In 6th grade I wrote a story that very closely follows these steps for the heroes journey. At the time I had no idea, I just wanted to write a compelling story, at the time I read many books so I perhaps intuitively wrote like this. I got offered by the principal to publish this story but I refused because I felt my story wasn't good enough to be published. Thinking back to that story I wrote I realise now that I wrote a full, engaging and coherent story without even realising and I'm kicking myself because I lost it.
I'd dive back into that outlet and write something new, who knows what's bubbling, waiting to come out and surprise you (and perhaps the world) even more
Hero’s journey can help with anyone’s OUTLINE ,, because the reaction from the hero to every stage is what draws readers in more .. Hercules and most mythical journeys fit this 100% Star Wars Hits every stage prolonged , so perfectly
Rocky is always refusing to fight. That’s part of what makes him such a compelling character. We all know he can fight, namely he can take so much punishment and keep getting up and moving forward. I think in nearly every movie, he has that moment, and for different motivating factors. Yeah, they get a little campier and redundant as they go on, but I still think there’s heart in all the sequels. Rocky was and is Stallone’s baby, and it shows in the work.
Excellent video! One nitpic: When describing the climax, you showed scenes from the first act of Legally Blond. A better example would be Elle in the courtroom scene, showing off what she's learned in law school.
I love how there’s imagery of early scenes in films that the narration is describing for later moments in film.. weird… don’t describe the climax while showcasing an inciting incident
I wrote an outline for a book and without knowing it, the story hits these beats. I'm happy to know I had some kind of structure even if i didn't realize it lol Thank you for this video with digestible explanations, this can help stabilize and develope my story better playing with these elements.
I think i know one of the readons Harry Potter was so popular, nearly every year is a new retelling of the Hero's Journey built on the previous Journeys
Imagine writing a script based on this cycle where the hero’s journey is based on an escape from nihilism. It’s compelling enough that it attracts interest and investors with a signed deal. Then under the guise of “a polish” is drastically rewritten without your input as a formulaic beat sheet.
I didn't hear it mentioned, but can some steps in this be out of order? For example, could a film start with the Call to Adventure (step 2) before actually establishing the Ordinary World (step 1)? Along the same line of thinking, could some steps be left out entirely, such as the Resurrection/Rebirth and Reward Phase?
@@filmcourage Thanks! It did answer my questions. It's funny how some writers swear by things, other writers say they are optional, etc. Some say stick with the 3 act, others don't. Some say start with an outline, others don't. Some use the 12-step thing, others don't. Gah!
This is my pet-peeve - this isn’t the hero’s Journey. This is Voegler’s adaptation of it called the writers Journey. No shade on Voegler, his work is great and he never makes the claim as near as I can tell - it’s voices on the internet who keep making the incorrect claim.
That's the zodiac 1Aries arragent start 2torus call to adventure 3Gemini choice to be the hero 4cancer the old teacher 5Leo time to pounce 6Virgo the princess quest 7libra finding balance karma and dhama 8Scorpio first real boss fight 9sagitarius prepare the hunt 10capricorn the final boss 11aquarious recognition of deeds 12pieces happily ever after retirement
I get the reason for the refusal but ffs don't make the protagonist's reason so petty we lose all respect for them, and don't spend half of the first season stupidly running away from obvious reality.
Here is our original video with Christopher Vogler that inspired this video - th-cam.com/video/oNNaMuBOxv4/w-d-xo.html
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I'm no dummy. I listened carefully, and took notes. Thank you, Film Courage. You're like a good friend. You always come through.
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Your "refusal to call" was your lack of intelligence by concluding "I'm no dummy". Good call, keep it up!
In 6th grade I wrote a story that very closely follows these steps for the heroes journey. At the time I had no idea, I just wanted to write a compelling story, at the time I read many books so I perhaps intuitively wrote like this. I got offered by the principal to publish this story but I refused because I felt my story wasn't good enough to be published. Thinking back to that story I wrote I realise now that I wrote a full, engaging and coherent story without even realising and I'm kicking myself because I lost it.
You also probably inferred the structure from movies since many in the 80s and 90s followed that structure.
You had your refusal to call
I guarantee your childhood memory is warped by your ego. Story probably sucked ass.
I'd dive back into that outlet and write something new, who knows what's bubbling, waiting to come out and surprise you (and perhaps the world) even more
Hero’s journey can help with anyone’s OUTLINE ,, because the reaction from the hero to every stage is what draws readers in more ..
Hercules and most mythical journeys fit this 100%
Star Wars Hits every stage prolonged , so perfectly
This is going to be a video I watch alot. Thank you for putting this together.
Thank you! We'd like to think it is worth a second watch!
@@filmcourageyour channel single handedly has taught me how to tell story, resulting in one of the fastest growing channels on youtube. Thank you.
Some really great editing here.
Watched it twice and took notes; great work Film Courage.
Thank you very much! We had fun working on this. Great to see you find such value in it.
this is worth gold
Very grateful
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My absolute favorite REFUSAL OF THE CALL is in ROCKY when he turns down the big fight.
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Rocky is always refusing to fight. That’s part of what makes him such a compelling character. We all know he can fight, namely he can take so much punishment and keep getting up and moving forward.
I think in nearly every movie, he has that moment, and for different motivating factors. Yeah, they get a little campier and redundant as they go on, but I still think there’s heart in all the sequels. Rocky was and is Stallone’s baby, and it shows in the work.
Thank you, Film Courage.
Excellent video!
One nitpic: When describing the climax, you showed scenes from the first act of Legally Blond. A better example would be Elle in the courtroom scene, showing off what she's learned in law school.
Thanks James! You caught us! In some cases we had to make some tough editorial decisions!
every time i watch this video i understand something greater about myself and the world around me, thank you!
Thank you! We put a lot of time into this one. Love to hear that you are gaining insights from this video and that you have watched it more than once!
I needed this. thank you!
Wow terrific editing. Really great and inspiring. I’m going to spend the night working on my script!
Thank you so much! Love to hear this will help you write tonight!
I love how there’s imagery of early scenes in films that the narration is describing for later moments in film.. weird… don’t describe the climax while showcasing an inciting incident
WOW. Thanks for such amazing content!!!!
Thank you.
I wrote an outline for a book and without knowing it, the story hits these beats. I'm happy to know I had some kind of structure even if i didn't realize it lol
Thank you for this video with digestible explanations, this can help stabilize and develope my story better playing with these elements.
Thanks! Best of luck moving forward!
I think i know one of the readons Harry Potter was so popular, nearly every year is a new retelling of the Hero's Journey built on the previous Journeys
Great stuff as always. Thank you ❤
Very good fitting video work. Thank you, you guys are great.
Thanks Emilio!
Oh wow, excited for this one!
Succinct, and wonderfully illustrated. You could call it a checklist, but you'd be selling the ideas far short of what they deserve. Thanks.
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Great video 🎉
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Excellent
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excellent.
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Imagine writing a script based on this cycle where the hero’s journey is based on an escape from nihilism. It’s compelling enough that it attracts interest and investors with a signed deal. Then under the guise of “a polish” is drastically rewritten without your input as a formulaic beat sheet.
You guys are out-doing yourselves.
Which of these movies would you love to watch right now?
very interesting thank ytou
Can this be used for novel writing too?
I didn't hear it mentioned, but can some steps in this be out of order? For example, could a film start with the Call to Adventure (step 2) before actually establishing the Ordinary World (step 1)? Along the same line of thinking, could some steps be left out entirely, such as the Resurrection/Rebirth and Reward Phase?
Hi Scotty, we believe Christopher Vogler answers your questions in this video - th-cam.com/video/4kyhi6jDvso/w-d-xo.html
@@filmcourage Thanks! It did answer my questions. It's funny how some writers swear by things, other writers say they are optional, etc. Some say stick with the 3 act, others don't. Some say start with an outline, others don't. Some use the 12-step thing, others don't. Gah!
What is your favorite part of this video?
This is my pet-peeve - this isn’t the hero’s Journey. This is Voegler’s adaptation of it called the writers Journey. No shade on Voegler, his work is great and he never makes the claim as near as I can tell - it’s voices on the internet who keep making the incorrect claim.
This good
Thank you!
This is really good, thanks for this compilation
Thanks Ye Rabbit!
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That's the zodiac 1Aries arragent start 2torus call to adventure 3Gemini choice to be the hero 4cancer the old teacher 5Leo time to pounce 6Virgo the princess quest 7libra finding balance karma and dhama 8Scorpio first real boss fight 9sagitarius prepare the hunt 10capricorn the final boss 11aquarious recognition of deeds 12pieces happily ever after retirement
Surely following this structure is what’s leading to so many story’s feeling predictable these days 🤔
You may take interest in this one - th-cam.com/video/4kyhi6jDvso/w-d-xo.html
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Stage 9: going through the shit pipe.
I get the reason for the refusal but ffs don't make the protagonist's reason so petty we lose all respect for them, and don't spend half of the first season stupidly running away from obvious reality.