Israel on the Brink At 75 (Benny Morris) 🎙The Deep Map
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- What on earth is happening in Israel right now?
Widespread protests, political clashes, and rising violence in the West Bank paint a grim picture as the country approaches its 75th anniversary.
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In this episode of The Deep Map, Robert Nicholson visits controversial Israeli scholar Benny Morris to talk about this chaotic moment in historical context, and specifically about the ongoing battle between Israel’s various tribes over the meaning and purpose of a Jewish state.
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Benny Morris is a journalist and historian of the Arab-Israeli conflict who served in the Israel Defense Forces as an infantryman from 1967 to 1969 where he was wounded in combat during the War of Attrition.
In his 12 years as a correspondent for the Jerusalem Post, Benny covered Israel’s conflicts with Arab states, notably the 1982 Lebanon War. He was also a longtime professor of Middle East Studies at Ben-Gurion University and Goldman Visiting Israeli Professor at Georgetown University's Department of Government. His work on the Arab-Israeli conflict has won him praise and criticism from both sides.
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Very elaborative analysis of history, thank you very much Professor Benny Morris.
You are as ignorant as he is.....
Thank you for listening!
This was a great interview. I'd love to hear a part two of this now after the last month's developments...
Great suggestion, David. If you haven't listened to the Deep Map's coverage of the Israel-Hamas War yet, you can find our episodes here: th-cam.com/play/PL70F6JbsYZs-hNhQ-QOuFce66ODU-cK-X.html&si=F9kpMkJs8BlWvOEF
It's a tricky one because the Sephardi presence is a powerful counter to the lazy narrative that Israel is a European colonial project, and the circumstances of the Sephardi influx - pogroms and expulsions from Muslim majority countries in many cases - is a counter (at least for those not already too biased or too lazy to learn) that the Arabs have been the only victims of displacement in the history of the conflict. It's thus a horrible irony that those much-derided Europeans were actually the sanest voices and the last and best hope for peace, and that they are being drowned out in Israel at precisely the time when previously intransigent Arab governments are willing to finally sit down and talk.
I like Professor Benny Morris’s observation that the creation of Israel was illogical. Despite its improbability, Israel came into existence and has thrived.
Everyone in the United States should have to listen to this interview. Congress twice.
Thank you. This was a fascinating interview.
Thank you for listening.
Thank you Mr. Morris
Problem makers: This is what I believe, and so should YOU! If a religion calls for the destruction of unbelievers, that is a problem.
Great interview, thank you! I'm living in Egypt and when I asked some Egyptian Muslims about Israel they tell me that it's only a matter of time before historic Palestine reverts to Muslim control. And after they have control of Palestine again, they will fight to do the same for Al-Andalus (Spain and Portugal). There is no debate with devout Muslims about this. They mostly base this act of jihad on Qur'an 2:191 "And kill them wherever you overtake them, and expel them from where they had expelled you. Oppression is more serious than murder. But do not fight them at the Sacred Mosque, unless they fight you there. If they fight you, then kill them. Such is the retribution of the disbelievers." [Translation from Clear Qur'an].
Expel them from where there expelled you! You just answered your own stupid question......Palestinians did not expel jews. Zionists jews expelled Palestinians. And the right of return for refugees is garanteed by the UN Allah/god and human rights!
Unfortunately some muslim fanatics are cherry picking verses of the Quran to suit thier psychotic and horrific agenda of death. Some Israeli jewish religious fanatics have started mimicking this way of behavior and are attacking Palestinian property and sometimes causing deaths while the Israeli army does nothing to contain the situation.
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Israel har mycket att. Tacka Sovjet-Ryssland för kom ihåg Andrei Gromykos tal i FN 1947, där han framförde Sovjetunionens ledarskikts för dess ställningstagande i frågan om Israels tillblivelse. Jag lyssnar med stor behållning på dig Benny Morris på det du är insatt i, i Palestina-Israel frågan. Tack
my go to historian
Love and appreciate Benny Morris but his analysis of Ashkenazi jews supporing the rule of law while s Spharadic jews suports dictatorships is nothing but ridiculous. It's the Hasidic Ashkenazi jews who have huge families, most families have up to 10 kids, while Sphradic jewish familes have about 5-6 kids.
Sephardic culture is beautiful ❤️😍
exactly, I think he meant more Mizahims and Yemenite Jews. Overall he is an excellent analyst, but I think he oversimplified it. A majority of Hasidim are actually Asheknazis from the US!
@@luciferin22 my point exactly and he also neglected to mention the huge cultural differences between, Spheroidic and Mizrachi Jews.
Not really. Most of those who vote likud and Shas right wing parties are Sephardic and Mizrahi. This has been historically true with the likud since Begin. Haredi jews only make up 13% of israel with the highest birth rate, most of which are Ashkenazi and as you implied would support a theocratic "dictatorship."
Most Ashkenazi jews in israel vote left and are secular
He defined Ashkenazi and he called the Mizrachi and Sephardic as both Oriental as if the Spanish Jews are identical to the Arabic/Mizrachi Jews.
35:22 even I we accept the disgusting analogy, israel would not be a villa in the jungle, it would be a zoo in the jungle. A zoo with 9 meter walls.
So England where there is parliamentry sovereignty is also a dictatorship.
God protect Israel.
American president Carter destroyed the Shah.and all the unrest in the Middle East is the result. The early dismantling of the British Empire began with Roosevelt’s connivance.😊
very shalow and simplifying aproach for the society divide in the country . since the 50's there has been a vast integration and intermarriage between parts of the society, sepharadics and ashkenazy mostly. and today's population is mostly mixed. it is not true that you can look the the croud in the demonstration and decide by the look of them where their parrents are from...as it is not true that the government is sepharadic dominated. the Likud party leaders are mostly and have been throughout the years mostly ashkenazy, the religious parties in the gavernment are also mostly ashkenazy. there goes your therory..
Perhaps it's a necessity that Israel at least somewhat Orientializes so that it can fit in with the Arab nations yet hopefully still retain those Western core tenants of democracy and freedom.
At this point, the idea that Israel is going to continue Arabicizing is somewhat of an inevitability and I think that it is important for secular Israelis to do a rearguard action and maintain a strong minority in Israel as much as you can.
tenets of Democracy…
If the Palestinians are to be banished from Israel it seems to be a situation where retribution can be inflicted by Iran using nuclear weapons without any hesitation. It may seem far fetched but one to consider. It is hoped the two parties come to their senses and co exist as a One State solution.
there is no sense in terror.
No Isreal will instead resemble the Jungle. If one is too be gross about it.
America. Where does she fit in this picture.Or any other picture for that matter.?
....e poi arrivò il 7 ottobre
All what it is about is imperialism in religious clothing and then you can say whatsoever you want , and read poetry about democracy and human rights ect ...
Philos? What a misnomer
A very disappointing point of view from Mr morris. Many inaccuracies and extreme generalization exhibiting radical and racists agenda. A real fall from intellectual grace by Mr morris. Interview Prof Hillel Chohen instead or many others.
what ?he admits that we are engaged in savage occupation...
How dare you speak as though Palestinians are the aggressors. You occupied their land by force, based on a myth.
It's nonsense, there was never a country named Palestine. Now you think after nearly 1 century arabs should risk their own children life's to destroy Israel?! It's craziness. They could have peace decades ago.
Very simplistic thinking, yours.
One thing to clarify: Israhell judiciary as a balance of power in the Israhelly politics has only been valid when israhelly jews were effected. As far as arab Palestinians it has always been acting as the gestapo......
Read the comment above you to understand why :).
Your point ignores the fact that the occupied territories are still occupied due to the unresolved war & lack of peace. Those non-Israeli people are under military rule they are not Israeli citizens, nor do they have their own government. It is a tragic situation.
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Allah said
Allah forbid you to be partners or friends with people that killed you denied you freedom of worship dispossed you and stole your land....
THE ZIONIST DID ALL THAT AND MORE
And in an other verse allah said
But HE DOESN'T FORBID YOU from taking care of and or being friends or partners with people that DID NOT kill you dispossed you stoled your land and houses.....
MOHAMMED (SAS) WILL NEVER DEVIATE FROM THE QORAN THE WORD OF ALLAH/GOD.....Mohammed did not say go steel someone land at gun point and farm it and its yours.....
ZIONIST STOLE LAND IN 1946 THEY OWNED LESS THAN 5% AND WHERE LESS THAN 30% OF THE POPULATION OF PALESTINE...AND THE UN GAVE THEM 51% OF IT..BUT DID NOT TELL THEM TO CHASE AND KILL PALESTINIANS. THE LAND WAS PUT IN THE JEWISH FUND AND GIVEN/ LEASED TO JEWS ONLY....THAT LAND WAS BEING FARMED BY PALESTINIANS.....AND THAT IS THE TRUTH YOU ARE HIDING.....