up to have been working with the Beyonder, a godlike interdimensional being, to test many alternate Spidermen, and make a group of them (that they decided would be led by the main cartoon one) to help fight a Peter that went crazy and was possessed by Carnage's symbionte, and that was threatening to destroy the multiverse itself. On the last episode she took him to meet Stan Lee and then to find Mary Jane, who had disappeared inside a portal for... a while. And that was the end of the show. I don't know much about her in the comics, but she came from the cartoon. And was also just as old and cryptic there.
i only ever saw her in the original amazing spiderman from the 90's, she was a foreteller ally to spiderman, also helped him connect with his alternate dimensional selves
Same. Despite reading a lot of comics I legitimately didn't even know that she was from the comics until this movie got announced and I saw people bringing it up. Why would you make a movie about a character whose most iconic appearance was in a cartoon that ended 27 years ago?
@doctabaldhead a good movie can be made from it. If anything, The Lego Movie proved that a movie can be made about pretty much anything and be entertaining. However, Star Wars: The Force Awakens proves that you can have the entire road map to success laid out before you with step-by-step instructions on how to reach it and you can still botch everything up and leave the audience with a hot mess
@@clydewill2340 They should have begun with Madame webb already being old and crippled, not only because that is the most familiar version to anyone who even knows her, but also will potentially make people curious about how and why she continues doing what she does, idk, seems much of a better story than whatever they tried in this
People who didn't know about madame web: "who the he'll is madame web?" People who knew about madame web: "why the hell would you make a movie about madame web?" People who saw madame web: "what the hell was that crap"
Certain characters are created to supplement the A-list characters of their respective universe. Madame Web is not a character that can carry an entire film as the lead protagonist. She was created to supplement Spiderman's universe therefore she MUST be utilized in a Spiderman led film.
I could see her giving some advice to Venom, too, maybe Blade or Morbius, but yeah absolutely not headline her own film. She's got big "sage NPC" energy.
Sony PSP wasn't even released until late 2004/early 2005, so he couldn't have been playing one in 2003. I should know, I had one of the first in Europe, because I bought it in Japan. Demand in Europe was crazy back then, I had mine for half a year and still sold it for a nice profit.
Also, removing your plates would be more likely to call attention to you than having hot tags. People may glance over plates. They definitely notice a lack thereof
@@autobotstarscream765I feel Andrew's too old at this rate (pretty sure he's almost 40). I do love him, though. He's probably my favourite actor to ever play the character (as much as I love the Raimi films, Andrew was definitely the better Peter). I wish that they'd made at least a third movie, as it would've been interesting to see what his life post-Gwen would've been like.
I vaguely remember this character from the 90's animated series where she occasionally appears. Why did they decide to make a film on such an obscure and little known "hero" is anyone's guess.
Some people seem to think we don't need another reboot of a popular character (which is probably true), but we need more phoned in strong female character movies (probably wrong).
To be fair, Iron Man used to be some c-list hero until the RDJ films boosted his popularity. It's all about execution. But too bad they got hacks to write Madam Web.
4:52 Okay, so Madam Web is some weird entity that can bend time and had telepathy. I only had a single issue with her growing up, and all my info is from the 90s cartoon. Which became Canon. In the cartoon, she's a mentor to Spider-Man. Kinda like Raiden in the Mortal Kombat movie. She just gives advice, and she doesn't intervene directly. Towards the end, it was revealed that she was friends with The Beyonder, and they had a specific destiny for Spider-Man/Spider-Men.
The most funny part to me is the fact that Cassandra is born in the amazon so she probably don't have an American passport but okay somehow she got back, then she just goes to peru and comes back like its nothing in 2003 a post 911 America
Madame Web sounds like someone who'd solve problems by using predictions in clever and intricate ways. But the writers couldn't come up with anything for her to do but driving cars, self-cloning, and bloody CPR.
I heard that the actors had been told that this was an "MCU" movie, and even on set, were led to believe that they were basically working for the MCU. That would explain why some of these actors are in the movie, and why they're now pissed and trashing the movie (in addition to the movie just being bad). I think Sony was forced to put the movie out in time in order to keep the copyright going, and that was the most important goal for them - just get it out in time. Everything else (whether it was any good, whether it made money) was secondary. Except now that it's such a huge flop, that may have spelled disaster for this part of the "universe" as a whole. Sony still owns Spider-Man (and all of the characters related to him), I believe, but for right now, they're allowing Marvel to use Spider-Man in movies (and Sony gets paid like 50% of the gross). While Marvel is using Spider-Man, I don't think Sony can use him the same way, so they can only beat around the bush and make references to him. But I think as far as the Spider-Man characters are concerned, Sony has full ownership, technically. Marvel has just gotten temporary permission to use Spider-Man himself - though Marvel owned Spider-Man back in the day, and there's a possibility that they could sue to get back the rights now that all these Sony movies are flopping. If it's true that the actors were lied to, Marvel can sue and say that Sony is misrepresenting their movies and trying to muddy the waters between Sony/Marvel, and therefore Sony shouldn't have the rights anymore.
In the comics, Madame Web was a psychic who could see the "Web of Time" under the concept that there is no singular future that's guaranteed to happen, only possibilities that intertwine with the present like a spiderweb. However, her mind is so powerful her body is weak to the point where she cannot survive without a life support system, that which looks like a throne with a giant web behind it. In one comic, the Rhino is sent to kidnap her and she nearly dies since he removes her from her life support. Blind to the present right in front of her and unable to move on her own, she primarily acted as an advisor to Spiderman. That being said, she was not particularly connected to him through origin or powers.
It's honestly ironic that you people whined about S-3 having 'too many villains' even though you clapped like deranged seals whenever a new character was haphazardly shoved into the MCU
The first time I heard about Madame Web,I legit thought it was some type of spy movie, until I saw the costumes,I was like "What.. What the heck is this?". They already blaming evil men/patriarchy about its flop. And I bet you, Kraven will also be a crap movie
I'm predicting Nerdrotic makes a joke along the lines of "Toxic feminists refuse to watch Kraven" and they start talking about how no its just a shit movie with absolutley no sense of irony at all.
@@dylansharp8471 Nerdorotic is a youtube that along with others, who likes to take the piss/review these shitty comicbook movies. He actualy coined the "Peter Parker is Spiderman, Miles Morales is Mile Morales" meme. My predicticion is the loony lefty/feminists who assume that any women lead movie is disliked is because toxic males hate women or a black lead is 'racism' while ingoring any other critism. I am predicticing that when Kraven (white or near white male character) comes out he or one of the other reviewers will make a joke about how toxic women just wouldn't watch it becasue well see what i've already written. Now i've said that i have no idea who they cast as Kraven so i amend my predicton to If Kraven is played by a white man...... If he is played by a POC we will just be called racist again.
What’s very ironic about Madame Web’s obvious Pepsi product placement is the fact that one of Sony’s movie divisions-Columbia, was owned by its long-time rival soda company Coke during the early-to-mid 80s, but was then purchased by Sony in 1989 where it still stands today. Am I the only people who noticed this?
As far as I know Madame Web never had a backstory, she was just an old lady with weird powers who kinda sorta helped Peter with some very specific problems (Kinda like the magical counterpart to Dr. Connors), she was cool but not movie-worthy, they should have just had her show up in Holland's Spider-man 4 being his new Dr. Strange.
Sounds like the actual thing to explore with the content they advanced was the trauma someone would endure from seeing hundreds of terrible futures and constantly struggling to stay ahead of the threats.
especialy as how she 'sees' them she outright experiences them as reality, i can't speak for anyone else but i would almost immeadiatly start disassociating form reality because i wouldn't be able to tell what was real.
These mainstream 300mil movies are starting to look like Sci-Fi Channel made-for-TV movies. Actually, some Sci-Fi movies are at least entertainingly bad.
That's because people think that simply because they're making a superhero movie it automatically means they don't have to try to actually give the characters growth or some sort of arc
@@jeremyallen5974Tbf they kinda didn't for the last few years. The talented ones like Robert downey jr, Chris evans, Scarlett johanssan and Chris hemsworth put all the hard work into creating the MCU brand and now the new talentless excuse of new actors think they can garner that same kind of respect and attention just by getting a superhero role in a marvel movie. Sadly for most of them, the gravy train has long ended ever since endgame (yes I know this is a soyny movie, i am just using the MCU as an example).
@dylansharp8471 , there are actors that don't take superhero roles seriously and believe they can half-ass their performance because superheroes are for children. Yes I've heard this before, no I don't remember where.
From the moment this was announced, I knew it was gonna be bad. Not from it being a Sony Spiderman-adjacent film, but rather how the Hell do you make a movie based off of Madame Web? Literally, what she does is guide and assist Spider-Man in certain cases and plays against the Beyonder in what's basically a game of Risk with superheroes and supervillains. She's a paralyzed and blind mutant that can see the future and possesses Telepathy that uses it to help uphold the fabric of reality and solve crime with Peter Parker. She's not really a direct-line crime fighter or fighter in general since she's old and crippled. Sure she can still fight with her telepathy and precognition, but a direct fight with anyone is not in her favor. And especially worse when Ezekiel, another mentor and ally of Spider-Man, is the Tarantula. Like, the backstory is sorta similar, except that he's actually evil and not a jackass that does good stuff, but what was stopping them from using Morlun? The change sounds so stupid and pointless that it feels like they put effort into being lazy.
Anyone else getting Pepsi Man 2 vibes? This was the movie that was supposed to sell that game, they just made the blue jumpsuit into spider lady, here and hoped no one noticed because the game is behind schedule by a lot, so they gave Pepsi Man breasts, and called it good. Pepsi for TV movie!
I only know of Madame Web because of the 90s Spiderma animated series. Outside of that one appearance there's a few points in the Spider-verse comics but she isn't interesting enough to make a movie about. She has the same problem with Venom being their character can't work without Spiderman. The only saving grace to this movie is we thankfully didn't get an Aunt May spy movie. Yes that was a thing Sony was talking about alongside a Silver Sable and Black Cat crossover back in 2018, not even making it up.
Btw, the psp was released in 2004, a year after when this movie took place Sony failed to track when their own products come out for their product placement films
@@mikescorpio13 Ngl comic Big Wheel actually had an interesting character arc over his run... There is much more drive and character motivation already there to for any number of the Spiders rogues than Madam bloody web. MW is supposed to be a mysterious guiding figure to the various spider-men, not knowing who she really was or what here true goal/end game... Well was part of the fun. I'd watch a Kite, or mothman movie before watching another slog like this. At least you could make fun of the obvious joke character MW is a side character to be respected... This is just cruel.
"Madame Web was then in a wheelchair looking out a window of her new apartment, even though she's blind." That got me good, haven't laughed that hard at a lil quip in ages.
Madam Web os supposed to be the supporting character for Spiderman and other spider token characters. She should have been introduced in a Spiderverse movie.
This movie felt like a SyFy mockbuster of Spider-man, complete with the “barely-avoiding-copyright-looking” suit and the fact that the most recognizable character is the villain
Madam Web I remember as a human plot device from the Spiderman animated series. One of the old gems from the 90’s. Back then she was just a cryptic grandma who summoned Peter to her private pocket dimension before sending him on plot centric missions to other dimensions that would result in Peter meeting alternate versions of himself or Spiderman. Whenever Granny Webb showed up you knew the story was revving up to get complicated. Beyond that she had no other relevance to the Marvel Universe that I’m aware of. Her overall purpose seems to be as a supervisor for the spiderverse I think. Other than her affinity for Tarot that’s about all I know about her. She never struck me as a heroic character so much as a supporting character for Spider Man.
If im remembering right, i saw Madame Web in the 90s Spiderman cartoon, and even then she was helping stop some multiverse stuff and working with a bunch of different versions of spidrman.
All the budget went into suits and CG that didn't even canonically get used because Pepsi Web changed the future and the girls learned nothing except CPR. 😂
"...baiting a sequel that will never happen, and then the movie ends." I've been binge-watching these videos and I am jarred by how many times I have now heard you say these words in various ways.
90's cartoon spiderman was the intro for me to the character. She was pretty much an interdimensional witch. It was pretty fun. This movie is T R A S H
There were ten other people in the theater with me because Seniors get in for free on Thursdays and half of them were asleep. They were the lucky ones.
This and you are the reason that I'm going to make a comic book series with zero time travel and only 1 universe. There's only one. Stuff affects other stuff in the universe but it all stays within that universe.
I know Madame Web from that sick Spiderman game where you got to play as all the different Spider Men from other dimensions. I was excited cuz I thought we’d get a look at an older superhero character, but nah. We get…girl…
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The PSP didn't come out until 2005, so not only product placement for a product not sold anymore, but it's historically innacurate as well.
So you didnt watch the early 90's Spider-man cartoon to its end? Thats the only media I know Madame Web from.
Thats so raven did it better 😂😂
Had a feeling you were going to post a vod....
Turns out it was just gas😂
" if yur friends with P, then yur friends with me".... If you know, you know
it was obviously a prequel to PepsiMan cinematic universe
Facts
PEPSI MAAAAAAAAN!
Based
His main powers are Diabetes and morbid obesity but he can also rot your teeth out of your head!
Im down for that lmao
Madame Web is seen in offhand stories, comics, and video games. Her origin is never fully explored, because its supposed to be mysterious. Her powers are completely OP. To write a 'hero's journey' would be near impossible with her character.
Her character type is meant to be a mentor and guide for the actual leading hero.
It's also that there are two Madame Webs, the older mentor type and the more active, more traditional superhero type.
Idk if you know this or not but her origin is explored. She is (was Cassandra Webb is dead the new Madame Web is Julia Carpenter) psychic mutant who was blind from birth due to her strong clairvoyant and transient abilities. In fact they are so powerful that her body is connected to a life support machine made by her husband which is her infamous seat she sits on since she is also paralyzed. She isn't exactly Spider-Verse character and is more like the Beyonders or like the watchers except having more active roles in stories, Although it is true she has a deep connection to the Web of Life and Destiny. I don't remember everything so some stuff here may be incorrect.
She's like squirrel girl. She's not meant to make sense.
Sounds like a good side character for expository dialogue.
So this movie takes place in 2003. You have a guy playing a PSP...a console that didn't even release in the US until 2005.
Yep, can't even say it's a Japan import, the PSP came out there in december 2004
They didn't bother with the details of the characters from the COMICS. So I'm not surprised that they didn't have everything else remotely accurate.
Reminds me of the scene in some other movie where Lego nerds even deeper into the hobby than I am recognized the inaccurate set by the colors of certain specific brick sizes.
I mean if it released in 2005 in the U.S. and 2004 in Japan they probably had builds by 2003 they would have been testing. It's still dumb but not entirely impossible that someone could have an early build they were testing.
@@matane2465Yeah and that somehow super early prototype full of Sony trade secrets and proprietary tech is in some dudes hands on the New York subway instead of where it should be in Japan at Sony HQ.
So the villain had a costume looking like a Spider suit before Pete even designed it himself. Makes sense...well done Sony. Another lukewarm turd.
Don't you get it?!! He saw the future dood
*Sarcasm*
Yeah, like, is Peter in this universe going to base his outfit off of a murderer? Or will he just so happen to make an identical suit.
Not only that, but the villain they chose is one that never, not once, wore a "superhero suit" in the comics.
@@NopeNaw Nice one SONY!
The irony is that they made the characters frumpy because of the "male gaze", but the only thing anyone remembers are the red carpet outfits.
And instead they decided to make a movie for the male gays. SJ Clarkson should change her name to SJ Wson. Boom! Got 'em!
Hahaaaaaaaa checkmate, liberals!
@@othertalk3313 I just want to say I laughed so hard, I literally died. I'm now a ghost typing this. Never heard such an eloquently put joke before!
I think you're giving this movie _waaaay_ too much credit.
I've heard the "male gaze" described as overt sexualisation, whilst the "female gaze" is more about subtext & inference.
There is NO inference or subtext in this movie. That would require effort.
@@othertalk3313 I think this every time I see the name.
Oh boy! A million dollar flop about a character or franchise I don't care about? My favorite thing!
Seriously. Its funny how people now derive more entertainment from negative reviews than the movies themselves.
That's kinda sad tbh. Instead of finding enjoyment in discovering new movies or sharing your love for movies everyone would rather parrot the same argument for disliking a movie instead of acknowledging its bad then moving on audiences would rather get fixated on a movie/show for a while then constantly talk about it essentially keeping it alive.
@@albertthepeacock8020I mean, no one asked for her, so…
What are you talking about? You know you like spiderman. You know the man part isn’t what makes them cool. So why can’t they just bring me pictures of a good spider person, damnit!
@@SweetOrangeGirlno one asked for superheroes or movies or entertainment as we know it yet here we are
@@minecraftcoolman59wrong. I asked for good movies. Key word: good.
Sony: Let's make a "connected" cinematic Spider-Man universe but without showing or mentioning Spider-Man in practically every ham fisted way.
DC: Let's make all these Batman related shows without having Batman in it!
How else are they going to meet their diversity quota
@@ThePageofRageLMAO
That's what they are doing. This is what their official agreement with Marvel allows them to do.
If it makes you feel better, the director didn't want this movie connected because she didn't want to have to pay attention to lore even a little bit, and the studio didn't want this connected because it was pretty obvious to them how bad it was going to be.
I miss the days when Madame Web was some enigmatic fortune-teller voiced by Stan Lee's wife.
i swear no writers know what the “closed circuit” in CCTV means and just think every security camera everywhere can be hacked and remotely viewed…
True.
They're ignoring the part that it's literally a closed loop attached to its own office and operator.
You can find cameras that are easily accessible just with a normal browser.
I did that a few times about 15 years ago when I first learned about it. Wasn't terribly interesting to see some random street in a random city in a random country.
2003 would have been the early days of internet connected cameras, mostly through direct IP login to a DVR as the cameras them selves still used analog video for the most part. These days, the term CCTV has outlived it's usefulness in being accurate, but has come to define any on site camera network.
@@ZealotOfStealSo the villain just watch thousands of cctv footage around the city and still managed to recognise 4 women?
"I'm teaching you CPR."
"Why?"
"Because otherwise everyone will be wondering how you know how to do it at the end of the movie."
"Will they though?"
I most likely wouldn't. lol
I'm surprised they didn't just pour revive juice AKA Pepsi on her face.
@@frankieb9444Turns out the magic spider's special venom was just Pepsi all along!
The plot thickens!
Yea I dunno how it is in America, but here we are taught CPR in school, likely cause we’re surrounded by water and have a strong beach culture nationally, but still, if someone just started doing CPR, I wouldn’t even raise an eyebrow.
@@frankieb9444 "Pepsi brings your ancestors Back from the Dead."
Remember when we just had Toby Maguire Spider Man? I miss those days.
I enjoyed Andrew Garfield and Tom Holland’s performance but no one can ever replace Toby Maguire’s “I’m gonna throw dirt in your eyes” scene
I don’t watch many superhero movies, but I watched those and the first three X-men movies
Nightcrawler was awesome @@anaalicia5029
Bully Maguire was the best spiderman.
Yep. I miss superhero movies before everything had to be part of a shared universe, or worse a multiverse!
Madame Web made some appearances in the Spiderman cartoon in the 90's voiced by Stan Lee's wife. She was an elderly blind paralyzed clairvoyant who guided Peter by giving him advice. She never did any physical superhero stuff. She would of been great in a Spiderman movie played by Helen Mirren. It was a mistake to give her own movie which to no one's surprise, it flopped.
I did not know she was voiced by Stan’s wife!
I was just thinking Helen Mirren would have been great as Madam Web, if they kept her to the comics version. Or even Judy Dench.
Could have had a whole "Nero Wolfe" vibe of a movie, with Madame Web desperately trying to alter the future and a side kick who has to help her do it.
Helen Mirren would have been a great Madame Web.
@@sarasunshinemt4444 Judi Dench is going blind in real life so Madam Web (post origin) is within her range still.
@@Scrinwaipwr very sad.
Never understood why sony makes spiderman movies without spiderman.
Must be some wierd contract with disney.
I do believe they sold Disney spiderman, ie the character but nothing else
@@coolhistory2710 Unlikely, considering Sony still makes spiderman movies (both live action and animated).
More likely they aren't allowed to freely use Tom Holland's spiderman only, without permission from Disney since he's now part of the Avengers and MCU at large
@her5030 I think it has more to do with Tom Holland only having one Spider-Man movie left in his contract.
@karanaher5030 Then use Andrew Garfield's Spider-Man since apparently that's Sony!
@@autobotstarscream765 Andrew is too old to play Spiderman, who's supposed to be a young adult and his movies were flops.
However, they can cast someone new into the role, explain it as some different timeline that isn't connected to MCU.
For context, Sony had a hard time with Amazing Spider Man 2. It made money but was heading in a downward trajectory. They cancelled the Amazing Spider Man 3 movie because of the second movie. Because of this, they made a deal with Disney, Marvel to loan Spiderman in a number of MCU movies and for MCU characters to have guest appearances in a number of Spiderman movies. We know the details of the contract due to Sony making a comedy about North Korea that pissed off NK. They hacked into Sony's database and released all the details of many contracts they have, one of witch was the Spiderman contract.
The contract was very strict on Sony, and it makes sense as Sony was the desperate party wanting to reimage Spiderman and ride the coattails of the MCU at its hight. The contract had in it that all characters from the Spiderman franchise must be unique in that they will only be in the MCU shared movies cross franchise. Some of the reason was Marvel studios didn't want people to be confused with what movies were official MCU movies. So this ment Tom Holland Spiderman could not be in any movie that wasn't sanctioned by Marvel studios. Also Marvel had a clause that forbid Sony from having a different Spiderman in Sony movies to once again avoid audience confusion. That is why the Venom movies don't have Spiderman in them, even though he is central to the story. Sony thought they had a work around with the contract by having Spiderman movies that don't have the MCU characters in them. It was a gutsy move I think is proving to be a massive failure and mistake. You can't get away with trying to pull the wool over the audience's eyes for long. Eventually people will clue in that what Sony is doing is not in anyway tied to the Tom Holland movies.
90s spiderman cartoon was great, had her in it and she was cool and mysterious.
@@overlordzetta7410who cares? it was done in a good way, that character worked and made the cartoon better.
Yeah I paid to see if it was as bad as people say and it's just awful.@@LT-dn7mt
No to mention she was mysterious.
@@LT-dn7mt She was never really meant to be. She is a magical guide meant to support Spider-man not a headliner.
@@miothan If only she appeared in all Spider-Man cartoons afterward.
Plank from Ed Edd and Eddie has more emotional range than Dakota Johnson
Acting in the Fifty Shades movies without breaking out in laughter all the time shows that she has some ability…
8:53 What is glossed over here is the fact that their "kidnaping" was in the newspaper, like 4-ish hours after the event... lol
I feel like the movie makers forgot how slow information was before.
Was she still wanted as a suspect for this kidnapping when she got on a plane to Peru? At a time when airport / plane security levels were through the roof -- in NYC particularly -- because it was less than 2 years after a certain plane-related incident.
The director wants it set in 2003 but wants near instant news updates of 2023.
I knew of Madame Web because of the 90s animated series and her appearance in an SNES Spider-Man game. She's a minor side character worthy of maybe a couple minutes of screentime. Making an entire movie around her is bizarre.
Its a strong and independent woman, im not surprised one bit.
@@DaRealKing303 Silk is 100% the better option
but silk is too horny for spiderman, so they definitely don't want their character to be madly inlove with some cis man because of some pheromone lol@@cracuss31n52
I can't wait for an origin movie about *J. Jonah Jameson* and his rise to the top at the *Daily Bugle!*
Seriously, I can't be the only one who'd wanna see it, True Believers?!
That would actually be good ngl
Better that than this.
Funny thing, Jameson is basically a caricature of Stan Lee and how he saw _himself_ as a harsh and sometimes unfair taskmaster to his employees. That kind of workplace environment and openness to criticism is why I'd assume he was good to work with, LOL
He's an entertaining guy and clips of him are often used in videos. He'd definitely be pulling numbers in film.'
Tbh I’d watch that.
From the Writer of;
Dracula Untold,
Last Witch Hunter
Gods of Egypt
And Morbius
Dracula untold was a masterpiece.
And whilst the gods of egypt was dumb, the overall story was decent.
As for Morbius, it's Morbius, the first movie to earn Morbillion dollars, need I say more?
Oof. That is one hell of a resume.
@@karanaher5030"Dracula untold" is a masterpiece the same way "The Room" is, as in so bad you can't stop laughing at it 😂
Never saw "Gods of Egypt" or "Morbius" and don't plan on it so no comment
@@frenchfry9370 Either way, a masterpiece is a masterpiece. In fact, I dare say madam web is also a masterpiece (though in the same way the room is one).
If they're trying to suck, congratulations. You win.
Madame Web is more than your average Marvel hero; she doesn't engage in physical battles but uses her clairvoyance and precognition to foresee the future and connect all spider-themed characters through the mystical Web of Life and Destiny. Essentially, she's the Marvel Universe's linchpin, akin to an internet router, critical yet complex to reset.
Turning her into a frontline hero misses the mark. Madame Web excels as the omniscient guide, similar to a modern oracle using a crystal ball instead of social media. Her true strength lies in her deep knowledge and the ability to see the bigger picture, making her an unparalleled strategist within the spider-verse, akin to a more mystical version of DC's Oracle.
Her depiction should reflect her unique role as the guiding seer, emphasizing her strategic importance rather than fitting her into a conventional heroic role.
This movie would have been better if it was written like the Flash movie, Groundhog day or Edge of Tomorrow (including a montage of several timeline of failures before she gets the hang of whats actually going on) (ofc ending with a return to the first shot of the movie and her knowing exactly how to solve it now).
Probably also using a whole roster of villains at once (so people can fail against one and have Madam Web send someoe else with a skillset that counters that specific villain).
@@SozIDontTHaveAName Next (2007) might have been a good template as well. Weirdly executed movie, but an interesting concept.
one thing to note is that the Sony PSP released in 2005, 2 years after this movie takes place. He could have been using a walkman. yet another thing that doesnt fit the time period in this movie
Yeah but he probably saw the future in a dream that he uploaded to the NSA so they could reverse engineer the PSP and make it for him, so it all checks out. It's fine.
Yeah I wondered if the PSP was even out in 2003
5:40 I can't believe that Sony forgot that they didn't release the PSP until 2005. 🤦♂️
I'm surprised there wasn't a 10 minute scene of the girls enjoying their PS5 on their 83in Sony OLED.
I am not, considering how quickly they discontinued both it and the Psvita because they weren't "successful enough" despite both handhelds being very popular in the asian regions back in the day espacially japan (also lets not even mention the horrible decision to make the memory cards for the psvita proprietery when you can just use a normal one with a 3ds). Soyny would probably legitimately be competing with nintendo switch in the handheld market right now if they weren't so stupid.
The 50 Shades of Gray books started off as Twilight fanfiction. If Robert Pattinson can claw his way out of Twilight into the man he is today, I got my fingers crossed for Dakota Johnson too. Especially knowing that she fired her agent after Madam Web cuz this isn't the start to her redemption arc.
But she's... not a good actress? Its not clawing her way out, she's always been bad?
@@palkinatorpeople claim she’s been good in a few films, notably Suspiria.
Really beautiful women don’t have to be great actresses. I think she’s really beautiful. Andie MacDowell has never been more than mediocre at best but she was a model originally and very pretty and has been adequate in otherwise good movies.
The difference between Robert and Dakota is that one is a good actor and has a good movie portfolio
She can take acting classes again. Let's be real beautiful people need only above average talent to be successful in Hollywood. Firing her manager is good start if she doesn't fumble it . Fingers crossed
@@markiangooley I would rather an actor have to be good at what they do than just be attractive. If they are both then more power to them, but I think it would be better for a movie's quality if they had good actors and actresses, not just attractive ones. I would settle for likeable actors, which when it comes to Dakota Johnson, I think sometimes she is, but I haven't seen many of her movies so I'm collecting from a very small sample size and I don't have any perception of her as a person although I don't feel any dislike towards her, although I don't get the sense that she has much charisma.
Again, I wouldn't know in all fairness. What I'm getting at is that some actors even if they aren't the best often get by on certain types of roles or on their own charisma or just likeability overall outside of their acting (Keanu Reeves is an example of this as he isn't the best or worst actor out there, but he is really good in stoic roles and is a super nice and charismatic guy as a person) but I never really thought of Dakota Johnson as a great actress or someone who stands out that much personality-wise outside of her movies other than being attractive, so there isn't much that really draws me to go see her movies.
I'm not trying to hate on her, I'm just saying that attractiveness shouldn't be all we expect from an actor or actress in order to go see their films. Also to be fair, a single performer no matter how capable isn't typically enough to carry a movie. It's a collaborative effort and although I haven't seen this movie, I think it's pretty obvious that the blame shouldn't be put squarely on any one actor's shoulders, including Johnson's. If anything, this movie seems to fail predominantly in the writing and directing, with the acting being a problem, but not the main one, and more so across the board, not just with its leading actor. As for Dakota's other work, I don't think of her as a good actor to my taste, but there have been much worse ones. I still would rather see a movie with good acting as opposed to pretty faces.
Finally a Possum Review! And Madame Web was first seen by me during the 90s animated series. She isn't a strong enough character to have her own solo series
Modern day female characters are not even likeable anymore. Like Sarah Conner was so amazing and relatable. One can understand that she's a mother, and fights to protect her son. But nowadays, the female characters are so garbage.
Ripley from Alien/Aliens was great too. Same for the original Lara Croft. Modern day female characters are awful now.
Anymore??
@steelmote Because it's popular. And they have tons of cash to burn.
From the way you guys talk, the only female characters ever were Sarah and Ripley. Small wonder the lefties want to add more.
@@YouWillBeHappyOrElse add more bad ones? good work lefties, we can see that.
Basically, the original Madam Webb was an old woman, voiced by Stan Lee's wife, on the old Spiderman cartoon. She served as the Dungeon Master of the old Dungeons and Dragons cartoons for most of it, giving cryptic advice and warnings. At the end she ends up to have been working with the Beyonder, a godlike interdimensional being, to test many alternate Spidermen, and make a group of them (that they decided would be led by the main cartoon one) to help fight a Peter that went crazy and was possessed by Carnage's symbionte, and that was threatening to destroy the multiverse itself. On the last episode she took him to meet Stan Lee and then to find Mary Jane, who had disappeared inside a portal for... a while. And that was the end of the show.
I don't know much about her in the comics, but she came from the cartoon. And was also just as old and cryptic there.
I love when madam web said with great power comes great sexual identity
What the fudge?
where did that come from
Bro what?
And then she exploded and webbed everything, my favorite part of the movie
This movie could've been improved with just even the slightest bit of sex.
i only ever saw her in the original amazing spiderman from the 90's, she was a foreteller ally to spiderman, also helped him connect with his alternate dimensional selves
How dare you! I knew about Madame Web from that Spider-Man cartoon!
Wish they used that version, would have been much more interesting
The amazing spiderman? I remember that too!
Same. Despite reading a lot of comics I legitimately didn't even know that she was from the comics until this movie got announced and I saw people bringing it up. Why would you make a movie about a character whose most iconic appearance was in a cartoon that ended 27 years ago?
@doctabaldhead a good movie can be made from it. If anything, The Lego Movie proved that a movie can be made about pretty much anything and be entertaining. However, Star Wars: The Force Awakens proves that you can have the entire road map to success laid out before you with step-by-step instructions on how to reach it and you can still botch everything up and leave the audience with a hot mess
@@clydewill2340 They should have begun with Madame webb already being old and crippled, not only because that is the most familiar version to anyone who even knows her, but also will potentially make people curious about how and why she continues doing what she does, idk, seems much of a better story than whatever they tried in this
People who didn't know about madame web: "who the he'll is madame web?"
People who knew about madame web: "why the hell would you make a movie about madame web?"
People who saw madame web: "what the hell was that crap"
I love that you use scenes and clips from other movies as filler, instead of just replaying the trailer over and over again like some youtubers.
Certain characters are created to supplement the A-list characters of their respective universe. Madame Web is not a character that can carry an entire film as the lead protagonist. She was created to supplement Spiderman's universe therefore she MUST be utilized in a Spiderman led film.
I could see her giving some advice to Venom, too, maybe Blade or Morbius, but yeah absolutely not headline her own film. She's got big "sage NPC" energy.
Sony PSP wasn't even released until late 2004/early 2005, so he couldn't have been playing one in 2003.
I should know, I had one of the first in Europe, because I bought it in Japan. Demand in Europe was crazy back then, I had mine for half a year and still sold it for a nice profit.
So a time traveling gamer???? AWESOME!
@@aSimpleTailor indeed, mr Garak, it's not a well tailored plot, so to speak...
Also, why would you use a crowbar to remove your plates? You just need a screw driver.
You seem to believe anyone involved with Hollywood has done a lick of honest labor in their lives.
Also, removing your plates would be more likely to call attention to you than having hot tags. People may glance over plates. They definitely notice a lack thereof
@thanatoast4389 it also wouldn't mean shit cause New york taxis had an emblem in bedded into the hood and identifies them
It’s complicated
A crowbar is faster
I love the Strong bad/ Teen Girl Squad reference in the video 😂. Thank you for your sacrifice, watching what sounds like a dumpster fire.
Arrowed!
@@GoodChris25 I hope they have these corn chips in heaven!
Also the Director said it's Not Canon to the Spiderless-Man Cinematic Universe.
Screw the MCU, use the Andrew Garfield Spider-Man!
@@autobotstarscream765I feel Andrew's too old at this rate (pretty sure he's almost 40). I do love him, though. He's probably my favourite actor to ever play the character (as much as I love the Raimi films, Andrew was definitely the better Peter). I wish that they'd made at least a third movie, as it would've been interesting to see what his life post-Gwen would've been like.
Spiderless-man.
Spider-Manless.
Spidermanless.
Uncle Ben is supposed to be an electrician... Sony is allergic to source material... and making good movies.
I vaguely remember this character from the 90's animated series where she occasionally appears.
Why did they decide to make a film on such an obscure and little known "hero" is anyone's guess.
Some people seem to think we don't need another reboot of a popular character (which is probably true), but we need more phoned in strong female character movies (probably wrong).
To be fair, Iron Man used to be some c-list hero until the RDJ films boosted his popularity. It's all about execution.
But too bad they got hacks to write Madam Web.
@@_V.Va_Still, Iron Man was in many popular games and animated series way before Marvel became so big.
4:52 Okay, so Madam Web is some weird entity that can bend time and had telepathy. I only had a single issue with her growing up, and all my info is from the 90s cartoon. Which became Canon. In the cartoon, she's a mentor to Spider-Man. Kinda like Raiden in the Mortal Kombat movie. She just gives advice, and she doesn't intervene directly. Towards the end, it was revealed that she was friends with The Beyonder, and they had a specific destiny for Spider-Man/Spider-Men.
The most funny part to me is the fact that Cassandra is born in the amazon so she probably don't have an American passport but okay somehow she got back, then she just goes to peru and comes back like its nothing in 2003 a post 911 America
Madame Web sounds like someone who'd solve problems by using predictions in clever and intricate ways. But the writers couldn't come up with anything for her to do but driving cars, self-cloning, and bloody CPR.
I heard that the actors had been told that this was an "MCU" movie, and even on set, were led to believe that they were basically working for the MCU. That would explain why some of these actors are in the movie, and why they're now pissed and trashing the movie (in addition to the movie just being bad).
I think Sony was forced to put the movie out in time in order to keep the copyright going, and that was the most important goal for them - just get it out in time. Everything else (whether it was any good, whether it made money) was secondary. Except now that it's such a huge flop, that may have spelled disaster for this part of the "universe" as a whole.
Sony still owns Spider-Man (and all of the characters related to him), I believe, but for right now, they're allowing Marvel to use Spider-Man in movies (and Sony gets paid like 50% of the gross). While Marvel is using Spider-Man, I don't think Sony can use him the same way, so they can only beat around the bush and make references to him. But I think as far as the Spider-Man characters are concerned, Sony has full ownership, technically. Marvel has just gotten temporary permission to use Spider-Man himself - though Marvel owned Spider-Man back in the day, and there's a possibility that they could sue to get back the rights now that all these Sony movies are flopping. If it's true that the actors were lied to, Marvel can sue and say that Sony is misrepresenting their movies and trying to muddy the waters between Sony/Marvel, and therefore Sony shouldn't have the rights anymore.
In the comics, Madame Web was a psychic who could see the "Web of Time" under the concept that there is no singular future that's guaranteed to happen, only possibilities that intertwine with the present like a spiderweb. However, her mind is so powerful her body is weak to the point where she cannot survive without a life support system, that which looks like a throne with a giant web behind it. In one comic, the Rhino is sent to kidnap her and she nearly dies since he removes her from her life support. Blind to the present right in front of her and unable to move on her own, she primarily acted as an advisor to Spiderman. That being said, she was not particularly connected to him through origin or powers.
Prehaps we treated Spider-Man 3 a little too harshly.
Spider-Man 3 was an enjoyable mess, certainly more earnest by comparison to this pile of trash
It's honestly ironic that you people whined about S-3 having 'too many villains' even though you clapped like deranged seals whenever a new character was haphazardly shoved into the MCU
@@jeremyallen5974 The MCU isn't much better. The comic book accuracy is dead.
@@jeremyallen5974
What now?
@@UnwantedGhost1-anz25
False.
The first time I heard about Madame Web,I legit thought it was some type of spy movie, until I saw the costumes,I was like "What.. What the heck is this?".
They already blaming evil men/patriarchy about its flop.
And I bet you, Kraven will also be a crap movie
I'm predicting Nerdrotic makes a joke along the lines of "Toxic feminists refuse to watch Kraven" and they start talking about how no its just a shit movie with absolutley no sense of irony at all.
@@stevenscott2718
What now?
@@dylansharp8471 Nerdorotic is a youtube that along with others, who likes to take the piss/review these shitty comicbook movies. He actualy coined the "Peter Parker is Spiderman, Miles Morales is Mile Morales" meme.
My predicticion is the loony lefty/feminists who assume that any women lead movie is disliked is because toxic males hate women or a black lead is 'racism' while ingoring any other critism.
I am predicticing that when Kraven (white or near white male character) comes out he or one of the other reviewers will make a joke about how toxic women just wouldn't watch it becasue well see what i've already written.
Now i've said that i have no idea who they cast as Kraven so i amend my predicton to If Kraven is played by a white man......
If he is played by a POC we will just be called racist again.
@@dylansharp8471 Just so you know i did reply to but i cant see it and i'm not typing it out again.
The PSP didn’t even come out until 2005
What’s very ironic about Madame Web’s obvious Pepsi product placement is the fact that one of Sony’s movie divisions-Columbia, was owned by its long-time rival soda company Coke during the early-to-mid 80s, but was then purchased by Sony in 1989 where it still stands today. Am I the only people who noticed this?
As far as I know Madame Web never had a backstory, she was just an old lady with weird powers who kinda sorta helped Peter with some very specific problems (Kinda like the magical counterpart to Dr. Connors), she was cool but not movie-worthy, they should have just had her show up in Holland's Spider-man 4 being his new Dr. Strange.
Sounds like the actual thing to explore with the content they advanced was the trauma someone would endure from seeing hundreds of terrible futures and constantly struggling to stay ahead of the threats.
especialy as how she 'sees' them she outright experiences them as reality, i can't speak for anyone else but i would almost immeadiatly start disassociating form reality because i wouldn't be able to tell what was real.
These mainstream 300mil movies are starting to look like Sci-Fi Channel made-for-TV movies. Actually, some Sci-Fi movies are at least entertainingly bad.
Lady Arachnidator: The Foresighted
I caught that teen girl squad reference, possum. Good call back
5:07 They had another friend named Cheerleader but she died in a sailing mishap
Not even Sydney Sweeney's bewbs could save this from being floppy..
Maybe Dakota Johnsons boxy ass might attract some viewers
She's so damn beautiful. I loved her in Under The Silver Lake. Hope she gets better roles in the future, as she's actually a decent actress.
Ezekiel Sims outfits as well as the outfits of the potential Spider-Women is straight outta the Arrowverse.
Why did goblin turn on the stove?
Obvs to light a building on fire to lure out Spiderman 😂
The Unknown from that Willy Wonka "experience" reminds me of that stove turning "Goblin." 😂
We’ll never know
Which movie was this first mentioned by the possum? 😂😂😂😂
@@irukandji89 it might’ve just been a movie called Goblin
5:35 also, the PSP was released in the US in 2005.
I feel like superhero roles don’t show the emotional range for a lot of people who play them.
That's because people think that simply because they're making a superhero movie it automatically means they don't have to try to actually give the characters growth or some sort of arc
@@jeremyallen5974Tbf they kinda didn't for the last few years. The talented ones like Robert downey jr, Chris evans, Scarlett johanssan and Chris hemsworth put all the hard work into creating the MCU brand and now the new talentless excuse of new actors think they can garner that same kind of respect and attention just by getting a superhero role in a marvel movie. Sadly for most of them, the gravy train has long ended ever since endgame (yes I know this is a soyny movie, i am just using the MCU as an example).
@@jeremyallen5974
What?
@@dragonandavatarfan8865
People really love overlooking the character arcs it actually seems.
And the train hasn't ended.
@dylansharp8471 , there are actors that don't take superhero roles seriously and believe they can half-ass their performance because superheroes are for children.
Yes I've heard this before, no I don't remember where.
From the moment this was announced, I knew it was gonna be bad. Not from it being a Sony Spiderman-adjacent film, but rather how the Hell do you make a movie based off of Madame Web?
Literally, what she does is guide and assist Spider-Man in certain cases and plays against the Beyonder in what's basically a game of Risk with superheroes and supervillains. She's a paralyzed and blind mutant that can see the future and possesses Telepathy that uses it to help uphold the fabric of reality and solve crime with Peter Parker. She's not really a direct-line crime fighter or fighter in general since she's old and crippled. Sure she can still fight with her telepathy and precognition, but a direct fight with anyone is not in her favor.
And especially worse when Ezekiel, another mentor and ally of Spider-Man, is the Tarantula. Like, the backstory is sorta similar, except that he's actually evil and not a jackass that does good stuff, but what was stopping them from using Morlun? The change sounds so stupid and pointless that it feels like they put effort into being lazy.
Anyone else getting Pepsi Man 2 vibes? This was the movie that was supposed to sell that game, they just made the blue jumpsuit into spider lady, here and hoped no one noticed because the game is behind schedule by a lot, so they gave Pepsi Man breasts, and called it good.
Pepsi for TV movie!
I only know of Madame Web because of the 90s Spiderma animated series. Outside of that one appearance there's a few points in the Spider-verse comics but she isn't interesting enough to make a movie about. She has the same problem with Venom being their character can't work without Spiderman. The only saving grace to this movie is we thankfully didn't get an Aunt May spy movie. Yes that was a thing Sony was talking about alongside a Silver Sable and Black Cat crossover back in 2018, not even making it up.
Btw, the psp was released in 2004, a year after when this movie took place
Sony failed to track when their own products come out for their product placement films
Didn’t except possum to cover this, thanks, always a lot of laughs.
Aight shout to the lil chungus mf who held out hope that it was gonna be good
That kind of optimism is what got us to the moon
And the kind of execution that led to the Challenger
@@myaldeade
Who?
@@dylansharp8471 the rocket that exploded
5:05 the teen girl squad reference here did not go missed and you are gold
Pornhub jokes 😂
A movie featuring Shocker would have been more interesting.
even one about Big Wheel hahaha
@@mikescorpio13 Ngl comic Big Wheel actually had an interesting character arc over his run... There is much more drive and character motivation already there to for any number of the Spiders rogues than Madam bloody web. MW is supposed to be a mysterious guiding figure to the various spider-men, not knowing who she really was or what here true goal/end game... Well was part of the fun.
I'd watch a Kite, or mothman movie before watching another slog like this. At least you could make fun of the obvious joke character MW is a side character to be respected... This is just cruel.
"Madame Web was then in a wheelchair looking out a window of her new apartment, even though she's blind." That got me good, haven't laughed that hard at a lil quip in ages.
Madam Web os supposed to be the supporting character for Spiderman and other spider token characters.
She should have been introduced in a Spiderverse movie.
It is insane to me that my video filmmaking professor watches this channel and recommended it in class.
Hi Scalia :)
The title says it all
This movie felt like a SyFy mockbuster of Spider-man, complete with the “barely-avoiding-copyright-looking” suit and the fact that the most recognizable character is the villain
Why don't you crack open your beverage right before you say the name of the movie anymore? I miss that.
The PSP didn't even exist in 2003, it was released in December '04!
Madame web not seeing her own death is canon
I busted out laughing when you dropped that Sealab 2021 reference. 😂
Madam Web I remember as a human plot device from the Spiderman animated series. One of the old gems from the 90’s. Back then she was just a cryptic grandma who summoned Peter to her private pocket dimension before sending him on plot centric missions to other dimensions that would result in Peter meeting alternate versions of himself or Spiderman.
Whenever Granny Webb showed up you knew the story was revving up to get complicated.
Beyond that she had no other relevance to the Marvel Universe that I’m aware of.
Her overall purpose seems to be as a supervisor for the spiderverse I think.
Other than her affinity for Tarot that’s about all I know about her. She never struck me as a heroic character so much as a supporting character for Spider Man.
They put a movie in their advertisement and thought we wouldn't notice
If im remembering right, i saw Madame Web in the 90s Spiderman cartoon, and even then she was helping stop some multiverse stuff and working with a bunch of different versions of spidrman.
Ooook...
so can anyone explain how a spider would impart all these abilities?
Are we sure it wasn't a magic pixie pretending to be a bug?
Kinda like the 80s Japanese Spiderman, who had that give him powers like X-Ray Vision too.
Star Ship Troopers. Great movie, but I’d like your take on it.
Thank you for weaving Kung POW!: Enter the Fist into this, that flick deserves so much more recognition.
Ever since i heard the words "Hi im a possum and i collct garbage"ive been in stitches rolling up every time my. guy uploads hes fkin hilarious!!
All the budget went into suits and CG that didn't even canonically get used because Pepsi Web changed the future and the girls learned nothing except CPR. 😂
"So-and-so, What's-her-Face and The Other One"- a Strong Bad reference, mayhaps?
Notably, there isn't a The _Ugly_ One, and this is modern Disney so their team doesn't have Cheerleader because that's "a harmful stereotype"
@@RoninCatholic I want an Ugly One, though! Where's my ugly representation, Hollywood?🤓
I lost it when she turned and kooked directly into the camera and said "It's webbin' time."
I like the part where she says, “With great Pepsi comes great responsibility.”
I was just watching a possum licking on an ice cream cone when I saw the notification.
"...baiting a sequel that will never happen, and then the movie ends."
I've been binge-watching these videos and I am jarred by how many times I have now heard you say these words in various ways.
“Then Constance dies, good for her”. Yes good for her she didn’t have to watch the entire movie unfold.
90's cartoon spiderman was the intro for me to the character. She was pretty much an interdimensional witch. It was pretty fun.
This movie is T R A S H
"I'm not the hero they need, I'm not the hero they wanted, but I 'm the hero they get" -Mad Man Weeb
I'm going to go see it tonight because my girl promised me some gawk gawk if I agreed to suffer through it. A small price to pay for glory.
There were ten other people in the theater with me because Seniors get in for free on Thursdays and half of them were asleep. They were the lucky ones.
This and you are the reason that I'm going to make a comic book series with zero time travel and only 1 universe. There's only one. Stuff affects other stuff in the universe but it all stays within that universe.
What’s it about?
I know Madame Web from that sick Spiderman game where you got to play as all the different Spider Men from other dimensions. I was excited cuz I thought we’d get a look at an older superhero character, but nah. We get…girl…
Sony: We'll literally have your logo crush the bad guy for a few million dollars.
Pepsi: Really? Awesome!
this is the only way i can watch movies these days. by just tearing them apart, scene by scene 😂 thanks for the video
Haha what a reference to TEEN GIRL SQUAD 🤣. my man take my patreon monies