What is Dzogchen with Yongey Mingyur Rinpoche
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- In this video, Mingyur Rinpoche briefly introduces Dzogchen, distinguishing it from two other well-known Tibetan Buddhist approaches: Mahamudra and Mahamadhyamaka. In his characteristically approachable way, Mingyur Rinpoche draws on a story of his father, Tulku Urgyen Rinpoche, to help present this profound meditative system.
This teaching is an excerpt from the W Dzogchen Immersion, one of the Vajrayana Online courses: learning.terga...
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It’s great to see that he isn’t afraid to introduce a bit of esotericism to this channel, where most have probably been attracted by more secular use of language. Dzogchen/Mahamudra are beautiful, powerful traditions.
Yeah i'm intrigued to see if he goes further with this! How do I learn more on Dzochen and should I get a teacher?
Its just braking all attachments from intelectual concepts, even attachment of concept of meditation... Good luck to all.. In their journeys...
@@JoshuaRichardson123in addition to James Low, you might check out Lama Lena. Their styles are very different but both are direct, accessible, and have a lot of depth of experience with reputable Tibetan teachers. Having a teacher is really important in Dzogchen because the teacher points out the nature of mind to the student directly, non-conceptually. It is often recommended to try to avoid reading a lot of books about it in the beginning, as it’s easy to just layer more and more concepts instead of cutting through to direct experience.
Another option is to join Mingyur Rinpoche’s Tergar learning system. It will take a few years to meet the preliminary requirements to study Dzogchen formally through that path, but what a fruitful journey, Enjoy your explorations!
@@JoshuaRichardson123 You need teacher with real line of introduction and then direct introduction from him to you ) . Today very few masters give this. YMR (i guess) can give it but this is great respocibility an he must be confident in student.. Due to this tradition all teachers have direct line of knowledge from Guru Garab Dordzhe..
If you have no teacher. practice can arise more problems then benefits ....
@@JoshuaRichardson123 never practice vajrayana without a qualified master.
I know you won't see this but after meeting you, seeing you in action walking around and talking with you in your room at the Garrison Institute, our conversation and your question about the nature of the mind was a turning point for me in my practice. I knew what i had to pursue more specifically. I stayed in my tradition but that 13 minutes and 11 seconds i was allotted changed everything. I hope I see you again and let you know my answer now that I have one.
I like how he illustrates dzogchen not by some technical discussion of what rigpa is, but giving an example of cutting from his own experience. First time I watched this I was like, huh, he didnt...actually say what dzogchen is? But now I watch again and I appreciate what he just did
I love to hear our beloved Rinpoche recount stories of his father. How fortunate to grow up in Dzochen and have a wise teacher there from the start. It took me decades to painfully strip away falsehoods and misconceptions of my Western tradition and climb over Eastern cultural hurdles before I got a glimpse.
Turning his head to the right when recalling the view from the window.I could see how clear the image was from his eyes.A truely blessing soul.
he doesn't believe in the existence of the soul , this is apparent from the dogmas of his religion
@@kubagrazel9554 You've missed my point but it's fine.I've read all of your commends,it seems you don't agree with buddhism.It's fine too.
@@marthamartha9277 Ok. It is not a question of whether I agree or disagree. I just see inconsistencies and internal contradictions in this philosophy or religion if you prefer. I have nothing against Buddhism
@@kubagrazel9554 Buddhism does, indeed, teach that there is no fixed, permanent unchanging soul. Hindus call this soul "Anatmata." Buddha taught the lack thereof, which he called "Anatma." It goes along with his teaching that there is not fixed, unchanging, impermanent, or eternal anywhere in the universe. Thus, he also did not believe in God as most people understand it. And, while he did not believe in Gods, he did not advocate worshiping them much, because they too are not fix, eternal, or permanent. Those kinds of views are known as "etrernalism," which is not what the Buddha taught. In that way, it is different from. any other religion that I know of, and I know about a lot of them.
@@kubagrazel9554 You are talking about 2,500 years of tradition practiced over huge stretches of Asia, many of which did not communicate with each other for centuries, and then about a century of different traditions arriving and evolving in the west, too. So yes, there will be contradictions. And, certain Buddhist schools thrive on contradiction, they think it is a way to jolt people out of ordinary thinking. But the lack of eternalist that you speak of is quite consistent in, at least, the oldest form of Buddhism, the Therevada. It is just hard to wrap your mind around until you have studied it, and, preferably, meditated on it, for a while.
cutting through or trekchö is the main point here, and it is simply done by relaxing mind and body for a second. completely. this interrupts the flow of thoughts and concepts.
it can be repeated as often as you naturally remember. but beware: it is radical and effective, like the entire dzogchen approach. better look for a teacher, to not keel over on this bumpy ride!
very well read texts from ancient traditions of all kinds you can find on samaneri jayasara´s yt channel (playlist mahamudra, dzogchen etc.).
and as someone mentioned down here, lama lena is a great teacher, especially for westerners!
best wishes!
Wow! Thank you for the recommendation.
trekchö is more than just relaxing the mind and body for a second... it is a continuous practice and involves resting in the nature of mind which has to be pointed out to you by a teacher.
@@CJ-ff1xq by resting body and mind you "experience" resting in the nature of mind - that which is pointed out to you by an accomplished teacher if you are fortunate enough to find one. later on this practice gains momentum and extends to states of thoughts and non-thoughts, physical rest and physical motion, emoting and non-emoting ... .
@@felice9907 Okay, I think we are talking about the same thing, just in different ways. I wouldn't reduce it down to just relaxation of body and mind, that was my main point. If I just gave someone those instructions, we could not call that practice "trekchö". I was fortunate enough to have received direct introduction by a good teacher as well. Working with a teacher is very important for this stuff. All the best!
@@CJ-ff1xq you are right, thank you!
My son wishes we would have been Indian meditation masters who also knew how to cook Indian food, (his favorite).. Alas, we were good, loving, quietly spiritual,people but busy too. He feels he wouldn't have undergone the excessive struggles when tragedy befell us and the years it took in finding his way.
His dream childhood sounds wonderful and as much as I wish I would have done better, I know I did my best at the time. Thank for this. I like and enjoy your very much. ✨
Bless all mums ♥️
It's all destiny . Leave all unknowns to a higher power
He should learn Dharma. It will liberate him from delusions and teach him not only to embrace this human life, but to be extremely grateful for it, as it is the optimal for practicing Dharma.
You sound like a loving mother and should not feel any disappointment as you have done your best. These wishes of his are outrageous, but can still become possible!
He can learn to cook Indian food today and he can learn Dharma (spiritual practice) today. There is nothing to be sad about.
He has the right circumstances and should not create this ideal or fiction story that goes like: "if I had such and such circumstances I would be such and such person". That is nonsense.
Study, practice and realize Dharma today. These fictional stories are not useful. Dharma is about change from within, and we must become skilful in turning any circumstances into fruitful one's for Dharma practice. We don't need to live in a cave in a mountain secluded from society, or live in India, etc. We have gained this optimum human rebirth. The time is now.
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The view. The path of liberation is step by step. Teckture. Cutting through the paradigm of structure. I received this teaching from the dzoichen rinpoche in kiluin.
My mind becone rainbow
Yes like a rainbow,exist...but not realy exist
So if cutting through the paradigm of structure is possible it means that he who achieves that is experiencing what exactly?
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He cant answer your question, he became a rainbow 😂
The world is ready and needs these teachings
Super clear and concise explanation Mingyur ❤️❤️🌞🥰
Through dzogchen you realise the space of your awareness as well as reality. Phenomenon, simultaneously arising within the space of rigpa. Eventuality you get so good at it that this recognition is effortlessly achieved. You become the space of the internal experiencer. And you go so far into this space where you realise what the buddhas are saying. You understand theirs no difference between a buddha and a sentient. You realise the essence of where the potentiality for both buddha and sentient. You realise the nature of it very profoundly, which when you first realise it, you go into shock of anxiety but you then as an advanced trekcho practitioner, go into it again and again and you realise buddha nature and that it doesnt make a difference whether youre an ant or Samantabhadra or what. It doesnt matter. What would it matter when you see buddha nature. You see the condition for the potentiality for a buddha or a sentient, its all the same, you see where that came from. True buddha nature
I adore this man and his wisdom!
Derealization and depersonalization from the Dzogchen point of view
I had spontaneous experiences of both early in my life (8 to 10 years old)
and now when I try to maintain presence in all daily activities
derealization and depersonalization are slowly starting to emerge.
Are they the goal in Gurujoga practice for example?
Is this something I should experience and deepen these experiences, or are they treated as an error in practice?
You are the happiest man in the world
Good to hear your stories again!
Thank you to have clarified, in my mind, the difference between Dzokchen and Mahamudra.
Me too! Rinpoches ability to explain everything in such simple terms just shows what a wise master he is. 🙏🙏
Absolutely great. He´s a rock star. Dzogchen is so simple it´s hard to grok. Even Milarepa couldn´t do it so he had to do the gradual path, Mahamudra.
Thank You Rinpoche
Tashi delek 🙏 and thank you.
What a mystical concept 🙏 I don’t know how and what explain for this concept , but this master tip make me feel illusion and true at the same time 😮
The dzochen rinpoche I was with him the rainbow body rinpoche cutting through . I received the dzochen teachings directly from the dzouchen rinpoche. The mingyur rinpoche
Bravo! Beautiful! Homages! 🧚🏻♂️🧚🏻♂️🧚🏻♂️ JAR
“Naturally resting is the genuine shamatha of not creating anything artificial whatsoever, of simply remaining in the experience of emptiness. And vipashyana means not to deviate or depart from that state.” ~Tulku Urgyen Rinpoche (Rainbow Painting)
Can you do more guided meditations? Please!
Wonderful concise intro to Dzoghen!
I must be stupid. I didn’t understand it.
@@skybaby444No you are not stupid! Dzogchen and Mahamudra are among the most profound Buddhist teachings, very few would be able to apprehend them after such short introduction.
@@djsteel56 please explain sir. View is fake meditation is fake. Statement
@@SandeepKumar-hk1lv Bear in mind this is my interpretation so it will be limited as I am a Dzogchen student not a teacher. As all Buddhist training is progessive in nature, Dzogchen is no different. So you have start out using concepts such as view and meditation ( the whole idea of dismantling conceptual thinking one of the main purposes behind Dzogchen). As your experience in the Dzogchen training and practice deepens it can lead to a realisation that view and meditation are only relative truths that lead to the absolute. This is what I think Tulku Urgyen was illustrating by using the word "fake"
@@djsteel56 thank u so much sir. It means alot very helpful. Best of luck for ur practice
An interesting lesson....thank you...
thank you!
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Brilliant thanks!
I love you! Thank you 🙏
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Numerous Dzogchen and Mahamudra practitioners attain Rainbow Body enlightenment. 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
I'm new to buddhism what does rainbow body enlightenment mean
@@jackiesindel5278 They voluntarily leave the body and body disappears into thin air. Or body will shrink comparatively. After Mahapari Nirvana one stays for months in meditation. Body do not rot and remain as life like. Subtlest consciousness remain in the body till head bends or other signs. There is grosser level of consciousness and it is sensorial consciousness which we know and experience it. There are subtler levels of consciousness during dream, sleep, faint, coma etc. We need to explore subtler level consciousness to be able to free our sense of I.
rainbow body its a product of dzogchen thogal practice
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So the view and the meditation were fake because it was a big picture instead of a window to a mountain scene, or was your father speaking figuratively? And that is a good example of dzogchen because most of what we think is our real life life is just a fake story we make up? I'm not sure if I understand this one.
His Father was literally "cutting through" any conceptions his son had about view and meditation. That points directly to our intrinsic awareness, Buddha nature, Dharmakaya, or the various other terms used to signify that. It is pure, timeless, empty awareness, (cognition).
Thank you, Rinpoche. Much appreciated!!
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🙏🏼Thank you .;. Thought of 1 beforehand.,. Your own life's path ! For reasoning your truth.,.🙏🏼😌👌🏼
thank you sir
blessed
Namo Guru Vajra Yogini
And where comes the tantra teaching in Buddhism? So interesting.
They will say second Buddha Padmashambhav introduced tantra to buddhism and then there is another second Buddha, Einstein of india, Nagarjuna.
So to introduce any teaching, just claim yourself to be second Buddha.
Yes, but how do you actually practice Dzogchen?
You really help me.
Not much more to say, except, of course, thank you. 😊🌻
If you want some thorough "cutting through" introduction in absence of personal interaction with a master, read _"Ask the Awakened - The Negative Way"_ and _"All Else is Bondage"_ by Terence James Stannus Gray _("Wei Wu Wei")_ .
What togal pratice ? How work it ?
What does he mean when saying "view"? Is it about view of mental activity or view of outer world objects? Or may be it is about something else? And I didn't quite understand what cutting through concept means. Can someone shed light on the subject?
and that's what all this religious magic is about, that they use general terms under which you can put any meanings, metaphors, it's such a clever fairy-tale manipulation; but after all, form is emptiness, emptiness is form, brother;) everything changes and transforms all the time, it is impermanent, the meaning of this statement is that there is no view, even though it is; for Buddhists if something changes it must mean that it does not exist, that is their confusing view; with which I disagree
As far as I understand it, the view in Dzogchen is abiding in the state of non-attachment and loving acceptance of all thoughts, experiences, or perceptions. Check out Our Pristine Mind by Orgyen Chowang Rinpoche for a very well written description of Dzogchen practices and teachings!
Also, cutting through concept is seeing that awareness itself is independent of conceptualization, so by seeing that we are not of concept, we can unlearn what we think we are and uncover the reality of our essential aware being.
@@ethanmiller6564 the claim that consciousness itself is independent is an empty argument and a dogma. awareness is only a means, a tool for knowing, for assimilating knowledge; absolutizing consciousness is a flawed concept that must be trimmed; Buddhism is full of absurdities; but existential philosophers better expressed man's confusion in the world, concepts, concepts, choice, loneliness, meanness, etc. Buddhists talk nicely about compassion, love, kindness, but I have not heard them loudly criticize the caste system; because there is karma, so it has to be like that; this is another dogma and concept that needs to be cut, it's that simple;)
@@kubagrazel9554 What does awareness depend on to exist? How much can we remove conceptually before we come to the essence of awareness, the fundamental nature of consciousness?
What is left when we remove our names? Our history? Our beliefs, attitudes, emotions, thoughts, and identifications? You can actually do this and see what is left. It is pure awareness, or rather, that which knows experience but which is not an experience or concept itself. The television screen does not depend on the movie for it to exist.
This is the one thing that is *not* a concept. That formless reality to which the word "awareness" points cannot be reduced. Can words truly give knowledge? Can symbols perfectly grasp the reality which they represent? These are just concepts in the mind, objects in perception, so no. You said yourself, we must shed concepts to see the truth. This is the view. To connect with that which *is* fundamental to ourselves, that which is not of thought, belief, or identification. It is unconditional being, unconditional love, and it is what you are whether you see it or not.
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Buddy, without existence there is no awareness. You use empty phrases like "the essence of awareness, the fundamental nature of consciousness" which explain nothing. Buddhists treat consciousness as an absolute; because without the absolute, no religion can exist, that's understandable. You write: "It is pure awareness, or rather, that knows experience ...", and therefore you yourself admit that for consciousness to exist, you need experience, and therefore existence. Besides, consciousness evolves along with spiritual development, but not in every human being. However, the cases of mentally handicapped people, people with dementia, are not so easily explained. Yes, of course, karma, but this is dogma, because religion does not exist without dogma. Buddhism does not express itself on the subject of the Creator-God, but it accepts worlds where deities live, and the world of hells, etc.
As a child, we have a different consciousness, as adults, we have a different consciousness. And unfortunately not everyone is "unconditional being, unconditional love". There are many wicked people, without empathy, selfish people without love, and they don't have inborn goodness. And no theory of awareness can explain it. There are bad people and there are good people. And it is useless for you to connect with the fundamental essence of consciousness if you are a poser, egoist, narcissist or some other kind of dick.
I don't quite understand the teaching from his father - anyone care to explain?
Dzogchen relies on the recognition of pure, timeless awareness and it is always present. His Father was literally cutting through his concepts. It is a simple, yet very profound and unique pathless path. Dzoghen means great perfection and the intrinsic awareness is actually the Dharmakaya without fabrications or elaborations.
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I don't really understand. The view is fake, meditation is fake?
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All that arise, cease. Sadhu. Namo Amitabha Buddha~
The empty nature of the mind is beyond impermanence. Impermanence belongs to relative world, it's a teaching giving in the first turning of the Wheel.
I wish I could get a useful instruction. I hate how the teachings of this tradition get kept locked up.
They are definitley not locked up but you cant expect the teaching to knock on your door hehe
There comes a time when reading about how to practice ends and only the experience is left
Entering into the state of emptiness will liberate one into nirvana and thus cross over to the other shore
The shore where there is no concepts and no perceptions
Just feeling genuine reality with the body and mind. Connected to the earth
The earth becomes the teacher
One only needs to see the perfection in her beauty
Nirvana is already emptiness as Samsara is. We have to perceive the non - dual reality of this.
@@buddhistphilosopher800 but isn't nirvana the extinction of all mental formations and perceptions.
I see emptiness as more like the key that opens up into the gate of the ultimate reality of interbeing....
Please elaborate?
@@jSpirituS7 That's the Nirvana pointed out by the Buddha for Arhats not for the Bodhisattvas. Bodhisattvas follow Shunyatha expresed in the Prajñaparamita
@@buddhistphilosopher800 what is it that you practice during meditation to find that state of mind. To reach letting go... I need more information to be able to understand these concepts better to practice and get the full benefits
@@jSpirituS7 I'm not in that point, I'm not capable to efectively practice Dzogchen. Also requires a teacher. If you want know more on this topic I suggest you the channel of Lama Lena.
With a thought to any of the confused responses on this post, Dzogchen is basically impossible to practice without a teacher…. We get in our own way far too easily….. when YM Rinpoche talks about Trekcho, this is the practice of cutting through our conceptual life in order to see the true nature of mind but without help this is very difficult, as we end up trying think our way round this as we would any problem solving exercise; THIS IS NOT THE POINT OF DZOGCHEN!To anyone who has interest, try to find a Dzogchen teacher to help you, there is no substitute as far as I can see!
Thanks for the honest advice, but at least it would have been interesting to understand this to Dzogchen, this "huh" experience he had, which is not explained. Personally I did not understand.
Thank you SiSwitzer for taking the time to help people here understand the context to this short talk which was NOT an introduction into Dzogpa Chenpo! Thank you!
@@highmaxdezboru82 To be clear. This was not an introduction into Dzogchen. Being introduced into Dzogchen by a master is something completely different and will only happen when the student is ready. I think your reaction was completely honest and appropriate given the nature of the speech. The level of confusion in the comments here is on a monumental level. And that is as it should be. Dzogpa Chenpo and Chagya Chenpo (Mahamudra) are the two most advanced practices of all the teachings of the Buddha. It is not something one can comprehend through analysis or thought processes. It is something that one will be introduced to after having gone through all the previous stages of purification and accumulations of the more general paths. The so called “view” is something that will reveal itself after many years of extensive practice.
@@Roldanmattei Yes I agree, it can happen. But it will most likely not happen to most people without any previous training given the long history we all have in samsara. The layers of mental habitual patterns will in most cases be to thick to be cut through in an instant like that. But nothing is impossible since we don’t know what karma we have in store for us since earlier lives.
On an ultimate level all you have said is correct, as far as I understand. In reality though it will not manifest all at once for most people even if we have been introduced to the essence (Ngotrö) by a qualified master. That’s one reason students are encouraged to engage in yidam practices although the may have had very profound experiences of the natural state in order to stabilize the realization. Are you familiar with the differences between the terms “togpa” and “njam”?
Or very similar to Dzogchen pointing out instructions are Loch Kelly's glimpse practices and Douglas Harding's "headless way" experiments. Once the view is recognized the stability needs to be cultivated.
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There is nothing to do but remain in the view.
what if instead of a prison, it's a house for the mind. a place to go back to, so to feel "normal" again. like after a long journey of the mind. some people in real life don't ever leave their village or house or country. so, yeah.... IDK i guess. just speaking my mind from what this video inspired me to say. I'm no expert
upgrade the house of the mind by going on journeys and to "schools" and bringing back stuff to upgrade the hut to a lodge, then a house, castle, finally space station etc
Rimpoche, are you the one who got enthroned by Kyabje Dilgo Khyentse at Kharbandi Bhutan in 1983 or 84
I was lucky and had a ten-day meditation retreat led by this guy. He seemed really cool, and his teachings seemed down to earth and thus mostly easy to understand.
But I do not understand this. It sounds like the kind of thing you get from zen teachers, like "Listen carefully to everything that I say and then forget it immediately." That kind of teaching via paradox never did much for me.
And, I have had other retreats led my westerners who were influenced by Zog Chen but were not as skilled at teaching in that tradition as he is. And I still have no idea what some of the things they said meant.
This explanation about that there is nothing to meditate on, calls for another explanation.
Which would call for another one, which would call for another...👌
Yeah correct
You mediate upon yourself. The real self.
That's the whole point of meditation...
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Wish to know the words in 1:24-1:26
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Hey cool, I think I get it. 😃
Gravity falls?
same im so lost
It’s like seeing Jesus and experiencing the Holy Spirit
Ordinary people cannot replicate the successful model
Saying it means not saying it
Spontaneous Rigpa happened involuntarily. Oh for that to be permanent.
2.35 what did he say here?
Fake, fit or freak?
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This is clearly a scholarly individual. Is he familiar with the work of Wilhelm Reich? How would he deal with the issues raised? Is Yongey also a scholar of the development of patriarchal civilisation?
Lol a schollary individual who did like 12 years of meditation retreat. The first 3 year retreat when he was 13, the last 4 year retreat wandering as a beggar through india and nepal.
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Dzogchen sounds very similar to zazen
Yet so different
Explain
@@nedstarkravingmad1799 please do your own research. In short, there are few major differences. One of them, for example, is how relative (thoughts, perceptions, feelings and emotions) are treated which is related to the base. Then the path is also different. Dzogchen is not just about shamatha-vipashyana or emptiness aspect but has a lot to do with energy. So therefore there are possibly dozens of methods exclusive to it. And therefore fruit is also different which is a great transference of 🌈 body.
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Dzochen lineage is right view come to mahamudda the dzouchen teaching. Teck chu cutting through box the prison of house. Yongyey rinpiche got from his dad. Me and my father having lunch looking at valley.
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The view is fake, the meditation is fake. Great Wisdom.
Something with this recording /video is odd, it felt like he wasn't really into it
the beauty lies in the eyes of the beholder.
don't get flipped, watch it.....go watch it with attention.....
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So girls, watch out for black eyes, Sogyal Rinpoche was very good at this.
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