Taraval St was the first commercial corridor I recognized and frequented often as an SF state student. It had a certain identity that kept me coming back. I’m excited to see how this train continues to vitalize this street and bring some joy to the neighborhood.
I grew up using this in the 90s and love to see the improvements even though I'm no longer in SF. Hope this spurs residential growth so I could afford to move back one day!
It can already run PCC streetcars with no issues on the surface sections of the L-M. Muni proposed this type of non-subway local service but the local residents didn't want it.
Pretty sure that’s how they do it with Torontos streetcar, which should not be the case. People shouldn’t have to walk into traffic when getting off a train or bus
@@louisjohnson3755 half the stops on the queen streetcar are just out in the middle of traffic. it's not that infrequent for a car to drive by a streetcar with its doors opening and the streetcar driver honks at it
This PR crap (which cost us all more money) fails to mention the Taraval businesses that went under during the half decade closure, the remaining business that continue to suffer due to parking impacts (because supplies need trucks, and not everything fits in a backpack), and the residents who can't exit their driveways because the buildouts were planned poorly. Also, no mention of the family of four that was crushed while waiting in a temporary spot because the construction took so long, while SFMTA refuses to use all the room in the WP station horseshoe. No mention of how the West Portal tunnel is going to fail seismically due to lack of reinforcement, and the fact that the software used to manage one of the largest metro transit systems in the US is based on programming from a different millennium. No mention of why SFMTA staff keep their jobs when they can't manage a budget - I guess things are different when you are not a private company? Please SFMTA, manage your own accountability better by not continuing to propagate the Hobson's choice fiction that service cuts or fare increases are the only solutions to your counting problems - those two solutions both make the public accountable for SFMTA decisions. Instead, SFMTA should just ask for a reasonable budget, and then stick to it - if they can't do that then their management has demonstrated a lack of skill, and needs a pay cut and/or staff reduction as part of the following budget cycle. Simple. THAT is real accountability, instead of putting the poor management on the public's shoulders, while spending more money on ridiculous puff pieces. Maybe you should make a video about the cable cars - have you heard of those . . . ? abc7news.com/post/sfmta-considers-suspending-iconic-cable-cars-amid-catastrophic-budget-deficit/15546520/
weird choice to say ramps are for "walking aids and strollers" but not wheelchairs. You should also clarify those with disabilities always receive preference for boarding, elevators, seating and wheelchair spots even if a stroller arrived first
The number of cars speeding down Taraval, zig zagging in and out at every intersection, and the blind spots at every intersection crest sure isn't making the strip any safer. Let's not discount all the double parkers and mail trucks that are parked in red zones by the post office further narrowing the traffic lanes. Nothing short of a disaster waiting to happen. Let's see how many accidents will occur now.
I agree with your first sentence strongly. But they also need to manage their own accountability better by not continuing to propagate the Hobson's choice fiction that service cuts or fare increases are the only solutions - those two solutions both make the public accountable for SFMTA decisions. Instead, SFMTA should just ask for a reasonable budget, and then stick to it - if they can't do that then their management has demonstrated a lack of skill, and needs a pay cut and/or staff reduction as part of the following budget cycle. Simple. THAT is real accountability, instead of putting the poor management on the public's shoulders.
@@jrxtrcIt is on the high side. It comes to 27 million a mile which includes replacement of 5.7 miles of sewer and 4 miles of new water line If I remember right from the video. Rebuilding the street at least in the center where the tracks are, down to 10’ deep. They didn’t just plop down new rail and re pave the street, they had to engineer a whole new rail bed with compacted rock to engineered specifications which is something they really didn’t do so much when it was first built. And remember these are sand dunes which is why it cost more to do all this. There might be some Graft, but I think it’s mostly the long convoluted process to get anything done like this anymore that goes through most of the money. As for what you can get for 90 million, for comparison, that’s the cost of 3 brand new Gulfstream 550 Business jets. Another comparison might be the 14.6 Billion dollar budget for the City of SF. By that measure 90 million is peanuts. The US Defense Department Budget is close to 1 Trillion a year these days. So I wouldn’t get too uptight about it. It’s a nice improvement that should last 100 years. I think they need to go the next step and put a signal in at every block and give priority to the train, and a step further would be to have an L train express that skips a few stops.
Adding more driving lanes to a road always leads to more traffic on that road due to induced demand - while making cities more dangerous, dirty, and inhospitable, leading to loss for businesses.
@@blakeclark5898 sensationalism aside, San Francisco is not a very safe city, this is obvious for anyone visiting or living there though it's probably better than Chicago or New York
Taraval St was the first commercial corridor I recognized and frequented often as an SF state student. It had a certain identity that kept me coming back. I’m excited to see how this train continues to vitalize this street and bring some joy to the neighborhood.
I love the new pedestrian beacons to make it easier to cross the street from the stop! Thanks for all the work you do SFMTA!
These are exciting upgrades, and even more exciting is no cost overruns!
Great job - looks good.
I grew up using this in the 90s and love to see the improvements even though I'm no longer in SF. Hope this spurs residential growth so I could afford to move back one day!
Im so happy it open again!!!
This looks so good!!! Glad to have it back.
This will help save the city .
Thanks for the video Muni
Awesome 🎉
Looks great. You should outline where it is on a map in the first few moments
I hope this really does improve the city
I’m very excited about L train reopened! Everything looks great. This is a long term investment in our Parkside community!!!
This looks great imo Judah street should of been first I'm jealous
It would be awesome if you could make this line pcc compatible
What is PCC?
What's stopping them? The overhead wire couplers?
It can already run PCC streetcars with no issues on the surface sections of the L-M. Muni proposed this type of non-subway local service but the local residents didn't want it.
The buildings along the corridor are so short for such heavy transit investment. I don't understand San Francisco.
They really had people walk out into traffic on Taraval where there are stop signs every 2 blocks to get on board the L? That's crazy
Pretty sure that’s how they do it with Torontos streetcar, which should not be the case. People shouldn’t have to walk into traffic when getting off a train or bus
@@louisjohnson3755 half the stops on the queen streetcar are just out in the middle of traffic. it's not that infrequent for a car to drive by a streetcar with its doors opening and the streetcar driver honks at it
Thank you Muni!
No level boarding and no barrier between light rail and cars are pretty major oversights.
100%. Most of these stations are completely flush with vehicle roads - a disaster waiting to happen.
Not true
is that James Fr
i like how a san franciscan will just know its a 3.4
Earthquake or Muni, … ha ha, 😂😂😂
The old Breada cars were too heavy and caused a lot of street and building damage. The new Siemens trains are much lighter -- and quieter.
But was it worth the ~5y wait?
Yes!
This PR crap (which cost us all more money) fails to mention the Taraval businesses that went under during the half decade closure, the remaining business that continue to suffer due to parking impacts (because supplies need trucks, and not everything fits in a backpack), and the residents who can't exit their driveways because the buildouts were planned poorly. Also, no mention of the family of four that was crushed while waiting in a temporary spot because the construction took so long, while SFMTA refuses to use all the room in the WP station horseshoe. No mention of how the West Portal tunnel is going to fail seismically due to lack of reinforcement, and the fact that the software used to manage one of the largest metro transit systems in the US is based on programming from a different millennium. No mention of why SFMTA staff keep their jobs when they can't manage a budget - I guess things are different when you are not a private company? Please SFMTA, manage your own accountability better by not continuing to propagate the Hobson's choice fiction that service cuts or fare increases are the only solutions to your counting problems - those two solutions both make the public accountable for SFMTA decisions. Instead, SFMTA should just ask for a reasonable budget, and then stick to it - if they can't do that then their management has demonstrated a lack of skill, and needs a pay cut and/or staff reduction as part of the following budget cycle. Simple. THAT is real accountability, instead of putting the poor management on the public's shoulders, while spending more money on ridiculous puff pieces. Maybe you should make a video about the cable cars - have you heard of those . . . ? abc7news.com/post/sfmta-considers-suspending-iconic-cable-cars-amid-catastrophic-budget-deficit/15546520/
weird choice to say ramps are for "walking aids and strollers" but not wheelchairs. You should also clarify those with disabilities always receive preference for boarding, elevators, seating and wheelchair spots even if a stroller arrived first
The number of cars speeding down Taraval, zig zagging in and out at every intersection, and the blind spots at every intersection crest sure isn't making the strip any safer. Let's not discount all the double parkers and mail trucks that are parked in red zones by the post office further narrowing the traffic lanes. Nothing short of a disaster waiting to happen. Let's see how many accidents will occur now.
SFMTA needs to manage their expenses better. Cut service before asking for more money.
I agree with your first sentence strongly. But they also need to manage their own accountability better by not continuing to propagate the Hobson's choice fiction that service cuts or fare increases are the only solutions - those two solutions both make the public accountable for SFMTA decisions. Instead, SFMTA should just ask for a reasonable budget, and then stick to it - if they can't do that then their management has demonstrated a lack of skill, and needs a pay cut and/or staff reduction as part of the following budget cycle. Simple. THAT is real accountability, instead of putting the poor management on the public's shoulders.
You spent $90M over 5 years!!!! This was graft!!!! No way should this have cost $90M and take 5 years to complete!!! Nice PR video.
You mean grift?
Includes sewer, rail, power, safety improvements. Whole lot cheaper than doing all those needed improvements staggered.
@ Again, $90M!!! It shouldn’t have cost that much!
@@jrxtrcIt is on the high side. It comes to 27 million a mile which includes replacement of 5.7 miles of sewer and 4 miles of new water line If I remember right from the video. Rebuilding the street at least in the center where the tracks are, down to 10’ deep. They didn’t just plop down new rail and re pave the street, they had to engineer a whole new rail bed with compacted rock to engineered specifications which is something they really didn’t do so much when it was first built. And remember these are sand dunes which is why it cost more to do all this. There might be some Graft, but I think it’s mostly the long convoluted process to get anything done like this anymore that goes through most of the money.
As for what you can get for 90 million, for comparison, that’s the cost of 3 brand new Gulfstream 550 Business jets. Another comparison might be the 14.6 Billion dollar budget for the City of SF. By that measure 90 million is peanuts. The US Defense Department Budget is close to 1 Trillion a year these days.
So I wouldn’t get too uptight about it. It’s a nice improvement that should last 100 years. I think they need to go the next step and put a signal in at every block and give priority to the train, and a step further would be to have an L train express that skips a few stops.
"Forget it, Jake-- it's Frisco Town..."
needs more parking and driving lanes, urban planners are always one lane way from solving all traffic problems
Adding more driving lanes to a road always leads to more traffic on that road due to induced demand - while making cities more dangerous, dirty, and inhospitable, leading to loss for businesses.
@@andreirachko just one more lane bro
@@UnReal31337 damn, my apologies, I mistakenly thought you were unironically wishing for more lanes and parking in your comment 😅
Safer in San Fran? I don’t think those 2 words go with each other any more
Clearly you don't live here in "San Fran", why don't you do something more productive with your time.
Only if your TV is stuck on fox “news”
@@blakeclark5898 sensationalism aside, San Francisco is not a very safe city, this is obvious for anyone visiting or living there though it's probably better than Chicago or New York
This city is crimes statistics is down 35%. This is available on SFPD‘s WEBSITE
It’s comparable most major cities. Come see it yourself. and we don’t call San Francisco San Fran…