The level of competence you find on YT amazes me. We have used these kinds of tracks on our harvesters and forwarders for a generation in Scandinavia -- the technology was well known even when I first started my logging career in the late 70's.
Good idea,very smart investment,and,the pond is looking good,when the grass and landscaping is done it's gonna be beautiful,your property is looking good,great video,Thankyou.
I have the same tracks I got back in 2015. I have not had to replace a tire, bearings, ect. 500+ hours and I am still using them today. If I had not had them, I would have never been able to do any work in the mud around my place. Wish I would have taking some videos over the years to show how these transform your loader into a dozer with a bucket. They also work great in the snow as well, never had any trouble with ice build up.
Hi from New Zealand Jessie. I'm old enough to be your's and Andrews grandpa, yet i love to watch what you boys are getting up to. Most men including me are very interested in machinery and what it does, this is why you both have high numbers of followers. Without a doubt, Andrew and you, Jesse, are way up there in the interest videos. In particular i admire the no profanity vids.Sometimes Jesse, i watch your vids but only click on like and don't say anything, but i'm here watching. Uncle Bob, NZ.
I always wondered about those tracks. I do alot of work in the woods and it's muddy most of the time. I might have to give those a try Thanks for the video
I had a old 825 bobcat that I put a set of these on and man the difference they made was night and day with how much it would push and the places you could go and I put well over 1000 hours on them and never had any problems with axles or tires and I had her sunk in mud up to the radiator and she was still pushing like a dozer...got a brand new set arriving tomorrow for my gehl 6620 I have now
Your buddy Andrew must just about drive you crazy with all the toys he has for his. So far, no vacuum cleaner attachment yet tho. Matt from diesel creek has his set up like that. You and him run neck and neck on fixing your own stuff up. Its a kind of funny feeling at first worrying over will it chew the tires up or just what but you have it all under control... thanks for sharing
Matt of Diesel Creek has those chains on his skid steer and he swears by them. Saves the tires and great for top gravel leveling or finishing work. you can see them in his vids.. Thanks for this vid I like it
Got the same thing off a guy who made them out near hunter mountain in upstate ny about 13 years ago, 7/16 manganese chain they used in Alaska on tires,, worked great in the mud, real rough on firm ground, stopped using them because it felt like it was really stressing out my machine, found a used set of actual grouser tracks, and there is definitely a difference, machine glides everywhere, tracks don't feel like they are binding to stay on the tires because they are alot looser, and when the ground firms up, alot smoother, paid same price too for the used set
When you put them on just connect a piece of chain between the ends across the front tire and back up by the time you get the joint between the tires it will be tight just a little trick my axle seals leaked because of the tracks so be careful
Surprised it worked out so well - nothing compares to a tracked machine for dirt work. Takeuchi or Kubota is a brand to look at - we have had excellent results with these machines and they seem bullet proof.
That's what diesel creek has the look like a bike chain but in this vid look like regular old chain 🔗 but like this skid steer rather than diesels Bobcat
Seen them around but never used them for the work I used to do. The boss wished he had them on one job we helped out on redoing the weeping tile on a house. It was a wet area and getting gravel around to the back was a real pain with the mud and a skidsteer on tires.
Those add a lot of versatility to that machine. You end up with the ability to go muddin or to use the machine on paved or delicate surfaces that require tires or rubber tracks.
I put steel OTT tracks on my new holland LS180 since my property is sandy loam and sugar sand. I really needed the flotation. I actually loosened my tracks up a notch since I was worried about sticks, rocks and debris getting inside them and causing a bind which could take out some wheel bearings. You seem to have yours extremely tight and that can definitely cause you issues with all the rocks you have. It's ok if the tires slip inside the tracks. btw, I still make a mess even with tracks
Thanks for sharing... that def is a great price. I looked into them a few years back and I remember them being at least double that. I wonder how much extra stress they put on the hydro motors and pumps... I guess its not really a concern as if you can't use the machine at all in mud vs extra wear and making money.
I have used loegering trailblazers for years. Long wearing excellent traction. Get a feel for not slipping the tires in the track it will chunk the bar tread. Careful with flat rocks they will push the bead off the wheel. I get 700 hrs for bolts about 3000 hrs total. You can drive around a rubber track machine in mud. Only high center will stop you. They are cheap used now as the market moves to track machines.
I was hoping to see you try to dig into that pile of dirt with the tracks on. I've had the heavier duty version of the Grouser bar tracks for some time and they work great. They're a little easier on your tire sidewalls and with the extra bars it helps with traction and flotation. The bar version is between 2-3 times the cost depending on your tire size and wheelbase but if you're patient you can find a good used set for about a $1,000. The heavier bar tracks are more difficult to handle and install, however if you modify a heavy ratchet strap and do it a few times, it goes pretty fast. As far as the squeaking and noise, it is irritating if you aren't wearing hearing protection but you should be anyway.
Nice setup! I could be wrong but I remember a manufacturer saying you wanted a few inches of chain sag on the top in-between the wheels not making them too tight to ware the axles. Maybe worth checking out?
These things make a huge difference. I'm a concrete mixer driver and have seen wheeled skids be stuck and the over tire tracks just plow through the mud
When I saw those I thought wow, they don't look very aggressive. There's another guy in PA. Uses something similar track over tire set up , but they looked more aggressive "Diesel Creek" is the channel Matt is like you buys n fixes
IT'S WEIRD. THERE WAS THAT RED PROGRESS BAR ALONG THE BOTTOM OF THIS VIDEO AS IF I'D WATCHED THIS BUT I DIDN'T! I'M GLAD I DID CHECK AND WATCH IT IT WAS A GOOD AND EDUCATIONAL VIDEO, THANK YOU SIR!
I hope they work out for you. Saw that type on ebay. Was not sure what happens when the stretch. Your thoughts? You can probably make whatever repairs they may need in the distant future. I finally found a pair of Grouser brand that fit my S175 10x16.5 tire. I had to buy a new link for each side to lengthen them for my machine.
thanks. we had just had a biblical flood there and it washed all the silt into the pond. it will eventually run out of silt and clear up. it has been pretty clear for a while
Looks like a big Improvement in traction. I've heard those things tear up the tires pretty bad. But if they're already junk tires and obviously that's no big deal. Do you think you could have any ill effects on the drives?
I dont think so as long as you keep the hubs greased. but yea I have junk tires so no big deal. I will get another set of brand new tires on rims to switch when I dont need these tracks
Jesse, Do you plan to upgrade the Lights on the Skid loader to LED? Would provide a good tutorial on it and content! I have a HYDRA-MAC and plan to do so myself. Halogen just doesn't cut it. LED is cheap enough.
Jesse Muller my loegering mud tracks lasted for roughly three thousand hours and we live on swamp and rock piles also I wouldn't worry about the trailer and putting the wood boards on the ramps
Good video and product demo. You should be asking the manufacturer for a discount, they can only say no. The great thing about tires is they don't destroy lawns - but the downside is they slip. You have to think this puts a lot of new pressure on the axes; I realize there is no suspension here but how easy is it to over-tighten and over-pull the axels together?
We used to have a similar setup on our Case 40XT, but with rubber pads on the tracks instead of just steel. As your buddy said, completely transforms the machine from something useless in slight mud, to something completely usable. Videos on my channel if anyone is interested.
I have seen tracks for wheeled skid steers before but these ones look so light duty hope they last you a long time and turn out to be a good investment. Just need a video on buying a cheap track skid steer and fix it up I enjoy your repair vids on making what was junk and bringing it back to life and putting it back out to work.
Nice camera work between the wheels and tracks! Maybe the traction can be improved even more by welding some sharp edges on those flat pieces? (don't know the names of those)
11:40 Nice big crane but where did you get that massive ocean going size canoe? 😀 Serious question. Generally what is the advantage of wheels over rubber or steel tracks on a skid steer? Thanks for your videos. They are much appreciated. 👍
Are those the traction tracks set from NC reason I ask is they are only 1.5 hrs from me and if they looked like they would work I'd go get a set for my cat 226
Ran steel tracks on a new holland L555 for decades. It was the only option. (Same machine, same color just different engine, as your Deere. I’ve never seen this style made with chain links. Having ran steel tracks on rubber tire new Holland’s most of my life, I’ll advise you to add a little slack to them. The wheel seals will start to leak and could bring a bearing failure run that tight. Also, foam fill those tires, and you’ll never have an issue. Good luck. Oh. And keep up on the drive chain tension also, the added load from the tire chains will make the drive chains loosen up and if you run them loose, it’ll wear the sprockets down to nothing and contaminate your hyd fluid.
You think I should foam fill the tires? I have heard they are so much more rough. I have looked for kits but really cant find anything. Did you just use regular high expansion spray foam from a can?
I would just so you don’t have to deal with flats/popping the bead all the time. The chains will add tremendous side load to the sidewall when you turn 180 or 360. You don’t just have the normal force, of the tire dragging, you now have 4 times the surface area applying pressure on the sidewall. I think you have them too tight now and will have axle/seal/bearing issues unless they stretch a lot during breakin. In this style setup with no adjustment, air pressure is how you’d adjust the chains. Typically you want about 2” of free standing sag between the two tires at thr middle point. Every skidder I’ve ever had I’ve always had them foam filled. Local ag shops do it. Or local HD tire places. Ive never seen a DIY kit and I don’t know if expanding foam is the same or not. It’ll add about 160lbs of ballast to a 10-16.5 tire. I think it smooths out the machine, ride wise as it won’t be near as bouncy on hard packed terrain. and the stability that is offered is 2x what they are without. If nothing else, it makes the machine more stable at capacity, if not increased capacity depending on where the relief valve is set. Be careful on your first hill totally covered in ice. Steel tracks aren’t as slick as you’d think, but on a smooth sheet of ice on a hill such as pavement it can be an interesting time the first time it catches you off guard. Also loading on trailers with steel ramps, steel dovetails and steel decks can be very interesting when it’s ice/snow covered. Steel tracks on ice covered mud/gravel work better Than rubbered tracked machines.
I have a set of commercial steel over tire tracks and I don't think that you want them quite that tight. Being overly tight can wipe out your bearings and will also wear out your chain links much faster. Your tires won't really slip in them if they're a little bit loose you just want them tight enough that they won't slip off. You need a little wiggle room for when you pick up a rock or stick or something because if it's that tight and you pick up something then something is probably going to bind and break. Just a thought.
I think the idea behind these tracks is that the master link is weaker than the rest of the steel so if something gets bound up, it just breaks the master link. the guy who makes these says you want them pretty tight
We have a set for our skid steer the only downside we have had was with the tires getting slick an spinning inside the track them loegering conversion tracks work real good though
500+ hours on mine, and yes they do rub the tires but i am no where near having to replace them yet. I also have a set of rubber over the tire tracks, I can not go in mud without getting stuck in those.
Those are nice to have, I wonder how they effect the wear on the tires over time, especially on the side walls, I guess the mud actually helps lubricate it lol
You’d be surprised, Ponsse forestry equipment uses tracks very similar to this but with more lugs, it doesn’t affect the tires much at all. They actually protect the tires from a lot of the major wear and slices that most tires suffer. It would probably take a couple thousand hours before any noticeable wear has occurred
@@fishsticks4981 his tracks are very different, they're all just linked together, no chain like this one... i could see his being more effective but i am sure this one is much much cheaper.
@@AaronHollander314 Watch when he is driving through the mud and see how much each rib digs in to the mud when it's between the tires, more surface area and more ribs on the ground for more traction
I think these tracks look pritty light duty, thin chain and only 10mm steel, im sure they will work for a while. But how about the stretch when it wears? The chain is quite a long link so shortening it takes a big step..? Hope you got good luck with it. Keep up the good work.
I have had the same tracks for almost 10 years, i have not needed to tighten from them stretching yet. As the loosen they seem to be easier on the machine but more rub and slip on the tire sidewall near the tread is all.
was waiting to see the machine fill the bucket with tracks like in the first part of the video
That’s very interesting, I’ve never seen that type of set up before. Very cool.
Dauminique it's a pretty common use, have others types th-cam.com/video/YnlMf_vu5Lw/w-d-xo.html
@@thiiiiiagogatti I’m sure it is. I’ve just never seen it.
Yeah they are not as common in the northwest.
My old bobcat had them style on...these ones look a tad lighter and I think would work better.
I've made a couple sets of these style before. Cost about $300 for the chain and flat bar if you can cut/bend & weld your own.
You and Andrew have great skills, Jesse.
Mad Numbchuck Skills
The level of competence you find on YT amazes me. We have used these kinds of tracks on our harvesters and forwarders for a generation in Scandinavia -- the technology was well known even when I first started my logging career in the late 70's.
Good idea,very smart investment,and,the pond is looking good,when the grass and landscaping is done it's gonna be beautiful,your property is looking good,great video,Thankyou.
Definitely changes the whole dynamic of a skid steer when you add tracks ! I ran metal tracks over tires for years they work awesome.. 💪🏼
yea, even when I get a tracked machine. it will be nice to run 2
@@jmuller86 Jesse what name brand of tracked skid steer are you looking at?
It must be a regional thing. I’ve never seen someone add tracks over tires.
@@DauminiqueTheDumpTruckDriver Yes Dominique all the loggers around here have them It turns a tire skid steer into a tank..
@@DauminiqueTheDumpTruckDriver it's common here in the southern USA
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Those seemed to work quite well. A great thing to have for all that mud! Well done.
Your videos r always good n dont drag on no matter how long they are.you do good work as well
I purchased these work great , installed on bobcat s185. Now I own dedicated track and tire machines
I have the same tracks I got back in 2015. I have not had to replace a tire, bearings, ect. 500+ hours and I am still using them today. If I had not had them, I would have never been able to do any work in the mud around my place. Wish I would have taking some videos over the years to show how these transform your loader into a dozer with a bucket. They also work great in the snow as well, never had any trouble with ice build up.
thats good to hear, thanks
Hi from New Zealand Jessie. I'm old enough to be your's and Andrews grandpa, yet i love to watch what you boys are getting up to.
Most men including me are very interested in machinery and what it does, this is why you both have high numbers of followers.
Without a doubt, Andrew and you, Jesse, are way up there in the interest videos. In particular i admire the no profanity vids.Sometimes Jesse, i watch your vids but only click on like and don't say anything, but i'm here watching. Uncle Bob, NZ.
I always wondered about those tracks. I do alot of work in the woods and it's muddy most of the time.
I might have to give those a try
Thanks for the video
Been thinking about doing some tracks like this on my bobcat. Thanks for sharing. I’ll check these out.
I have metal tracks for my 763. They are a game changer in the mud.
Thanks Jesse for another great video.
I had a old 825 bobcat that I put a set of these on and man the difference they made was night and day with how much it would push and the places you could go and I put well over 1000 hours on them and never had any problems with axles or tires and I had her sunk in mud up to the radiator and she was still pushing like a dozer...got a brand new set arriving tomorrow for my gehl 6620 I have now
Great video 👍 What a result , some worry about sidewall wear just do what the banger races do add Sidewalls ☺️
Your buddy Andrew must just about drive you crazy with all the toys he has for his. So far, no vacuum cleaner attachment yet tho. Matt from diesel creek has his set up like that. You and him run neck and neck on fixing your own stuff up. Its a kind of funny feeling at first worrying over will it chew the tires up or just what but you have it all under control... thanks for sharing
Matt of Diesel Creek has those chains on his skid steer and he swears by them. Saves the tires and great for top gravel leveling or finishing work. you can see them in his vids.. Thanks for this vid I like it
Manganese alloy also work-hardens the more you use it. We used manganese alloys for our rock crusher hammers because of wear resistance..
They get a lot more traction than the rubber tracks! Great for the slop!!
you can always weld some vertical plate on top of each run for extra traction as well.
Got the same thing off a guy who made them out near hunter mountain in upstate ny about 13 years ago, 7/16 manganese chain they used in Alaska on tires,, worked great in the mud, real rough on firm ground, stopped using them because it felt like it was really stressing out my machine, found a used set of actual grouser tracks, and there is definitely a difference, machine glides everywhere, tracks don't feel like they are binding to stay on the tires because they are alot looser, and when the ground firms up, alot smoother, paid same price too for the used set
When you put them on just connect a piece of chain between the ends across the front tire and back up by the time you get the joint between the tires it will be tight just a little trick my axle seals leaked because of the tracks so be careful
Surprised it worked out so well - nothing compares to a tracked machine for dirt work. Takeuchi or Kubota is a brand to look at - we have had excellent results with these machines and they seem bullet proof.
Definitely wakes a skidsteer up for working in mud. But can be hell on tire sidewalls.
Seems like it’d put extra wear on the wheel bearings too
Same machine I run with grouser tracks, wouldn't be without them. Tractiontracks is also in the same town as me, pretty neat.
That's what diesel creek has the look like a bike chain but in this vid look like regular old chain 🔗 but like this skid steer rather than diesels Bobcat
Seen them around but never used them for the work I used to do. The boss wished he had them on one job we helped out on redoing the weeping tile on a house. It was a wet area and getting gravel around to the back was a real pain with the mud and a skidsteer on tires.
I used old fire hose on my ramps. Works great with the tracks.
I used old keabler cookie conveyor belts on my ramps worked awesome. Kinda smelled good for awhile too!
I got metal tracks as well on my Case 1845c and I've had the machine 3 feet deep in soft muddy sand
Those add a lot of versatility to that machine. You end up with the ability to go muddin or to use the machine on paved or delicate surfaces that require tires or rubber tracks.
Great job Jesse 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
Super work! 👍👍🏆
I put steel OTT tracks on my new holland LS180 since my property is sandy loam and sugar sand. I really needed the flotation. I actually loosened my tracks up a notch since I was worried about sticks, rocks and debris getting inside them and causing a bind which could take out some wheel bearings. You seem to have yours extremely tight and that can definitely cause you issues with all the rocks you have. It's ok if the tires slip inside the tracks. btw, I still make a mess even with tracks
Cool scale on the toys at the end
Thanks for sharing... that def is a great price. I looked into them a few years back and I remember them being at least double that. I wonder how much extra stress they put on the hydro motors and pumps... I guess its not really a concern as if you can't use the machine at all in mud vs extra wear and making money.
Good idea. It works great. Just a friend Ron
Congratulations nice job
Your subscribers just keep going up and up. Seems like a month ago you were at like 40k.
It’s amazing what you can find to improve a piece of equipment on line, and that goes for everything that you can think of ??????.
I have used loegering trailblazers for years. Long wearing excellent traction. Get a feel for not slipping the tires in the track it will chunk the bar tread. Careful with flat rocks they will push the bead off the wheel. I get 700 hrs for bolts about 3000 hrs total. You can drive around a rubber track machine in mud. Only high center will stop you. They are cheap used now as the market moves to track machines.
Amazing how much of s difference those made, great video
Lover the videos!
...good one, those should do the trick..stay safe...
I was hoping to see you try to dig into that pile of dirt with the tracks on. I've had the heavier duty version of the Grouser bar tracks for some time and they work great. They're a little easier on your tire sidewalls and with the extra bars it helps with traction and flotation. The bar version is between 2-3 times the cost depending on your tire size and wheelbase but if you're patient you can find a good used set for about a $1,000. The heavier bar tracks are more difficult to handle and install, however if you modify a heavy ratchet strap and do it a few times, it goes pretty fast. As far as the squeaking and noise, it is irritating if you aren't wearing hearing protection but you should be anyway.
about time there's only a few vids on these types of tracks.
Check out the tracks on my 763 on my page they are beefy
BEST OF BOTH WORLDS LESS PARTS TO BREAK AND WEAR OUT LIKE A TRACK MACHINE
Nice setup! I could be wrong but I remember a manufacturer saying you wanted a few inches of chain sag on the top in-between the wheels not making them too tight to ware the axles. Maybe worth checking out?
These things make a huge difference. I'm a concrete mixer driver and have seen wheeled skids be stuck and the over tire tracks just plow through the mud
Great job. I was hoping to see you push into the pile again to compare apples to apples.
When I saw those I thought wow, they don't look very aggressive. There's another guy in PA. Uses something similar track over tire set up , but they looked more aggressive "Diesel Creek" is the channel Matt is like you buys n fixes
Nice good job jesse
Good upgrade takes the skid out of skidsteer!
nice addition
IT'S WEIRD. THERE WAS THAT RED PROGRESS BAR ALONG THE BOTTOM OF THIS VIDEO AS IF I'D WATCHED THIS BUT I DIDN'T! I'M GLAD I DID CHECK AND WATCH IT IT WAS A GOOD AND EDUCATIONAL VIDEO, THANK YOU SIR!
I hope they work out for you. Saw that type on ebay. Was not sure what happens when the stretch. Your thoughts? You can probably make whatever repairs they may need in the distant future. I finally found a pair of Grouser brand that fit my S175 10x16.5 tire. I had to buy a new link for each side to lengthen them for my machine.
I just put a set of chains on the rears. Night and day also.
Love this video and the tracks for the wheels makes so much sense. what are your plans for the " Mud Pit" pond? thank you for sharing.
thanks. we had just had a biblical flood there and it washed all the silt into the pond. it will eventually run out of silt and clear up. it has been pretty clear for a while
I honestly thought you did it by eye until I seen the leveller in motion lol
Keep on tracking Jess..
Good job
Tire pressure adjusts track tightness, looks like you should lower your psi a bit
I've never seen these cheaper tracks. Longevity on abrasive surfaces will be key
Looks like a big Improvement in traction. I've heard those things tear up the tires pretty bad. But if they're already junk tires and obviously that's no big deal. Do you think you could have any ill effects on the drives?
I dont think so as long as you keep the hubs greased. but yea I have junk tires so no big deal. I will get another set of brand new tires on rims to switch when I dont need these tracks
@@jmuller86 got you. Yeah that makes sense to have a spare set of good wheels/tires for it.
Great shots with the cam inside the chain!
:-D
I have 2 narrow rubber mats that I put on the trailer ramps and those work really good for traction even when it’s icy or raining.
Certainly makes all the difference for traction in the mud.
Wonder if you let the air out of the tires a bit if it would have been easier to put them on?
Weld some spikes onto the grousers for added traction.
Jesse, Do you plan to upgrade the Lights on the Skid loader to LED? Would provide a good tutorial on it and content! I have a HYDRA-MAC and plan to do so myself. Halogen just doesn't cut it. LED is cheap enough.
Will help for sure, but Loegering tracks are the best way to go. Ours will go places the dedicated track machine want.
they are nice but expensive
Jesse Muller my loegering mud tracks lasted for roughly three thousand hours and we live on swamp and rock piles
also I wouldn't worry about the trailer and putting the wood boards on the ramps
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Good video and product demo. You should be asking the manufacturer for a discount, they can only say no. The great thing about tires is they don't destroy lawns - but the downside is they slip. You have to think this puts a lot of new pressure on the axes; I realize there is no suspension here but how easy is it to over-tighten and over-pull the axels together?
That is impressive, price is fair, but I live in sunny California
We used to have a similar setup on our Case 40XT, but with rubber pads on the tracks instead of just steel. As your buddy said, completely transforms the machine from something useless in slight mud, to something completely usable. Videos on my channel if anyone is interested.
Tracks are great. But you do get stuck in new and even better ways eventually :-)
Yeah, a false confidence booster. The great thing about tires is they don't destroy lawns - downside is they slip.
@@EdwardTilley Physics is a real thing.
Weld some rebar on the top flats and you're golden
Good video...fitting segment tho seemed tedious...Butch from Florence Texas
I have seen tracks for wheeled skid steers before but these ones look so light duty hope they last you a long time and turn out to be a good investment. Just need a video on buying a cheap track skid steer and fix it up I enjoy your repair vids on making what was junk and bringing it back to life and putting it back out to work.
Even, if the chain dont last long, you can easy Diy them.
Could you add spikes on them for use on ice?
Nice camera work between the wheels and tracks!
Maybe the traction can be improved even more by welding some sharp edges on those flat pieces? (don't know the names of those)
grousers, yea I may do that.
Fyi i have the same tracks and if u do the inside of the track first next body its easier than doing the out side of thevtrack last…
11:40 Nice big crane but where did you get that massive ocean going size canoe? 😀
Serious question. Generally what is the advantage of wheels over rubber or steel tracks on a skid steer? Thanks for your videos. They are much appreciated. 👍
wheels are better for not tearing up lawns, also better in the snow and blacktop, hard surfaces
Jesse I really enjoy your videos. Sometimes the time lapse between them is frustrating
Are those the traction tracks set from NC reason I ask is they are only 1.5 hrs from me and if they looked like they would work I'd go get a set for my cat 226
Ol boy from diesel Creek Has them on his. You should check it out he’s got a pretty cool show. Thanks 😊
I found you through Andrew camareta. Love his videos to.
That should significantly improve your productivity. One day of working instead of sitting idle due to mud should pay for them. Good decision.
Ran steel tracks on a new holland L555 for decades. It was the only option. (Same machine, same color just different engine, as your Deere. I’ve never seen this style made with chain links. Having ran steel tracks on rubber tire new Holland’s most of my life, I’ll advise you to add a little slack to them. The wheel seals will start to leak and could bring a bearing failure run that tight. Also, foam fill those tires, and you’ll never have an issue. Good luck. Oh. And keep up on the drive chain tension also, the added load from the tire chains will make the drive chains loosen up and if you run them loose, it’ll wear the sprockets down to nothing and contaminate your hyd fluid.
You think I should foam fill the tires? I have heard they are so much more rough. I have looked for kits but really cant find anything. Did you just use regular high expansion spray foam from a can?
I would just so you don’t have to deal with flats/popping the bead all the time. The chains will add tremendous side load to the sidewall when you turn 180 or 360. You don’t just have the normal force, of the tire dragging, you now have 4 times the surface area applying pressure on the sidewall.
I think you have them too tight now and will have axle/seal/bearing issues unless they stretch a lot during breakin. In this style setup with no adjustment, air pressure is how you’d adjust the chains. Typically you want about 2” of free standing sag between the two tires at thr middle point. Every skidder I’ve ever had I’ve always had them foam filled. Local ag shops do it. Or local HD tire places. Ive never seen a DIY kit and I don’t know if expanding foam is the same or not. It’ll add about 160lbs of ballast to a 10-16.5 tire. I think it smooths out the machine, ride wise as it won’t be near as bouncy on hard packed terrain. and the stability that is offered is 2x what they are without. If nothing else, it makes the machine more stable at capacity, if not increased capacity depending on where the relief valve is set.
Be careful on your first hill totally covered in ice. Steel tracks aren’t as slick as you’d think, but on a smooth sheet of ice on a hill such as pavement it can be an interesting time the first time it catches you off guard. Also loading on trailers with steel ramps, steel dovetails and steel decks can be very interesting when it’s ice/snow covered. Steel tracks on ice covered mud/gravel work better Than rubbered tracked machines.
I have a set of commercial steel over tire tracks and I don't think that you want them quite that tight. Being overly tight can wipe out your bearings and will also wear out your chain links much faster. Your tires won't really slip in them if they're a little bit loose you just want them tight enough that they won't slip off. You need a little wiggle room for when you pick up a rock or stick or something because if it's that tight and you pick up something then something is probably going to bind and break. Just a thought.
I think the idea behind these tracks is that the master link is weaker than the rest of the steel so if something gets bound up, it just breaks the master link. the guy who makes these says you want them pretty tight
Yours are a little less in the way of steel pads from Diesel creeks but I bet they won't squeak as much
We have a set for our skid steer the only downside we have had was with the tires getting slick an spinning inside the track them loegering conversion tracks work real good though
Jesse put cleets on it up side down angle iron it will be unstopable .
I have used this before and it eats your tires up. Bettor off with the all rupper tracks no tire damage. Live and learn
"rupper" tracks...LOL
yea but they are like 4k . I will get a tracked machine. these arent for every day use
500+ hours on mine, and yes they do rub the tires but i am no where near having to replace them yet. I also have a set of rubber over the tire tracks, I can not go in mud without getting stuck in those.
Those are nice to have, I wonder how they effect the wear on the tires over time, especially on the side walls, I guess the mud actually helps lubricate it lol
You’d be surprised, Ponsse forestry equipment uses tracks very similar to this but with more lugs, it doesn’t affect the tires much at all. They actually protect the tires from a lot of the major wear and slices that most tires suffer. It would probably take a couple thousand hours before any noticeable wear has occurred
@@adhdieseltech236exactly you can see the video with Diesel creek with how much he swears by them
@@fishsticks4981 his tracks are very different, they're all just linked together, no chain like this one... i could see his being more effective but i am sure this one is much much cheaper.
Why not just wrap each tire individually?
@@AaronHollander314 Watch when he is driving through the mud and see how much each rib digs in to the mud when it's between the tires, more surface area and more ribs on the ground for more traction
Got yourself a mini dozer now.
What is the solution to the problem of hanging mud in the trunk of the truck?
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I was just wondering what company has them steel tracks
I think these tracks look pritty light duty, thin chain and only 10mm steel, im sure they will work for a while. But how about the stretch when it wears? The chain is quite a long link so shortening it takes a big step..? Hope you got good luck with it. Keep up the good work.
I have had the same tracks for almost 10 years, i have not needed to tighten from them stretching yet. As the loosen they seem to be easier on the machine but more rub and slip on the tire sidewall near the tread is all.
Thanks for the skid steer tip. Looks like the pond will be frozen soon and your children will have a ice skating rink...