This fight was a great example of why you must, if you want to train and fight in this style of Boxing, do those same drills that you are doing daily. Those drills are the foundation of this style of Boxing.
It looks to me more like Mike Tyson trained too much, being overtrained to death could explain what happened to him. He is 58 not 98, but he is not healthy at all. @@peekabooboxingacademy
As an absolute idol and a man who had his life saved too many times thanks to Tyson's life story and wisdom, I came with Siberia from nothing and built an an elite amateur record in SOCAL, and a student of everything I could learn about his life, I've been following and sharing his story for years. You know this BEST, my man, obviously-after my probation is done, I can’t wait to get to Catskill and train. Your video was perfect; I was saying it throughout all those training clips. Watching his right knee (the push-off knee, as you know more than all of us in this comment section) and the way he closed the distance was a key point. He had that cyst on his rear leg and wore a brace, and he could not close the distance during his recovery time after surgery. It was a heartbreaker to see, but also a lesson. The real issue started when they knew about his knee injury and his history of being misled after Jim Jacobs and the team around him. Why, then, would these bodybuilders get his upper body to 229 lbs when he was always optimal at 217-220? To add all that lean mass to his upper body while knowing about his knee injury just showed me early on that he wouldn't be able to close the distance in the same way. However, as you point out in your videos, there are levels to this. I'm just happy Mike showed us that he resorted to the very basic fundamentals to survive-keeping range and distance when he finally realized his legs were no longer the same. It’s a true testament to his adaptability. He didn’t have to overcomplicate things, and that’s something we should all learn from. As for the female commentator-while I get what you were trying to say, hahaha, it’s New York, and we have to keep it PC-but you know best. Mike was an incredible sponge, learning from Cus D'Amato, Rooney, and Teddy Atlas. His first lessons were to keep his hands up by biting them, something the commentator didn’t even catch. She was asking, “Is it a mouthpiece thing, is it an oxygen thing?” C’mon! What was she even being paid for? She clearly had no clue about Mike’s history. She missed the fact that Mike bit his gloves while in the pocket because unlike the Roy fight he wouldn't even go in a high guard if necessary, just kept trying to slip with shaky legs. Mike realized early on that he had to protect his chin after the first or second round when he got hit. And as you know, the more you get hit, the harder it is to keep your arms up, especially when you’re carrying 200+ lbs of upper body mass. From then on, Mike played it the safe way, thankfully. The key now is to get that leg taken care of-don’t just recover for three weeks, but take the proper time to heal. Maybe even switch to 10 oz gloves so a 60-year-old can at least have some leeway in endurance to hold his arms up after being tagged. And, for the sake of safety, sanction the rounds to 3 minutes to TLDR: "its not the style but the moral of the intention behind the style". Something jake doesn't have and never will. Honestly, I don’t know why they ever used 14 oz gloves-he’s not a high guard guy, never was. As you know, his style was all about arms tucked in, hands right below the cheekbones and DRILLING DRILLING DRILLING (levels as you talk about in your incredible videos) until he was a ghost who would hit you with refrigerators. Closing the distance, slipping punches, creating angles, and throwing with bad intentions. I do think Mike could still have pulled it off with 3-minute rounds. He always found a way to win in most of his fights, except for against Evander Holyfield or shall we say Evan Fields AHEM AHEM lol, of course. But I have to say this: Don’t fight again, Mike. Not for the sake of your legacy, but for us kids who come from nothing-addiction, gangs, violence. You saved us all, and we don’t want to see you go out like this. You are the greatest fighter of all time. At 5'10" and 220 lbs of pure technique and explosion, with the second shortest reach and second shortest heavyweight undisputed champion height, you defined greatness. And yes, I believe in the Norlin fight, Norlin twisted Mike's knee, not Mike himself. If Mike ever fights again, my advice would be to fully recover, get back to Catskill, and train with guys who learned from the masters of Cus D'Amato's Peek-a-Boo style-like Teddy and everyone who grew up around him and passed on that knowledge to you. They weren’t just groupies like post Jim Jacobs, Teddy, and esp Rooney, and ofc the legend Constantine D' Amato. Like Mike’s MMA coach who kept saying, “Perfect Mike, beautiful, amazing, wooooo!” Mike never liked that. EVER, hated it, even in that sparring KO clips weeks ago "DONT F W E MAN HOW DID I DO DONT BS ME MAN" for a "PERFECT MIKE OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW AAAAAAAAAAMAZING MIKE AMAZING THATS IT JAKE IS OVER DONE"...... I’ll never forget an interview with Pamela, months after Mike beat Berwick, where she mentioned that Mike would come to Pamela feeling depressed because everyone would tell him how great he was doing-but Cus would always find something wrong to fix as there has never been a boxing scientific genius like Cus nor will there probably ever be. Nothing was ever perfect for Cus, and Mike missed that and NEEDED that. That young Mike with the lack of any ego made him who he was and everyone around him and the drugs and the Don Kings of the world and etc etc.... Remembering that moment was hard for me.
I wish you addressed the couple of occassions early in the fight when Mike pulled punches he would have landed had he fully committed to them. You can look up clips of examples. Those are a few good examples that Mike wasn't trying to lay Jake Paul out early.
It was extremely hard to watch man. It was sad. Those first 2 rounds were good tho. Just imagine Mike would be able to maintain this level for the whole fight.
In the first 2 round Mike showed off that he is still Mike , he just , but after he !! Strictly business !! It doesn’t matter , he is still in our hearts !!
Mike did great the first two rounds. Then he stayed outside and ate Jake's straight punches for remaining 6. The head slipping helps him evade the first couple of punches but after he done slipping, he could not close the distance or counterpunch effectively. Also, the more he slipped, the more his stamina got drain. I think Mike is shoehorned into the Cus style. The lack of static blocking and mobility got Mike into trouble when he stop slipping and Jake still continued to throw his combos e.g: the triple left hook. Mike just chewed his gloves the entire fight. I mean come on Mike, what are you doing? This fight really hurts the perception of the Cus style. It was excruciating to see him like this.
The first round really made me hype but after the 1st round it was really hard to watch Mike just slipping and not throwing any punches. Also Congrats on 6k subs and thanks for this video. 👍
Tyson's footwork was the problem. I see it that way too. He also had a stamina problem, probably due to his years of drug and alcohol problems. But his reflexes were still there and so was his fighting heart, just like his quick hands. Tyson wanted to counter him because he realized that he couldn't cut off the ring and put him on the ropes. But Paul was too smart to just run into a Tyson counterattack. I'm also a big Tyson fan and I'm still proud of what he achieved at that age.
You know, it’s just as simple as that. Leg injury?, Maybe. Bad stamina?, maybe. Glove biting fetish?, maybe. In the end when all is said and done, he is too old for boxing, he needs to just stop.
I hear that, personally though I think that Mike did it to challenge himself because that’s his whole life philosophy. He didn’t need the money at this stage in his life, he’s a very successful business man and said that this fight does not change his life financially in any way. Either way we can all agree it was a rough night for us Tyson fans…
@@peekabooboxingacademy 100% agree, Mike is following the road that most greats can, as I believe he has had one if not the hardest life of any man in history, most great fighters can never quit until its too late. James Toney, Mayweather (he CANNOT STOP until its over like Evander vs Vitor per say), EVANDER, no this was not about money for Mike. It was about the ego again, I highly blame Joe Rogan's sparking that shit. As a recovering drug addict of 7 years now and fighting and winning in fantastic fashion I DO ALSO pray Mike was not smoking but he did look like he was chewing on shrooms before the fight. It makes you sentimental af and he even admits that he is addicted WHEN he can on certain days of his mood on podcasts and such. The roy fight with Rogan where Rogan convinced him pretty much to bring out the Ego and extending chair shit Mike said, "Right Joe sometimes we smoke a lot sometimes" Joe ofc changed subjects immediately as he's a denial addict who has been a projecting pothead drug addict for too many years to have ANY self awareness now. I mean I SOLELY blame him and Joey Diaz after I detached my retina and was sick just smoking my depression away to be influenced to start taking those 100mg moon bars that led to 3000mg daily for 3 years. For me personally falling into Marijuana addiction which led to moon bar addictions which led to opiates and years of benzos then alcohol then finally fucking amphetamines and going to jail for Assault w deadly weapon which i didnt even think was real (some karate kid shit we joked about all our lives) in Cali since there is no self defense laws. The deputies told me if i killed the fucker i wouldn't have been in the dungeons. Anyways long story again but 4 punches a 3-4 to the head and 3-4 to the spleen cost me my life. His words won "i was shelling up" homie you didnt even SEE the 2 piece being drunk sweating ur ass off in the prelims lying to hell. YOUR 300 lb fat ass body hitting the ground made your arms bruised to shit. This isnt about me though but a perspective. When they got the my Team USA book from my mom it was over. I rather have him smoke and shroom it up all day BUT it leads to thoughts like this and career and at this point life and legacy (well that would be almost impossible to break being the Greatest imo and many others and I'm barely just turned 26 but fighting since 7), it's just time Mike. Smoke and just chill again or better yet if ANYONE can be SOBER it's HIM. The 0.001% disease that no one wins, he can, but i aint talking CALI SOBER. We saw what that did in the Roy Jones fight being sentimental and now this with the injuries.
Great point on him seizing up when hit. I dont think he's able to get into the right mental space to take big hits anymore and it played as much of a role in him moving backwards as his leg.
I am with you, I don’t think it was fake, but injury or no injury, he needs to stop. He is a beloved cultural icon and he needs to fully embrace that and love his fans back by taking care of himself. And you are right, Cus was against fixed fights, being known to have runs with the mob exactly because of this.
The glove thing seemed to me to be due to a gag reflex from older people who go through heart stress and he put the gloves to mouth and sometimes bit to stop the gag reflex due to lack of oxygen.
I think there is a third factor beyond age and injury which for sure played a part, but I think mentally there was something going on that night and even leading up to it that impacted the performance. I saw a lot of Mike reacting to opportunities too late. By the time he reacted the moment had passed so he wound up doing a lot of waiting for the next opening that never came. You can see his ability to articulate words diminished as well as the fight became closer, plus the excessive glove biting. Something was going on with his mind on top of the pain of knee, neck, and back injuries, and whatever he was recovering from the ulcer.
Jake is lucky that he did not get his ear bitten by Mike. Mike was constantly biting his glove as he said after the fight it was his biting fixation lollll
From the moment Mike stepped out of that car, I had a feeling something was wrong. He didn't look loose and limber. I agree with you, Jake definitely could've knocked Mike out after round 3 but we could see he held back. Mike couldn't get in to in-fight, and smart fighting by Jake, as much as I hate giving him any sort of credit, what happened, happened. I was just beggin to see one shift uppercut hook connect! No less respect for Mike Tyson from me. Will always love and admire him.
Yeah your 💯 rigtt his movement was a big factor in his style, without it he couldnt pull of most of his combinations but props for him stepinf in the ring at his age, he is a true warrior
As a 50-something person what bothered me the most in the post-fight analysis of this fight is the fact that many people are attributing Tyson's performance MERELY or ENTIRELY to age. Age was certainly a factor, and probably the biggest factor, but that was not a healthy, well-trained 58 year-old in the ring on Friday. I would love to know exactly what was wrong with Tyson--he appeared to me to be seriously unwell and injured from before the fight began.
It was heart breaking to watch. I was hurt just seeing the struggle. I remember watching Tyson v. Douglas on HBO. Early Mike Tyson and later Mike Tyson. I was hoping to see a better version of what he was fighting Roy Jones Jr.
It wasnt Orlin Norris btw the fight you are referring to is Danny Williams where he throws some shots and rocks Williams then at some occassion he attempted a left body shot/left uppercut from that position and his knee twists and buckled and he has no leverage after that instance
I agree with your assessment one thing I would add is in between a few of the rounds he was wincing in pain like he was injured. The world will always recognize Mike as the best to ever lace up that being said it also hurt to see him in there.
I feel it’s maybe his knee or some other health issues.. they didn’t want to cancel the fight n decided to script it in last moment. I hope Mike could fix whatever he has n fight again..he definitely should not retire this way…🙏🏽❤
I was pissed after watching the fight, I very disappointed, I felt Mike took advantage of the loyalty of his fans. They didn't pay their hard earned money to be scammed. I felt Mike did this only for financial gain. He's really wasn't into this for honor, As soon as I seen him walking into the area towards the ring I knew something was up. Mike has had his fill with honor, honor doesn't pay the bills. He was tempted and gave into the temptation, with a offer that he couldn't resist. You can't really blame the man for that. We all would've given into that kind of temptation. Yet, at the same time, I have to admit I don't have the same respect for Mike as I did after seeing that performance.
He looked very decent in the training clips before the medical emergency incident. I don't think he recovered fully from whatever that medical emergency was. If he fought Paul prior to that, I think he had a great chance of winning or give a proper fight regardless.
I really can't form any conclusions about the fight without seeing it for myself. I haven't watched it yet, not sure if I will. I prefer to avoid watching my favorite fighters lose, it makes me feel like I'm losing or something.
I think Mike was unwell and some sort of pain before he stepped into the ring. He didn’t look well and he look worried. I am certain if he was properly healed the fight would have turned out very differently. I believe that even at 58 a healthy Mike Tyson could fight at a level most can only dream about.
Peekaboo is a style for big risk vs reward and excitement right? you have to be at 100% to make it work when some one else is equal or has size advantage and is using a safer defensive style?
It was so sad for me to watch and I think you are right - it wasn’t staged,it’s the combo of age ,injury and mentally I don’t think Mike is in great place 😢
It wasn’t rigged. I hate Jake Paul with a passion but unfortunately he won that fight. The debate should be between Katie and Amanda’s fight. I think Amanda Serrano won that. What about you?
You can see him duck and slip paul and on pure instinct mikes hand is already in its way to Paul's chin..... but at the last second mikes wrist curls and he pulls the punch in. He had to tell his body "whoah pull it back don't hit him". Thats why people think its a fake fight.
i think all that is right. but at the same time i think there were moments that mike held back too. i don't think he wants money or glory or bragging rights or anything. i think he simply just wanted to get in there and box again, do what he knows best even if he can't do it as well anymore. i think he just wants to have fun.
Im personally not too concerned with the match since this just doesnt represent the peakaboo style and although im disappointed im willing to just keep grinding on myself with the drills in this channel. Theres a possibility that it couldve been rigged maybe he just doesnt care about boxing like he did when he was younger but the fight shouldnt have happened in the first place since the only thing mike gained from the fight even if he wins is money. You talked about studying mike but what is your opinion of floyd patterson? Im curious about him as well. Mike may have lost but that doesnt mean we go down with him there are many more boxers who look up to you and maybe one of your students will be another great peakaboo boxer in a different way to mike. Could you make a tutorial on basic punching form soon?
Like I said I don't think it was rigged Tyson just needed the money and the pay was 20 million, I was in tears watching it because boxing practically saved my life, and to see the disrespect of not only my favorite fighter but also the disrespect of the sport is just hard to watch, but do not worry because one day my time will come and I will make sure to restore boxing to its former glory, don't forget my name Skylar Dalomba.
Yes I’ll break down the punches at some point, the Willie tutorial is a good start though. And Floyd Patterson was trained in a less evolved version of what Cus taught, but he was an excellent fighter as well and was lightning fast.
I told people he was going to lose.But I really did hope that Mike was gonna atleast do some of the stuff he did in his prime.Probably catch Jake with a good one.Nah none of that happend
He should have trained with teddy for this fight all the weight Training i think billy and raffael should have been honest about him And when he said in his Training Video are you sure to raffael he knew that someting was off and his bag work was not the same He lost Balance much and locked stiff they should worked on his jab more too
Maybe if boxers still have that drive to do their thing at older ages they should stick with their own generation.. Its just younger pugilists will almost always have the advantage as far as superior speed, footwork and reflexes..
I had the exact thoughts, i knew jake went easy on him but the Tiktok opinion is that jake is this sloppy terrible boxer with no power which just isn't true. Good analysis.
Doesn’t Matter How Badass Michael Jordan is he's became old and nobody will see him Playing in Modern NBA against Yong Lions, People become too Old for Professional Sports even legends.
There's a Reason why exist Retirement in Sports everyone start losing skills with age in a perfect reality we would be in our Prime forever but that's not the reality.
To make me feel better I’d love to think it’s scripted however I don’t. It’s obvious that his legs weren’t there and that’s the reason he lost, if his legs where there I believe he definitely would of won. If he fought jake like he fought Roy then I believe Mike would of been the victor. I too Carter have studied mike for a long time and look up to him, last night was a hard night indeed. 🥊🥊
I don't think it was rigged, Mike was 58 and it was terrible to watch since mike just stood there and took punches he kinda moved his head but its hard to expect to knockout Jake Paul at 58 but reality is mike was never the same after prison and after the Holyfield fight he was finished
too many injuries, too much wear and tear. You can't fight Holyfield and Ruddock twice and then Lewis without taking a whole load of longterm compromising damage
You could see it on his face as he walked to the ring (and even tripped) that he knew he was too hurt to fight. But what are you gonna do? Cancel? Postpone? Theres $20M in it for you if you can man up and get in the ring (even if you don’t need the money, lets see you turn down $20M because Jake Paul might beat you up lol). He got sick before the first scheduled fight, and the odds he’d get healthy before time truly caught up to him if he postponed were slim. Despite Jake’s persona, he didnt have the heart to beat up an old man who was clearly injured as well. You could tell even Jake was disappointed and decided just to win on points and go easy on him. The glove thing… i also wonder if mike was in an extreme amount of pain and was biting his glove in an attempt to distract himself. I clench my teeth a lot when boxing now because i also have oain in my knees (getting old sucks). In the end, im happy i got to see mike in the ring, and im happy he went all 8 rounds and didnt get hurt. I dont think it was rigged, i think it was a man too injured to fight vs a boy who repected him enough not to hurt him further. Id be interested in seeing what that original fight would have been like though, if mike hadnt had the medical emergency back in June.
The entire fight was just so damn hard to watch. This entire thing shouldnt have happened. The moment i saw the open workout, I already had doubts on whether tyson would perform as people expected. Something i noticed from this fight was that there were a lot of moments where jake was just open while in reaching distance of mike and he just looked like he was just comtemplating whether to go in or not the entire time.
Good job Bru !! I don’t believe that issues with the knees or legs was the main cause for this appearance !! Mike didn’t actually moved ! He didnt perform not 1/5 of what he was shown off in sparring where he knocked down his partner !! All of a sudden he got health problems on the ring ???? I believe it was a made up bout and in fact I don’t blame him at all !! One final thing is that in this bout he was trying a bit outboxing and he was not trying to get in , this kinda of alteration of his style most probably has to do with his corner man !! Alteration on his style were attempted with Buster Douglas and in fact Tyson has knocked down even Ian sparring before the bout , and this IMO was the reason of his loss ( apart that Douglas had a long count as well ). As Kevin Rooney put it back then, he had became a puncher , he punches you and you go down , you punch him and he is going down !!
To be honest I think Mike was faking. Money does things. The chewing gloves was the urge to unleash his inner beast . At the end that slap on the face was better and more humiliating than a knock out. I still love you Mike.
Another thing I kinda agree with George when he was walking out his face said it all kinda just resigned, in a way after cus passed tyson lost his way and the classic style of peek a boo! I'm as upset as you cause it kinda brought up old feelings from his old fights that whole "I don't have the animal", "I don't have this in my heart anymore" he should have never got in the ring with jp imo he tarnished a lot of his legacy and respect in a lot of people's eyes💯 but we still love him they'll only ever be 1 MIKE TYSON!
bro, sabes que paso, fijate que de cintura se mueve bien, las piernas se le comen porque esta mal del intestino, mal del higado, de los riñones, del aparato digestivo, si vos tenes mal el aparto digestivo te come las piernas, tendria que haber bajado de peso, 10kg y de ahi limpiar el organismo, si tenes mal los organos que generan energia, osea que mueven la sangre a las piernas, cuesta mucho porque las piernas son un musculo muy grande, el tema es el sistema circulatorio y de eso se encargan los organos, por eso hay que comer sano y hacer limpiezas
Could be partially scripted, maybe they weren't allowed to knock each other out contractually, Tyson could have done it for the paycheck for his family, who knows. But I agree, it was sad to watch.
It was a scam. Slow motion showed him stop his punches right before he threw them. It was an agreed outcome. It's show business. Shame on all the guys who know the business who don't confess this.
fijate que de la cintura hacia arriba es el tyson de siempre, las piernas solo es la cosa, porque los riñones estan apretando la aorta y la cava que pasan justo por detras y esas dos llevan y traen la sangre, eso tambien sucede por el estar sentado mucho tiempo en la vida, sedentarismo
Yeah it's a lot to say about this fight but what happened exactly like Tony Jeffries said, aftee this fight we will be left with the same thought "that's exactly what i thought would happen" either Jake would win or Mike would get em which the second choice I think we all wanted to believe that but a lot of things were against Mike here, but I do despise the idea of Mike having another nick on his record due to an exhibition fight specially to a youtuber 🤦🏽♂️ if one thing we can all agree on: Somebody gotta get Paul, and ill tell you this, I wish to train with you and do it myself. I want Paul.
Well said Carter I have to agree with everything you said. Yes his legs were gone. Even with the ring walk Mike tripped on his own feet walking in ? You say he had head movement yes to some degree however not Peek a Boo head movement ? Yes I agree again I noticed that Mike was standing on the outside; standing still like his legs had locked or as Andre Ward said his mind telling him what to do however his legs failing to do it. Why an earth doe's he have Billy White in his corner when known fact that Billy White doe's not know the Peek a Boo style and has been found out
Hey man, it’s a whole can of worms… Billy is his friend, but personally I think they overlooked things in training. Props to Mike for challenging himself he has the competitive spirit. But yes very hard to watch.
Hate to break it to you, he sold out. Threw away his legacy like last night’s trash and ruined the integrity of the sport for some worthless shekels. His bare 🍑 said it all and was by design… NOT an accident. Symbolism is the unspoken language that can only be understood by those who can read between the lines.
I''ve never seen Mike move backwards or stand in place that much. I'm just glad his head movement was good enough that he didnt get laid out.
I don’t get how despite his head movement he didn’t go for the rib/liver when he had a clear shot especially when everyone saw it?
@@swiftstreak98 Feels rigged to me bro.
This fight was a great example of why you must, if you want to train and fight in this style of Boxing, do those same drills that you are doing daily. Those drills are the foundation of this style of Boxing.
Yep. Mike wasn’t training the same for this fight. You have to understand the Cus style to pick up on the subtleties.
Exactly , his style has altered !!
It looks to me more like Mike Tyson trained too much, being overtrained to death could explain what happened to him. He is 58 not 98, but he is not healthy at all. @@peekabooboxingacademy
Netflix is wrong for putting Mike's cheeks on blast. Why would they be filming while his cheeks are yawning
100% 🤣
Jewish humiliation ritualistic tricks
@@SkullyMcKnight-nq1kgExactly
It looked like a humiliation ritual
As an absolute idol and a man who had his life saved too many times thanks to Tyson's life story and wisdom, I came with Siberia from nothing and built an an elite amateur record in SOCAL, and a student of everything I could learn about his life, I've been following and sharing his story for years. You know this BEST, my man, obviously-after my probation is done, I can’t wait to get to Catskill and train. Your video was perfect; I was saying it throughout all those training clips. Watching his right knee (the push-off knee, as you know more than all of us in this comment section) and the way he closed the distance was a key point. He had that cyst on his rear leg and wore a brace, and he could not close the distance during his recovery time after surgery. It was a heartbreaker to see, but also a lesson.
The real issue started when they knew about his knee injury and his history of being misled after Jim Jacobs and the team around him. Why, then, would these bodybuilders get his upper body to 229 lbs when he was always optimal at 217-220? To add all that lean mass to his upper body while knowing about his knee injury just showed me early on that he wouldn't be able to close the distance in the same way.
However, as you point out in your videos, there are levels to this. I'm just happy Mike showed us that he resorted to the very basic fundamentals to survive-keeping range and distance when he finally realized his legs were no longer the same. It’s a true testament to his adaptability. He didn’t have to overcomplicate things, and that’s something we should all learn from.
As for the female commentator-while I get what you were trying to say, hahaha, it’s New York, and we have to keep it PC-but you know best. Mike was an incredible sponge, learning from Cus D'Amato, Rooney, and Teddy Atlas. His first lessons were to keep his hands up by biting them, something the commentator didn’t even catch. She was asking, “Is it a mouthpiece thing, is it an oxygen thing?” C’mon! What was she even being paid for? She clearly had no clue about Mike’s history. She missed the fact that Mike bit his gloves while in the pocket because unlike the Roy fight he wouldn't even go in a high guard if necessary, just kept trying to slip with shaky legs. Mike realized early on that he had to protect his chin after the first or second round when he got hit. And as you know, the more you get hit, the harder it is to keep your arms up, especially when you’re carrying 200+ lbs of upper body mass.
From then on, Mike played it the safe way, thankfully. The key now is to get that leg taken care of-don’t just recover for three weeks, but take the proper time to heal. Maybe even switch to 10 oz gloves so a 60-year-old can at least have some leeway in endurance to hold his arms up after being tagged. And, for the sake of safety, sanction the rounds to 3 minutes to TLDR: "its not the style but the moral of the intention behind the style". Something jake doesn't have and never will. Honestly, I don’t know why they ever used 14 oz gloves-he’s not a high guard guy, never was. As you know, his style was all about arms tucked in, hands right below the cheekbones and DRILLING DRILLING DRILLING (levels as you talk about in your incredible videos) until he was a ghost who would hit you with refrigerators. Closing the distance, slipping punches, creating angles, and throwing with bad intentions.
I do think Mike could still have pulled it off with 3-minute rounds. He always found a way to win in most of his fights, except for against Evander Holyfield or shall we say Evan Fields AHEM AHEM lol, of course. But I have to say this: Don’t fight again, Mike. Not for the sake of your legacy, but for us kids who come from nothing-addiction, gangs, violence. You saved us all, and we don’t want to see you go out like this. You are the greatest fighter of all time. At 5'10" and 220 lbs of pure technique and explosion, with the second shortest reach and second shortest heavyweight undisputed champion height, you defined greatness.
And yes, I believe in the Norlin fight, Norlin twisted Mike's knee, not Mike himself. If Mike ever fights again, my advice would be to fully recover, get back to Catskill, and train with guys who learned from the masters of Cus D'Amato's Peek-a-Boo style-like Teddy and everyone who grew up around him and passed on that knowledge to you. They weren’t just groupies like post Jim Jacobs, Teddy, and esp Rooney, and ofc the legend Constantine D' Amato. Like Mike’s MMA coach who kept saying, “Perfect Mike, beautiful, amazing, wooooo!” Mike never liked that. EVER, hated it, even in that sparring KO clips weeks ago "DONT F W E MAN HOW DID I DO DONT BS ME MAN" for a "PERFECT MIKE OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW AAAAAAAAAAMAZING MIKE AMAZING THATS IT JAKE IS OVER DONE"...... I’ll never forget an interview with Pamela, months after Mike beat Berwick, where she mentioned that Mike would come to Pamela feeling depressed because everyone would tell him how great he was doing-but Cus would always find something wrong to fix as there has never been a boxing scientific genius like Cus nor will there probably ever be. Nothing was ever perfect for Cus, and Mike missed that and NEEDED that. That young Mike with the lack of any ego made him who he was and everyone around him and the drugs and the Don Kings of the world and etc etc.... Remembering that moment was hard for me.
Dude seriously that long it's fucking essay
I wish you addressed the couple of occassions early in the fight when Mike pulled punches he would have landed had he fully committed to them. You can look up clips of examples. Those are a few good examples that Mike wasn't trying to lay Jake Paul out early.
Dude you literally said every single thought that I had about this fight . I have nothing else to say. Thank you for the video, respect man
It was extremely hard to watch man. It was sad. Those first 2 rounds were good tho. Just imagine Mike would be able to maintain this level for the whole fight.
In the first 2 round Mike showed off that he is still Mike , he just , but after he !!
Strictly business !! It doesn’t matter , he is still in our hearts !!
He could’ve knocked him out tho if it wasn’t in the contract he could’ve won that fight
Mike did great the first two rounds.
Then he stayed outside and ate Jake's straight punches for remaining 6.
The head slipping helps him evade the first couple of punches but after he done slipping, he could not close the distance or counterpunch effectively.
Also, the more he slipped, the more his stamina got drain.
I think Mike is shoehorned into the Cus style. The lack of static blocking and mobility got Mike into trouble when he stop slipping and Jake still continued to throw his combos e.g: the triple left hook.
Mike just chewed his gloves the entire fight. I mean come on Mike, what are you doing?
This fight really hurts the perception of the Cus style. It was excruciating to see him like this.
The first round really made me hype but after the 1st round it was really hard to watch Mike just slipping and not throwing any punches. Also Congrats on 6k subs and thanks for this video. 👍
I agree and thank you my friend 🙏🏼
Tyson's footwork was the problem. I see it that way too. He also had a stamina problem, probably due to his years of drug and alcohol problems. But his reflexes were still there and so was his fighting heart, just like his quick hands. Tyson wanted to counter him because he realized that he couldn't cut off the ring and put him on the ropes. But Paul was too smart to just run into a Tyson counterattack. I'm also a big Tyson fan and I'm still proud of what he achieved at that age.
I don't think you're wrong
When Mike fought orlin, it was orlin who had a knee injury. Not Mike, but it was obvious that he had a knee problem when he fought Jake.
It was hard for me to watch too. I almost wanted to cry cause he’s my all time favorite boxer and why I love the peekaboo style
I think the problem is that Tyson is 58 years old , he is a legend, he has nothing more to prove
You know, it’s just as simple as that. Leg injury?, Maybe. Bad stamina?, maybe. Glove biting fetish?, maybe. In the end when all is said and done, he is too old for boxing, he needs to just stop.
Mike did it for the 20 million for himself and his family any of us would have got in that ring for that
I hear that, personally though I think that Mike did it to challenge himself because that’s his whole life philosophy. He didn’t need the money at this stage in his life, he’s a very successful business man and said that this fight does not change his life financially in any way.
Either way we can all agree it was a rough night for us Tyson fans…
@@peekabooboxingacademy 100% agree, Mike is following the road that most greats can, as I believe he has had one if not the hardest life of any man in history, most great fighters can never quit until its too late. James Toney, Mayweather (he CANNOT STOP until its over like Evander vs Vitor per say), EVANDER, no this was not about money for Mike. It was about the ego again, I highly blame Joe Rogan's sparking that shit. As a recovering drug addict of 7 years now and fighting and winning in fantastic fashion I DO ALSO pray Mike was not smoking but he did look like he was chewing on shrooms before the fight. It makes you sentimental af and he even admits that he is addicted WHEN he can on certain days of his mood on podcasts and such. The roy fight with Rogan where Rogan convinced him pretty much to bring out the Ego and extending chair shit Mike said, "Right Joe sometimes we smoke a lot sometimes" Joe ofc changed subjects immediately as he's a denial addict who has been a projecting pothead drug addict for too many years to have ANY self awareness now. I mean I SOLELY blame him and Joey Diaz after I detached my retina and was sick just smoking my depression away to be influenced to start taking those 100mg moon bars that led to 3000mg daily for 3 years. For me personally falling into Marijuana addiction which led to moon bar addictions which led to opiates and years of benzos then alcohol then finally fucking amphetamines and going to jail for Assault w deadly weapon which i didnt even think was real (some karate kid shit we joked about all our lives) in Cali since there is no self defense laws. The deputies told me if i killed the fucker i wouldn't have been in the dungeons. Anyways long story again but 4 punches a 3-4 to the head and 3-4 to the spleen cost me my life. His words won "i was shelling up" homie you didnt even SEE the 2 piece being drunk sweating ur ass off in the prelims lying to hell. YOUR 300 lb fat ass body hitting the ground made your arms bruised to shit. This isnt about me though but a perspective. When they got the my Team USA book from my mom it was over. I rather have him smoke and shroom it up all day BUT it leads to thoughts like this and career and at this point life and legacy (well that would be almost impossible to break being the Greatest imo and many others and I'm barely just turned 26 but fighting since 7), it's just time Mike. Smoke and just chill again or better yet if ANYONE can be SOBER it's HIM. The 0.001% disease that no one wins, he can, but i aint talking CALI SOBER. We saw what that did in the Roy Jones fight being sentimental and now this with the injuries.
Mike Tyson should train in Catskills
Imagine Teddy training him in Catskills
@@nething94 Carter has said previously he is the only trainer at Catskills gym training the Peek a Boo style
@@nething94I wish...but I don't think Mike and Teddy care to be around each other even after all this time..
Great take!
Great point on him seizing up when hit. I dont think he's able to get into the right mental space to take big hits anymore and it played as much of a role in him moving backwards as his leg.
I agree but I also think the seizing up was due to age, more so than a mental thing.
Tyson hurt his knee in the second round of the Danny Williams fight
Fight should not have taken place. Life gets us all, even the greatest of Champions..
I am with you, I don’t think it was fake, but injury or no injury, he needs to stop. He is a beloved cultural icon and he needs to fully embrace that and love his fans back by taking care of himself. And you are right, Cus was against fixed fights, being known to have runs with the mob exactly because of this.
brownsville to catskill must have been a trip
He stumbled at the start of the ring walk. That made me think he was going to have a really hard time.
Well said Carter, nice job!
I agree with your thoughts on it. I feel the same.
The glove thing seemed to me to be due to a gag reflex from older people who go through heart stress and he put the gloves to mouth and sometimes bit to stop the gag reflex due to lack of oxygen.
Can we get reaction video from coach george also?
Was sad my friend. Because we saw a man fighting against himself. He must stop.
Well said.. but Mike definitely agreed to not knock out RJJ so why wouldnt he not for JP. Idk but it was tough to watch Mike like that.
It felt sad to see the fight and seeing Mike like that is like Ali vs Holmes
I think there is a third factor beyond age and injury which for sure played a part, but I think mentally there was something going on that night and even leading up to it that impacted the performance. I saw a lot of Mike reacting to opportunities too late. By the time he reacted the moment had passed so he wound up doing a lot of waiting for the next opening that never came. You can see his ability to articulate words diminished as well as the fight became closer, plus the excessive glove biting. Something was going on with his mind on top of the pain of knee, neck, and back injuries, and whatever he was recovering from the ulcer.
Jake is lucky that he did not get his ear bitten by Mike. Mike was constantly biting his glove as he said after the fight it was his biting fixation lollll
From the moment Mike stepped out of that car, I had a feeling something was wrong. He didn't look loose and limber. I agree with you, Jake definitely could've knocked Mike out after round 3 but we could see he held back. Mike couldn't get in to in-fight, and smart fighting by Jake, as much as I hate giving him any sort of credit, what happened, happened. I was just beggin to see one shift uppercut hook connect! No less respect for Mike Tyson from me. Will always love and admire him.
Carter, I agree with your opinion.
Yeah your 💯 rigtt his movement was a big factor in his style, without it he couldnt pull of most of his combinations but props for him stepinf in the ring at his age, he is a true warrior
As a 50-something person what bothered me the most in the post-fight analysis of this fight is the fact that many people are attributing Tyson's performance MERELY or ENTIRELY to age. Age was certainly a factor, and probably the biggest factor, but that was not a healthy, well-trained 58 year-old in the ring on Friday. I would love to know exactly what was wrong with Tyson--he appeared to me to be seriously unwell and injured from before the fight began.
I like how Mike squared his body up to Jake Paul instead of blading out. Pretty typical of professionals. Even hurt old ones, right?
The documentary had him looking way more mobile than he is now
It was heart breaking to watch. I was hurt just seeing the struggle. I remember watching Tyson v. Douglas on HBO. Early Mike Tyson and later Mike Tyson. I was hoping to see a better version of what he was fighting Roy Jones Jr.
It was sad because it was not even remotely competitive. The Tyson of four, or even two, years ago makes this interesting. Ah well. It is what it is.
It wasnt Orlin Norris btw the fight you are referring to is Danny Williams where he throws some shots and rocks Williams then at some occassion he attempted a left body shot/left uppercut from that position and his knee twists and buckled and he has no leverage after that instance
@@DaDominicanDawg Yep, you got it.
0:14 "clearly... a giant amount of bull for the easy buck"
Mike’s were not bent , he was well protected good head movement. But he wasn’t throwing shots looked like a beginner 😕
I agree with your assessment one thing I would add is in between a few of the rounds he was wincing in pain like he was injured. The world will always recognize Mike as the best to ever lace up that being said it also hurt to see him in there.
I feel it’s maybe his knee or some other health issues.. they didn’t want to cancel the fight n decided to script it in last moment. I hope Mike could fix whatever he has n fight again..he definitely should not retire this way…🙏🏽❤
I was pissed after watching the fight, I very disappointed, I felt Mike took advantage of the loyalty of his fans. They didn't pay their hard earned money to be scammed. I felt Mike did this only for financial gain. He's really wasn't into this for honor, As soon as I seen him walking into the area towards the ring I knew something was up. Mike has had his fill with honor, honor doesn't pay the bills. He was tempted and gave into the temptation, with a offer that he couldn't resist. You can't really blame the man for that. We all would've given into that kind of temptation. Yet, at the same time, I have to admit I don't have the same respect for Mike as I did after seeing that performance.
Between father time and Mike having a bum knee it is what it is
He looked very decent in the training clips before the medical emergency incident. I don't think he recovered fully from whatever that medical emergency was. If he fought Paul prior to that, I think he had a great chance of winning or give a proper fight regardless.
I really can't form any conclusions about the fight without seeing it for myself. I haven't watched it yet, not sure if I will. I prefer to avoid watching my favorite fighters lose, it makes me feel like I'm losing or something.
I think Mike was unwell and some sort of pain before he stepped into the ring. He didn’t look well and he look worried. I am certain if he was properly healed the fight would have turned out very differently. I believe that even at 58 a healthy Mike Tyson could fight at a level most can only dream about.
Peekaboo is a style for big risk vs reward and excitement right? you have to be at 100% to make it work when some one else is equal or has size advantage and is using a safer defensive style?
It was so sad for me to watch and I think you are right - it wasn’t staged,it’s the combo of age ,injury and mentally I don’t think Mike is in great place 😢
Mike hurt his leg in the Danny Williams fight.
It wasn’t rigged. I hate Jake Paul with a passion but unfortunately he won that fight. The debate should be between Katie and Amanda’s fight. I think Amanda Serrano won that. What about you?
@@adamschannel8685 Amanda Serrano won 100%.
You can see him duck and slip paul and on pure instinct mikes hand is already in its way to Paul's chin..... but at the last second mikes wrist curls and he pulls the punch in. He had to tell his body "whoah pull it back don't hit him". Thats why people think its a fake fight.
i think all that is right. but at the same time i think there were moments that mike held back too. i don't think he wants money or glory or bragging rights or anything. i think he simply just wanted to get in there and box again, do what he knows best even if he can't do it as well anymore. i think he just wants to have fun.
Im personally not too concerned with the match since this just doesnt represent the peakaboo style and although im disappointed im willing to just keep grinding on myself with the drills in this channel. Theres a possibility that it couldve been rigged maybe he just doesnt care about boxing like he did when he was younger but the fight shouldnt have happened in the first place since the only thing mike gained from the fight even if he wins is money. You talked about studying mike but what is your opinion of floyd patterson? Im curious about him as well. Mike may have lost but that doesnt mean we go down with him there are many more boxers who look up to you and maybe one of your students will be another great peakaboo boxer in a different way to mike. Could you make a tutorial on basic punching form soon?
Sorry for lonh comment
Like I said I don't think it was rigged Tyson just needed the money and the pay was 20 million, I was in tears watching it because boxing practically saved my life, and to see the disrespect of not only my favorite fighter but also the disrespect of the sport is just hard to watch, but do not worry because one day my time will come and I will make sure to restore boxing to its former glory, don't forget my name Skylar Dalomba.
Yes I’ll break down the punches at some point, the Willie tutorial is a good start though. And Floyd Patterson was trained in a less evolved version of what Cus taught, but he was an excellent fighter as well and was lightning fast.
@@peekabooboxingacademyDid Former Boxing Champion Tommy Morrison also use peekaboo style of boxing?
I told people he was going to lose.But I really did hope that Mike was gonna atleast do some of the stuff he did in his prime.Probably catch Jake with a good one.Nah none of that happend
Mike Tyson smoked weed and was stoned on fight day, showed his buttocks; he didn't take this WWE boxing match serious.
I thought Mike won that fight.
He should have trained with teddy for this fight all the weight Training i think billy and raffael should have been honest about him
And when he said in his Training Video are you sure to raffael he knew that someting was off
and his bag work was not the same
He lost Balance much and locked stiff
they should worked on his jab more too
Carter has said previously he is the only trainer at Catskills gym training the Peek a Boo style
Hard to watch for multiple reasons. Mostly buffering.
Maybe if boxers still have that drive to do their thing at older ages they should stick with their own generation.. Its just younger pugilists will almost always have the advantage as far as superior speed, footwork and reflexes..
I had the exact thoughts, i knew jake went easy on him but the Tiktok opinion is that jake is this sloppy terrible boxer with no power which just isn't true. Good analysis.
Doesn’t Matter How Badass Michael Jordan is he's became old and nobody will see him Playing in Modern NBA against Yong Lions, People become too Old for Professional Sports even legends.
There's a Reason why exist Retirement in Sports everyone start losing skills with age in a perfect reality we would be in our Prime forever but that's not the reality.
Agreed bruva 💯
Mike was out of character
even JAKE was out of character. showing respect to someone is out of character for Jake.
To make me feel better I’d love to think it’s scripted however I don’t. It’s obvious that his legs weren’t there and that’s the reason he lost, if his legs where there I believe he definitely would of won. If he fought jake like he fought Roy then I believe Mike would of been the victor. I too Carter have studied mike for a long time and look up to him, last night was a hard night indeed. 🥊🥊
I don't think it was rigged, Mike was 58 and it was terrible to watch since mike just stood there and took punches he kinda moved his head but its hard to expect to knockout Jake Paul at 58 but reality is mike was never the same after prison and after the Holyfield fight he was finished
Jake Paul is not a championship meterial to win he gets beat by a a average journeyman he doesn’t have the genetics
too many injuries, too much wear and tear. You can't fight Holyfield and Ruddock twice and then Lewis without taking a whole load of longterm compromising damage
Sorry but, i heard that NORRIS had the leg injury, not tyson.
You could see it on his face as he walked to the ring (and even tripped) that he knew he was too hurt to fight. But what are you gonna do? Cancel? Postpone? Theres $20M in it for you if you can man up and get in the ring (even if you don’t need the money, lets see you turn down $20M because Jake Paul might beat you up lol). He got sick before the first scheduled fight, and the odds he’d get healthy before time truly caught up to him if he postponed were slim.
Despite Jake’s persona, he didnt have the heart to beat up an old man who was clearly injured as well. You could tell even Jake was disappointed and decided just to win on points and go easy on him.
The glove thing… i also wonder if mike was in an extreme amount of pain and was biting his glove in an attempt to distract himself. I clench my teeth a lot when boxing now because i also have oain in my knees (getting old sucks).
In the end, im happy i got to see mike in the ring, and im happy he went all 8 rounds and didnt get hurt. I dont think it was rigged, i think it was a man too injured to fight vs a boy who repected him enough not to hurt him further.
Id be interested in seeing what that original fight would have been like though, if mike hadnt had the medical emergency back in June.
Mike pulled punches
The entire fight was just so damn hard to watch. This entire thing shouldnt have happened. The moment i saw the open workout, I already had doubts on whether tyson would perform as people expected. Something i noticed from this fight was that there were a lot of moments where jake was just open while in reaching distance of mike and he just looked like he was just comtemplating whether to go in or not the entire time.
I think he didn’t go in because his legs just couldn’t take him there. He was very stiff and in the mud, only moving his upper body.
Good job Bru !!
I don’t believe that issues with the knees or legs was the main cause for this appearance !!
Mike didn’t actually moved ! He didnt perform not 1/5 of what he was shown off in sparring where he knocked down his partner !! All of a sudden he got health problems on the ring ????
I believe it was a made up bout and in fact I don’t blame him at all !!
One final thing is that in this bout he was trying a bit outboxing and he was not trying to get in , this kinda of alteration of his style most probably has to do with his corner man !!
Alteration on his style were attempted with Buster Douglas and in fact Tyson has knocked down even Ian sparring before the bout , and this IMO was the reason of his loss ( apart that Douglas had a long count as well ). As Kevin Rooney put it back then, he had became a puncher , he punches you and you go down , you punch him and he is going down !!
To be honest I think Mike was faking. Money does things. The chewing gloves was the urge to unleash his inner beast . At the end that slap on the face was better and more humiliating than a knock out. I still love you Mike.
Man bro i feel tyson traded legacy and respect for money cause he has nothing left to prove it was no holmes and ali but still! what do you think?
Another thing I kinda agree with George when he was walking out his face said it all kinda just resigned, in a way after cus passed tyson lost his way and the classic style of peek a boo! I'm as upset as you cause it kinda brought up old feelings from his old fights that whole "I don't have the animal", "I don't have this in my heart anymore" he should have never got in the ring with jp imo he tarnished a lot of his legacy and respect in a lot of people's eyes💯 but we still love him they'll only ever be 1 MIKE TYSON!
I dont think it was rigged. Mike was just injured and I'm happy Jake didnt hurt him
@@shanemiddleton3506 100%
bro, sabes que paso, fijate que de cintura se mueve bien, las piernas se le comen porque esta mal del intestino, mal del higado, de los riñones, del aparato digestivo, si vos tenes mal el aparto digestivo te come las piernas, tendria que haber bajado de peso, 10kg y de ahi limpiar el organismo, si tenes mal los organos que generan energia, osea que mueven la sangre a las piernas, cuesta mucho porque las piernas son un musculo muy grande, el tema es el sistema circulatorio y de eso se encargan los organos, por eso hay que comer sano y hacer limpiezas
Could be partially scripted, maybe they weren't allowed to knock each other out contractually, Tyson could have done it for the paycheck for his family, who knows. But I agree, it was sad to watch.
It was a scam. Slow motion showed him stop his punches right before he threw them. It was an agreed outcome. It's show business. Shame on all the guys who know the business who don't confess this.
Knee injury obviously
Do my Netflix kept lagging but I still watched the whole fight and mikes cheeks what a veiw
I won’t watch if mike fights again it’s to sad for me
fijate que de la cintura hacia arriba es el tyson de siempre, las piernas solo es la cosa, porque los riñones estan apretando la aorta y la cava que pasan justo por detras y esas dos llevan y traen la sangre, eso tambien sucede por el estar sentado mucho tiempo en la vida, sedentarismo
Well said.
Yeah it's a lot to say about this fight but what happened exactly like Tony Jeffries said, aftee this fight we will be left with the same thought "that's exactly what i thought would happen" either Jake would win or Mike would get em which the second choice I think we all wanted to believe that but a lot of things were against Mike here, but I do despise the idea of Mike having another nick on his record due to an exhibition fight specially to a youtuber 🤦🏽♂️ if one thing we can all agree on: Somebody gotta get Paul, and ill tell you this, I wish to train with you and do it myself. I want Paul.
We in Russia love Mike very much and were very worried about the fight!
я с нетерпением ждал этого боя, а потом я был разочарован как никогда. это пздц
Well said Carter I have to agree with everything you said. Yes his legs were gone. Even with the ring walk Mike tripped on his own feet walking in ? You say he had head movement yes to some degree however not Peek a Boo head movement ? Yes I agree again I noticed that Mike was standing on the outside; standing still like his legs had locked or as Andre Ward said his mind telling him what to do however his legs failing to do it. Why an earth doe's he have Billy White in his corner when known fact that Billy White doe's not know the Peek a Boo style and has been found out
Hey man, it’s a whole can of worms… Billy is his friend, but personally I think they overlooked things in training. Props to Mike for challenging himself he has the competitive spirit. But yes very hard to watch.
@@peekabooboxingacademy Carter you being the only Peek a Boo trainer at the gym he should of got you !
The Real life are not Movie a 57 Years Old man have 0 chances to beat a Boxer with 28 Everyone know Boxing it's a young man sport.
you look like Josh Hutcherson and Logan Paul had a kid
Hate to break it to you, he sold out. Threw away his legacy like last night’s trash and ruined the integrity of the sport for some worthless shekels. His bare 🍑 said it all and was by design… NOT an accident. Symbolism is the unspoken language that can only be understood by those who can read between the lines.
If Jake went for the kill I think he could have gotten it, and that hurts me to say.
Agreed he was being respectful.
Fixed. You know it, I know it.
Hi
ye it was rigged they had a script but nevertheless I was sad and pissed of at the same time.
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I think you should fight Jake Paul!! Show him what the peekaboo is all about
He was probably on coke which is why his chewing was out of hand
It was fake and scripted, if he wasn't doing it for the money he would have donated his purse. Don't believe words believe ACTIONS
Shameful to cus
Cut your hair