Hi Evan. I love your podcasts, but I think what might take it to a higher level is if you look at the chat comments every once in a while, and shout out some interesting fan takes. Thanks for all your Met content! LFGM
Great to have Manaea back. Keep the hair short. The rotation will be fine. Hopefully working on a couple additional everyday player pieces....Happy Holidays.
“Because they told him he was going to be a starter.” Well, things change. And I’m not sold on Montas at all, either. Everyone talks about“the lab” in terms of Severino and Manaea but they forget that Adrian Houser was in that lab, too. Reclamation projects are a gamble.
For the Rangers: Jake Burger is projected to play 1B, Josh Jung at 3B, & they just signed Joc Pederson for DH. Pete doesn’t have a spot on that team Cubs & Giants won’t be signing Alonso either due to various factors. Pete is a near certainty to re-sign with the Mets on a team friendly deal, since the market for him has completely collapsed.
Folks, I’ve been a Mets fan for over 50 years and I’ve never seen or heard so much disrespect towards our baseball ⚾️ Heroes & entertainer’s ! It’s truly a shame! Especially now that we have great media & live coverage! It’s really a sign of the time with so much access to information! The sad thing is the abuse of it! Please, be considerate & not so abusive ! Baseball is the BEST LiVE entertainment ever ! In Baseball there is no rehearsal or replay…it is Live!!! Go Pete!!! Go Mets!!! FantasticoMets69
Sengai, Manaea, Peterson, Holmes and then Montas / Megill / Canning / Scott all trying to see if they can take the 5th spot of the rotation. Holmes could always move back to the BP in case of injuries or if it didn't work out as a SP. All changes if the Mets sign another quality pitcher.
@@user-yg9sc6gc1r idc that they swept the yankees , you have to put more banners up for me to even respect yall , but at the same time nothing that mets do have anything to do with yankees or vice versa. U dont have to dicc eat by bringing up the yankees , focus on ya team and what they do
I think Holmes is going to be a lot like Lugo last year I don’t want him going to the pen certainly not before we try it. He could be amazing for us in the rotation and I think he will seize it The reason why you mention Vlad is you are not signing Pete to a big contract, if you can get Pete cheap you get him regardless of what next year might be.
My guess is they will put a package together w/ prospects and one of Marte or McNeill for Castillo. Hopefully sign Bregman and Pete and move Vientos to the DH. Could still use Winker as a lefty off the bench + someone w some thump that can play OF off the bench. Might want to tune the bullpen up too…to Evan’s point, this is welcomed news but need to stay busy.
The problem with putting Holmes in the pen is he signed here for 3 years thinking he was gonna get a fair shake as a starter. The Mets cant go back on their word the first month of the first year of a 3 year relationship. This isnt the Brodie snake oil Mets, with the way they screwed Devin Meseroca.
Mets can now wait to see if Sasaki signs with them, leave the spot open for now, and make a trade for a pitcher should Sasaki choose someone else. Stearns is always good at finding a trade, and Mets have a gluttons worth of infield prospects to trade if needed.
My only concern is Meanae/Senga/Holmes/Montas/Peterson are def in. But then you have both Blackburn and Canning on a major league contract. The Mets i feel like do need one more pitcher, but if Canning and Blackburn arent on the roster then arent they released?
I thought Pete made great stops (not only from the infielders making poor throws, but hard shots going into right field!). The errors that I saw in the few games that were televised, was associated with his throwing. His main problem is not being able to recognize the sliders ending up outside the strike zone. Who cares if he hits 40 HRs, if they're not game changing HRs? Maybe he learned something at the end of the yr, by going the opposite way, rather than pulling to left. That would be great. But chasing balls that can't be hit, because they're ending up outside the strike zone, time and time again, is really hard to watch, a second and third time in the same game, especially with runners in scoring position, or first and second, with nobody out. Hopefully he'll move forward, rather than regress, now that all the right hand pitchers know what his key weakness is in tight situations
So you would skip resigning Alonso??? I wouldn't. Bcuz you could have Alonso at first base this year, move him to DH next year and then go get Vladimir Guerrero Jr
Dumb question but w Burnes’ market really not developing at all or so it seems anyway, would it be crazy to offer him let’s say 5 years $200mil? Was just walking my dog and I know everyone saying well maybe if he takes 2-3 year deal w opt out maybe blah blah blah but that’s not going to happen and anyone who thinks it may is silly. However, he wants $200-225 8+ years whatever he’s asking for but one thing we have that gives us an advantage is Uncle Stevie where no one else might do that Cohen can be like here’s $40mil per year over 5?!
My hope is by June Clay Holmes is a high leverage bull pen guy because we have too many good starting pitchers. We need 2 more guys - Roki Sasaki, Walker Buehler or Luis Castillo
@andy. I wish the best with Holmes. I certainly hope he is way better than the last 2 years of blown saves and blown leads as a 6th,7th,8th innings pitcher. Remember he led baseball in that category. I don't think highly of your starting rotation
These guys keep saying they wanna bat Soto 3rd. it’s not 1986. In 2024, you bat Soto 2nd. Don’t overthink the 421 OBP and 160 OPS+. Lindor- then Soto- then probably Vientos.
@@cgtz9526 exactly - the more that dudes get on base, the more others get to hit. Also, you want Soto to actually hit more times than someone who is not as good, which is everybody.
Clay Holmes to the bullpen? Lmao what? Also Peterson came out the bullpen and was a weapon. If they bring in another starter that’s always an option. Let’s just relax on knowing what’s what. “Will Sasaki be in the minors” .. do you just waste time with these thoughts? Lmao what .. you know he struck out 13 straight guys in a professional game right? lol
Sean Manaea, last 14 starts with the Mets, 4.05 ERA, 4.30 FIP, 4.32 SIERA. Yeah, I'm not enthused. The Mets needed two starting pitchers and Manaea is respectable---but no more than that. ---If you omitted his postseason starts when figuring his second half, shame on you.His lucky regular season ERA aside, it took him a lottery-winning .196 BABIP over his last 10 reg season starts just to keep his ERA at a decent but unimpressive 3.79. How the eff did the idea he was very, very good during the second half get any traction??
The cherry picking of dates and start windows is insane lmfao. You started your arbitrary 14 starts/final 10 regular season starts to begin immediately after 2 straight games of 7 IP 0 ER from Manaea. Why is that? I could just as easily extend your bullshit windows by literally 2 starts and completely undermine your entire dumbass point. Over his final 12 regular season starts Manaea had a 3.09 ERA. See?
What you complaining about? This is a good move for the Mets... Always some clown 🤡 cry baby fan that wants to know more then anyone. There's more moves to be made, April is still long ways out, they'll get better! This is not it, just watch and STFU
Evan you really think Vlad is only getting $300 mil??? 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 Dude he turned down a $340 mil extension. He's gonna get 450-550. Not saying i agree with that value. But that is what he will get.
Great contract? Who was giving Manae a five year deal. Very strong possibility he gets hurt because his change in arm angle is extremely stressful of the elbow.
With the A's signing Sevy for 3 years 68 million its fair to think Meanae might have been able to get 4 years 85-90 somewhere. 5 years is a little much.
No way this is it. Clay Holmes isn’t guaranteed a spot. He’s guaranteed a chance to compete for a spot. David Stearns isn’t going to go into the season with so many question marks in the rotation. I expect a true #1, Manaea, Senga, Peterson, Mkntaes. Makes Holmes the 6th man in a 6 man rotation.
🤦🏻♀️Why are you treating the resigning of a career 4.00+ ERA pitcher, whose 2nd half last yr was mediocre at best, as if we got Burnes or Sasaki ?? 🤦🏻♀️🤦🏽♂️ The Mets pitching lab is great but it can't perform magic. Besides they have already improved Manea, & he's a middle of the rotation pitcher AT BEST. We need another ACE. Compare our starters to the Yanks Rodon, Cole and Fried... I would only have confidence in Kodai. Pitching wins championships & 2024 cannot be repeated every yr. 🤣My dude is celebrating a mediocre pitcher as if we signed a top of the rotation ace
The pitching lab didn't do anything with Manaea. He figured out the arm angle watching Chris Sale. You're also blundering regarding his second half, which was both unimpressive and hellaciously lucky just to manage "unimpressive" rather than "abysmal."
Senga isn't even throwing yet, Peterson is up and down, Montas is more down than up and trying to convert Holmes. Do you feel good about that? I dont...
U r a joke. We smashed the Phillies last year and did better against the Dodgers than the hapless Yankees. Now we will have a healthy senga and a new ace.
@ last year is last year you fool. The Dodgers kicked our ass with there pitching and they have gotten better now pitching. Even the Yankees are better than us with all the moves they done. I’m a realist. The teams that win had elite pitching and we certain don’t
Evan, you really happy with this signing? With all the starting pitchers out there , signing him is what your happy about???? Come on bro , this staff is garbage
So an average pitcher your all excited about. The Mets have below average starting rotation. Holmes and Montass in your rotation is not getting you anywhere. Are these guys on something. Nothing to get excited about here
@user-yg9sc6gc1r we will see. They could use Burns. Now that would be a great move. As we stand now that's a bottom 10 starting rotation. With the investment in Soto, for them to go anywhere they need to drastically fis that rotation.
I just turned on YT, and this video pops up! This is how I found out! Good news!
Same here!! What a glorious morning
@WFANNewYork Evan bless your wife heart that she allows you to continue to keep us informed
Seriously 😂
Happy to have Manaea back at a fair contract for all parties.
Welcome back Sean LGM ⚾
I remember You Rico Brogna a prospect for my Beloved Tigers
Keep up the Great work Rico Go Mets Down with the Yankees!!!!
Thank u for ur dedication Evan
Hi Evan. I love your podcasts, but I think what might take it to a higher level is if you look at the chat comments every once in a while, and shout out some interesting fan takes. Thanks for all your Met content! LFGM
2 am rico lmao
when you're committed, you're freakin committed lol
Thank you for the report.
This is a great deal on a short term deal. Now let’s get buehler, Alonso
When the Fan broke the news on the warm up show I actually popped off. HUGE!!!! LFGM.
Great news!!!
Evan reminds me of people that think “if I take time off, the company will fold, I’m irreplaceable”
Big fan Evan! From one enormous Met fan in NC. Give me a shout if you are anywhere near Moore county. Great show, glad to have to check back!
Welcome to North Carolina!
Love the intro. That countdown is riveting.
Great to have Manaea back. Keep the hair short. The rotation will be fine. Hopefully working on a couple additional everyday player pieces....Happy Holidays.
Hell yes!
Tanner Scott next would be amazing
Welcome to nc from a charlotte mets fan
I’m waiting for the Rico Brogna on how to keep your kids from fighting….when will this air?
“Because they told him he was going to be a starter.”
Well, things change.
And I’m not sold on Montas at all, either. Everyone talks about“the lab” in terms of Severino and Manaea but they forget that Adrian Houser was in that lab, too.
Reclamation projects are a gamble.
For the Rangers:
Jake Burger is projected to play 1B, Josh Jung at 3B, & they just signed Joc Pederson for DH. Pete doesn’t have a spot on that team
Cubs & Giants won’t be signing Alonso either due to various factors.
Pete is a near certainty to re-sign with the Mets on a team friendly deal, since the market for him has completely collapsed.
What a pleasant news
Dumpster fire rotation🔥
I think this makes the Mets even more attractive to Sasaki...the rotation has gone from a weak point to a strength.
Strength? Serious?
Huh??
@@djmikefury1That's scary..... very scary comment
This was a bigger move then PA. So happy he is being brought back.
Tanner Scott, Pete Alonso and possibly Sasaki
Hoff with a clutch text
Mets sign Rico Brogna to a 2 year deal to play 1st base & let Alonso walk.
That move won't age well
Manaea and Montas teammates with the A's reunited again.
Nice I just drove all day to SC
Clay Holmes as an effective, reliable starter. Will have to see that to believe it.
We still have in the rotation a starter who is not a real starter! Remember that
Everyone was down on Manaea and Severino when they were signed too. They have my faith in those low level starters until it's broken.
Good news!
Folks, I’ve been a Mets fan for over 50 years and I’ve never seen or heard so much disrespect towards our baseball ⚾️ Heroes & entertainer’s ! It’s truly a shame! Especially now that we have great media & live coverage! It’s really a sign of the time with so much access to information! The sad thing is the abuse of it! Please, be considerate & not so abusive ! Baseball is the BEST LiVE entertainment ever ! In Baseball there is no rehearsal or replay…it is Live!!! Go Pete!!! Go Mets!!! FantasticoMets69
Its unfortunate that " Entertainers" got Political.
Burnes Alonso, and Buehler, what the hello, i can be a fan, and the cherry on top will be the new Japanese pitcher.
Sengai, Manaea, Peterson, Holmes and then Montas / Megill / Canning / Scott all trying to see if they can take the 5th spot of the rotation. Holmes could always move back to the BP in case of injuries or if it didn't work out as a SP. All changes if the Mets sign another quality pitcher.
Sounds like the 95 Braves rotation.
Scott is out for 2025 (TJ).
Mets W
3 years for Manaea is a lot better than 8 years for Fried.
Stop speaking on what yankees.do . Hes not better than fried anyway 😂 , but hes a good pitcher
@brandonfletcher7173 Mets swept the Yankees. Get ready for more lil brother. LoLYankees
@@brandonfletcher7173 I'll speak on whatever I want. LOL
@@user-yg9sc6gc1r idc that they swept the yankees , you have to put more banners up for me to even respect yall , but at the same time nothing that mets do have anything to do with yankees or vice versa. U dont have to dicc eat by bringing up the yankees , focus on ya team and what they do
Fried is 71-31 since 2017 with second lowest era in baseball second in cy young and world series champion you smoke crack
LGM 🧡 💙 Now bring back Pete and hopefully Sasaki chooses the Mets and I'll be Happy.
Update: Walker Buehler signed a one year deal with the Boston Red Sox.
Shoutout to my fellow sickos watching this in realtime
If the Mets sign Alonso and winker. We are pretty set. Platoon Marte/Winker at DH, as Evan had said in the past
I think Holmes is going to be a lot like Lugo last year I don’t want him going to the pen certainly not before we try it. He could be amazing for us in the rotation and I think he will seize it
The reason why you mention Vlad is you are not signing Pete to a big contract, if you can get Pete cheap you get him regardless of what next year might be.
My guess is they will put a package together w/ prospects and one of Marte or McNeill for Castillo. Hopefully sign Bregman and Pete and move Vientos to the DH. Could still use Winker as a lefty off the bench + someone w some thump that can play OF off the bench. Might want to tune the bullpen up too…to Evan’s point, this is welcomed news but need to stay busy.
Now Bregman at 2nd and Pete at 1st and they’ll have one of the best offenses in baseball.
😂😂😂😂😂
Pete will sign and reveal on Wednesday as a gift to the Mets faithful
So happy 😁. Gotta go get Burnes and or Castillo
This is good but not enough.
I feel like the Mets are passing on Alonso to outbid for vlady next year
Nice :)
The problem with putting Holmes in the pen is he signed here for 3 years thinking he was gonna get a fair shake as a starter. The Mets cant go back on their word the first month of the first year of a 3 year relationship. This isnt the Brodie snake oil Mets, with the way they screwed Devin Meseroca.
Mets can now wait to see if Sasaki signs with them, leave the spot open for now, and make a trade for a pitcher should Sasaki choose someone else. Stearns is always good at finding a trade, and Mets have a gluttons worth of infield prospects to trade if needed.
My only concern is Meanae/Senga/Holmes/Montas/Peterson are def in. But then you have both Blackburn and Canning on a major league contract. The Mets i feel like do need one more pitcher, but if Canning and Blackburn arent on the roster then arent they released?
I thought Pete made great stops (not only from the infielders making poor throws, but hard shots going into right field!). The errors that I saw in the few games that were televised, was associated with his throwing. His main problem is not being able to recognize the sliders ending up outside the strike zone. Who cares if he hits 40 HRs, if they're not game changing HRs? Maybe he learned something at the end of the yr, by going the opposite way, rather than pulling to left. That would be great. But chasing balls that can't be hit, because they're ending up outside the strike zone, time and time again, is really hard to watch, a second and third time in the same game, especially with runners in scoring position, or first and second, with nobody out. Hopefully he'll move forward, rather than regress, now that all the right hand pitchers know what his key weakness is in tight situations
Sign Vladdy next year and in 10 years the Mets will have two DH's. Thing about that timing?
So you would skip resigning Alonso??? I wouldn't. Bcuz you could have Alonso at first base this year, move him to DH next year and then go get Vladimir Guerrero Jr
Roki ain’t picking the Mets 😭😭
Day 16 of asking for a Shea Station Rico off-season crossover combined pod. 2 best Mets pods in the game.
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Dumb question but w Burnes’ market really not developing at all or so it seems anyway, would it be crazy to offer him let’s say 5 years $200mil? Was just walking my dog and I know everyone saying well maybe if he takes 2-3 year deal w opt out maybe blah blah blah but that’s not going to happen and anyone who thinks it may is silly. However, he wants $200-225 8+ years whatever he’s asking for but one thing we have that gives us an advantage is Uncle Stevie where no one else might do that Cohen can be like here’s $40mil per year over 5?!
This is a bf deal, of the 4 major rotation pitchers Manaea was the best in my opinion.
My hope is by June Clay Holmes is a high leverage bull pen guy because we have too many good starting pitchers. We need 2 more guys - Roki Sasaki, Walker Buehler or Luis Castillo
@andy. I wish the best with Holmes. I certainly hope he is way better than the last 2 years of blown saves and blown leads as a 6th,7th,8th innings pitcher. Remember he led baseball in that category. I don't think highly of your starting rotation
I would have preferred Flaherty or Castillo. We can be sure to create the same chemistry of last season just to sign the same players.
These guys keep saying they wanna bat Soto 3rd. it’s not 1986. In 2024, you bat Soto 2nd. Don’t overthink the 421 OBP and 160 OPS+. Lindor- then Soto- then probably Vientos.
You want the .430 obp percentage ahead of Vientos and Pete. Lindor single , Soto walk , could open every other game
@@cgtz9526 exactly - the more that dudes get on base, the more others get to hit. Also, you want Soto to actually hit more times than someone who is not as good, which is everybody.
Clay Holmes to the bullpen? Lmao what? Also Peterson came out the bullpen and was a weapon. If they bring in another starter that’s always an option. Let’s just relax on knowing what’s what. “Will Sasaki be in the minors” .. do you just waste time with these thoughts? Lmao what .. you know he struck out 13 straight guys in a professional game right? lol
Why hoff got a polo on at 2am
Evan- Vlad isn’t double the player Alonso is.
2024 WAR
#11- Vlad 6.2
#75- Alonso 2.6
It’s a lot closer than that when you look at career numbers, but vlad is just 25 so you make a point, I honestly forgot he was that young
I mean come on, 2am on vacation?
Am I the only one dying for the Mets to go get Trevor Bauer from the Mexican league. Dude is over there being a real life Kenny Powers
we need Pete,Sasaki and we are set
LFGM!!!!!
Sean Manaea, last 14 starts with the Mets, 4.05 ERA, 4.30 FIP, 4.32 SIERA. Yeah, I'm not enthused. The Mets needed two starting pitchers and Manaea is respectable---but no more than that. ---If you omitted his postseason starts when figuring his second half, shame on you.His lucky regular season ERA aside, it took him a lottery-winning .196 BABIP over his last 10 reg season starts just to keep his ERA at a decent but unimpressive 3.79. How the eff did the idea he was very, very good during the second half get any traction??
The cherry picking of dates and start windows is insane lmfao. You started your arbitrary 14 starts/final 10 regular season starts to begin immediately after 2 straight games of 7 IP 0 ER from Manaea. Why is that? I could just as easily extend your bullshit windows by literally 2 starts and completely undermine your entire dumbass point. Over his final 12 regular season starts Manaea had a 3.09 ERA. See?
Every stat you cited is wrong
What you complaining about? This is a good move for the Mets... Always some clown 🤡 cry baby fan that wants to know more then anyone. There's more moves to be made, April is still long ways out, they'll get better! This is not it, just watch and STFU
I thought he was getting a 5 yr deal. This was great. However... He will not have the same season, just a warning.
Manaea success was not the pitching lab, it was him watching Chris Sale pitch.
No Pitching again
Good, now we just need to re-sign Alonso, and sign Roki Sasaki
They don’t look at the comments
Evan you really think Vlad is only getting $300 mil??? 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 Dude he turned down a $340 mil extension. He's gonna get 450-550. Not saying i agree with that value. But that is what he will get.
TX signed Joc so they may be out too!
Great contract? Who was giving Manae a five year deal. Very strong possibility he gets hurt because his change in arm angle is extremely stressful of the elbow.
With the A's signing Sevy for 3 years 68 million its fair to think Meanae might have been able to get 4 years 85-90 somewhere. 5 years is a little much.
Based on what. Ur guess? 😂
No way this is it. Clay Holmes isn’t guaranteed a spot. He’s guaranteed a chance to compete for a spot. David Stearns isn’t going to go into the season with so many question marks in the rotation. I expect a true #1, Manaea, Senga, Peterson, Mkntaes. Makes Holmes the 6th man in a 6 man rotation.
Holmes is going to be out Lugo mistake fixed. Watch him be a Cy young candidate
This true? 😂
No
Mets converting McNeil to a starting pitcher
Hopefully the polar bear next
LGM World Champs 2025..
🤦🏻♀️Why are you treating the resigning of a career 4.00+ ERA pitcher, whose 2nd half last yr was mediocre at best, as if we got Burnes or Sasaki ?? 🤦🏻♀️🤦🏽♂️
The Mets pitching lab is great but it can't perform magic. Besides they have already improved Manea, & he's a middle of the rotation pitcher AT BEST. We need another ACE. Compare our starters to the Yanks Rodon, Cole and Fried... I would only have confidence in Kodai. Pitching wins championships & 2024 cannot be repeated every yr. 🤣My dude is celebrating a mediocre pitcher as if we signed a top of the rotation ace
The pitching lab didn't do anything with Manaea. He figured out the arm angle watching Chris Sale. You're also blundering regarding his second half, which was both unimpressive and hellaciously lucky just to manage "unimpressive" rather than "abysmal."
Someone woke up on the wrong side of the bed 🛏️. Douchy comment 🤡🤡. HATER 😤
The lab was part of it. Read articles
Alonso and Burnes is next
Evan is dedicated.
Senga isn't even throwing yet, Peterson is up and down, Montas is more down than up and trying to convert Holmes. Do you feel good about that? I dont...
Mets got HOSED!
🤠😃😀😂😆
U trippin 😂
this is a better signing moreso than montas. we've seen what manaea can do. sadly, same with montas
They need at least one more guy a good picture not these crap guys they signed who might work out
😂😂😂😂....who?
Corbin Burnes is much better than Sean Manaea who has a 4 ERA. Not an ace!
The rotation isn’t good enough to compete against the Dodgers and Phillies
U r a joke. We smashed the Phillies last year and did better against the Dodgers than the hapless Yankees. Now we will have a healthy senga and a new ace.
@ last year is last year you fool. The Dodgers kicked our ass with there pitching and they have gotten better now pitching. Even the Yankees are better than us with all the moves they done. I’m a realist. The teams that win had elite pitching and we certain don’t
@EstebanOrtizIII-d1n is that why Soto left the Yankees lol 😆 😂 🤣
Manea for 1 year. 3 years ? Hmmmm
So Butto is strictly a reliever or a trade piece
Honestly.....Butto might be the best piece in the rotation
Overpaid 😂
Salty
@ salty? I am Dodgers fan😂
Evan, you really happy with this signing? With all the starting pitchers out there , signing him is what your happy about???? Come on bro , this staff is garbage
Manae over Buehler? #DUMB
So an average pitcher your all excited about. The Mets have below average starting rotation. Holmes and Montass in your rotation is not getting you anywhere. Are these guys on something. Nothing to get excited about here
They're not done
@user-yg9sc6gc1r we will see. They could use Burns. Now that would be a great move. As we stand now that's a bottom 10 starting rotation. With the investment in Soto, for them to go anywhere they need to drastically fis that rotation.