I'll mention this here to make sure you guys see it. You might check out the tag for Real Engineering. It reads "Check our" and should read "Check out". Just something I noticed and figured you'd want to know.
That "funny looking dog with the big black nose" only had one recorded kill when he shot down the Red Baron on 21 April 1918 while the Baron was laughing from Snoopy's invitation for a "real dog fight."
Thank yoou, so much, for the link to Real Engineering. Not only was the video on World War 1 aircraft very good, but the next video queued up revealed how female British engineer Beatrice Schilling solved the early Spitfire's inverted flight flooding problem.. I've added that video to the list for the Hack RVA workshop club, where we have occasional visits from a high school girl who plans to be an engineer. We want to encourage her. By the way,m it's another Hack RVA member, Brian J, who introduced me to your channel. :)
Amazing to think that the airplane was merely 14 years old as an invention by the time these events took place. Just 8 years before crossing the English Channel with an airplane was seen as an amazing feat. It's true however that the war sped up development of airplanes severalfold. The first non-stop transatlantic flight was in 1919 with a Vickers Vimy - a long range bomber aircraft developed at the end of WWI. Alcock and Brown were the two pilots who flew this historic flight.
Brah i knew that feeling whenever my history teachers taught ww2 in class and they woukd make a mistake. I raised my hand and pointed it out and the teacher got embarrassed and everyone laughed.
That is not surprising. Most teachers barely know their own subject matter. Do yourself a favor: educate yourself every opportunity you get. Read. Read. Read. Read every day. Reading history books - any books really, but history books are some of the best - will give you a better, more well-rounded education than 90% of anyone around you.
The thumbnail here was also used as the cover on the copy of the book Goshawk Squadron by Derek Robinson (?) Which is one of the best novels I've read about the WWI war in the air. Bitter and funny and tragic.
Its a fairly standard nickname for the Infantry. But if you look at it, the vast majority of the army is set up to do one thing, to ensure the Poor Bloody Infantryman can do his job, as *only* the Infantry can take and hold ground. Artillery, armour, aircraft, logistics train, intelligence, all these would be useless without the Poor Bloody Infantry. Other arms of service tend to look down on the Infantry, but at the end of the day they are the most important arm of service in the military, because without them you are doing no attacking or defending.
@@alganhar1 Airstrikes can obliterate, but only infantry can occupy Also: "Hey Army! Get in your tank and follow me, for I am Marine Corps infantry." 'cause, y'know, marines
One would assume pilots had little to no means of communicating with each other while in the air at that time. The fact that they could coordinate with each other and stick to tactics, even if barely, is extremely impressive.
Communication in echelon was by wing wagging and hand signals. The British used flares for a while but abandoned them in 1917 I think. BTW Manfred von Richtofen was quite strict about NOT flying in a straight line ever. He led his echelons in S turns and always scanned for enemy aircraft.
He may have been shot down (almost certainly by an Australian Lewis gunner on the ground) because he forgot his own rules while pursuing an enemy aircraft.
British flight or squadron leaders in the air usually had a red streamer attached to a wing so they could be distinguished from other planes during dogfights and their subordinates could watch for the commander's hand signals.
This episode comes at a great time. I was rereading "Knight of Germany" and cross referencing Boelcke's journey with the video's you posted previously to understand more of the situation of the war during his time fighting it. I really enjoyed the references to Boelcke and Von Richthofen. Boelcke holds a special spot in my heart, as I am the only person in my family who flies airplanes. My grandmother has stated that we are related to Boelcke and that also means a great amount to me. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to trace the lineage back personally and my grandmother is very old now. Thank you for this series, I have greatly enjoyed watching every episode and catching all the way up to the current day of the Great War.
And much of Boelckes tactics, the fighter pack, methods of conserving pilot endurance, and his eight points, are still in force today. The pilots and aces of World War One laid the foundations of modern air combat, with many, even most, of their knowledge and tactics as true today as it was then.
Fun fact about Wilhelm Frankl: his first confirmed kill came in early 1915 when he was an observer, not a pilot. And he shot down his opponent with a rifle. The early days of aerial warfare for sure, when all you have for armament is a rifle.
I'm constantly amazed by the number of photos and film clips that you guys find and incorporate into your videos. Sincere compliments to your researchers.
a really important point there indy, thank you for making it. usually bloody april is seen as a british loss because they lost more men, but if as you say, they denied the airspace to the enemy, then they completed their mission,
You keep getting better and better. I applaud you for letting the kids of today a chance to really learn something of quality. You should be very proud. Bet your mom is happy!
Hey Indy, Flo & Crew, I have a question for Out of the Trenches: Did Guards units such as the Coldstream Guards, the Leib Regiment or the Pavlov Grenadiers receive any special training or equipment privileges, and were they used in the same way as regular troops were used, or for more specialised action? Love your show, it’s absolutely fantastic - keep up the amazing work!!! And special greetings and thanks to the guys behind the cameras and desktops whom we hardly ever get to see, but who are crucial for your show :)
I'm sorry, I didn't mean to underestimate your capacities while overestimating mine. Would you accept this peace offer where I take absolutely no responsibility for my opinions and actions?
Nearly no other war had so much and famous things going on in the air as ww1.. Pilots like the Red Barons remain legends and heros forever.. no other was had such things. Please more videos about specific planes & tactics. Amazing video guys 👍
Thanks Indy and team. I have learned more about TGW by watching your videos than I have from any other source. They are informative as well as entertaining to watch!
Another great educational experience gang, thank you. Having a bit of trouble getting into it though, current events are far more troubling than even July of 1914. Seriously, yall take care.
I could imagine how the English pilots felt when they saw “The Red Baron” coming. Would have felt like looking at the angel of death coming towards you. He became a legend even before he died.
Hi Indie and gang, love the show and can't wait too see more. Is it a pain to ask if can you talk about/ do an episode about experimental vehicles that never made it to the front? I feel like it is an interesting topic to touch on. Keep up the magnificent work guys!
Albatros D.III and similar planes always remind me on the late 90s, which I spent basically addicted to the video game called "Flying Corps". Ah, the nostalgia.
1:45 I've been a student of early aviation, especially World War I, since the 1960s and have never actually seen a photo of a Nieuport 17 with 2 Lewises before. Twice the drag from the gun and twice the weight of ammunition versus harder hitting power.
I've always wondered, who was the first person to see two aircraft fighting each other high above the sky and said "you what that reminds me of? Dogs fighting?"
As Indie mentioned the namegiver of my old Wing in the German Airforce (JaBoG 31 "Boelcke"), I couldn´t help but smile and hear the undying words of my old Kommodore "Circus Boelcke - Jeder Soldat eine Attraktion" (Circus Boelcke - every serviceman is a attraction)
In the time i served (ca. 1998 - 2000) we had the standardized NATO Woodland Camouflage on the hull of our Tornados - but there also was the (infamous) "Boelcke cow" - a Tornado painted in shades of blue (similarities with this bugger book and movie that lonely mature women so love and crave are definitively NOT intended) and White, called by us the Boelckecow (because of the similarity with the Milkakuh. (if you are Flo - dann weißte bestimmt was ich mit Milkakuh meine und kannst dem Rest eurer Crew das erklären - if you aren´t Flo - let it be explained to you by Flo ;-)
Hi Great War channel, love the show! You guys should check out the Omaka Aviation Museum in Blenheim, New Zealand. It houses one of the best WW1 aeroplane displays in the world. It holds much of Sir Peter Jackson's private collection.
Werner Voss (13 April 1897 - 23 September 1917) was a World War I German flying ace credited with 48 aerial victories. He was the highest scoring Jewish ace flying for Germany in WW1.
Indy, this is becoming really meta, what with the excellent Forgotten Weapons and Real Engineering mash-up. Have you done a double header with Lindybeige or Tank Museum yet, I can't remember?
In raw numbers, Black September was worse than Bloody April: 560 planes lost versus 245. In terms of fraction of forces available, Bloody April was much worse. (Note: American ace Frank Luke is included in the casualties for Black September.) For more, try Norman Franks and Frank W Bailey, Bloody April - Black September: a.co/fhlquUd
It was great working with you!
+Real Engineering likewise
Real Engineering And I was subscribed to both for quite some time already. I absolutely love these "cameos"
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I'll mention this here to make sure you guys see it. You might check out the tag for Real Engineering. It reads "Check our" and should read "Check out". Just something I noticed and figured you'd want to know.
Honorable mencion to Snoopy, he made me interested into WWI Airplanes when I was a child
How many kills did Snoopy managed to get in his Sopwith?
That "funny looking dog with the big black nose" only had one recorded kill when he shot down the Red Baron on 21 April 1918 while the Baron was laughing from Snoopy's invitation for a "real dog fight."
At least 4.
When I was a child I had a Snoopy poster with him surfing, shouting "Cowabunga!" I think he should never have strayed onto the battlefields of WW1.
After waving to the poor blighters down below, Snoopy famously declared "Blighters appreciate you waving at them!"
Jon Harper he was shot down but scurried across no man's land almost being discovered by hun raiders but made it home for tea.
Thank yoou, so much, for the link to Real Engineering. Not only was the video on World War 1 aircraft very good, but the next video queued up revealed how female British engineer Beatrice Schilling solved the early Spitfire's inverted flight flooding problem.. I've added that video to the list for the Hack RVA workshop club, where we have occasional visits from a high school girl who plans to be an engineer. We want to encourage her. By the way,m it's another Hack RVA member, Brian J, who introduced me to your channel. :)
That's great to hear that you want to encourage here, really great!
Amazing to think that the airplane was merely 14 years old as an invention by the time these events took place. Just 8 years before crossing the English Channel with an airplane was seen as an amazing feat. It's true however that the war sped up development of airplanes severalfold. The first non-stop transatlantic flight was in 1919 with a Vickers Vimy - a long range bomber aircraft developed at the end of WWI. Alcock and Brown were the two pilots who flew this historic flight.
100 year... with two world wars... no, because two world wars, we have came far.
Technologically advances because there is a need for it. War often creates an urgent need for that advancement.
We are studying ww1 in class and because I watch this channel, I know more than my teacher.
feels good when this happens.
Brah i knew that feeling whenever my history teachers taught ww2 in class and they woukd make a mistake. I raised my hand and pointed it out and the teacher got embarrassed and everyone laughed.
Plot twist, your teacher watches this channle too.
That is not surprising. Most teachers barely know their own subject matter. Do yourself a favor: educate yourself every opportunity you get. Read. Read. Read. Read every day. Reading history books - any books really, but history books are some of the best - will give you a better, more well-rounded education than 90% of anyone around you.
That is awesome, but also a little sad.
Indy's pronunciation of German words is improving.
Yeah, but his pronunciation is still too harsh.
+h lynn keith it sounds fine to us.
It's Indy's "inner Texan" coming to the surface. ;)
The Great War Perhaps it is just my ear. I learned German from meine Tante Anna-Marie. Soft 'ch' and 'r'. Like Katja in Deutsch für Euch on TH-cam.
Steve Kaczynski Still need some more work on French tho
The thumbnail here was also used as the cover on the copy of the book Goshawk Squadron by Derek Robinson (?) Which is one of the best novels I've read about the WWI war in the air. Bitter and funny and tragic.
I love when we get specials. 😄 It's these episodes that make history come alive. Great job TGW team. keep it up.
+TurtleDude05 thanks, glad you liked it
"PBI or poor bloody infantry" that's harsh man.
Harsh, but still the truth.
Its a fairly standard nickname for the Infantry. But if you look at it, the vast majority of the army is set up to do one thing, to ensure the Poor Bloody Infantryman can do his job, as *only* the Infantry can take and hold ground.
Artillery, armour, aircraft, logistics train, intelligence, all these would be useless without the Poor Bloody Infantry. Other arms of service tend to look down on the Infantry, but at the end of the day they are the most important arm of service in the military, because without them you are doing no attacking or defending.
Well, as Patton put it in WW2, "winkle the other bastard out of his foxhole and make him sign the peace treaty".
My Great Grandfather John T Nicholson died at Arras 24th April he is buried at one of the British military cemeteries.
@@alganhar1 Airstrikes can obliterate, but only infantry can occupy
Also: "Hey Army! Get in your tank and follow me, for I am Marine Corps infantry." 'cause, y'know, marines
One would assume pilots had little to no means of communicating with each other while in the air at that time. The fact that they could coordinate with each other and stick to tactics, even if barely, is extremely impressive.
Communication in echelon was by wing wagging and hand signals. The British used flares for a while but abandoned them in 1917 I think.
BTW Manfred von Richtofen was quite strict about NOT flying in a straight line ever. He led his echelons in S turns and always scanned for enemy aircraft.
They used wing wagging and such even in WWII.
hand signals, colored pennants, flares, and special maneuvers were pretty much it.
He may have been shot down (almost certainly by an Australian Lewis gunner on the ground) because he forgot his own rules while pursuing an enemy aircraft.
British flight or squadron leaders in the air usually had a red streamer attached to a wing so they could be distinguished from other planes during dogfights and their subordinates could watch for the commander's hand signals.
This episode comes at a great time. I was rereading "Knight of Germany" and cross referencing Boelcke's journey with the video's you posted previously to understand more of the situation of the war during his time fighting it. I really enjoyed the references to Boelcke and Von Richthofen. Boelcke holds a special spot in my heart, as I am the only person in my family who flies airplanes. My grandmother has stated that we are related to Boelcke and that also means a great amount to me. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to trace the lineage back personally and my grandmother is very old now. Thank you for this series, I have greatly enjoyed watching every episode and catching all the way up to the current day of the Great War.
Nice use of an underlying music track around 7:45 and on there. I almost didn't notice it. It shows how the show has aged and matured.
And much of Boelckes tactics, the fighter pack, methods of conserving pilot endurance, and his eight points, are still in force today. The pilots and aces of World War One laid the foundations of modern air combat, with many, even most, of their knowledge and tactics as true today as it was then.
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It was a pleasure working with you. Pity we could not get all the photos included.
I didn't know Snoopy's doghouse was a Sopwith Camel. I learned a bunch today! Thanks for the great video!
Hahaha I love that mention of what snoopy flew.....
Fun fact about Wilhelm Frankl: his first confirmed kill came in early 1915 when he was an observer, not a pilot. And he shot down his opponent with a rifle.
The early days of aerial warfare for sure, when all you have for armament is a rifle.
I'm constantly amazed by the number of photos and film clips that you guys find and incorporate into your videos.
Sincere compliments to your researchers.
a really important point there indy, thank you for making it. usually bloody april is seen as a british loss because they lost more men, but if as you say, they denied the airspace to the enemy, then they completed their mission,
It's amazing how much aircraft & tactics evolved during the war considering they both pretty much started from scratch.
You keep getting better and better. I applaud you for letting the kids of today a chance to really learn something of quality. You should be very proud. Bet your mom is happy!
Great special!
Everyone remembers the Camel for Snoopy- nobody remembers it for Biggles :(
Oh I'm not criticising you Indy! It's more an observation on how differently pop culture perceives the air war now compared to the 1930s-late 60s
Thanks for mentioning Wilhelm Frankl - possibly the first video on TH-cam doing this.
Also seen at 5:18 is Lt. Konstantin Krefft and Lt. Kurt Wolff.
Real engineering brought me here and I'm not disappointed. Great video and great channel!!
Is it true they called it "Dogfights" because Snoopy was up there?
Hey Indy, Flo & Crew,
I have a question for Out of the Trenches:
Did Guards units such as the Coldstream Guards, the Leib Regiment or the Pavlov Grenadiers receive any special training or equipment privileges, and were they used in the same way as regular troops were used, or for more specialised action?
Love your show, it’s absolutely fantastic - keep up the amazing work!!! And special greetings and thanks to the guys behind the cameras and desktops whom we hardly ever get to see, but who are crucial for your show :)
Indy, you are the Serbia of my Entente
That one will certainly go to my list of awkward compliments.
awkward?... that's very Austro-Hungarian of you
I'm sorry, I didn't mean to underestimate your capacities while overestimating mine. Would you accept this peace offer where I take absolutely no responsibility for my opinions and actions?
Yes, absolutely, there's no point in Bolsheviking this any longer
Thanks, that's very non-Entente of you.
Hey Indy, don't forget Biggles also flew the Sopwith Camel!
Nearly no other war had so much and famous things going on in the air as ww1.. Pilots like the Red Barons remain legends and heros forever.. no other was had such things. Please more videos about specific planes & tactics. Amazing video guys 👍
Playing “Wings” on the Amiga 500 back in the day and “Bloody April” was one of the hardest phases of the game to survive in.
mvfc76 I still remember the solo flight against 10 of them. I got 9.
My favourite game on the 500.
A video from The Great War on by birthday discussing "Bloody April"...what a great present! 😃
Nothing like getting home from work. Making a sandwich and a stiff drink and watching a new Great War video.
Just finished watching "the Red Baron" and this video went up. I love it
Aviation lord That one of 1971 or 2008 ?
Thanks for remembering these hero's and being so entertaining.
That was really a Bloody April. 4 - 1 KD ratio: GG indeed.
Found this channel through Real Engineering. I subscribed and will start from video number one. Thank you, Don from Montana
Air combat history has always been my favorite of the wars please add more of this content is super great!
Thanks Indy and team. I have learned more about TGW by watching your videos than I have from any other source. They are informative as well as entertaining to watch!
Bravo, Indiana! Another fine episode.
Bölcke....
when I was in the German army I served with Jagdbomber Geschwader 31 Bölcke KRK/S. :-)
Real engineering & TGW collab! Awww yeah!
history, war, engineering, and airplanes. all of the things I love sharing lines
LOVE YOUR VIDS! Definitely need them next year for 8th grade social studies!!!!
This channel is gold.
"The Sopwith Camel, that's what Snoopy flew" LoL, so much memories.
Two of my favorite channels collaborating. Nice!
Really cool to see 2 channels I've subbed to since before they were big have a unannounced surprise collaboration!
I just love when two of my favorite TH-cam channels make a collaboration on one episode
belive me your channel is a useful channel i've ever seen ,thank you for this channel
For anyone interested in ww1 aviation I really recommend the movies The Blue Max and Aces High.
The grave next to Arch Stanton.
There is also the classic 1927 film "Wings". First movie ever to win an academy award for best picture.
I particularly like The Blue Max - among other things it gives an idea, with its manipulative officer caste losing its grip, where Hitler came from.
Another great educational experience gang, thank you.
Having a bit of trouble getting into it though, current events are far more troubling than even July of 1914.
Seriously, yall take care.
Best channel on TH-cam, amazing work and super interesting
I always put aside what I am going to watch your videos
I could imagine how the English pilots felt when they saw “The Red Baron” coming. Would have felt like looking at the angel of death coming towards you. He became a legend even before he died.
Hi Indie and gang, love the show and can't wait too see more. Is it a pain to ask if can you talk about/ do an episode about experimental vehicles that never made it to the front? I feel like it is an interesting topic to touch on. Keep up the magnificent work guys!
This reminds me, Greenville, my small town in rural Pennsylvania is the home of the parachute
I've seen that cover picture before as the cover of the book Goshawk Squadron by Derek Robinson
Albatros D.III and similar planes always remind me on the late 90s, which I spent basically addicted to the video game called "Flying Corps". Ah, the nostalgia.
Very interesting! thank you so much for making these videos for us! :)
Another great video as always!
great episode !
I was waiting for this episode since I found this channel 2 years ago!
8:06 thanks now I know what snoopy was flying in ww1
1:45 I've been a student of early aviation, especially World War I, since the 1960s and have never actually seen a photo of a Nieuport 17 with 2 Lewises before. Twice the drag from the gun and twice the weight of ammunition versus harder hitting power.
Outstanding episode!!!
Love this show! Keep up the great work!
Here from Real Engineering. Very interesting.
I love this channel
I've always wondered, who was the first person to see two aircraft fighting each other high above the sky and said "you what that reminds me of? Dogs fighting?"
Hahaha. That was the censored version. The pilots called it something different, but newspaper editors cleaned it up.
Is that so? I did not know that. What word would that be?
Best show on youtube
As Indie mentioned the namegiver of my old Wing in the German Airforce (JaBoG 31 "Boelcke"), I couldn´t help but smile and hear the undying words of my old Kommodore "Circus Boelcke - Jeder Soldat eine Attraktion" (Circus Boelcke - every serviceman is a attraction)
+Thomas Feck but you use other paint jobs nowadays than the flying circus did?
In the time i served (ca. 1998 - 2000) we had the standardized NATO Woodland Camouflage on the hull of our Tornados - but there also was the (infamous) "Boelcke cow" - a Tornado painted in shades of blue (similarities with this bugger book and movie that lonely mature women so love and crave are definitively NOT intended) and White, called by us the Boelckecow (because of the similarity with the Milkakuh. (if you are Flo - dann weißte bestimmt was ich mit Milkakuh meine und kannst dem Rest eurer Crew das erklären - if you aren´t Flo - let it be explained to you by Flo ;-)
Milka-Kuh trifft es wirklich gut.
Seeing lots of Battlefield 1 jokes in the comments, but I am genuinely disapointed no one has made a Blackadder, Lord Flash-Heart joke
The cloud-strewn glory of the skies...
"Treat your plane like your girl. Jump in her twice a day and take her to heaven and back! WOOF WOOF!!!"
I think I preferred Blackadder's more understated approach to the fair sex. "Poor woman. Tied to a desk day and night."
"God. It's like Crufts in here."
lovely stuff
Congrats to 600,000 subscribers
thanks.
The red baron looks like Michael Schumacker
Thank You Sir
When will Sunday Baseball come back, Indy? I LOVED those! I'd love to see more.
See, I'm already subscribed to Real Engineering.
Missing a picture of Snoopy in a Sopwith Camel
love the Snoopy reference....
And the old man felt very happy... gotta love Germans eh?
love the show
Very nice video❤
There should be a TGW special on Snoopy and his single-pawed triumph over the Central Powers.
Best WW1 combat flight sim is Rise of Flight.
I come from real engineering, nice channel
Hi Great War channel, love the show! You guys should check out the Omaka Aviation Museum in Blenheim, New Zealand. It houses one of the best WW1 aeroplane displays in the world. It holds much of Sir Peter Jackson's private collection.
Looks great. But soooo far away. New Zealand is the other side of the world for us.
wow I like the history of war planes and tactics
1917 was not a good year.
God Save The Tsar indeed.
Just wait till next year
-Slava Lenina-
Tsar Nicholas II You only had to wait a few more months for it to all be over.
LOVE THIS SHOW!!!!!
I learned this topic from Archer. Poor Woodhouse and Reggy.
Werner Voss (13 April 1897 - 23 September 1917) was a World War I German flying ace credited with 48 aerial victories. He was the highest scoring Jewish ace flying for Germany in WW1.
Voss was not Jewish.
What a terrible month for the allies. But I suspect it had plenty of consequences beyond just a bunch of victories in the air. Nice job.
"Flo, did you leave the door open again?" LOL!
Never been so early. I'm excited.
Indy, this is becoming really meta, what with the excellent Forgotten Weapons and Real Engineering mash-up. Have you done a double header with Lindybeige or Tank Museum yet, I can't remember?
Last time I was this early, the Red Baron shot me down.
The Guy Opfer :D
Question: So, the highest casualties the RFC suffered in the war was during Bloody April. But how about Black September? Was it close?
In raw numbers, Black September was worse than Bloody April: 560 planes lost versus 245. In terms of fraction of forces available, Bloody April was much worse. (Note: American ace Frank Luke is included in the casualties for Black September.)
For more, try Norman Franks and Frank W Bailey, Bloody April - Black September: a.co/fhlquUd