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RedHawk: _Complains about not being able to take enough provinces in wars_ Also RedHawk: _Has a bunch of spare diplo points_ Also also RedHawk: _Doesn't take diplo ideas_
@@jackconrad4814 yeah just be careful I didn't have any problems with rebels with humanist offensive filled out but after diplo I was sitting at 300% OE
This video would have been better if it had throat singing. Can you imagine THE RED HAWK croaking like that? He wouldn't be good at it and that would make it even more entertaining.
The first time you razed stuff, I was thinking that the game really needs a "raze all" button, cause it also annoys me having to click on every single province to do it.
I understand why you took humanist because if anyone remembers the Chagatai A-Z then you'll understand, its so traumatic for hawk he doesn't even remember it I've never seen so much rebels before it was crazy.
I don't like how steppe warfare is either, it boils down to carpet siege rushes by the AI. The new world with the tribal land system might be good to implement on the steppe, reducing the number of settled provinces means that steppe soldiers will be bleeding each other dry rather than rushing for provinces. That would be an interesting mod.
Hawk, the reason you always have manpower issues is because attrition is killing your armies. Your stacks are way too big. Your full army should be split in two, three or fours. Then have them move next to each other. That way you can siege faster. And if there is a battle then just gather your armies, which should be nearby. Follow the logistics cap, it's usually something like 20,30,40 and so on as you get techs.
Yeah this is one of those things you know you CAN do but most don’t bother cause it’s just not worth the micro against bots. It’s just a dumb mechanic overall considering the AI is almost completely unaffected by it but at the same time you’ll lose almost every time unless you have a full back line of cannons, which is almost always going to be 2x or more over the supply limit.
If I'm not mistaken "Z" is the shortkey for razing so instead of clicking the button everytime to raze once you clicked on the province you can use "Z" and "C" combo to utilize the shortcuts. It's way easier and quite helpful for any horde nation.
Watching this after having tried to play as Mongolia myself, I realise just how skilled Red Hawk is at the game and how much is still have to learn about the game
Man that's so painful, when I tried to do a mongol empire run I stupidly took the mandate of heaven, messed around with religion and never took humanist ideas so I spent half of the time fighting rebels and by the 1600s I lagged way too behind in tech and I just ditched it, solid game you played :), def learned a few things
In normal dificulty so far I use to Leeroy Jenkins Oirat by myself. You can beat their armies one by one and soon enough Ming declares on Oirat. Usually Oirat will either have no allies or just Sarig Yoqir.
As soon as I saw the Ottomans took Offensive and Quality I had a brain aneurysm on your behalf RedHawk, I don't think I've ever seen such a disgustingly powerful Ottomans in any of my games
Even though it definitely looked like a painful run, it was still very cool seeing the Mongol Empire formed. With a lot of these A to Z videos, I wonder how history would have been affected at the end of the challenges. Especially given by the end large amounts of territories were consumed into the Empire, including all of modern day China. Also curious how sustainable this empire would be given it's government by the end of the video (with Humanist/Administrative/Quanity/Quality/etc).
I've only ever formed the Mongol Empire as the Teutons, and that was probably less of a pain then this(since your armies as the Teutonic Horde are just invincible) but was still painful. Just sooo many provinces to seige and take from so many opponents.
I love the videos when you do stuff noone else does like the "As Bayreuth form Italy" Video. So as Montferrat you should try to form an moslem Great Britain.
Ming blows up through the event "Crisis of the Ming Dynasty", which can only fire if there is no other disaster. Since Ming had "Unguarded Nomadic Frontiers" the whole time it never blew up. Also, you can avoid the stab hit from breaking tributary by refusing to pay tribute a few times, Ming will break it on their own.
Wish you had restored the Roman Empire as Byzantium back in season B. Bringing the Romans back to their former glory would have been fun. Looking forward to whenever you do that! I wonder if you can be quicker than you were for the Mongols
>conquers all of china >crushes massive superpowers like ottomans, CW, muscovy, timurids >restores mongol people and culture as unquestioned supreme power of eurasia >3rd place
I find hordes tiring as well. Gunning for Khaaaan was the campaign which drained me the most even starting as Oirat. Achieved it and never touched the save again
My first game ever after the tutorial thing was Mongolia without the DLC didn’t get anywhere…so I subscribed to the dlc package. Whenever I play as Manchu and constantly beat up Ming they don’t blow up either. I was hoping that would change with this update.
Best thing to make Ming explode, have of 300 dev(triggers unguarded frontier) and then when at war with Ming, force occupy their territory for a long tiem to cause a ton of devastation(lowers their mandated) and then DEFINITELY occupy *at least* 2 of the 3 key provinces - Beijing, Nanjing, and Canton(lowers mandate for each one they don't control or own). I've been able to successfully nuke Ming every game in the first war, so long as I can do that. Normally I occupy all of Northern China, including Beijing and Nanjing. Sometimes I go further, depending on how well I'm doing financially/militarily; sometimes it's better to just halt in the north, where you can more easily defend if you're too weak to push further
Funny seeing Haw forming the mongol empire right after I have done the same but as the Teutons. Took me about 70 more years because Korea was allied to everyone and had very strong armies.
still think it would be really interesting if when you did a big nation, to increase the challenge you did like no allies or loans since those make the game WAY easier
I played Great Horde and formed Mongol Empire before. I was trying to get the KHAAAAAAN achievement. Although I got it at last, but it was stressful...Since the AI always target the player: The Turks always tried to screwed me and the Ming didn't explode like the 90% of time it did Sometime, playing this game is really painful :-(
I love playing mongolia. One of my go to campaigns (Like Brandenburg into prussia, or granafa into andalusia, or byzantium) if i dont know what to play :D
I've got a world conquest which has been "in progress" for almost a year now. I've never really done much with hordes so I decided to do a WC with Oirat, without switching tags and staying a horde the entire time. I'm now at the point where I keep alternating chipping away at the Commonwealth with chipping away at the Ottomans. I've learned a lot but it has gotten sufficiently tedious that I can only bring myself to play it for a couple of hours once every few weeks.
After such a hard goal for Montferrat, I'd propose something much chiller : colonize the West Antilles, relocate your capital to Montserrat (with an S), and making it the most developped city in the world.
When I first switched to EU4 some 2500 hours ago, Mongolia was my first playthrough😂. I was a civ 5 player thinking that "oh the mongols must be OP, should be an easy nation for beginners." Oh how wrong I was lmao
Just a little tip, if you dont know it, you dont need to cancel tributary and loose the stab. Yoy can just refuse giving them the tribute they want a few times. Then they will break it and loose stab.
According to Wikipedia, Montferrat is one of the most important wine-producing areas in Italy. Why not a goal of owning over half of Europe's wine provinces, and/or becoming the world's leading producer of wine?
Funny timing I actually just got the khan achievement with oirat, which seems a lot easier than Mongolia, since you can declare on Ming and get tons of money right away. Must say I also hate how your economy as a horde always garbage until very late when you can earn a lot from trade
I don't terribly mind steppe warfare. Usually you end up just stating the high dev Ming or European provinces. You can get away with letting a lot of your unstated land be sieged out as long as you do it faster and just beat back the occasional flanking army with a reserve army. Actually microing loot is the most annoying thing imo.
if you don't like micro, you can just turn on auto siege on most armies and manuever just a couple. the auto siege got changed at some point that you no longer need to select provinces like supress rebels. just click auto siege and you're good to go, and they'll just leisurely waltz through the enemy provinces
@@RightCorrections yeah it also means you have to take horde ideas as oirat for example taking diplo,adm or humanist is wayyyy more important than horde ideas
As a horde it's better to delay teching up the military technology as much as possible because when you get a higher mil tech, you get less mana and money from razing.
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Well Hawk it's obvious what you do as Montferrat, you have to restore Byzantium, because you have a Palaiologos on the throne.
I can't imagine any other goal
Yep it’s this
Bonus marks for converting Rome to Orthodox.
hopefully burgundy wont take him on a million war side quests lol
…while being Sunni.
Timur : I'm the prestigious heir of Genghis Khan and will restore the Mongol empire !
Bald streamer in 2023 :
> Razes everything
> has no dev
> "Why?!"
As a Mongol i am glad that he plays as Mongolia first time in EU4
wassup fellow mongol
Genghis khan descendant
You should see my Mongolian empire, formed in 1580 w/ good economy
y u lying mongols are like elves dey dont exist
Mongols are based just by existing
RedHawk: _Complains about not being able to take enough provinces in wars_
Also RedHawk: _Has a bunch of spare diplo points_
Also also RedHawk: _Doesn't take diplo ideas_
Yup, at the end (40:20) he acknowledged that he should have taken diplo ideas.
Tbf it’s such a wild oxymoron that diplo is such an A tier idea group for hordes, the warAlwaysTM nations
@@jackconrad4814 yeah just be careful I didn't have any problems with rebels with humanist offensive filled out but after diplo I was sitting at 300% OE
@@jackconrad4814War is just an extension of diplomacy
This video would have been better if it had throat singing. Can you imagine THE RED HAWK croaking like that? He wouldn't be good at it and that would make it even more entertaining.
The first time you razed stuff, I was thinking that the game really needs a "raze all" button, cause it also annoys me having to click on every single province to do it.
Use the shortcut Z
definitely in the state view near the concentrate button
@@goawayrayy That razes one state. I want to click one button and raze every province that is possible, like you can do with cores now
would be efficient@@Quadrophiniac
@@amerashi1111for some reason, that never works for me, any ideas why?
I understand why you took humanist because if anyone remembers the Chagatai A-Z then you'll understand, its so traumatic for hawk he doesn't even remember it I've never seen so much rebels before it was crazy.
I love recent more ambitious goals for A to Z
I have never felt so conflicted watching a Hawk video - I loved watching you expand but felt the pain too.
Finally Mongolia 🇲🇳
I don't like how steppe warfare is either, it boils down to carpet siege rushes by the AI. The new world with the tribal land system might be good to implement on the steppe, reducing the number of settled provinces means that steppe soldiers will be bleeding each other dry rather than rushing for provinces. That would be an interesting mod.
Hawk, the reason you always have manpower issues is because attrition is killing your armies. Your stacks are way too big. Your full army should be split in two, three or fours. Then have them move next to each other. That way you can siege faster. And if there is a battle then just gather your armies, which should be nearby. Follow the logistics cap, it's usually something like 20,30,40 and so on as you get techs.
I suppose he knows this, but after 150 years he's just too bored for micromanagement and does not care at all
Yeah this is one of those things you know you CAN do but most don’t bother cause it’s just not worth the micro against bots. It’s just a dumb mechanic overall considering the AI is almost completely unaffected by it but at the same time you’ll lose almost every time unless you have a full back line of cannons, which is almost always going to be 2x or more over the supply limit.
Way more fun to stack land attrition reduction
tru that
@@milan-px5uq
I played Mongolia once, I recreated the Yuan Dynasty and tried the best I could to recreate the modern borders of China (with Korea as a bonus).
If I'm not mistaken "Z" is the shortkey for razing so instead of clicking the button everytime to raze once you clicked on the province you can use "Z" and "C" combo to utilize the shortcuts. It's way easier and quite helpful for any horde nation.
So good to see Red Hawk play a game into mid game time... ❤❤❤
Watching this after having tried to play as Mongolia myself, I realise just how skilled Red Hawk is at the game and how much is still have to learn about the game
Major A-Z W moment, thanks for the solid entertainment Hawk!
42 minutes red hawk video, this is a true masterpiece!❤
Man that's so painful, when I tried to do a mongol empire run I stupidly took the mandate of heaven, messed around with religion and never took humanist ideas so I spent half of the time fighting rebels and by the 1600s I lagged way too behind in tech and I just ditched it, solid game you played :), def learned a few things
In normal dificulty so far I use to Leeroy Jenkins Oirat by myself. You can beat their armies one by one and soon enough Ming declares on Oirat. Usually Oirat will either have no allies or just Sarig Yoqir.
As soon as I saw the Ottomans took Offensive and Quality I had a brain aneurysm on your behalf RedHawk, I don't think I've ever seen such a disgustingly powerful Ottomans in any of my games
I agree with you, microing the armies is a chore.
Should just be a button to let the AI play your armies.
Awesome. I thought we weren't going to see you form the Mongol Empire, but here it is. Genghis Khan would be proud.
You were 1 truce break away with the Ottos for the KHAAAN achiev, regardless painfully beatiful campaign :)
40 minutes video, this is such a bliss
38:30 dude decided to form the Roman empire off of this conquest
Nice going, Genghis!
I bet that will last a long **TIME**
Waited so long for it
I appreciate the struggle you were willing to go through for this one lol 😂
Mongolia is one of my favorite nations to play as. Especially this patch, you can easily expand into China.
Even though it definitely looked like a painful run, it was still very cool seeing the Mongol Empire formed. With a lot of these A to Z videos, I wonder how history would have been affected at the end of the challenges. Especially given by the end large amounts of territories were consumed into the Empire, including all of modern day China. Also curious how sustainable this empire would be given it's government by the end of the video (with Humanist/Administrative/Quanity/Quality/etc).
Very satisfying to watch barring the wastelands lol. You should restore Byzantium as montefarat.
I've only ever formed the Mongol Empire as the Teutons, and that was probably less of a pain then this(since your armies as the Teutonic Horde are just invincible) but was still painful. Just sooo many provinces to seige and take from so many opponents.
I love the videos when you do stuff noone else does like the "As Bayreuth form Italy" Video.
So as Montferrat you should try to form an moslem Great Britain.
As Montferrat form Byzantium (a unique decision to Monteferrat). Also loved the Mongol vid
Ming blows up through the event "Crisis of the Ming Dynasty", which can only fire if there is no other disaster. Since Ming had "Unguarded Nomadic Frontiers" the whole time it never blew up.
Also, you can avoid the stab hit from breaking tributary by refusing to pay tribute a few times, Ming will break it on their own.
you inspired me to try out Mongolia(usually start as Oirats), managed to get Khaaaan with 60 months to go. :)
Wish you had restored the Roman Empire as Byzantium back in season B. Bringing the Romans back to their former glory would have been fun. Looking forward to whenever you do that! I wonder if you can be quicker than you were for the Mongols
Thanks bro for this content! And congrats for the Mongol empire, it's beyond my patience 😂
>conquers all of china
>crushes massive superpowers like ottomans, CW, muscovy, timurids
>restores mongol people and culture as unquestioned supreme power of eurasia
>3rd place
I find hordes tiring as well. Gunning for Khaaaan was the campaign which drained me the most even starting as Oirat. Achieved it and never touched the save again
Dang bro. Soooooooooo close to the KHAAAAAAAAn achievement
My first game ever after the tutorial thing was Mongolia without the DLC didn’t get anywhere…so I subscribed to the dlc package. Whenever I play as Manchu and constantly beat up Ming they don’t blow up either. I was hoping that would change with this update.
When you say “Beat up Ming” what are you actually doing. Just beating their troops is not enough to force the explosion
Best thing to make Ming explode, have of 300 dev(triggers unguarded frontier) and then when at war with Ming, force occupy their territory for a long tiem to cause a ton of devastation(lowers their mandated) and then DEFINITELY occupy *at least* 2 of the 3 key provinces - Beijing, Nanjing, and Canton(lowers mandate for each one they don't control or own). I've been able to successfully nuke Ming every game in the first war, so long as I can do that. Normally I occupy all of Northern China, including Beijing and Nanjing. Sometimes I go further, depending on how well I'm doing financially/militarily; sometimes it's better to just halt in the north, where you can more easily defend if you're too weak to push further
RedHawk: "And I'm happy to say I will never do it again"
*Gets to Oirat*
RedHawk: 😲😧☹️
It would've been a good idea to get diplo ideas for - 20% province war score cost. It would've saved you a few unnecessary wars
Funny seeing Haw forming the mongol empire right after I have done the same but as the Teutons. Took me about 70 more years because Korea was allied to everyone and had very strong armies.
Hawk, thank you. You are my Inspiration..
still think it would be really interesting if when you did a big nation, to increase the challenge you did like no allies or loans since those make the game WAY easier
Congratulations on achieving your Mon-goal as Mongol.
For Monferrat, conquer some Mon provinces.
Hey, were you the stuntmen double for Jim Carrey in Sonic?
i havent watched you in months so you can imagine my suprise when i saw your bald head and magnificent mustache
Average mongol experience
You can actually get ming to support your independence. You have to time it well so you can get it before ming declares for a tribute on oirat though.
I played Great Horde and formed Mongol Empire before. I was trying to get the KHAAAAAAN achievement. Although I got it at last, but it was stressful...Since the AI always target the player: The Turks always tried to screwed me and the Ming didn't explode like the 90% of time it did
Sometime, playing this game is really painful :-(
For the Ming, as a horde you need to not have thruce/tributary with them and their disaster will fire
I love playing mongolia. One of my go to campaigns (Like Brandenburg into prussia, or granafa into andalusia, or byzantium) if i dont know what to play :D
Could you try out the Victorum Universalis MERGED mod?
I've got a world conquest which has been "in progress" for almost a year now. I've never really done much with hordes so I decided to do a WC with Oirat, without switching tags and staying a horde the entire time. I'm now at the point where I keep alternating chipping away at the Commonwealth with chipping away at the Ottomans. I've learned a lot but it has gotten sufficiently tedious that I can only bring myself to play it for a couple of hours once every few weeks.
I still demand conquering Italian peninsula as Montferrat and kicking America's ass as Italian boot.
Insted of admin you should have gone for diplo for the province warscore cost
Nice !
After such a hard goal for Montferrat, I'd propose something much chiller : colonize the West Antilles, relocate your capital to Montserrat (with an S), and making it the most developped city in the world.
Well done think I'm the same as you, as I've never made the big Nations like the Mongol empire, Roman Empire or the Islamic caliphate.
I can’t believe he mixed in infantry with a nation above 100% cav ratio and such cheap horses
When I first switched to EU4 some 2500 hours ago, Mongolia was my first playthrough😂. I was a civ 5 player thinking that "oh the mongols must be OP, should be an easy nation for beginners." Oh how wrong I was lmao
Just a little tip, if you dont know it, you dont need to cancel tributary and loose the stab. Yoy can just refuse giving them the tribute they want a few times. Then they will break it and loose stab.
I’m so glad I’m not the only guy who calls it Saggy Yoghurt
love the vids but how do you so easily win wars when youre outnumbered almost 2 to 1?
Choosing to not take cash from ming hurts. The truce isn't that long ㅠㅠ. Thanks for another great video
Shoutout to korea for surviving entire game
That was the most stable Ming I’ve seen in a while.
According to Wikipedia, Montferrat is one of the most important wine-producing areas in Italy. Why not a goal of owning over half of Europe's wine provinces, and/or becoming the world's leading producer of wine?
The fact that you are not taking max money while not 100%ing or full annexing disturbs me more than it should
If you were Ludi you would have been able to full annex Uzbek in one war 😉
Funny timing I actually just got the khan achievement with oirat, which seems a lot easier than Mongolia, since you can declare on Ming and get tons of money right away. Must say I also hate how your economy as a horde always garbage until very late when you can earn a lot from trade
maybe if you would take diplo idea it would have speed up the proces because of the 20% province war score cost reduction
Reform Byzantium
Reform Byzantium
Reform Byzantium
Reform Byzantium
Reform Byzantium
Byzaboos strikes back
@@Rosemarie_and_tomato Nah, I'm just a sadist who enjoys watching Hawk in pain lol
I'll now burst in laughter randomly at night thinking of saggy yoghurt 🤣
I don't terribly mind steppe warfare. Usually you end up just stating the high dev Ming or European provinces. You can get away with letting a lot of your unstated land be sieged out as long as you do it faster and just beat back the occasional flanking army with a reserve army.
Actually microing loot is the most annoying thing imo.
You should’ve taken dip for warscore cost for less pain, but alas^^;
if you don't like micro, you can just turn on auto siege on most armies and manuever just a couple. the auto siege got changed at some point that you no longer need to select provinces like supress rebels. just click auto siege and you're good to go, and they'll just leisurely waltz through the enemy provinces
Hawk, are you ok? Dont you need a little rest? Are you still having fun?
8:53 Building infantry as a horde 😭
Very well done, man. I feel a little sorry for you - you obviously did not enjoy this game. It was educational though :-)
*razes all provinces* --> "why is my dev so low?"
noooo you were co close to the khaaaaaan achievement
Ajam exists, must fix bug. -Red Hawk
What army composition is the best for horde? 100% cav is way too expensive
old comment but best is no cav at all, more infantry is always better than cav, and the investment to make cav good as a horde isn't worth it
@@BobbiusRossius i think you might be right sadly... its very hard to keep up cav :(
@@RightCorrections yeah it also means you have to take horde ideas as oirat for example taking diplo,adm or humanist is wayyyy more important than horde ideas
well, you just know now that the last country in the A to Z will have to be a WC now x)
As a horde it's better to delay teching up the military technology as much as possible because when you get a higher mil tech, you get less mana and money from razing.
Will you play Victorum Universalis mod?
Should have taken diplomatic for -warscore cost
How do you that carpet sieging thing?
Becoming Ming tributary as a hord💀
38:30 forming the what? The roman empire? 😂
Gg hawk khan
Korea and Japan must have been terrified and confused at the same time.
There's just one thing to do as Montferrat - forth Byzantium and reform Roman empire
Also Z is the shortcut for raze