Absolutely right. They couldn't beat the Chiefs in the playoffs, losing last-minute or in overtime? Other than the Bengals once, no team has played KC tougher than the Bills.
@@WordsMatter1982that's facts they really think these unathletic statue QBs really compete and a threat to a Melenated QB tho it's hilarious how hard they be trying 💯
@@Paradiselost2802 Mahomes is easily alot more athletic than Allen is he ain't gotta run it all the time tho cause he got that arm talent to lean on. Allen always forced to run cause his accuracy's awful
A QB carries much more responsibility -- the play calls, audibles, checking coverage, the pass rush coming -- than even the best RB. It's too obvious to ignore. Most Super Bowl champs won without a great RB, while even Adrian Peterson (Vikings) and Derrick Henry (Titans) couldn't make their teams contenders, and Saquon couldn't with the Giants -- still, some biased media guys are stretching for a way to deny Josh Allen his MVP recognition.
Josh allen became #1 in team history for total TDs. Oh! And the first (and only) QB to run, throw, and catch a TD in a game and clinched his division before alot pf people started buying Christmas gifts lmaoo DURING A SEASON WHERE THE MEDIA SAID HE WOULD REGRESS…. Josh allen is unequivocally the most valuable player for his team…first in total touchdowns in buffalo bills history is genuinely INSANE…buffalo would not and i mean would not be anything without josh allen so why are we comparing saquon
@@brianhenry7983y'all on some good stuff tho Fr there at least 7 or 8 better Melenated QBs in the league than Allen but y'all all trying to prop him up so hard like he something special tho.
@@brianhenry7983bro you call it hate😂 BUT WE SAY YOU JOSH ALLEN FANBOYS WILL SAY ANYTHING TO COPE WITH REALITY 😂 but as long as goat mahomes is in the league, JOSH ALLEN IS OVERRATED AND A NON FACTOR
You shouldn't just dismiss the importance of awards DPOY, ROTY, MVP, Cy Young...ect. 1) Because everyone want win a championship. 2) People should be rewarded for accomplishing things throughout the year or years. 3) These awards also help separate people who do win Championships.What else do they accomplish.
Let's just say the MVP award is a QB award. They are the only ones who win it -- EVERY YEAR. Makes no damn since. Even with Avg numbers -- if u have a good record u will win MVP.
But by the logic that Nick Wright is saying, why didn't Nick Wright pick Tyreek Hill to win the MVP award last year instead of Dak Prescott ? No one would argue that Tyreek Hill in a vacuum isn't a better player than Dak Prescott. Not even close & I love Dak Prescott. Plus, his numbers were more eye popping than both Dak Prescott and actually Lamar Jackson too, the eventual MVP winner. With his logic of basically saying that Saquon just has this feel and seems to be a better player eye test and stats wise, last year with Tyreek Hill I think would've fit under this exact same criteria, right ?
I completely disagree with you about the Russell Westbrook MVP. No one averaged a triple double for a whole season since Oscar Robertson. I know now in hindsight, the triple double has become slightly diminished, but still players don’t average triple doubles for a whole season. Some come close, but close don’t count. It was a major accomplishment, and he absolutely deserved to win the MVP for that. As triple doubles became more common he did not win the MVP again, even though he averaged a triple double for a year again. So yeah, I think you’re completely off on that russ season
You’re missing the point. I said averaging a triple double is not indicative of being “most valuable” or equating to winning. As shown by westbrooks resume both regular season and playoffs. Who was more valuable, Steph Curry, LeBron, MJ, Kobe, Shaq? All who didn’t average a double double or Westbrook?
Sorry but Allen leads in MPV like the last 4 years and never gets it because he does some bone head stuff so if he gets it 1 yr then good for him he deserves it. Dudes a F’n BEAST period. Allen is the Bills ! 🦬
I actually agree that the MVP becoming just a QB award is completely absurd. Allen had a way better year last year (led the league in yards and touchdowns with the least EPA lost to turnovers) and Saqoun is having a historic year. Saqoun is the choice this year (so far), but they owe Allen for the insane snub last year
If you take Saquan of the Eagles but they wouldn’t be what they are now but they would still be a good team but if you took Josh Allen of the Bills they wouldn’t even be a contender they wouldn’t even make the playoffs
You may be right about the overall importance of the MVP award. But you're completely wrong about averaging a Triple Double for an 82 game season. Doing something no one ever thought could be done can't be ignored. And should it be respected and rewarded.
Giive the awared to the eagles oline. Barkley is awesome, but nobody was talking mvp when he was behind a bad line, now hes behind the best line in the game. Josh keeps doing his thing no matter what. Trade his best receiver, no problem, he will be even better. People just dont want to realize how good josh Allen is
@@jctslicewhy do y'all keep finding ways to bring up Patrick mahomes name even in a video that has nothing to do with him bro give it a rest 11 months ago he's lucky to be in top five for MVP race and that's only because of his record he's played like a quarterback who is barely with seven wins
I think it should count that josh has been in the running every year for about 5 years and hasnt got one yet and is having a great season despite what everyone said. If he cant win it now then when can he? Why is there always something in the way of buffalo teams and its players from getting top honors? They couldnt win 1 of 4 superbowls, they had to deal with the patriots, they have to deal with the chiefs now, and then josh has to deal with lamar winning mvp every year and now were gonna hand one to a running back despite all of what i said. Its absurd. Before the season started he was being called overrated, its all mind boggling.
Last year Josh: much stronger stats, willed his team to playoffs at 11-6, no MVP; but Lamar with great efficiency and the better Team record -> Media: he wins MVP! This year Josh: great efficiency and better team record -> Media: He deserves it but no 😂 It’s insane how media moves the goalposts
This is the most racist award I have ever seen in my entire life they find every way to just not give it to Josh Allen people have been chanting stats don't matter then when it came to the MVP race of a few weeks ago people still tried simply because Lamar Jackson had a higher stats but when that s*** didn't work all of the sudden a black running back needs to win it because running backs never get MVP all of a sudden ,💀 Philadelphia made it to the super bowl without his ass and he's a great asset to the team but they'd still be winning without him
What frustrates me as an Eagles fan with Nick Wrong, is he is so sleazy...meaning disingenuous with his takes. I want to celebrate Barkley. But him endorsing him, is like some thief or crime dude saying "Yeah, he's who I would pick" I know the only reason he says it, is because He is a Mahomer. He does not want his (as in Nick's) nemesis QB beating out Mahomes. The same way he said Penne Sul should be over Goff. Barkley should be in the Top 5. And If he continues on this pace and the Eagles keep winning he should climb in those rankings. But right now it is still A QB race.
Nfl is bias with mvp.. tj watt broke single season sack record.. thats a mvp of league... nfl and media been starving for josh allen to be mvp for past 3 years
Bruh!! Here's my issue and I'm not trying to be bias or anything but last year obviously Josh Allen should have last year when it's a lot of people thought he should have but people complain stats didn't matter Lamar Jackson but his accolades are better which is the same concept people use last year all of a sudden saquon needs to win BECAUSE RUNNING BACKS NEED LOVE?? 😂😂 If Josh Allen was black he would have been won this damn award this is racist as hell you can't keep cheating this dude out of an MVP when he's clearly earned it
This dude on the ESPN show is a joke with his whole built-in excuses. The Bo Nix will fool everyone into thinking he's a good QB to explain all his good performances. I am at a point where anything that comes out of his mouth, people should believe the opposite.
Idk man. The eagles are still a good team without saquon. I think with him they are legit contenders to win it all. But without Josh. The bills win like 2 games.
The little narcissist just hates the idea that someone could humiliate his guy Mahomes - so dishonest as usual - of course Allen is the MVP because he obviously is the most valuable player for his team - without Saquon the Eagles are still a playoff team, without Josh Allen the Bills are one of the worst teams in football - period
You are wrong about Russel Westbrook that year lol noone had done it since Oscar Robertson on a team abandoned by Durant and they made playoffs no? You’re already jaded.
lol I am a basketball guy. No one said it wasn’t a great feat. I just said it’s overrated and doesn’t equate to being the mvp. Kobe do it? Shaq? Lebron? Steph? MJ? Must not matter that much. 🤷♂️
@JWLSports it actually does from a historic stand point. The fact is that it's very hard to do especially from the PG position. It's not like Russ is 6'8 . He's a 6'3 PG. So he made history. Thanks for actually responding though.
Andy Reid with Lamar Jackson would be insane lmao. With that physical freak and being able to work with Lamar Jackson in terms of improving him as a pure thrower, that might break the league 😂😂
No they were not we all knew watching those game even with the wins something was wrong with that team kinda like chiefs this year…they are winning but something is off when you actually watch
@@JWLSports I mean, they were. They made the playoffs but eventually it all fell apart. The problem I have with Barkley is this Eagles team was elite with the same core group on Offense 2 seasons ago. Their OC was terrible and was let go and the got a good OC. How much of Barkley success is the teams have to guard against Brown and Smith or Run Options when Hurts is a very mobile QB. If you take Hurts and Barkley and put them on the Bills and take Allen and James Cook and put them on the Eagles the Eagles would probably have more wins. Maybe I'm wrong but that's how I feel right now
“Bad play” you don’t watch the games and it’s obvious. Keep that energy for Lamar and mahomes’ last MVPs which were both earned with the help of elite defenses. Hating ass
Every year they make excuses for not giving JA17 the MVP or McDermott Coach of the Year.
Absolutely right. They couldn't beat the Chiefs in the playoffs, losing last-minute or in overtime? Other than the Bengals once, no team has played KC tougher than the Bills.
Agreed but McDermott is carried by Allen and finds ways to lose games josh won
Media know they better give it to a Melenated player or gone be hell to pay with accusations that's warranted that's facts 💯
Lmao he can never give anyone that threatens mahomes credit
Yall have been typing this bs for 3 years. At this point, it's just a copy/paste job for Allen/Lamar/Burrow/Hurts/Purdy folks.
@@WordsMatter1982that's facts they really think these unathletic statue QBs really compete and a threat to a Melenated QB tho it's hilarious how hard they be trying 💯
@@IntroducingMrLucciYou seriously think Mahomes is more athletic then Allen?
@@IntroducingMrLucci stop. Please. Allen is insanely athletic. More so than Mahomes, and arguably Hurts.
@@Paradiselost2802 Mahomes is easily alot more athletic than Allen is he ain't gotta run it all the time tho cause he got that arm talent to lean on. Allen always forced to run cause his accuracy's awful
A QB carries much more responsibility -- the play calls, audibles, checking coverage, the pass rush coming -- than even the best RB. It's too obvious to ignore. Most Super Bowl champs won without a great RB, while even Adrian Peterson (Vikings) and Derrick Henry (Titans) couldn't make their teams contenders, and Saquon couldn't with the Giants -- still, some biased media guys are stretching for a way to deny Josh Allen his MVP recognition.
Josh allen became #1 in team history for total TDs. Oh! And the first (and only) QB to run, throw, and catch a TD in a game and clinched his division before alot pf people started buying Christmas gifts lmaoo DURING A SEASON WHERE THE MEDIA SAID HE WOULD REGRESS…. Josh allen is unequivocally the most valuable player for his team…first in total touchdowns in buffalo bills history is genuinely INSANE…buffalo would not and i mean would not be anything without josh allen so why are we comparing saquon
Haters are gonna hate, JA17 is better than their favorite QB and they hate it
@@brianhenry7983y'all on some good stuff tho Fr there at least 7 or 8 better Melenated QBs in the league than Allen but y'all all trying to prop him up so hard like he something special tho.
@@brianhenry7983bro you call it hate😂 BUT WE SAY YOU JOSH ALLEN FANBOYS WILL SAY ANYTHING TO COPE WITH REALITY 😂 but as long as goat mahomes is in the league, JOSH ALLEN IS OVERRATED AND A NON FACTOR
@@IntroducingMrLucci
@@TomBad-o6x
You shouldn't just dismiss the importance of awards DPOY, ROTY, MVP, Cy Young...ect. 1) Because everyone want win a championship. 2) People should be rewarded for accomplishing things throughout the year or years. 3) These awards also help separate people who do win Championships.What else do they accomplish.
Let's just say the MVP award is a QB award. They are the only ones who win it -- EVERY YEAR. Makes no damn since. Even with Avg numbers -- if u have a good record u will win MVP.
But by the logic that Nick Wright is saying, why didn't Nick Wright pick Tyreek Hill to win the MVP award last year instead of Dak Prescott ? No one would argue that Tyreek Hill in a vacuum isn't a better player than Dak Prescott. Not even close & I love Dak Prescott. Plus, his numbers were more eye popping than both Dak Prescott and actually Lamar Jackson too, the eventual MVP winner. With his logic of basically saying that Saquon just has this feel and seems to be a better player eye test and stats wise, last year with Tyreek Hill I think would've fit under this exact same criteria, right ?
Ohhhh I love it! Great point!
Yes 1000%!!! Nick has been soo off on soo many takes this year he’s trying to come up with sownthing. Haha
You take Josh away from the Bills and they're not a playoff team. You take Barkley off the Eagles and they have enough to still make the playoffs
You can say that about every legit starting QB.
I completely disagree with you about the Russell Westbrook MVP. No one averaged a triple double for a whole season since Oscar Robertson. I know now in hindsight, the triple double has become slightly diminished, but still players don’t average triple doubles for a whole season. Some come close, but close don’t count. It was a major accomplishment, and he absolutely deserved to win the MVP for that. As triple doubles became more common he did not win the MVP again, even though he averaged a triple double for a year again. So yeah, I think you’re completely off on that russ season
How’d they do in the playoffs? How has Russ done to lead his team to rings?
@@JWLSports what does that have to do with the regular season award?
@@JWLSportswhat has Josh Allen done in the playoffs
You’re missing the point. I said averaging a triple double is not indicative of being “most valuable” or equating to winning. As shown by westbrooks resume both regular season and playoffs.
Who was more valuable, Steph Curry, LeBron, MJ, Kobe, Shaq? All who didn’t average a double double or Westbrook?
This is the year of the RB. Passing is down and RBs have established dominance. SB the clear leader right now
Sorry but Allen leads in MPV like the last 4 years and never gets it because he does some bone head stuff so if he gets it 1 yr then good for him he deserves it. Dudes a F’n BEAST period. Allen is the Bills ! 🦬
I actually agree that the MVP becoming just a QB award is completely absurd. Allen had a way better year last year (led the league in yards and touchdowns with the least EPA lost to turnovers) and Saqoun is having a historic year.
Saqoun is the choice this year (so far), but they owe Allen for the insane snub last year
Lol what's wrong Patty lmao
If you take Saquan of the Eagles but they wouldn’t be what they are now but they would still be a good team but if you took Josh Allen of the Bills they wouldn’t even be a contender they wouldn’t even make the playoffs
They made the SB without Saquon Barkley in 2022 😂
Based off of Allen historically getting the MVP stolen away from him, I'm betting Saquon gets it no matter what
Josh wins MVP Barkley wins OPY is the likely outcome
You may be right about the overall importance of the MVP award. But you're completely wrong about averaging a Triple Double for an 82 game season.
Doing something no one ever thought could be done can't be ignored. And should it be respected and rewarded.
5:25 mvp is a seasonal award,
Giive the awared to the eagles oline. Barkley is awesome, but nobody was talking mvp when he was behind a bad line, now hes behind the best line in the game. Josh keeps doing his thing no matter what. Trade his best receiver, no problem, he will be even better. People just dont want to realize how good josh Allen is
Julian does. I do. Travis O'Shea does. It's the Mahomes stans that don't or purposely choose not to acknowledge this 😂😂
@jctslice for sure, "some" people are reluctant to acknowledge josh, but people who are objective understand how good this guy is.
@@jctslicewhy do y'all keep finding ways to bring up Patrick mahomes name even in a video that has nothing to do with him bro give it a rest 11 months ago he's lucky to be in top five for MVP race and that's only because of his record he's played like a quarterback who is barely with seven wins
I think it should count that josh has been in the running every year for about 5 years and hasnt got one yet and is having a great season despite what everyone said. If he cant win it now then when can he? Why is there always something in the way of buffalo teams and its players from getting top honors? They couldnt win 1 of 4 superbowls, they had to deal with the patriots, they have to deal with the chiefs now, and then josh has to deal with lamar winning mvp every year and now were gonna hand one to a running back despite all of what i said. Its absurd. Before the season started he was being called overrated, its all mind boggling.
The Eagles have went to the Super Bowl , won 14 games and 11 respectfully without Saquan . So I disagree
I don't know why people keep putting Josh Allen in the MVP conversation, he hasn't been impressive all year...
Last year Josh: much stronger stats, willed his team to playoffs at 11-6, no MVP; but Lamar with great efficiency and the better Team record ->
Media: he wins MVP!
This year Josh: great efficiency and better team record ->
Media: He deserves it but no 😂
It’s insane how media moves the goalposts
Notice, you didn't put better efficiency. Lmao
@ notice, I don’t care about your reply
@@connorgroff9732 Go cry in a corner, because your gut is azz. Lol
This is the most racist award I have ever seen in my entire life they find every way to just not give it to Josh Allen people have been chanting stats don't matter then when it came to the MVP race of a few weeks ago people still tried simply because Lamar Jackson had a higher stats but when that s*** didn't work all of the sudden a black running back needs to win it because running backs never get MVP all of a sudden ,💀 Philadelphia made it to the super bowl without his ass and he's a great asset to the team but they'd still be winning without him
What frustrates me as an Eagles fan with Nick Wrong, is he is so sleazy...meaning disingenuous with his takes. I want to celebrate Barkley. But him endorsing him, is like some thief or crime dude saying "Yeah, he's who I would pick"
I know the only reason he says it, is because He is a Mahomer.
He does not want his (as in Nick's) nemesis QB beating out Mahomes.
The same way he said Penne Sul should be over Goff.
Barkley should be in the Top 5.
And If he continues on this pace and the Eagles keep winning he should climb in those rankings.
But right now it is still
A QB race.
Saquon all the way.
Nfl is bias with mvp.. tj watt broke single season sack record.. thats a mvp of league... nfl and media been starving for josh allen to be mvp for past 3 years
Bruh!! Here's my issue and I'm not trying to be bias or anything but last year obviously Josh Allen should have last year when it's a lot of people thought he should have but people complain stats didn't matter Lamar Jackson but his accolades are better which is the same concept people use last year all of a sudden saquon needs to win BECAUSE RUNNING BACKS NEED LOVE?? 😂😂 If Josh Allen was black he would have been won this damn award this is racist as hell you can't keep cheating this dude out of an MVP when he's clearly earned it
This dude on the ESPN show is a joke with his whole built-in excuses. The Bo Nix will fool everyone into thinking he's a good QB to explain all his good performances. I am at a point where anything that comes out of his mouth, people should believe the opposite.
Y'all need to figure it out and get a Melenated QB, until then media ain't gonna positively market your QB that's facts.
It doesn’t matter if Baker is valuable to the Bucs they have a shitty record
Idk man. The eagles are still a good team without saquon. I think with him they are legit contenders to win it all. But without Josh. The bills win like 2 games.
Yes. Removing a QB will cause you to lose more games. 🤦♂️
Racist award find the way not to give it to Josh Allen every year
NICK BELIEVES ANYONE BUT ALLEN DESERVES THE MVP
And you people believe josh Allen is the best quarterback in the league
The little narcissist just hates the idea that someone could humiliate his guy Mahomes - so dishonest as usual - of course Allen is the MVP because he obviously is the most valuable player for his team - without Saquon the Eagles are still a playoff team, without Josh Allen the Bills are one of the worst teams in football - period
You are wrong about Russel Westbrook that year lol noone had done it since Oscar Robertson on a team abandoned by Durant and they made playoffs no? You’re already jaded.
Josh is due for some stinker games and Lamar is more consistent over time. It's going to change over the next 5 weeks.
Eagles sucked last year lol Saquon is harder to replace this year than Allen.
You're clearly not a basketball guy. To average a triple double is a phenomenal feat ! Only 2 people in NBA history have done it.
lol I am a basketball guy. No one said it wasn’t a great feat. I just said it’s overrated and doesn’t equate to being the mvp. Kobe do it? Shaq? Lebron? Steph? MJ? Must not matter that much. 🤷♂️
@JWLSports it actually does from a historic stand point. The fact is that it's very hard to do especially from the PG position. It's not like Russ is 6'8 . He's a 6'3 PG. So he made history. Thanks for actually responding though.
If you put Lamar on the Chiefs they would not be better
Andy Reid with Lamar Jackson would be insane lmao. With that physical freak and being able to work with Lamar Jackson in terms of improving him as a pure thrower, that might break the league 😂😂
@ But they wouldn’t win as much though
@@jakieresykes3644 probably not no, but man, Lamar Jackson would have cartoonish stats lmao
I agree with nick on this
Eagles were good last year without Saquan
No they were not we all knew watching those game even with the wins something was wrong with that team kinda like chiefs this year…they are winning but something is off when you actually watch
Their offensive numbers were identical to what they are putting up this year. The big difference is the defense. @_hulse
No they weren’t.
@@JWLSports I mean, they were. They made the playoffs but eventually it all fell apart. The problem I have with Barkley is this Eagles team was elite with the same core group on Offense 2 seasons ago. Their OC was terrible and was let go and the got a good OC. How much of Barkley success is the teams have to guard against Brown and Smith or Run Options when Hurts is a very mobile QB. If you take Hurts and Barkley and put them on the Bills and take Allen and James Cook and put them on the Eagles the Eagles would probably have more wins. Maybe I'm wrong but that's how I feel right now
@@ryanshedler4861yes you are wrong and your feelings don’t matter haha
That may have bit a bit rude but, it just doesn’t make sense
I agree with Nick. I think when you have a situation where the best non QB is doing something historic. They should get the nod.
JJ Watt says MVP is a QB award
So?
Nick is absolutely right. He realistically shouldn't even be number 2. It should still only be Lamar or Saquon
@CS-wn2sz nick is a hater . If mahomes had eye popping stats . He wouldn't even be mentioning saquon. Don't fall for his trap
The bills have a top defense, stop pretending like it’s “just Allen”. He would have a WR #1 if his bad play didn’t run diggs out of town.
Bills have 11th overall defense. Eagles have the 1st.
Damn, guess he'll be off the Texans this year if bad QB play scares him away. Wonder why allen is playing so much better without him?🧐
“Bad play” you don’t watch the games and it’s obvious. Keep that energy for Lamar and mahomes’ last MVPs which were both earned with the help of elite defenses. Hating ass
dude zip it diggs wanted off the team. diggs didn't have any pro bowls or all pros before buffalo u sound stupid
@bmxney3143 exactly. Wow getting someone elected to pro bowl all 4 years as a wr#1 dang he must be a terrible qb 🤣😂😂😂😂