The Biggest Eastern White Pine Trees In Massachusetts (Champion Tree Hunting)

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    This video is a nature documentary on the largest Eastern White Pine tree in Massachusetts and the extinction of New England's Eastern White Pine mega-forests. It is part of a series of videos I make on Champion Trees. This one also includes a visit to the Peace Grove, where some of the tallest remaining white pines in the world are growing.
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  • @jackgilchrist
    @jackgilchrist 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Being from the Pacific Northwest it's hard for me to be too impressed by the size of white pines, but they are beautiful and important trees and I appreciate the history. I'm also a descendant of the Mohawk chief Hendrick Tejonihokarawa, so I especially enjoyed hearing the Native history and associations.

  • @sargon6948
    @sargon6948 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Great video. The forests of Chautauqua and Conewango and other sections of Upstate New York and Ontario were so grand in the early 1800s, some writers of the county histories who remembered then before they were all cut, likened them to the Redwood and great fir forests of the West. Some of the dimensions they reported are actually shocking, like 200-250 feet, even 268 ft long, trees that could yield thirteen 16 foot logs, plus discarded top, trees that could measure 5 to 8.5 feet in diameter, or a stand of pine that could cut 30,000 to 100,000 feet in an acre! Figures so huge to the point that many tree scholars today simply cannot believe the old accounts - the sense of scale has diminished so dramatically, today a large Pine is considered to be 150-160 feet, and maybe 4 or 5 ft diameter. Today 200 feet or taller is considered mythical in some circles. In the forests of Ontario, 150 feet was standard growth, and many were 210 ft tall and 5 to 7 feet diameter c. 1870s according to Dr James Brown of Arniston, one of the early foresters of the 19th century who wrote the Bible on practical forestry. He was Inspector of woods at Port Elgin, Ontario in the 1870s-1880s and wrote "We have measured many of them as they lay felled on the ground" and that the larger ones, 210 ft 5-7 feet diam, would yield 350 to 425 rings.

    • @tonydalton8712
      @tonydalton8712 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I just cut down 4 big 80 feet tall, 12 feet around eastern with pines, that I planted 50 years ago, and it just about killed me I loved those trees, but they were getting so big they could destroy my house if they fell on it. Only got one left far away from the house it will be there till I die, or the wind blows it down...

    • @sargon6948
      @sargon6948 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tonydalton8712 I hear you. Safety is number 1 priority, so you did the right thing. An 80 foot pine could destroy a house, and heaven forbid a 200 foot pine could cut thru 3 or 4 houses.

  • @pamgoodridge7638
    @pamgoodridge7638 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Beautiful! I love trees, too. Just got my "forest" calendar for 2023.

  • @aneventwontkill
    @aneventwontkill ปีที่แล้ว +13

    80% of our lands in Michigan were covered in peak old growth white pine before colonization. The beauty must've been mesmerizing.

    • @JimDeferio
      @JimDeferio หลายเดือนก่อน

      Before "colonization"? By who? By this tribe or that tribe or by the Mound Builders?
      Old reports reveal that the trees in these "old growth" forests had advanced inner decay and that all of the downed wood caused high populations of rodents and which in turn resulted in HUGE populations of ticks.

  • @ctb0001
    @ctb0001 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Reddit brought me here and I'm glad I found your channel! Killer content, brother. Keep creating!

  • @josephmiceli7128
    @josephmiceli7128 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Those trees have magic that I wonder if anyone understands

  • @cobaltusa
    @cobaltusa ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for this video I just recently found this and watched it then today I was working in southwick Massachusetts and right away noticed 5 white pines Big ones then I remembered to check for 5 needles and wouldn't you know it 5 needles. I took pictures but do not know how to share them here. Thank you I would have not even noticed them if I hadn't watched this video.

  • @concerned1313
    @concerned1313 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Just subscribed. Excellent video, good historical significance coupled with accurate speculation, thank you!

  • @APIOQM
    @APIOQM 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video!

  • @ecurewitz
    @ecurewitz 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’ve been in that exact spot, and I was under the impression that that particular grove was never clear cut but managed for generations before finally becoming protected by the state. It’s technically considered an old growth forest, even if it isn’t virgin forest. Mohawk Trail State Forest is a beautiful place. They don’t mark the tallest tree in the state as they want people to stay on the trails.

  • @N8TANIEL
    @N8TANIEL 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Beautiful work!

  • @CosmicAnteater
    @CosmicAnteater 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Found you through Reddit and I’m not looking back. Subbed!

  • @jaredcullen7173
    @jaredcullen7173 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I'd give anything to spend a day walking through an eastern white pine old growth forest, its amazing just walking through a small young stand

  • @ouroya
    @ouroya หลายเดือนก่อน

    slight addendum to the range of these white pines and a cool fact! they grow quite often in the great lakes region, particularly in the LP, and the needles are edible! they taste minty. you can also make a tea out of them if you'd prefer that!

  • @tobiasgartner4551
    @tobiasgartner4551 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Your channel is great! Much love from Germany!

  • @GettingHighWithEZHNO
    @GettingHighWithEZHNO ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Makes me grateful for the ones I have near me in Michigan, I think I have climbed some White Pines here that are bigger than those champions (like the one in my profile pic).

  • @jwright1253
    @jwright1253 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love your big tree videos

  • @randomperson8023
    @randomperson8023 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    great video!

  • @BigPoppa931
    @BigPoppa931 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Another great video

  • @jameswarren1891
    @jameswarren1891 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Captivating. This is better than Tom Scott

  • @aRanDoMMisT
    @aRanDoMMisT 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This so cool. Thanks for sharing such a cool location.

  • @svendb7
    @svendb7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice work

  • @gerbs139
    @gerbs139 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video - do you recall the trail you used to get to the Peace Grove? I've been to the Mohawk Trail State Forest but wasn't able to find the grove via the North Meadow as suggested elsewhere.

    • @cobaltusa
      @cobaltusa ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes I live in Massachusetts and would love to check out the Peace Grove also

  • @nmociahfgow
    @nmociahfgow 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love these videos!

  • @dogsareawesome9197
    @dogsareawesome9197 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Downtown where i live, theres a 130ft tall EWP in a field of similar sized, yet shorter ones. I assume they were all planted in the field like 100 years ago, because they all have huge spreads like the one you mentioned on this video. Not as thick though, theyre all probably 2.5 or 3 feet wide.

  • @battlehamme
    @battlehamme 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great stuff, hooray for trees!

  • @rolandbruno686
    @rolandbruno686 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video. Any chance you can provide the location of the champion?

  • @masoncolby813
    @masoncolby813 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    State website is saying an EWP was entered in 2023 with a 21' circumference and is the current state champion.

  • @Sweetjudiblueyes
    @Sweetjudiblueyes 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The Eastern White Pine is the tree depicted on the “Appeal to Heaven”flag, from the American Revolution.

  • @scottprather5645
    @scottprather5645 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Imagine if we'd had the wisdom and foresight to save five or 10% of the old growth forests in the east.
    I would love to have seen what it was like

  • @samgamgee7384
    @samgamgee7384 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @DimeStoreGuy - I enjoy all your vides, but I live nowhere near your digs. The Peace Grove is the first place that you mentioned that I really want to visit now. Not that I disliked any of the other places you've taken us.
    Also: are you saying like even in the wilds of Siberia there can't be some innocent white pines just minding their own business and never heard the sound of man's ax?

  • @raphlvlogs271
    @raphlvlogs271 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    recognisable by the horizontal branching structure.

  • @thomasjamison2050
    @thomasjamison2050 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A grove of white pines? Once upon a time they called collections of white pines 'a cathedral' of white pines. Down in the Philly suburbs, a state office has a slice of a white pine hanging on the wall that is 10 foot in diameter.

  • @raphlvlogs271
    @raphlvlogs271 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i have seen photos of them growing out of the cracks of abandoned pavements and rooftops.

  • @godstenor770
    @godstenor770 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have one come take a look 450 years old

  • @terrymorton7444
    @terrymorton7444 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    If one excellent place to see several state champions is ice Glen in Stockbridge Massachusetts

  • @BIG_BODWELL
    @BIG_BODWELL 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    looks like park in ware ma

  • @BIG_BODWELL
    @BIG_BODWELL 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i got 5 in my back yard tht size if not bigger in barre ma

  • @Samsjunk
    @Samsjunk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How you going to hunt big trees and not have a drone for a drone shots?!

  • @theashtraybandit
    @theashtraybandit 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dopest dope ever smoked.

  • @paulbriggs3072
    @paulbriggs3072 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Somebody should have told the Mohawks that the White Pine was the tree of peace since they attacked every tribe around them- including their brother Oneidas of the Iroquois.

  • @mikeemerson4284
    @mikeemerson4284 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    There's more Forest land in the United States now than there was when the Indians had it 300 400 years ago so there you go get your facts

  • @danielmorris7648
    @danielmorris7648 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "Trees of peace" our myths of natives are hilariously wrong. Natives first choice of wood used to kill each other and we call them "trees of peace" lol