I have a similar deliciosa that had no fenestrated leaves left on it because it was a complete chop because of cold damage, but the first growth is fenestrated too! Two other growth points on the way too. Super excited to see it unfurl.
This is the same as chopping up any other plant into single node cuttings so of course all nodes will activate their growth point. The only thing different about this is that if you grow thai horizontally / crawling which is its preferred way, you already have or should have those nodes rooted which makes it a nore successful way of propagating. But this is no different than taking single node cuttings on any other plant 😊
It's actually not the dominant sprout sucking up the auxin, but the dominant sprout secreting auxin which is trickling downwards and suppressing growth in the other sprouts.
Don’t get greedy! You already at 5x. My percentage on 1 node cuttings is mediocre to bad lol. My Obliqua node is sitting sad, doing nadda. I’d be crushed if it wasn’t for a Ecuagenera pop up in my town in January. I’m getting 2 for a steal! AND I understand, it’s never the same when you lose the tip….. Congratulations on that mint. Pretty cool.
I have a monstera just like this, growing horizontally and recently chopped I hope I get this result because it’s dormant right now as it recovers. I think I need to add more soil to the base of the horizontal stork so it propagates
Very interesting...makes me wonder if gravity plays a part in transporting auxins or growth hormones since the plant picked the uppermost node as the dominant pup? For instance, would your first plant re-prioritize the growth dominance if you rotated the plant in such a way that the smaller growth node is at a higher position than the node of the largest pup? Thanks for your thoughtful insights! Glad to have discovered your channel.
Yeah, interesting to test. I guess you'd need a vine that you just bend over and then remove the apical bud and see where it activates growth first. Further along the vine or at the highest point.
I know this is off-topic for this video, but I've noticed throughout all of your videos that you use a lot of types of substrates. What do you think is the best overall for your tropical plants? I recently moved from a more tropical location to a very dry climate with pronounced seasons, and I'm finding that even indoors, what worked before doesn't necessarily work now for my plants, or at least not as well. They don't seem to like leca. I've got them in a mix of perlite, orchid bark, and moss now with a light fertilizer. Part of me is considering going back to soil, but I worry about root rot, especially with some of my more rare stuff. Maybe I'm over thinking it, but it's hard to tell with the slow growers if they're getting what they need
Hey Ashley, I think you and your water regime is probably the most important thing here and not the substrate. The substrate that holds in moisture sufficient enough to not cause your plants to get root rot or to dry out (and get root rot) is the best one. So if you're a heavy and frequent waterer, maybe a much chunkier mix or passive hydro is best. If you're an underwaterer then perhaps a denser mix that holds onto moisture longer is better. Then there's root size. The more mature Monsteras with hugely chunky roots I've found can handle chunkier mix and drying out between waterings way more than younger plants or plants with smaller thinner roots. I'd say just try a bunch of things and see what works best for you, your environment, and the type of plants you have.
@Pete vs Plants I appreciate the input! I do tend to want to water more frequently, so I'll try a super chunky mix. My albo cutting gets root rot it seems no matter what I do, but I'll give him a go in a chunkier mix and hope he starts improving. I tried regular soil, then leca, then a moss/bark/perlite mix and he would start growing a healthy root system, then get rot. For the most part, everything else was thriving before the move/climate change. I was also recently gifted a ton of uprooted cuttings from various tropical plants, a lot of them have struggled. Chucked about half in a prop box with moss and hoping for the best. I definitely appreciate you reaching out and giving some advice, and as always, I love the videos!
Yeah, not sure how that'd work. Maybe via fertiliser or as a paste? You can continue the growth of every bud as long as they're of similar size (I think 2 growth points of the same size will just continue and there'll be a lesser chance that one will just take over) or you cut between each node and allow it to be its own division of the plant.
Hi Pete! Question...if you prop a top cutting from a monstera, will the cutting itself revert back to juvenile form ? I know the main plant will, but Im curious about the actual cutting. I would love to know how people get a pot full of nothing but big leaves with tons of fenestrations Mine seems to get very leggy but I dont want to chop it and get a bunch of juvenile leaves again. Any advise?
I think it's going to depend on the growth potential the plant has once cut. So, if it has a huge root system because you've air layered it and you plant it up straight after cutting, I think you'll have pretty much normal sized growth continue. If however, you cut it and it has no roots, it's only a leaf or two, etc. I'd think it's going to be push back quite a bit development wise as it won't be able to push out decent growth due to less resources available for it. Make sense?
2 summers ago, after a month of being back outside after winter, my 3/4 year old monstera deliciosa activated all of its nodes at the soil. About a dozen new shoots started to form, but only a few actually developed into runner leaves. The other spots either died off, or simply went dormant. Very strange.
This makes me sad lol. We just got our first freeze. We went out of town and somehow our backdoor blew open and froze my monstera and half of my succulents 😭
Pete! I have a question for you. I purchased a Monstera Thai plantlet one month ago... It got root rot, so I've chopped off what I could see. The root rot is spreading 😬 will the node continue to grow if I cut off the only leaf that it has? I appreciate any help. I'm desperate. Thanks in advance!
Hey mate, I wouldn't chop any leaves off unless you can see them deteriorating. I'd probably just remove the rot and put it in water to regenerate. I've had a thai cutting lose all of its roots twice only to regrow them and survive via water propagation. So, don't give up.
Hey, Megan. Yeah, it's from removing the apical bud and thus getting rid of apical dominance in the plant so that it activates axiliary buds further down the stem. It may work in any aroid that has this type of growth pattern, but I haven't specifically tried it in anything outside of Monstera.
This is hard to say without knowing the size and maturity of the plant. If it's already a very large established plant with a very thick stem (stem thickness usually correlated to leaf size/maturity re: fenestrations), then they're likely to come out slightly behind the maturity of the leaf coming out of the same node. If the plant is relatively small still and only just started to fenestrate, the leaves will most likely start out small with no holes or fenestrations.
Depends how much node you giving it post cut, more node space means more nutrients and longevity therefore push out equal or slightly less mature leave than the last
Hey mate! Thanks for watching. You'll see me propagate these plants here: The platinum mint - th-cam.com/video/SxSBqt6z-GM/w-d-xo.html The thai constellation - th-cam.com/video/6x0buYQnark/w-d-xo.html
I have a similar deliciosa that had no fenestrated leaves left on it because it was a complete chop because of cold damage, but the first growth is fenestrated too! Two other growth points on the way too. Super excited to see it unfurl.
Oh nice work! :D
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My Thai is doing the same, going to get busy with her today, 🤞 all goes well, am really enjoying a video a day for December .
Hehe good luck :D And thanks, Tracy! Loads more to come.
This is the same as chopping up any other plant into single node cuttings so of course all nodes will activate their growth point. The only thing different about this is that if you grow thai horizontally / crawling which is its preferred way, you already have or should have those nodes rooted which makes it a nore successful way of propagating. But this is no different than taking single node cuttings on any other plant 😊
Yep, bingo!
It's actually not the dominant sprout sucking up the auxin, but the dominant sprout secreting auxin which is trickling downwards and suppressing growth in the other sprouts.
Just discovered you. Finally an Aussie plant guy I can relate to. You make me feel as if I may actually not suck at propagating forebears🤣🤣
Don’t get greedy! You already at 5x. My percentage on 1 node cuttings is mediocre to bad lol. My Obliqua node is sitting sad, doing nadda. I’d be crushed if it wasn’t for a Ecuagenera pop up in my town in January. I’m getting 2 for a steal!
AND I understand, it’s never the same when you lose the tip…..
Congratulations on that mint. Pretty cool.
Hehe nice work, mate. Hope they come nice and healthy and grow fast for ya!
I have a monstera just like this, growing horizontally and recently chopped I hope I get this result because it’s dormant right now as it recovers. I think I need to add more soil to the base of the horizontal stork so it propagates
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Thanks for this one Pete my bog standard deliciosa has done this to me, it's great and I'm glad to hear it's repeatable!
Hehe yeah, definitely is. Just top it and bend the stem sideways haha
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How long does it take for nodes to appear because my monstera seems so have no nodes but 5 full grown leaves
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It looks so much better than the other one lmao
So true 😂
Very interesting...makes me wonder if gravity plays a part in transporting auxins or growth hormones since the plant picked the uppermost node as the dominant pup? For instance, would your first plant re-prioritize the growth dominance if you rotated the plant in such a way that the smaller growth node is at a higher position than the node of the largest pup? Thanks for your thoughtful insights! Glad to have discovered your channel.
Yeah, interesting to test. I guess you'd need a vine that you just bend over and then remove the apical bud and see where it activates growth first. Further along the vine or at the highest point.
yes absolutely, the plant send an hormone "saying" to the lower node to go dormant.
I know this is off-topic for this video, but I've noticed throughout all of your videos that you use a lot of types of substrates. What do you think is the best overall for your tropical plants? I recently moved from a more tropical location to a very dry climate with pronounced seasons, and I'm finding that even indoors, what worked before doesn't necessarily work now for my plants, or at least not as well. They don't seem to like leca. I've got them in a mix of perlite, orchid bark, and moss now with a light fertilizer. Part of me is considering going back to soil, but I worry about root rot, especially with some of my more rare stuff. Maybe I'm over thinking it, but it's hard to tell with the slow growers if they're getting what they need
Hey Ashley, I think you and your water regime is probably the most important thing here and not the substrate. The substrate that holds in moisture sufficient enough to not cause your plants to get root rot or to dry out (and get root rot) is the best one. So if you're a heavy and frequent waterer, maybe a much chunkier mix or passive hydro is best. If you're an underwaterer then perhaps a denser mix that holds onto moisture longer is better.
Then there's root size. The more mature Monsteras with hugely chunky roots I've found can handle chunkier mix and drying out between waterings way more than younger plants or plants with smaller thinner roots. I'd say just try a bunch of things and see what works best for you, your environment, and the type of plants you have.
@Pete vs Plants I appreciate the input! I do tend to want to water more frequently, so I'll try a super chunky mix.
My albo cutting gets root rot it seems no matter what I do, but I'll give him a go in a chunkier mix and hope he starts improving. I tried regular soil, then leca, then a moss/bark/perlite mix and he would start growing a healthy root system, then get rot. For the most part, everything else was thriving before the move/climate change. I was also recently gifted a ton of uprooted cuttings from various tropical plants, a lot of them have struggled. Chucked about half in a prop box with moss and hoping for the best. I definitely appreciate you reaching out and giving some advice, and as always, I love the videos!
@@ashleyferrone7381 moss is good for rooting but causes root rot as part of a mix for a rooted plant. (In my experience)
I think, if it's outdoors in the tropics, all will have plenty of energy from the sun and branch out, all activate.
Yeah, no doubt they grow like crazy there
Would be interesting to apply auxins to the plant and see if you can maintain the bud activation
I was thinking the same thing, infact I'm going to give it a try with my Thai wish me luck.
Yeah, not sure how that'd work. Maybe via fertiliser or as a paste? You can continue the growth of every bud as long as they're of similar size (I think 2 growth points of the same size will just continue and there'll be a lesser chance that one will just take over) or you cut between each node and allow it to be its own division of the plant.
@@petevsplants7516 it’s usually just a foliar application of the hormones from memory
Hi Pete! Question...if you prop a top cutting from a monstera, will the cutting itself revert back to juvenile form ? I know the main plant will, but Im curious about the actual cutting. I would love to know how people get a pot full of nothing but big leaves with tons of fenestrations Mine seems to get very leggy but I dont want to chop it and get a bunch of juvenile leaves again. Any advise?
I think it's going to depend on the growth potential the plant has once cut. So, if it has a huge root system because you've air layered it and you plant it up straight after cutting, I think you'll have pretty much normal sized growth continue. If however, you cut it and it has no roots, it's only a leaf or two, etc. I'd think it's going to be push back quite a bit development wise as it won't be able to push out decent growth due to less resources available for it. Make sense?
@@petevsplants7516 okay great. Im air layering, or attempting to anyway, lol. I will keep you posted, thank you!
Yeah let me know how you go, mate :D Good luck!
So if my plant has several well rooted arial roots I can just chop it to get nodes to reactivate?
2 summers ago, after a month of being back outside after winter, my 3/4 year old monstera deliciosa activated all of its nodes at the soil. About a dozen new shoots started to form, but only a few actually developed into runner leaves. The other spots either died off, or simply went dormant. Very strange.
Wow, amazing work. I assume it's growing horizontally along the ground then?
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This makes me sad lol. We just got our first freeze. We went out of town and somehow our backdoor blew open and froze my monstera and half of my succulents 😭
Oh no!!! Sorry to hear it mate
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I have been wanting to grow Monstera albo. I run out of space and lighting.
Haha yeah it totally gets like that. I'm definitely on the team of "buy it and figure that other stuff out later"
Chop chop chop chop.
I would like to know if this has helped the growth or dwarfed it somewhat?
Pete! I have a question for you. I purchased a Monstera Thai plantlet one month ago... It got root rot, so I've chopped off what I could see. The root rot is spreading 😬 will the node continue to grow if I cut off the only leaf that it has? I appreciate any help. I'm desperate. Thanks in advance!
Hey mate, I wouldn't chop any leaves off unless you can see them deteriorating. I'd probably just remove the rot and put it in water to regenerate. I've had a thai cutting lose all of its roots twice only to regrow them and survive via water propagation. So, don't give up.
@@petevsplants7516 Thank you so much! Love your channel 💚
Mine is getting yellow and brown tips on the edges of the leaves , whats wrong?
So is this cutting the top growth off and propagating essentially? Also, does the delisciosa respond in this way too?
Hey, Megan. Yeah, it's from removing the apical bud and thus getting rid of apical dominance in the plant so that it activates axiliary buds further down the stem. It may work in any aroid that has this type of growth pattern, but I haven't specifically tried it in anything outside of Monstera.
Do you put anything on the end after you cut ? Thank you
Yeah usually activated charcoal.
Good job
Thanks mate!
second question: if I chop mine, with the new leaves continue to appear mature or will this return to juvenal leaves lacking fenestrations?
This is hard to say without knowing the size and maturity of the plant. If it's already a very large established plant with a very thick stem (stem thickness usually correlated to leaf size/maturity re: fenestrations), then they're likely to come out slightly behind the maturity of the leaf coming out of the same node. If the plant is relatively small still and only just started to fenestrate, the leaves will most likely start out small with no holes or fenestrations.
Depends how much node you giving it post cut, more node space means more nutrients and longevity therefore push out equal or slightly less mature leave than the last
Every monstera I've gotten has been invested by spider mites until they die. Any info on this? I know there susceptible to mites
Might just be bad luck. Mine tend to not have it anywhere near as much as the alocasias and velvet philodendrons.
I had issues with spider mites but on Ivy. Trying neem oil one a week . Can find it online ❤️
No lie . I just cut my Albo and 7 nodes activated
Haha like a boss :D
Today is monday,are you posting today?
Hehe yep, might have just been scheduled an hour later.
What is your soil mix?
Can one come back after being in a freeze?
Keep growing them and see how you go
@@petevsplants7516 okay thank you!
Just the tip.
(that's what he said.)
I need to go and see a Ukrainian lady in Geelong about a Thai constellation!
Nice technic to grow multiple shoots but you didn’t show how to cut them!!!
Hey mate! Thanks for watching. You'll see me propagate these plants here:
The platinum mint - th-cam.com/video/SxSBqt6z-GM/w-d-xo.html
The thai constellation - th-cam.com/video/6x0buYQnark/w-d-xo.html
I wish I lived in Aussie. I want one. So sad
Keep an eye out online. I'm sure these pop up everywhere.
BOOOOOOOOOOO ON CALLING THE THAI BORNING BOOOOOOOOOOOOO, in all seriousness i see nothing special about the mint
Hehe I didn't mean because it's a thai. I meant more because of what I'd done to it re: chopping.
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Hehe don't think you've missed one yet!
I don't chop my plants because I like big beautiful plants. It's sad how money obsessed people get with plants.
It's an expensive hobby hehe need to pay for it somehow.
Bro u was good but ur becoming so plant intellectual that I can barely listen to you anymore like come on bro,
LOL just mute the videos and keep watching then mate haha
Lol. He said loads
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