No spin knife throwing tutorial
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ก.ย. 2024
- 1:15 Grip
2:35 Slide technic
5:36 Release
8:04 Adjustment
9:51 How to throw
15:36 Adjustment
17:40 Mechanic tips
23:38 One technic for any distance
24:18 Power
26:59 Indexfinger
30:01 Fedin grip
34:47 Finnish grip
40:28 Grips compared
42:25 Mechanics
45:47 Mechanics
51:33 Example throws with Fedin and finnish grip
52:53 Skanf technic
54:00 Knives
58:06 Ending
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German instructors are so methodical. They cover all the angles. I've very rarely had to question a German for clarification, because it has already been covered.
Love this tutorial. Everything needed is explained. Those with natural talent can become great, and those who are average can become relatively good.
Thanks mate.
Thank you for that comment
Absolutely agree. This was precisely what I needed to learn this from complete novice to competent in a very short time.
Beautifully explained
Like a whip. Listen to this guy. You won't get better instruction anywhere
This video will never gets old even after 1000 years. This is gold tutorial.
:) Thank you
CORRECTAMUNDO 🎯👍
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Man, this guy is very good. As soon as I saw his first throw, so confident, so solid, and so perfect, I knew I had to settle in for the entire one hour of video.
Great to hear. Thank you
There are not enough likes for this kind of pure, thorough, and concise instruction!!
Thank you. I never thought that this tutorial gets so much views :)
This was the video that inspired me to keep trying with no-spin throwing.
I'm much better at it now, thanks to the in-depth and clear instruction.
This is the video that I learned so much. I became a better thrower almost immediately. I'm at day 19 and can throw using my right hand which is my dominant hand and left. Also can throw with my left backhanded no spin. Your the best. So grateful for you and Adam Celadin. I show everyone your videos.
Nice to hear, thank you.
The bible of no-spin ! haha ! A MUST WATCH !
Haha....thank you a lot :)
samoth chipmah love your tutorial on no spin. Could you do another on half spin. You have alot of followers in the USA
Helped me greatly. When I first got mine I thought it would be like a lawn dart and automatically go to the tip. Got substantially better after watching this.
You are not only a world class expert in knife throwing, but also a kind person and very good teacher. And you help and inspire me and many others.
Thanks for this straightforward, clear tutorial.
I am left-handed, so I especially loved watching this.
Cool :)
Southpaw 🎯👍😅
this is honestly like the best tutorial I've ever seen about anything ever
That's very nice to hear. Thank you for the feedback.
not everyone that specializes in an art form can teach there art form.. not just talented but a very informative well explained teacher.. thanku for the tutorial it helped me immensely
Thank you.
Nice to hear :)
Hi Tom. ;-)
It is so rare, for me, to find a true left handed teacher for any craft/art in life. I'm a truly dominant lefty. I can't do a darn thing right handed. Even my left eye is my dominant aiming/shooting eye. This makes it rough for right handed people to teach me almost anything. They just can't get it into their heads, that it really is just like looking into a mirror when a right handed person is trying to teach a true lefthanded person almost anything! It tends to confuse them because everything is perfectly opposite of itself.
The same holds true, for a true left hander teaching a true right hander. I discovered this as my five kids grew up. Two are true lefties, two are right handed and my oldest boy is all mixed up.;-)
So, to find a fellow lefty, that has mastered any craft/skill, that also has the patients to break down their craft/skill and teach it to others, including lefties, is a true gift that rarely comes around in ones life.
The other two master lefthanders that were in my life for a brief time, improved my skill in their area of expertise, by three to four hundred percent, and that was in a very short period of time.
I've been throwing since I was a little kid. Stars, knives. Mostly stars, cause the knifes kept breaking. ;-) Always at a chest board. But being a lefty, I've never been able to fine tune this skill, until now perhaps. Now I can actually watch a skilled left hander in action, who explains, as well as shows each step! ;-) This will also be a good tool to help bond more with my challenged sons.
Thanks Tom. I'll keep in touch and let you know how things are going.
Bryon
Hi, i have no problems with left and right. I am piano teacher and i am left handed. For me it seems to be an advantage. My left is more talented, but the right learns also very fast and good. i think for teaching knife throwing it is not that important with which hand you show it.
Thank you
This tutorial video was epic, maybe the best technical analysis I have ever seen?
Thank you very much.
I finally made it through the entire tutorial. This is fantastic, so much to consider. I really liked the grip section - it made me think quite a lot. I haven’t been happy with my sliding technique because I feel like I am just losing power, but sometimes it all comes together and the power is there. I think in those instances I have a tighter grip and better push from my index finger. I also appreciated the knife discussion with specifications. I would love to make my own knives but I can’t do that just yet so for now I just need to purchase the right knifes for how I want to throw. I will need to re-watch various sections as I go forward but I now have a lot to build off of. Thank you very much for taking the time to make this tutorial.
Thank you very much for your comment.
I've been trying to watch this in entirety, but it's a little hard with the baby right now. However, before I forget-- my memory sucks right now, I loved that you did this and that you spent an hour explaining everything! Someone asked me to do a no spin tutorial...and the topic is so complex, that when I saw you spent an hour on your tutorial, I thought, that's about right! :) So far, everything you've said is great. I'll keep at it, but I just wanted to write my comment before I forget!
Thank you very much Colette.
Yes it became very long, but i did not know where to stop ;)
Truly a Grandmaster!! Thank you for making this all-time classic reference video!! So much to take in but totally awesome in comprehensive content!!
Thank you very much.
I was frustrated doing no spin and you have just reenergized my patience to learn my friend!! Thank you!
Great to hear thank you
I've never been more thrilled to find a new channel. Cheers, from across the Atlantic. Subbed.
Thats nice. Thank you
Du bist ein Künstler. Deine Wurftechnik sieht so ästhetisch aus. Respekt.
Vielen Dank :)
The most helpful and informative video on TH-cam in my opinion. Thank you sir for sharing your knowledge.
Thank you
came here from adam's channel, this video was much better at explaining the technical aspect. thank you so much!
Thank you a lot for the feedback.
Thank you for this tutorial. Ive been trying to work on increasing my distance on no-spin throwing. Your section on pushing with the index finger makes alot of sense...so thank you.
Thank you. Have fun :)
Tom, thank you for taking the time to put this video together. I am just getting started, and I have been practicing a lot in the last few weeks. First, you helped me with the whip mechanic, and then the Fedin grip. My mantra as I focus my attention on my target is "grip and whip". I have re-watched this video several times now, and I am able to completely understand and feel what you are describing as I have progressed. I am able to add distance and keep power, all because of your help. I will keep practicing, and hopefully one day I can help someone new with the knowledge you have given me.
Thats always nice to hear. I thank you for that
Wow this is so good, it deserves way more views. It took a long time to finally find this and other tutorials are alright to get started, but I can tell that this is the most comprehensive guide from the best guy possible.
Thank you very much :)
Je suis de Belgique, J'adore vos videos et tutoriels, vous etes un grand champion du throwing. Encore un grand merci pour vos tutoriels au top, qui m'on permis de commencer le no-spin avec beaucoup plus de facilité.
Thank you very much. That is always nice to hear.
Master of his craft. THANK YOU, Samoth
ftwopointeight thank you :)
I cant stop watching. Fantastic tutorial. Has helped me extremely. Im Very grateful sir...
Thats great to hear. Thank you
Thank you for taking the time to make this video, it helped keep me sane during the British lockdowns.
I went from complete novice to 90% stick rate in 6 weeks, thanks to this video
Great :)
Great video, very appreciative of you for taking the time to make it and also to convey such good/accurate information freely and without ego being involved. Dry, concise, accurate, with no fluff or useless bits. Well done. Cheers.
Thank you :)
6 years later and still the best tutorial on the subject! I hope you are fully healed and can start throwing more soon tom!
Thank you very much.
Yes, I throw again and the shoulder is great :)
That was very well done, and if anybody who’s actually interested in learning how to throw knives as eyeballs, they can see how you very well put everything body motion and technique of holding the knife. Everything is good thank you
Thank you very much :)
Outstanding video. Thanks to you I am throwing much much better. Thank you.
Suggestion: that works for me when trying to hit a target: imagine in your mind's eye hitting the target then not thinking about it consciously and letting loose or (pulling the trigger). After some practice... this is similar to micro meditation , in the moment, where/when you are allowing your subconscious to take over for a second. Your subconscious is very powerful , it can do things that you do not think are/is possible. No one taught me this, so i can not give references. There is alot more to this.
Cheers from Australia.
I think some people who are good at their field do this without realising that they are using their subconscious mind/thoughts ? to succeed. This type of human ability is/will be very much desired by other sentients/AI entities.
Shoot/throw strait and ture. Many people have abilities that they have not tried. It is fun to try something and find that you have a natural ability in that area.
From Australia, cheers.
Thank you
I've noticed when I throw with my eyes closed I'm can focus on mechanical techniques with out my brain and my eyes working against me.
Kinda like hitting a fastball with a baseball bat? I don't even look at the ball hitting the bat I just know where and when to swing. Trust yourself!
Thank you for all the lessons! Every time I watch this I find more principles I need to practice. 🙏🙏🙏
Thank you, great to hear :)
I'm learning how to throw with no-spin technic about one week with your video, cause we're always in lockdown in France and I've a lot of time for learning. Your tutorial is amazing : it's THE Bible of no-spin for those who speak English (cause there are a lot in Russian... And I don't speak Russian). So I've made 2 knives like the Arrow (from Flying Steel) or those from Adam Celadin in a piece of steel and it works well. Now, I can throw my knives at 3m and 4m with the basic technic, just in one week !!! It's a little boy dream for me that I can realize now. Thank you very much for your very precises explanations. You are a very good teacher, and of course, a very good pianist too.
Damien Pineau thank you for your great comment. You seem to be fast learner.
@@samothchipmah2407 I don't know if I'm a fast learner! But I've understand the basic technic of no-spin with your tutorial, and I can feel the sensations in my index. My throws are not perfect.
Tremendous tutorial! Thank you for time and expertise. Oh yeah, you're honesty is rare; you're a real gentleman.
Thank you very much for your comment.
Powerful. Never missed unless you intended to miss
You are a good teacher.
I like the detail and how much time you took making this video. There is so much in there. Thank you.
Hi Tom, Thanks for sharing all your expert knowledge and information in such a humble manor. Your German nature shines and I mean that in a good way. Cheers
ezr168 Thank you a lot.
Tom whenever I'm complacent and I miss or loose focus of fundementals I watch beginners video.and I find the solution to my problem.thank you stay safe my friend
Thank you, great to hear.
What a humble man he looks like. Thank you so, so much.
Best and most informative video I have ever seen, Thank you for spending the time to do it.
Certified grandmaster and godfather of the blades
Thank you :)
@@samothchipmah2407 anytime dude ,was always thinking of getting into throwing ,when I seen how good U were throwing definitely inspired me
You are a kind person to comprehensively divulge methods and styles that took you years of work to master. I appreciate that. 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
And it looks at least 20°F .... thanks.
Thank you. i mastered nothing till now :).
Thank you very much for your time and effort making this video. I'm learning now and I cannot say how much I apreciate it.
Great to hear. Thank you
Great tutorial! Best one on youtube, as far as I'm concerned. I first learned full spin and have had issues with half and no spin, your tutorials have helped immensely!
Love this guy! I call him the Professor of No Spin! Nobody’s better that I’ve seen!
Thank you very much :)
Great tutorial. The tip of throwing down really helped. Spent a week or so with target on the ground and it made a huge impact.
Great!! Have fun learning it. Thank you
So helpful for a beginner! I love this video. Shame this doesn't have more views. Your accent and instruction is delightful.
Thank you for the feedback.
I've been having trouble with longer distances untill I started using a hybrid version of the grip you talk about at 35:00. I also realized I wasn't keeping my thumb on side firm with the release. I started having better consistency,more power and speed when I put the but of the knife almost in the crook of my thumb and keep it firm with my thumb flat on the side. I realized that when I released I was letting my thumb loose and was overturning a lot. I still use the brushing motion, but let the knife shoot out between the crook of my thumb and index finger at the last second and have been getting really powerful straight sticks. It took my a while to realize my grip was too loose and not to move my thumb and keep everything firm. I'm still working on standing still and throwing and the release points for different distances. I've learned to step into my shots but I find it more difficult to stand still and throw like you can. I keep coming back to this video and I'm always learning something new from it.
Sounds good what you say about the grip. Very important.
You the man Tom Tom. I've been throwing no spin for 2.5 years. Your videos have been a big inspiration. I learn something ever time. Thank you
Great :)
Thank you.
Great stuff, just bought my 1st throwing knives the other day, just thrown them a few times and bounced most of them off, look forward to trying some of these techniques next time
Be patient :)
Wow ! I really enjoyed this video... I watched it several times at different speeds in various places !
I'm just a beginner, and only got into because of an Aspen tree that fell over the winter on my property that I had to cut up.
I bought a throwing knife years ago, and tried it briefly without any good targets, and loss interest.
The Aspen tree is soft wood so I decided to cut up several thin (about 4 inches/10 cm) wide slabs to use as targets.
I realized that the throwing knife I had wasn't really a good throwing knife because it had a sharp double edge blade--not just a sharp point.
I bought a nice set of three Hindu The Beak Throwing Spikes from Amazon because they were highly rated and inexpensive... these are way better than the one that I had.
I live on a wooded lot, and noticed a double-trunked tree and got the idea of hanging one of my Aspen tree slabs from it by attaching a rope to the back of a tree slab that can be hung at various lengths by wedging the rope between the double trunks and the target can be removed easily.
That works great !
I really love the idea of "no spin" throwing, so I'm hoping to practice that method exclusively !
I hope to add an indoor target in my basement, where I have an airgun range... I can hear my wife now !
I will have to try and reduce the clanging sound !
If you want to learn no spin, do nothing else, escpecially no rotation throwing, because that is a complete different motion. If you put tape around the knives , they will be more silent, and throw from distances where you don`t fail.
@@samothchipmah2407 You make it look "easy", but it is obvious that you worked and practiced a lot to make it look easy, especially at all the various distances... I'm going to "stick" to your no-spin method !
@@airmojo My technic was different when I made the tutorial, but it is still good for the start, and yes, you have to train a lot :)
@@samothchipmah2407 Do you practice throwing into a wood target on the ground or floor ?
I brought one of my Aspen wood slabs inside and placed it on my basement floor to practice the "no spin" hold... painted a on inch size bullseye on it to aim for... easy to make the knife/spike stick, but usually miss the bullseye... but it is fun !
@@airmojo I have them quote high. Knives stick mostly head high. Throwing low is easier. I would put it higher.
You are a very good teacher. Poetry in motion upon success. The psychological deduction on forces and motions were clear. Thank you
Thank you for the feedback
Thank you
This video helped me go from an almost novice, to being very accurate in a number of throwing styles in just the last year.
Many thanks Tomas, helped the solitary confinement of 2020 pass easier and I now have a new passion and community
Great to hear. Thank you for the comment.
Real teacher indeed. Your teachings have helped out and will continue to for time to come. Much thanks from a beginner knife thrower/maker! I still intend on buying a set of your arrows in the future.
Thank you. You will not be dissapointed of the arrows i think.
Thank you Tom Tom, for sharing your wisdom!! This has help me along my journey and is still guiding me.
Thank you :)
This is the most incredible no-spin tutorial I have seen yet. I am completely addicted to throwing implements of all types now and the first clip I saw was from Adam Celadin and something clicked. Thanks so much.
Thank you. To hear such a feedback is always great.
Thanks sir, for such an excellent and concise tutorial.
You are welcome
Actually, I tried to say thank YOU sir, but Google took the liberty to change, Thank you, to an informal, "thanks."
I watched this long ass video last night and it is amazing! I feel like I learned alot about throwing, and what is a scale-able throwing technique. I went to throw today and remembered many of the lessons here and was immediately throwing better and with a higher standard to work toward.
Thank you very much.This is one of, if not the most, informative no spin throwing video I have watched yet.
That sounds very nice.
Thank you.
50:06 greatest no spin throw I've ever seen. You're my idol. having that kind of knife throwing skill is the only time I would ever say throwing a knife in combat or more realistically a defensive situation would be a good idea.
Thank you. This was a halfspin throw. For shorter distances it is very effective, yes.
samoth chipmah my bad it's so fast I thought it was no spin.
samoth chipmah I can't even come close to getting down your technique but I'm practicing it. all I can do consistently is the military half spin at about 5 meters. but I'm practicing your no spin every day. I don't have good knives either I don't have money I'm using ten inch nails right now.
you can make your own knives. any 6mm steel. 25cm long and balanced to the handle. cutting with an angle grinder.
samoth chipmah yeah that's that's what I'm gonna do I'm gonna buy some stainless steel Friday.
I love it that you are left-handed!
I don't know the English word of the wood I use but it's the cheap one. Not hard wood.
Hey! That's Tomtom. One of Adams Celadin's teacher! 👍
Samoth, thank you very much. I am a brand new beginner knife thrower, a Canadian living here in Mexico, and just got a good set of knives. I have been throwing hatches for a few months. I find your information very good and informative, thanks again amigo!
Thank you. Good to hear.
Very Impressive, therefore, I share this tutorial video with friends.
Thank you. Have fun with this great sport.
Very interesting, no nonsense approach for competition & self defence. Thankyou.
Thank you.
Thanks so much for this great video. I've watched it several times but just wasn't getting the hang of an overhand no spin throw.
I kept at it and just started sticking them pretty regularly then I watched this video again and now it makes perfect sense. Excellent instruction!
Excellent ethic in this work, great and subtel emphasis in body and psychic mechanics...and of course, the Germanic Spirit. I am using your point of view on 'throwing' to enrich my work in Contrology. Thanks for your effort, in my case will not be senseless.
Thank you for that great feedback.
Brilliant tutorial! Clear explanations and demonstrations, and you cover the subtle stuff that one could easily miss if you didn’t point it out.
That simple exercise throwing from one hand to the other, for example, is genius - explains the finger-brush perfectly.
Thanks, Thomas 😀
Thank you. Aöways good to hear that it helps
I really enjoyed your video. I've always wanted to learn how to throw a knife! You've explained it so clearly,I'm going to try it again! Thank you!Dan .S
Great to hear.
Thank you
Love it all, excellent information, and my style of teaching!! It's been years since I've thrown, so this video reminded me. 🔪 Just bought 2 more sets and can't wait to build a practice area again. Thank you and respect from a Pole in the US.
Thank you for the feedback.
Thanks for this, listening to your tips from this video immediatly improved my consistency with getting the stick and I just got my first throwing knife few days ago, so I'm as green as it gets.
:) Thank you, great to hear.
You are amazing to watch. Wish I could throw like that.
Thank you.
You are a master, what a great video, been throwing knives for many years and it's all about overcoming doubt and anger and remaining calm and focused.
Seeing you throw once made me want to watch whole video.
Awesome!
Well said, thank you.
really helpful. 15 minutes in and major improvements on my technique.
Thats perfect to read for me :)
Hi, Sir Tom Tom. Thank You very much for this Tutorial. I've got the new knowledge and started training no-spin every day from March this year. You are the excellent Teacher, You are the real Master. I suppose this Work is the best for beginners, advanced throwers and masters, for each category. I couldn't find something comparable to this Tutorial of Yours in Russian language, so with pleasure watch and listen in English. Much depends on the people indeed. Therefore Your Work is the best too. You are a good, an inspired man. You know what the Art and the Culture is in the very sense of these concepts, I think. Though it were the art of throwing or any other genuine art. Many thanks and the greatest respects to You, Sir Tom Tom!
Thank you very much for that great comment.
Thank You. I've also taken the advantage of Your advice from the Tutorial and made myself throwing knives from the cheapest 6 mm steel and now training with them. For me it is also an expansion of capabilities and implementation of my childhood dream to throw knives from any distance and no-spin gives such opportunities and makes it real. Previously I've been familiar with the half-spin (military grip) and full spin only and was sure that I could throw knives). Today I see that I cannot!) but I need learning from the basics and I'm very glad and grateful to You.
A lot of gems of wisdom in this video. Thank you very much!!!
Man you are awesome, almost like seeing in movies, nice tutorial, thank you.
Wow! You and Adam are both southpaws! I'm 110% southpaw myself! What more could I ask for! Used to throw stars at a chest board, I want to pick up on knifes to. Thanks. ;-)
Thank you
GREAT VIDEO! I keep watching this video again and again as a tutorial AND inspiration. FANTASTIC. Thank you
Thats great to hear, thanks.
Thank you for this great video. I am throwing so much better after only watching this video one time. Awesome!
That is great to hear :) Thank you
AMIGO!!! Este tutorial es impresionante, de todos los tutoriales de lanzamiento ninguno explica el posicionamiento de los dedos o de las diferentes posturas de la mano, hermano exelente trabajo y gracias por todo el tiempo que le invertirse... T deseó nada más quería e éxitos desde Argentina.
Thank you for your comment :)
Thanks, best explanation I've yet to hear. Yes it is very difficult for a beginner, but the falling are really helps.
Thank you.
Now THAT is a entertainment center!
Thanks :)
This man is a certified bad ass. Great tutorial. So cool and calm
Thank you
Great teaching video. I learned a lot watching. Glad I found you on TH-cam. With your help I am now sticking the knife much more. Getting to be a lot more fun. Thanks.
Thank you for the feed back
Excellent tutorial, Samoth! Well structured, excellently explained, the right words with the maximum impact. When I watch your tutorials I cannot stand grabbing a knife and practicing 😎. I like a lot the focus on the input-output relationship and I am now clear about the differences between the no-spin styles (index slide, Finish, Fedin). Thanks a lot for the tutorial!
Great to hear. thank you
Thank you for a very detailed and in-depth video the difference between good at his sport and a true master just shows in the instruction and advice he gives because he knows exactly what is required though the throwing motion.
Thank you for that comment.
Very useful tutorial! I have been training Fedin's grip for more than a year and had some problems with it. Thanks to your tips I have realised what I did wrong. Good job!
Nice to hera. Thank you
I appreciate you sharing your skills and knowledge. Best regards!
Thank you.
After spending an hour yesterday trying to throw my Cold Steel throwing knife, I really appreciate what great skill you have. I had zero success with no spin so I tried spin technique at around four meters with only 10% success.
@@garymilstead4199 knife throwing is hard to learn. Cold steel are bad for no spin. Which one you have?
Start no spin from just 1-2 meter. Be careful of bouce backs. Use big targets where you cant hit the rim. Thats safe.
I have the heavy one “true flight thrower” with the para-cord laced through the handle. It’s the one that people complain breaks at the hole in the handle. I knew immediately that the para-cord would interfere with the grip and release. But You’ve inspired me to keep practicing. I have subscribed to your channel.
@@garymilstead4199 I threw the true flight one year or so(you can see in my first videos years ago), because i did not know better. The first two broke immediately. it is imo a real bad knife for no spin, very hard to learn with it. Join the instinctive knife throwers on facebook, you will meet a lot knife makers who make great knives. Where you live?
Thank you very mutch for this great lesson
Thank you Sir for the video of YOUR style. Very, very informative. Awesome video.
Thank you a lot
sehr hilfreiches video. danke für diesen beitrag.
Bitte sehr
Hey , Tom . Even so long ago this vid was made , it "s proving it's xalue (at least for me) like a book , only better because the way you 're explaining is a lot better then only written text. You are a great teacher , I am a son of a teacher in electrotecnics . Never knew what he gave . But other thinks he was an very teacher to me . I"m looking to older vids , now I am furter . Hope you do well , stay a lot outdoors because there is the "Reson for Restriction"aka the killervirus doomed to die . Thanx for what I "ve learned from you (you have real commitment and your explanation lives ,If you get my drift . Greetings from the land of clumbs and mills . Reinhardt
Dirk Reinhardt thank you for the kind comment.
Loved your video! I don't get to practice as much as I should. Did a session today and at first, I thought your suggestions messed me up. But after some more practice, I started improving. I've always struggled to get past 3 meters with no spin. Got a little past that and surprised myself! Danke!
Thank you very much for the feedback
Great information. Thanks for your time and expertise.
Thank you for the tutorial!. I have learned no spin technique in 3 days and i have broken my first throwing knife :D. But i must to practice very hard. I discovered my new hobby and thanks to your video i can develop my skill.
Thank you for the feedback.
I really wish I could learn this. I've spent over half a year now practicing every day, and for a while I had a little success. I think I peaked around 2 months into the process, every since then it has actually been backwards and the more I practice the worse I get. I know this is not supposed to be possible - I have learned many other things and more practice always equals more progress, but I think at this point I am just hopeless for no spin. I really envy anyone who can do this because right now it is a huge source of depression for me that I cannot do this. I think this is a great tutorial and I've seen it many times and tried to absorb everything in it but at this point I am regretting that I ever tried to learn no spin.
Join instinctive knife throwers on facebook and show videos. You will get help. It is not that hard