I bought this same tent just recently and one thing I've been doing differently is putting the straps under the cover instead of over. I thought that was the way the design was intended to work and it could also explain why the straps seem too short for you. The velcro seems to hold the cover on just fine by itself. I've driven with it on the freeway at 80 mph with no problems. Not even a hint of the cover coming off. Oh, and thanks for sharing your video with us.
We used a Gobi rack because our Jeep has a soft top. The cross bars do make it easier to install. We also switched the ladder to a CVT telescoping ladder.
I've had similar LED problems. A few easy solutions are to wrap the LED with cloth or duct tape of your preferred color over it. I promise if you do this you'll start using that LED again and it'll be super useful.
I have this tent. Love it. I finally figured out what the extra bungees are for (collapsing the tent) making it easier to pack down. But how do you use the 2 extra straps That have the clip hooks like the rain tarp. What in the world are they for???
I’ve used a buddy heater safely in an rtt (both soft shell and hard shell) just fine. I only use mine for 5-10 minutes to preheat the tent before i get inside and before i get out of my sleeping bag. Definitely best to have a good cold weather rated sleeping bag but having a heater warm up the tent before you move around is nice when it’s cold out
I've bought a lot of smittybilt stuff for my jeep also. I read a lot of negative criticism about multiple products, but I've always been satisfied with their products. Great video as always.
@@TrailRecon True. They are very good for their price when compared to some of the competition. I guess it depends on what the imperfections are and if those cons could be accepted. I have the same XRC rear bumper as you have on your XJ and the only con I came across was the release latch not engaging. I just had to drill an offset hole on the lever so the connecting pin engages immediately, I could deal with that imperfection, and considering the bumper was 1/2 to 1/3 the price of other products, I'm satisfied
Thank you, Brad, for sharing this information. I'm switching from backpacking to car camping as age is catching up with me. I presently use a Smittybilt tarp and a Kamp Rite tent cot but am searching for the right rooftop tent. I like the idea of a clam shell set up since my vehicle is a compact Jeep SUV. It'll be worth saving for one. It's pretty exciting watching your videos and your overland adventures and would love to do it. After looking at a late model Rubicon and a Gladiator I will have to stick with the mild mannered car camping. Going back to work is not an option as I love my retirement.
You videos are exactly what I like. Man I enjoy what you're doing. Bring us amazing videos of you adventures, you gear, and you nice Jeeps. If I had the opportunity to do this I would. Thanks man!!!
Hi there.. On.considering changing from a swag setup to a rooftop for me and the dog in Australia for when we go out bush but not sure how the ladder will go with the dog.... have you tweaked the ladder?
@@timeisnow9855 I just lift the dog up my arms and climb up 2 steps and put her in there. To get her out I stand on the 2nd step and pull her into my arms/ chest . No modifications needed
I watched your Video while sleeping with my family in our brand new Overlander XL. Great review. We built a trailer for ours and are using it while traveling on a Christmas road trip to visit family back in Michigan and Kentucky. We are super happy with ours so far, we have our Christmas tree set up in the annex, Running a Mr. Heater and staying totally cozy and comfortable in 20°F Michigan weather. I have never slept this good in a "tent". Definitely excited to get back home to Colorado and take our setup out into the mountains.
The last question was the deal breaker for me.... I've been chewing on both styles... Definitely going to continue to save and buy once cry once for the clam shell style! Awesome review!!!
Thanks for the RTT update, Brad! I had my eye on the Smittybilt for the price and the weight and after watching your many videos with it on top. Then I found Tepui has one (Explorer Ayer 2) that is a few hundred more ($1,050) , but only weighs 95 lbs.! It also has an annex with a floor (another $265), which is a must when the puppy travels with us. I'm adding a 15 gal water tank and propane tank on top, so the lighter the RTT the better.
We have the Smittybilt rooftop tent and its amazing so far! we got it this year an we've been camping all summer in the Florida keys. Thanks for ur recommendations.
great video. im shopping for a tent for a Cayenne and one thing not mentioned in the video is the footprint while closed. i too would prefer a hardsheel but then the tent would extend over my winshield. the tent you have has a smaller footprint while closed so it doesnt hang over the roofline and is also a bigger sleeping area when opened. im 6'2" so thats important
I ran the XL aversion of this tent on the off road trailer I built and pulled with my JK. I found it tedious to set up and the ladder was a pain as you mentioned. For the money though, it’s a great tent! Working on getting a hard shell now.
@@AmericanJeeper I have the ruggedized 3 person Autana version. The base is made from diamond plate and fits 3 comfortably up top. With the bottom annex on you have a completely enclosed, floored room with enough space for a full sized air mattress or cot, the dogs, gear, or pesky kids if need be 😁. With having all girls it also doubles as a good changing room. The ladder itself is much different being that it is one that telescopes into itself and have had no issues other than a mounting bolt backing off. I've had the tent on for two seasons now and have never taken it off the Jeep and it has held up as good as the first day it was installed. For the record I live in Nevada so it has now gone through to snowy winters, 100 degree summer days, not to mention some horrendous wind storms while hunting.The only gripe I would have would be the cost at more than double what the cost of the XL Smittybilt version. I will be posting a walkthrough of my rig here soon. Anyhow cheers mate and safe travels.
Great review. I’ve a similar looking one here in South Africa. It’s useful having it hang down over the back of my Land Rover Defender because it provides a covered workspace when the back door is open, even more so when the add a room is on. You can then get from inside the tent to getting things out of the back of the Landy without getting exposed to the elements. With rain falling sideways my canvas type side panels get wet and transfer that damp to the bedding. In very strong winds the section that covers the tent entrance comes off the poles that hold it out. The tent gets unbearably hot mid day in sun and you can’t rest in it. It needs to be covered by a reflective blanket to solve that. Also prefer mine on my trailer so I can drive around easily.
Another awesome video Brad! There are so many great channels here but yours has everything, from informative reviews to epic trails and destinations you rock Brother!
Nicely done Brad! I always like your honesty when reviewing products. It means a lot to your viewers. I gave up back packing and camping because I didn't like sleeping on the ground anymore. This is making me reconsider camping with the Jeep again.
I was a backpacker for many years, plus all my time spent out it in the field with the Marines and I'm really not interested in sleeping on the ground anymore, but a roof top tent and mattress... that's the way to go! Thank you!
Thanks. Great video as always. I have my 23Zero Byron 4 person California King delivered on the 26th. Really excited about it. Glad nothing about this video is making me regret my purchase ;-). Mine will be on top of my InTech Pursue Flyer so that our family of 4 can camp comfortably without having to set up a ground tent.
I think the question: "would you buy it again" is probably the best question. Because if you would buy it again, means that you were so happy with it that no matter what little bugs it may have weren't serious enough to change your mind about buying it! Thanks for doing the pros and cons. Because I had just watched the video when you first got it and gave specs and initial impressions. Thanks for the honest feedback! I think I liked the one you done a review on that Marco has on his new 392 Diesel Jeep Wrangler and trailer and rooftop tent. I liked the fact that he could enter in from the bottom. I wonder how he's liking that one? Do you think he would give you some feedback on his set up after having it for a while now? I think he also had the 270 degree awning. I wonder, over all, how he is liking his rooftop, awning and trailer set up? I'm not sure I would want a trailer dragging behind me. There seems like too much inconvenience when you are doing trails. I'm sure it does have a great place if you aren't doing anything too technical on the trails, but it sure would make it difficult in backing up and turning around! He always seems to have it when I see him on the trails with you, so I wonder if he regrets having it behind him sometimes? Plus, I wonder how he is liking the diesel Wrangler and if he is having any problems with it overheating on some of the steep sandy trails?
I have had one since they first came out... I'm thinking it has been like 4 years. I got mine new on the tread lightly auction for 400.00. I agree with the durability comments, it has been in everything, including snow... and it has only one small rip in the rain fly that happened when a branch came down on it. I have mine mounted to a trailer as opposed to the Jeep, so the ladder is never as high. I had one issue... when it was folded up the mattress is kind of exposed to the elements if the cover was off... and I simply cut a piece of tarp to glue in the gap, and it has worked fine. My cover did not come with any straps... so I have used a couple of giant bungies. If you need more air for breathing, there are two top windows on mine that are screened in that can be opened as well for letting air keep flowing. I think you gave it a fair review!
Thanks for the video. I'm thinking of buying one and set it up on my F-150 when I do the 3 ocean tire dip, Pacific, Arctic and Atlantic. About your ladder stiffness try a silicon spray. I have been using silicon spray on all the moving parts of our market tents (12) which we've had for 10yrs and it eliminates all jamming of the tracks and joints. Cheers.
Great review Brad, we just put the Smittybilt on our Armada and are looking forward to getting out on the road. We did a lot of research and like you said, there are a lot of high prices one can pay for a RTT. I am like you, we want a clam shell style because it is quick and easy, but they are expensive $2,000 plus. The reviews we watched on the Smittybilt were similar to yours and the quality was good, especially for the price, and getting started in this new Overlanding type of travel was new and we weren't even sure we would like doing the RTT. If we like it, and I think we will, we will hand this one down to my son and get a nice hardtop clamshell RTT. Sometimes you just need to get started! We enjoy your channel a lot. Thanks, David.
Thank you! Honest and succinct!! I'm saving for the clamshell version myself...one on Amazon is in the $1600 range...for a lot of the reasons you mentioned...and I have a 2 door jk.. and it's just me 99% of the time anyway. Truly the clamshell version is all I need. The set up is so appealing as well. My biggest issue is solving the middle of the night nature calls (I'm over 50 now...so you know...) but like I've done for decades...I suppose the dedicated bottle handles it. I just dont like the idea of climbing up and down a ladder in the middle of the night (sometimes more than once) for safety. Thanks again- for all of your channel content.
I love mine I bought it after watching your video it’s maiden voyage was to blue ridge overland gears spring meet up. minus the ladder and climbing all over my Jeep to get it put away it’s been a great tent. I wanna get a hardshell RTT next
The straps that help hold the cover on aren't ment to weave between the buckles. I have a CVT tent and in their instruction it says not to weave them. I've never weaved mine and the velcro holds just fine...esp since not weaving them allow to he longer.
Very informative follow up review. I think the quality of the ladder is directly related to the lower cost. More expensive tents appear to have much better telescoping ladders.
Great video Brad! Appreciate the content and quality again, cant stress that enough! I love your attention to detail, all of the details! Might be the military back ground but it is much appreciated!
Brad, thanks for the subjective review. Good information is always helpful when making purchasing decisions especially when considering high dollar items. There is an RTT in my future but being more of the base camp type I have an overland trailer to build first. Thanks again for the content Michael
I have the XL Smittybilt based on yours and the couple with Wobley Otters youtube channel. We have it on a trailer and love it. We also have the annex, awning and use the Mr Heater buddy too. But then like you said, we base camp then trail. We don't like packing up everyday.
Which roof top tent is best suited for overlanding? A hardcamp shell or that flip rooftop tent? And do you remove your foam, pillow comforter etc on your roof top tent or do you leave it in when you close the tent?
I have a similar tent from CVT and have used it for two years now. I have zero complaints about the tent. However, like you, I'd love to have a hard shell tent. The only issues with them (for me) are the price and the weight. I've not found a lighter hard shell tent than my two man CVT and I really don't want more weight up top. And they cost 3 or 4 times as much, at least the ones I want do (cough, cough, James Baroud). Someone below mentioned AluCab but those are super heavy!
If the time comes to buy a hardshell, weight and price will be important factors to considers. There are a few choices out there, but hopefully some other manufactures will start producing them.
New Subscriber here! Just want to thank you for such a comprehensive review. I just purchased this tent as well for my 2 door rubicon. I'm really hoping it is as great as it looks. I am 6 foot 6so we will see how i fit haha. Thanks again.
Nice honest review Brad. I’m with you...I would want to save my money and purchase a Alu Cab. I’m sure there are used ones in great shape out there for a fair price. A RTT is definitely on my bucket list.
I'd take a look at the Ursa Minor it's pretty slick for the "budget is no problem" crowd. I still need to do my suspension, and wheels/tires, and get lockers/compressor, and get a fridge, totally nothing else to get first! Luckily my hammock means I'm still able to stay off the ground ;p
Nice review, I really like it and found the information to helpful as I am shopping a RTT and this is one of the ones I am looking at. The last question, for some people, including me, a cost of 3 to 4 times what you paid for this tent, could be a year or more of saving. Also almost all Clam Shells are too long to fit my trailer without an overhang or over the bed of a midsize short box pickup. For me they are not even in the running.
Not to sound risque but will it hold up if I rock the thing around with my lady? I worry I'd bend it were both under 200 pounds I just ordered one don't Wana break it having adult time
I think the solid camptop is a better idea you can put solar panels on the and the sides a foam insulated roof too just my thought as a design engineer
I have a tacoma sr access cab truck and planning on a trip from LA to Boston with stop at oshkosh for a week next july....I'm looking at a truck bed tent (Kodiak canvas) or a roof top tent to go over the bed....not sure which to get.
I have the same tent. I never considered running those straps over the cover. I run them all under the cover and have never had a problem with the length of straps that way. Are you sure they go over the cover? It got below freezing one night when we used it, had no problem sleeping in it with 30 degree sleeping bags. I actually got hot and removed some layers, much better than sleeping on the ground. I live in a small town house, have not taken it off yet. Have only owned it for a few months. I'm 6'1, 250lbs and me and my wife sleep up there no problem. Ladder holds up fine to my weight. My only real complaints are the gas mileage and I would buy a better rack to put it on. I got the smittybilt. I am going to rig up a wind deflector before we do a 7500 mile trip next year to see if that helps. Love your videos, one day hoping to get out west to hit some of the places you have.
When you were showing the footage of the ladder i couldn't help but be reminded of those infomercials where people are trying to do thing like open jars or bottles and it's the hardest thing on earth. Hard to open pickle jar OOHH NOO !!! you'll NEVER get that open. Try the jar handle by Wham-O guaranteed to open any pickle jam with ease. Bit wait there's more jar handle opens bottles too no more spilt orange soda
The only follow up questions is what plans does the future hold for you and this RTT? Any mods coming? Did you ask Santa for a hard shell? Inquiring minds would like to know. Merry Christmas to you and yours!
I wish Santa was bringing me a hard shell, but I hear his budget it tight this year. Lot's of adventures to come in 2019 and this tent will get plenty more use. Merry Christmas!
Hi Brad, Thank you for all your videos. You always do a great job in detail on everything you talk about!! Totally trust your opinion on everything!!!👍
Not only do you have to consider the cost of the tent but also a rack/rack system. Something like the Rhino Rack can cost as much or more than a tent. A Gobi will cost around $1500 and take more than 6 months for it to be made.
@@TrailRecon Oh, I agree. Perhaps you could do a video on the other uses of a roof rack? Maybe that will help others decide if a rack (and a RTT) is a viable choice for them.
Smittybilt makes a roof rack for around $350.00. No need to spend 1500 for a rack. My smittybilt roof rack works well, will hold the smittybilt tent. Just saying.
I have the same tent as well and happy with it. I do like the hard shell pop ups but with a 2dr its not a option. They are all longer then the Gobi platform and im 6 foot so any that did fit would be just to cramped
Very knowledgeable video, as I just bought the same roof top tent. I am going the route of a trailer matching my JKU theme, maybe a bit different then others w 37’s...cuz everyone need those. LOL Again thanks Brad for the great videos...!
Hi Brad - Thanks for the update on the tent. I’ve been eying this tent for a while now. The price is very attractive! One problem for me - STORAGE. When you take it off the Jeep, how and where do you store it? It has a pretty big footprint. Thanks!
Great review! We are planning to venture into the over landing and RTT area and this seems like a great tent to start with to see if we really like it.
I want to get a tent for my Jeep but I’m concerned with the structural aspect of it. I currently have Thule 400 set of racks but I worry about putting stressing knowing that all the wait would rest on the top garter rails. PS awesome work on pros and cons.
I know I’m about a year late here but this was insanely good information. I am new to this sort of stuff and looking for a roof tent, had my eye on the roofnest falcon... any other recommendations for roof tents? Should I go cheaper, or save up and get one like the falcon (hard shell, clamshell)?
Hi Brad, I've had my roof top tent, same as yours, for a few months. My first trail was Big Bend, Texas. I love it. Just a little description of myJeep, 2017 JKU Sport, 2.5" lift, 33" by 12" K02 tires. The reason I went with 2.5" lift and 33" tires is my gearing, 3.21. I am planning a trip to Moab this Sept. or Oct. Because of the setup on my Wrangler, What trails, in your opinion, should I be hesitant to stay away from? I've been on most of the trails in western Colorado, but my first time off roading in Moab.
Would this tent be able (at least temporarily) to support it's occupants if the ladder was removed (knocked out by an animal or human) or would the occupants then fall down. Also sorry if I may be overthinking it, but what about lightning? Or would the tires provide enough insulation for this not to be a problem? But then again, what about the ladder, that is connected and touches the ground?
Thank you for another great video, I have the Smittybuilt Roof Top on my list with Leitner's Design Rack for my Ram.. Can you pull the LED light out and mount it on the outside / under the rainfly?
Soo...what exactly is the $800.00+ benefit to sleeping off the ground? I get that there may be some sort of issue with wildlife, but taking a piss in the middle of the night has to be a PITA. For $800.00+ I can handle sleeping on the ground. Besides the weight/cost savings, you get your roof rack back.
don't have to worry about flat terrain or doing a full tent set up every night. bed is already made with this, just close it up and move to the next spot. plus it can open up some room in your car depending on how youre travelling and what type of car you have.
I bought this same tent just recently and one thing I've been doing differently is putting the straps under the cover instead of over. I thought that was the way the design was intended to work and it could also explain why the straps seem too short for you. The velcro seems to hold the cover on just fine by itself. I've driven with it on the freeway at 80 mph with no problems. Not even a hint of the cover coming off. Oh, and thanks for sharing your video with us.
We used a Gobi rack because our Jeep has a soft top. The cross bars do make it easier to install. We also switched the ladder to a CVT telescoping ladder.
I've had similar LED problems. A few easy solutions are to wrap the LED with cloth or duct tape of your preferred color over it. I promise if you do this you'll start using that LED again and it'll be super useful.
Bought the same RTT after seeing your video after purchasing it. Has been a great tent for me. Gotta love that ladder lol
What was your choice of rack to mount it on please and why?
I have this tent. Love it. I finally figured out what the extra bungees are for (collapsing the tent) making it easier to pack down. But how do you use the 2 extra straps
That have the clip hooks like the rain tarp. What in the world are they for???
I’ve used a buddy heater safely in an rtt (both soft shell and hard shell) just fine. I only use mine for 5-10 minutes to preheat the tent before i get inside and before i get out of my sleeping bag. Definitely best to have a good cold weather rated sleeping bag but having a heater warm up the tent before you move around is nice when it’s cold out
Heating up the tent before rolling out of the sleeping bag on a cold morning would be a very nice reason to use one!
I've bought a lot of smittybilt stuff for my jeep also. I read a lot of negative criticism about multiple products, but I've always been satisfied with their products. Great video as always.
I've had a Smittybilt winch on my Jeep for one 3 years and it has served me well. There are some pro and cons to their products.
@@TrailRecon
True. They are very good for their price when compared to some of the competition. I guess it depends on what the imperfections are and if those cons could be accepted. I have the same XRC rear bumper as you have on your XJ and the only con I came across was the release latch not engaging. I just had to drill an offset hole on the lever so the connecting pin engages immediately, I could deal with that imperfection, and considering the bumper was 1/2 to 1/3 the price of other products, I'm satisfied
Thank you, Brad, for sharing this information. I'm switching from backpacking to car camping as age is catching up with me. I presently use a Smittybilt tarp and a Kamp Rite tent cot but am searching for the right rooftop tent. I like the idea of a clam shell set up since my vehicle is a compact Jeep SUV. It'll be worth saving for one. It's pretty exciting watching your videos and your overland adventures and would love to do it. After looking at a late model Rubicon and a Gladiator I will have to stick with the mild mannered car camping. Going back to work is not an option as I love my retirement.
Just bought one of these for my Jeep, nice to know about all these specifics
You videos are exactly what I like. Man I enjoy what you're doing. Bring us amazing videos of you adventures, you gear, and you nice Jeeps. If I had the opportunity to do this I would. Thanks man!!!
Love 1 year later reviews.... provide the most value - thanks!
What roof rack/tent combo would fit an XJ?
i love this tent, ladder is strong, holds me, 300lbs and my 60lb dog up(when i put her up in the tent)
Hi there..
On.considering changing from a swag setup to a rooftop for me and the dog in Australia for when we go out bush but not sure how the ladder will go with the dog.... have you tweaked the ladder?
@@timeisnow9855 I just lift the dog up my arms and climb up 2 steps and put her in there. To get her out I stand on the 2nd step and pull her into my arms/ chest . No modifications needed
Cheers. You still rocking the rooftop?
Great questions, the Fuel consumption seems to be the one issue that keeps popping up. I will be trwoing this on a trailer.
Great update! Just bought the bigger one for my family and I. Excited to do some camping in it this year.
I super glued those little rubber caps on the window polls for my CVT. They get lost way too easy.
I have a roof top tent that I have on my Subaru Outback and I love it.
Which tent do you have?
I watched your Video while sleeping with my family in our brand new Overlander XL. Great review. We built a trailer for ours and are using it while traveling on a Christmas road trip to visit family back in Michigan and Kentucky. We are super happy with ours so far, we have our Christmas tree set up in the annex, Running a Mr. Heater and staying totally cozy and comfortable in 20°F Michigan weather. I have never slept this good in a "tent". Definitely excited to get back home to Colorado and take our setup out into the mountains.
The last question was the deal breaker for me.... I've been chewing on both styles... Definitely going to continue to save and buy once cry once for the clam shell style! Awesome review!!!
You can tape a translucent strip along the led and it'll dull the light out into a more soft amount of light.
Thanks for the RTT update, Brad! I had my eye on the Smittybilt for the price and the weight and after watching your many videos with it on top. Then I found Tepui has one (Explorer Ayer 2) that is a few hundred more ($1,050) , but only weighs 95 lbs.! It also has an annex with a floor (another $265), which is a must when the puppy travels with us. I'm adding a 15 gal water tank and propane tank on top, so the lighter the RTT the better.
We have the Smittybilt rooftop tent and its amazing so far! we got it this year an we've been camping all summer in the Florida keys. Thanks for ur recommendations.
great video. im shopping for a tent for a Cayenne and one thing not mentioned in the video is the footprint while closed. i too would prefer a hardsheel but then the tent would extend over my winshield. the tent you have has a smaller footprint while closed so it doesnt hang over the roofline and is also a bigger sleeping area when opened. im 6'2" so thats important
I ran the XL aversion of this tent on the off road trailer I built and pulled with my JK. I found it tedious to set up and the ladder was a pain as you mentioned. For the money though, it’s a great tent! Working on getting a hard shell now.
Great to know I'm not the only frustrated ladder user!
Yes sir, but great tent and it’s taken you quite a few places!
Spend the extra money for a Tepui. I have the Autana 3 person ruggedized rtt with the annex and it is a breeze to setup and put away.
Jay Noneofyourbiz I have heard good things about those tents. I am looking at a hard shell-Roost
@@AmericanJeeper I have the ruggedized 3 person Autana version. The base is made from diamond plate and fits 3 comfortably up top. With the bottom annex on you have a completely enclosed, floored room with enough space for a full sized air mattress or cot, the dogs, gear, or pesky kids if need be 😁. With having all girls it also doubles as a good changing room. The ladder itself is much different being that it is one that telescopes into itself and have had no issues other than a mounting bolt backing off. I've had the tent on for two seasons now and have never taken it off the Jeep and it has held up as good as the first day it was installed. For the record I live in Nevada so it has now gone through to snowy winters, 100 degree summer days, not to mention some horrendous wind storms while hunting.The only gripe I would have would be the cost at more than double what the cost of the XL Smittybilt version. I will be posting a walkthrough of my rig here soon. Anyhow cheers mate and safe travels.
One way to tell this guy "loves" offroading and overlanding... his pages are stuck together 👊😜
Thanks for the review!
Great review. I’ve a similar looking one here in South Africa. It’s useful having it hang down over the back of my Land Rover Defender because it provides a covered workspace when the back door is open, even more so when the add a room is on. You can then get from inside the tent to getting things out of the back of the Landy without getting exposed to the elements. With rain falling sideways my canvas type side panels get wet and transfer that damp to the bedding. In very strong winds the section that covers the tent entrance comes off the poles that hold it out. The tent gets unbearably hot mid day in sun and you can’t rest in it. It needs to be covered by a reflective blanket to solve that. Also prefer mine on my trailer so I can drive around easily.
Another awesome video Brad! There are so many great channels here but yours has everything, from informative reviews to epic trails and destinations you rock Brother!
You rock! Can't wait to get back out on the trail after the holidays!
The rooftop tent is the way to go in my opinion. Thanks for the info on your tent.
I have the same tent. I love mine. I have it on a rack on the bed if my truck with an awning. .
Another great review Brad. Really appreciate your unbiased content vs. some of the other channels that simply pimp product for the manufacturers.
Thank you!
Nicely done Brad! I always like your honesty when reviewing products. It means a lot to your viewers. I gave up back packing and camping because I didn't like sleeping on the ground anymore. This is making me reconsider camping with the Jeep again.
I was a backpacker for many years, plus all my time spent out it in the field with the Marines and I'm really not interested in sleeping on the ground anymore, but a roof top tent and mattress... that's the way to go! Thank you!
As Far as the Sticking ladder goes, you can spray dry silicone in those channels.
Thanks. Great video as always. I have my 23Zero Byron 4 person California King delivered on the 26th. Really excited about it. Glad nothing about this video is making me regret my purchase ;-). Mine will be on top of my InTech Pursue Flyer so that our family of 4 can camp comfortably without having to set up a ground tent.
You guys will love your new tent and all that room with a California King will be awesome!
Great video. Disliked our ladder too. I run the xl with awning. I bought the 8’6” from Tepui and replaced it. 😀
How you like the XL? That’s the one I’m looking at getting
@@vinniedennywini8126 Absolutely love it, and aplogies for the delay, was off the grid in the tent! :)
I think the question: "would you buy it again" is probably the best question. Because if you would buy it again, means that you were so happy with it that no matter what little bugs it may have weren't serious enough to change your mind about buying it! Thanks for doing the pros and cons. Because I had just watched the video when you first got it and gave specs and initial impressions. Thanks for the honest feedback!
I think I liked the one you done a review on that Marco has on his new 392 Diesel Jeep Wrangler and trailer and rooftop tent. I liked the fact that he could enter in from the bottom. I wonder how he's liking that one? Do you think he would give you some feedback on his set up after having it for a while now? I think he also had the 270 degree awning. I wonder, over all, how he is liking his rooftop, awning and trailer set up? I'm not sure I would want a trailer dragging behind me. There seems like too much inconvenience when you are doing trails. I'm sure it does have a great place if you aren't doing anything too technical on the trails, but it sure would make it difficult in backing up and turning around! He always seems to have it when I see him on the trails with you, so I wonder if he regrets having it behind him sometimes? Plus, I wonder how he is liking the diesel Wrangler and if he is having any problems with it overheating on some of the steep sandy trails?
I have had one since they first came out... I'm thinking it has been like 4 years. I got mine new on the tread lightly auction for 400.00. I agree with the durability comments, it has been in everything, including snow... and it has only one small rip in the rain fly that happened when a branch came down on it. I have mine mounted to a trailer as opposed to the Jeep, so the ladder is never as high. I had one issue... when it was folded up the mattress is kind of exposed to the elements if the cover was off... and I simply cut a piece of tarp to glue in the gap, and it has worked fine. My cover did not come with any straps... so I have used a couple of giant bungies. If you need more air for breathing, there are two top windows on mine that are screened in that can be opened as well for letting air keep flowing. I think you gave it a fair review!
Great suggestion about the tarp to cover the exposed mattress, thank you!
Thanks that is what I am getting. I love your Jeep nice!
Thanks for the video. I'm thinking of buying one and set it up on my F-150 when I do the 3 ocean tire dip, Pacific, Arctic and Atlantic. About your ladder stiffness try a silicon spray. I have been using silicon spray on all the moving parts of our market tents (12) which we've had for 10yrs and it eliminates all jamming of the tracks and joints. Cheers.
Been looking at these for a year now...finally dropped under $500 and I think it's time to pull the trigger!
Ryan Bertoldi link?
Great review Brad, we just put the Smittybilt on our Armada and are looking forward to getting out on the road. We did a lot of research and like you said, there are a lot of high prices one can pay for a RTT. I am like you, we want a clam shell style because it is quick and easy, but they are expensive $2,000 plus. The reviews we watched on the Smittybilt were similar to yours and the quality was good, especially for the price, and getting started in this new Overlanding type of travel was new and we weren't even sure we would like doing the RTT. If we like it, and I think we will, we will hand this one down to my son and get a nice hardtop clamshell RTT. Sometimes you just need to get started! We enjoy your channel a lot. Thanks, David.
Thank you! Like you, I may be handing down my RTT to one of my boys as well if I ever get my hands on a hardshell.
Thank you! Honest and succinct!!
I'm saving for the clamshell version myself...one on Amazon is in the $1600 range...for a lot of the reasons you mentioned...and I have a 2 door jk.. and it's just me 99% of the time anyway. Truly the clamshell version is all I need. The set up is so appealing as well.
My biggest issue is solving the middle of the night nature calls (I'm over 50 now...so you know...) but like I've done for decades...I suppose the dedicated bottle handles it. I just dont like the idea of climbing up and down a ladder in the middle of the night (sometimes more than once) for safety.
Thanks again- for all of your channel content.
I love mine I bought it after watching your video it’s maiden voyage was to blue ridge overland gears spring meet up. minus the ladder and climbing all over my Jeep to get it put away it’s been a great tent. I wanna get a hardshell RTT next
It's been a great tent, but I'm looking forward to the ease of use of a hardshell as well.
The straps that help hold the cover on aren't ment to weave between the buckles. I have a CVT tent and in their instruction it says not to weave them. I've never weaved mine and the velcro holds just fine...esp since not weaving them allow to he longer.
The velcro won't hold the straps any longer, usually comes apart driving down the freeway, so weaving them is the only way to secure them.
@@TrailRecon Gotcha!
Very nice Brad... excellent assessment. I've been contemplating RTT and decided to wait to put it on a trailer. I'm going with a SWAG for now.
Very informative follow up review. I think the quality of the ladder is directly related to the lower cost. More expensive tents appear to have much better telescoping ladders.
Great video Brad! Appreciate the content and quality again, cant stress that enough! I love your attention to detail, all of the details! Might be the military back ground but it is much appreciated!
Please make a video about things to be consider when lifting your jeep wrangler. lift kit, tires, driveshaft, gear etc. Thanks
I've got a few videos talking about tires, lift kits, gears and driveshaft... just do a search on my channel page.
Brad, thanks for the subjective review. Good information is always helpful when making purchasing decisions especially when considering high dollar items.
There is an RTT in my future but being more of the base camp type I have an overland trailer to build first. Thanks again for the content Michael
Thanks for the follow up video, really cool idea, thanks for the update.
Thanks for answering my question!!! I bought a James Baroud a couple of months ago but it hasn’t arived yet.
Happy trails Brad be safe out there.
I have the XL Smittybilt based on yours and the couple with Wobley Otters youtube channel. We have it on a trailer and love it. We also have the annex, awning and use the Mr Heater buddy too. But then like you said, we base camp then trail. We don't like packing up everyday.
Having it on a tailer is the way to go if you base camp. I will say it's nice when you don't have to pack up everything each day.
This is what I've been waiting for!
Thank you for your review. This has been a huge help while shopping for a tent
Which roof top tent is best suited for overlanding? A hardcamp shell or that flip rooftop tent? And do you remove your foam, pillow comforter etc on your roof top tent or do you leave it in when you close the tent?
No one asked the real important question.... How long does it take a fart to dissapate with all windows zipped up?
I would try to rub some candle wax on the ladder rails to provide some lubrication for it to slide easily.
I have a similar tent from CVT and have used it for two years now. I have zero complaints about the tent. However, like you, I'd love to have a hard shell tent. The only issues with them (for me) are the price and the weight. I've not found a lighter hard shell tent than my two man CVT and I really don't want more weight up top. And they cost 3 or 4 times as much, at least the ones I want do (cough, cough, James Baroud). Someone below mentioned AluCab but those are super heavy!
If the time comes to buy a hardshell, weight and price will be important factors to considers. There are a few choices out there, but hopefully some other manufactures will start producing them.
New Subscriber here! Just want to thank you for such a comprehensive review. I just purchased this tent as well for my 2 door rubicon. I'm really hoping it is as great as it looks. I am 6 foot 6so we will see how i fit haha. Thanks again.
Welcome aboard!
Nice honest review Brad. I’m with you...I would want to save my money and purchase a Alu Cab. I’m sure there are used ones in great shape out there for a fair price. A RTT is definitely on my bucket list.
If I come across a used All Cab at a great price it may just find its way to the top of my Jeep!
I want a RTT but will be stuck with a ground tent for another year or 2, love the review.
It will be worth the wait! Thank you!
The Sarge look at the Kamp Rite series.
I've looked at those, someone in our club has one and he loves it.
The videos keep getting better man!!!! Keep it up
Thank you!
Another great video Brad. Thank you for all the info. Will save up for the clam shell style tent for sure
I'd take a look at the Ursa Minor it's pretty slick for the "budget is no problem" crowd. I still need to do my suspension, and wheels/tires, and get lockers/compressor, and get a fridge, totally nothing else to get first! Luckily my hammock means I'm still able to stay off the ground ;p
I've drooled over the Ursa Minor more than once, just out of my budget. Tough to beat the comfort of a hammock!
TAPE OVER SOME OF THE LEDS...EASY FIX...WHAT SUPPORTS THE FLOOR OVERHANG/??/IS IT THE LADDER??
I'm probably grabbing this tent too. I will probably grab a dimmer for that light
Nice review, I really like it and found the information to helpful as I am shopping a RTT and this is one of the ones I am looking at. The last question, for some people, including me, a cost of 3 to 4 times what you paid for this tent, could be a year or more of saving. Also almost all Clam Shells are too long to fit my trailer without an overhang or over the bed of a midsize short box pickup. For me they are not even in the running.
I wonder if you could possibly fit a higher quality replacement ladder from another RTT.
I weigh 335lbs and my brother 280 and we both have been up there’s no problem same tent
Man I've been waiting on this video forever. Thanks so much! Been wanting to buy this for a long time.
Not to sound risque but will it hold up if I rock the thing around with my lady? I worry I'd bend it were both under 200 pounds I just ordered one don't Wana break it having adult time
Make a TH-cam video of it and we'll all know the answer
Clint mcfarland hahahahahahahahaha
It holds up to 300kg for like 600+ pounds
Lmao 😂
Get a sticker that says “if this tent is rocking don’t come knocking”
I think the solid camptop is a better idea you can put solar panels on the and the sides a foam insulated roof too just my thought as a design engineer
Wonder if they have updated this tent. Especially the ladder.
My cover straps broke.
I use ratchet straps for multiple uses on the trail. That ladder sucks, but oh well I guess. Lol
Good info, Thank you. I've been debating what type of roof top tent to purchase. Once again, thank you.
I have a tacoma sr access cab truck and planning on a trip from LA to Boston with stop at oshkosh for a week next july....I'm looking at a truck bed tent (Kodiak canvas) or a roof top tent to go over the bed....not sure which to get.
I have the same tent. I never considered running those straps over the cover. I run them all under the cover and have never had a problem with the length of straps that way. Are you sure they go over the cover?
It got below freezing one night when we used it, had no problem sleeping in it with 30 degree sleeping bags. I actually got hot and removed some layers, much better than sleeping on the ground.
I live in a small town house, have not taken it off yet. Have only owned it for a few months.
I'm 6'1, 250lbs and me and my wife sleep up there no problem. Ladder holds up fine to my weight.
My only real complaints are the gas mileage and I would buy a better rack to put it on. I got the smittybilt.
I am going to rig up a wind deflector before we do a 7500 mile trip next year to see if that helps.
Love your videos, one day hoping to get out west to hit some of the places you have.
For me, I like to have them over the cover just in case the velcro ever decides to give while I'm driving down the highway. Thank you!
I can see it moving over to the xj if & when you move up to a clamshell
XJ will need a roof rack first!
@@TrailRecon good project for you and the boys maybe even make your own always fun to try new things
When you were showing the footage of the ladder i couldn't help but be reminded of those infomercials where people are trying to do thing like open jars or bottles and it's the hardest thing on earth.
Hard to open pickle jar OOHH NOO !!! you'll NEVER get that open. Try the jar handle by Wham-O guaranteed to open any pickle jam with ease. Bit wait there's more jar handle opens bottles too no more spilt orange soda
Can you leave your blankets sleeping bags and pillows in the tent and collapse it or do you have to remove them when you close it?
Josh Greff leave them in
The only follow up questions is what plans does the future hold for you and this RTT? Any mods coming? Did you ask Santa for a hard shell? Inquiring minds would like to know.
Merry Christmas to you and yours!
I wish Santa was bringing me a hard shell, but I hear his budget it tight this year. Lot's of adventures to come in 2019 and this tent will get plenty more use. Merry Christmas!
Hi Brad, Thank you for all your videos. You always do a great job in detail on everything you talk about!! Totally trust your opinion on everything!!!👍
Thank you very much!
Not only do you have to consider the cost of the tent but also a rack/rack system. Something like the Rhino Rack can cost as much or more than a tent. A Gobi will cost around $1500 and take more than 6 months for it to be made.
A very valid point, but you can do a lot with a roof rack besides just mounting the tent up there.
@@TrailRecon Oh, I agree. Perhaps you could do a video on the other uses of a roof rack? Maybe that will help others decide if a rack (and a RTT) is a viable choice for them.
Smittybilt makes a roof rack for around $350.00. No need to spend 1500 for a rack. My smittybilt roof rack works well, will hold the smittybilt tent. Just saying.
I use to have a Smittybilt roof rack and it would not hold the static and dynamic weight needed for a roof to tent.
@Brad @TrailRecon --Did you get your beefier rack at front runner
I have the same tent as well and happy with it. I do like the hard shell pop ups but with a 2dr its not a option. They are all longer then the Gobi platform and im 6 foot so any that did fit would be just to cramped
Great review thank you.It was very helpful.I especially liked when you mentioned the cost per night! Never thought of looking at it that way.
Very knowledgeable video, as I just bought the same roof top tent. I am going the route of a trailer matching my JKU theme, maybe a bit different then others w 37’s...cuz everyone need those. LOL
Again thanks Brad for the great videos...!
Hi Brad - Thanks for the update on the tent. I’ve been eying this tent for a while now. The price is very attractive! One problem for me - STORAGE. When you take it off the Jeep, how and where do you store it? It has a pretty big footprint. Thanks!
Thank you! Agree, it has a big footprint and I store it in my garage.
Great review! Thinking of this for my ‘13 Pathfinder.
Great review! We are planning to venture into the over landing and RTT area and this seems like a great tent to start with to see if we really like it.
Appreciate the honesty.
I want to get a tent for my Jeep but I’m concerned with the structural aspect of it. I currently have Thule 400 set of racks but I worry about putting stressing knowing that all the wait would rest on the top garter rails. PS awesome work on pros and cons.
I know I’m about a year late here but this was insanely good information. I am new to this sort of stuff and looking for a roof tent, had my eye on the roofnest falcon... any other recommendations for roof tents? Should I go cheaper, or save up and get one like the falcon (hard shell, clamshell)?
Hi Brad, I've had my roof top tent, same as yours, for a few months. My first trail was Big Bend, Texas. I love it. Just a little description of myJeep, 2017 JKU Sport, 2.5" lift, 33" by 12" K02 tires. The reason I went with 2.5" lift and 33" tires is my gearing, 3.21. I am planning a trip to Moab this Sept. or Oct. Because of the setup on my Wrangler, What trails, in your opinion, should I be hesitant to stay away from? I've been on most of the trails in western Colorado, but my first time off roading in Moab.
Quick fix for that led brightness,get some window tint cut it to the size of the clear plastic and slide it in there.
That's a good solution, but my little led lantern works perfectly for me.
Would this tent be able (at least temporarily) to support it's occupants if the ladder was removed (knocked out by an animal or human) or would the occupants then fall down.
Also sorry if I may be overthinking it, but what about lightning?
Or would the tires provide enough insulation for this not to be a problem?
But then again, what about the ladder, that is connected and touches the ground?
there's telescoping ladders on amazon or from other RTT companies, maybe you can replace your ladder
It's something I've considered and if I decide to keep this tent long term, it's something I'll probably do.
Thank you for another great video, I have the Smittybuilt Roof Top on my list with Leitner's Design Rack for my Ram.. Can you pull the LED light out and mount it on the outside / under the rainfly?
The LED strip has a velcro backing, so you could easily rig it up to the outside of the tent.
Soo...what exactly is the $800.00+ benefit to sleeping off the ground? I get that there may be some sort of issue with wildlife, but taking a piss in the middle of the night has to be a PITA. For $800.00+ I can handle sleeping on the ground. Besides the weight/cost savings, you get your roof rack back.
don't have to worry about flat terrain or doing a full tent set up every night. bed is already made with this, just close it up and move to the next spot. plus it can open up some room in your car depending on how youre travelling and what type of car you have.
Ahhh, to be young again 😊. Aside from the confort benefits, the quick setup and breakdown when you're out on the trail can make all the difference.
thanks for this review! keep up the good work