ED grind is probably the most damaging thing for a players motivation. i have been playing this game for ages but ed grind regularly breaks me. The thing with Henir and Rosso is obviously the limitation on weekly runs and Henir in particular is basically required to use for yourself for Get Greedy and HH. It´s a pretty good guide for people, of course veterans know all this but it can never hurt. MR is also a good option if you still need the accessories for yourself and you can farm 3k of the Marks(4k if you want denif in preparation for the Raid Acc from Berthe that replaces ventus)i have found that with a good partner you can make quite a lot of marks in a few hours. A personal little tip from me is to know how long you want to play that day. i have several days where i dont play elsword that long due to other games and on these days burning all of your stam on SDs might actually be the best option.
That happens because the little kids in asia dont want difficulty in this game, if they arranged this title like a real mmorpg should be, we will have a base increase of the ed by 50% more on each region you scale leveling up, the more the mob is difficult / moves fast or has hard patterns = ed gain / item drop. They started this by in 2014 but they reverted back to a more easy but more less fun and less gain scenarios / secret scenarios so here we are to this day with this crappy formula of the base game. I dont know if people remember that transition but in 2012 even a miniboss in merchant road it was more than a challenge back then and each run gived you 560k per run ( normal scenario not even a secret ).
I actually recommend to start doing epic quest from heart of behemoth (Sander, not the whole sander region just the heart of behemoth) since that's the start of getting 1m ED before going into lanox.
Your advice at the end of the video is definitely most important for sure. Too many people are just farming and farming and when I ask them, “are you having fun”, most of the times they reply no. That’s not good, relax before you burn yourself out. It’s a game, if you’re not having fun then you needa take a step back.
yeah... i've def seen too many new players, etc. come to the game and do like... 10 sets of rig dailies/henir weeklies, etc. and burn themselves out, take a break/quit, and never come back. elsword grind is really long so i think its really important to not burn out/pace urself uwu)b slow and steady!!!
@@zack6607 I’m actually one of those people too lmao. Although I’ve been playing the game for like 7 years now. Was pvp main but the game eventually became pve oriented so started to do pve and got so overwhelmed. I started to realize I was grinding endlessly and having no fun whatsoever (I was also solo queuing most things). I pushed it too hard and had to take a break for over half a year. Actually I just got back after seeing noah and trying not to make that same mistake. I have one problem though, I’m thinking of potentially switching my main to noah but I have nothing for him yet. Even if I send him my rigo set, it’s almost like I’m starting all over again... any tips?
I think that the most important thing that needs to be mentioned is "Farm something you can farm efficiently for your gear level", and this applies to every MMO in terms of making income. Certain classes will also perform better than others depending on the dungeon, which will affect income/hr. There's no point in farming a dungeon that gives 20m per 2 hours (10m/hr) if you can farm a weaker dungeon for 18m per 1.5 hours (12m/hr), for example. A different class might have it the other way round for the two same dungeons due to their kit and hitboxes. Pilot skill and class knowledge are also a factor for whether clear speed is good as well, along with consistent skill usage and cooldown management for key clearing skills. Keep experimenting to see what you can get away with, or watch videos of other people speedrunning to get an idea of mob and skill placement so that when you're able to oneshot, you've had all the time before to practice. Playing consistently (clear time doesn't vary much) and efficiently (using skills in a way that maximises their value, saving potions and speeding up the run) is key when trying to make the most ED/hr. If you want to really minmax, you can also take into account potion cost. People apply the concept of $/hr in real life for their jobs, and MMOs are no exception to this. For building reserves, ED in vs ED out must be calculated. If you're doing everything right, you'll be able to eventually sit on a solid 2-3b or more depending on where you like to have your reserves at. I personally have a spreadsheet for calculating my average income/hr from 13-3 and have been working on trying to find out my average income from Rosso raid as well. Because of this, I know exactly how much I make per week on average, and am still ED positive after taking into account Reforge costs. As long as you're not going negative and bleeding ED you'll be absolutely fine. Most new players won't be able to do this because there's many things to get at the beginning, but it's something to keep in mind for the future if they decide to stay on. In saying that though, everyone seems to be thirsting for progress and it can feel frustrating when it feels like you're getting nowhere. Early game is where there's the most amount of dungeon variety to keep yourself engaged as opposed to reaching endgame and running only 13-3 and 13-4. There really isn't anything meaningful to do at endgame other than grinding the same 2 dungeons over and over again, so just enjoy the early parts of the game. Play at your own pace.
You know initially I dropped off of this channel as a guide because it sounded like a kid and I assumed I would be getting garbage info but damn this is actually really helpful. Thanks for cracking open this game for newer players, and shortening the information gap
Very good guide, I've been looking for a good one that's up to date. Personally I just do weekly Rosso raid and do other dungeons if I feel up to it, maybe make a random character to get easy epic quest ED to help fund my main, I get a lot of magical crystals from crap gear along the way so it's even more ED. I feel like for me i don't get burned out as much if I just do epic quests and try out different characters for fun :) But my main is for raid and I have another main for erp leveling! Overall very good guide, very useful and I even learned a few things even though I've been playing since 2014!
One thing to note on Reminaing El's Aspiration - I agree its simply a min-maxing thing but if you're a Luciel main, it's completely worth getting because it's bugged on them. The cooldown resets every time you switch characters through commands and skills. So you can proc multiple of the passive within a few seconds. I've had times where I spawned 3 in about 5 seconds lol. As someone that farmed the dungeon and ended up getting the 15k Kill title with no passive drop...just get it from Henir Fragments instead honestly - if ED gain isn't something you're persistent on o/
People are not convinced Rosso raid is the best ED making in the game because... Rosso raid would be the best ED making if it gave reward every time you run it and if it didn't take half an hour to form, the same way if henir gave reward every time. ED making is subject to change mostly due to market board price. Now if people would stop under-cutting glaciem price (now ~3.5k instead of the juicy 5k), 13-3 (trosh's nest) would be the current most efficient ED+EXP/stam.time dng to run regardless. Good party can run 13-3 sub 2 min easily. Personally, I switch up between making new char for el collect, Altera SD, and 13-3 so I don't get bored. For new players, making more friends in Elsword will increase your ED gain because you form party faster and people carrying will reduce dng run time. So go make friends! For those that have good luck tho... gamble on ib burning = fastest way to make ED :kekw:
I frankly don't know how you have come to the conclusion that Rosso raid DOESN'T give you rewards every time you run it. Rosso raid (normal) drops stones every phase at a 100% chance and you get cubes at a 100% for every phase cleared. Yes, you only can get Rosso raid rewards once per week per character (if you don't use reset tickets), but as I mention in the Rosso raid farming guide that I mentioned in the video and linked in the description, you make raid alts to farm rosso raid. If you are referring to not having a fetch aura and not being able to pick up drops, in the Rosso raid farming video that I mentioned in the video and linked in the description, it tells you where you can pick up the drops if you don't have a fetch aura and it's generally pretty reasonable. I also frankly don't know how you have come to the conclusion that Rosso raid takes 30 minutes to form. Are you in the right raid server to find parties? Or are you looking for parties with useless classes, characters that don't do DPS and/or non fresh characters? (In addition, you can do HW or something else while you wait for a party- though like I mentioned above, it shouldn't take you so long to find a party if you are looking for one correctly.) I would greatly appreciate it if you would give me the benefit of the doubt that I know what I'm talking about and referred to the information I give before refuting my statements. I understand that because of the way glaciem is bought- whales tend to buy a lot at once/sweep the board, that you can put glaciem at a higher price and it still can be bought, however, I do think you should consider that maybe the reason prices for glaciem are dropping is because they simply are going down in value. I don't think you realize that in order to farm 13-3 efficiently, you need to get 550k cp with FARMING ERP. Getting 550k CP with a farming page is A LOT harder than hitting 332.5k CP with DAMAGE ERP. In addition, unless you are getting carried consistently- which is NOT reasonable for most players, you need FOJ + Rigomor armor generally to farm 13-3 comfortably (mainly because of the adaptation that FOJ + Rigomor armor gives). Recommending 13-3 for newer players is frankly absurd. In addition, I did mention that 13-3 IS a good way to farm ED/EXP, but not for newer players. Also, I do hope you are aware that generally burning IBs is actually not profitable. So I don't know why you are suggesting that for any player. Selling k-ching, sure, but burning IBs is generally not profitable.
@@zack6607 Not trying to argue as I am simply sharing my personal opinion and if it came out that way, my apologies. Well 30 minutes to form is exaggerated but it does take time and new player with lower cp don't always get picked (ya that person that called me dumb above is exactly what new players have to face in Elsword community). I am aware of slaves and yes I am aware it drops stone 100% when fresh and marks when not fresh (which are rewards too since pots do sell for a decent amount but not for "new players" as I am not sure you and the others have to stress so hard) In my comment, I only mention new players in terms of making friends when you are starting out... There are simply no easy way to make ED for a new player besides making more char which has no cp requirement. Heck I wouldn't carry new players in farming (who would unless you are a CS God), but to help them grow in ways they otherwise can't. For example, MC quest chain 3-5/5, clearing Agate for the first time, and charity raid. I am just not convinced that Rosso is the best way to make ED even for new players. With low erp, it takes quite a bit of ED to make a slave to meet the cp requirement. Yes I am aware of bankable Elrianodes and yes in the long run you can make a ton of ED. By the time however, 13-3 becomes the most "efficient" dng to run. I am aware of glaciem sweep but the KC prices right now is not very enticing even for whales whom themselves can farm. I never recommended 13-3 to new players nor have I recommended burning ib for the general player base and it is clearly a joke gambling on ibs... I do appreciate your guides and I commend you for your work. Of course you know what you are talking about. I respect you as a Elsword content creator and I am thankful for your feedback as I don't comment often which I would need to fine tune my wording/tone. Keep up the great work! Edit: I don't mention every little detail my bad there
@@emersont1769 new players can sell Treasure hunter stuff and barrier frags if they consistently run sds. Its not bad profit. Especially piling on blacksmith items for enhancement events when it's most profitable. Magic Crystals are also big money and easy to get.
omg thank you so much :D this guide helped alot :D im still in the D tier of the map, but im happy to know where i am in terms of dungeons. Once im ready ill do daily secret dungeons and try for the title :) i loved this vid and i loved you Raven
I think epics quests are a decent way to make ed when starting off, but making alt accounts doesn't seem productive in the way you are mentioning it. Imo when making ed you should be trying to hit as many birds with one stone as possible. Farming sds for ed can also give you el rewards and more importantly exp to raise your erp level. (This is just one example.) Having erp 300 allows for idr, ed gain and exp gain. Higher erp also makes getting alts into rosso easier, etc. Making more characters on one account helps with espc, alts for henir, rig, rosso, etc. Tldr I mean you can, but I dont think it's the best use of your time. And also, selling kching for ed has always been a thing, but right now ed is generally harder to make and with all the ed sinks, a lot of ppl are turning to selling kching and it has almost reduced the value of kching by half. (If you are referring to selling feet pictures for kching to sell for ed.)
@@zack6607 no I was just referring to completely living off of k-ching 😭 HSHSHDBXKSJKENXKSNXKWNEOFJOCJXW but yeah since I literally don't like grinding i just create alt accs and make them 99lvl with my friend in 6 hours and we divide the money which is around 65m for each of us, I'm still trying to grind erp to make my grind alt to make it 100/100/100 for exp ed and idr (currently finished idr and dismantling the shitass equipments and selling the magical crystals alone gives me alot of money and it's currently enough for me) but I agree with the fact that in the long run investing into and alt account just for grinding and money making with different ways and using the board and selling stuff that has potential and drops from fairly easy dungeons is the best long run way but I don't technically like grinding the same dungeon for 6 hours and I also wanna invest some more money on my main for a few things (I barely passed 300k cp last week ㅜㅜㅜㅜㅜㅜ) so easiest and least riskiest way to make immediate money is alt endgame for me currently 🥺
@@gentlesubliminals7182 Oh I see o: It seems you have a good collaboration going on with your friend that seems cool. I agree that it's best to do what you are more comfortable with doing for ED.
add dungeon probably is no longer worth running outside of farming the weapon :C hmmm i think the update makes elrianode more worth farming, but not enough to change it's place in the tierlist.
Found an error in your document. "SDs are almost always worth doing for the daily and weekly SD quest that gives el rewards that can be used to get the title *Guardian of Elrianode* and/or used to upkeep the 100% EXP medal from Ariel." This is funny because you used the title's actual name later on in the Elrianode section. You also might want to update the guide to match the current state of the game.
Oh we are using current board prices? Hope you don't plan to remake this video monthly. Also while henir is insane for ed the force service is gradually dropping in price. On another note during infinite stamina days the tier list changes significantly, also if you are overgeared MR hell runs are insanely good for ed. 1 mark = roughly 300k ed you drop between 2-4 each run. if you do 1 minute runs thats insane already without counting artifact drops.
Henir gives you time and space fragments as a weekly reward for clearing it. Once you accumulate enough time and space fragments (you get a maximum of 144 fragments a week if you full clear normal and challenge mode) you can exchange them with Glave to get an item that increases the rarity of Force skills. The one to go from Rare Force skill to Elite is 500 Fragments, and from Elite to Unique, it's 1500 Fragments. Since it's so long to get, a lot of players prefer to pay to get the unique skill than upgrade it themselves, so you can buy a Force skill and upgrade it, then resell it for a lot more ED.
What about making multiple alts for story quests? It should be a guaranteed 200m ed from sander-elrianode and it would take around 2-4 days to complete one from creation. Is this a good way to farm ed?
I was wondering if DVC is worthy. I mean does the -5% mag/phy attack still apply while you awakening? Or the +10% attack is based on your attack without the -5% ? I ain't kno if I am clear
-5% is only when you are not awakened dvc is one of the biggest power boosts you can get accessory wise since you should pretty much always be awakened in PVE edit: sorry, I misspoke. the -5% is still there when you are awakened, but since you gain 10%, it's a net gain of 5%
Unless you are a hardcore player, I personally find the stamina pots you get from exchanging in stewardship coins enough for me. (For info on that refer to the pve progression guide linked in the video description.) You can also get stamina from exchanging in coins from the daily pvp quest and also from furniture.
If farming rosso raid is so profitable then shouldnt we all invest ERP on ASD after having 100 on Exp gain instead of IDR? Cuz I find myself stuck at 240K cp for investing 100 on exp gain
th-cam.com/video/qCyAyq5Ohvg/w-d-xo.html refer to this video with help for hitting the cp requirement if you want to "farm" rosso raid, you need to do it on alt characters. so you would invest in ASD first and then polarize on your alt characters to help hit the cp requirement. the vid linked above talks more in depth about that. for your main you should be investing erp in exp gain first, then item drop rate, then ed gain
hmmm... at the time of making this video i was thinking that getting stam pots from stewardship coins should be enough, but i've realized that some people do farm pretty hardcore and in that case then ereda is probably the best way to farm stam pots (furniture does help as well) i guess i was also thinking that in the case players are farming lower end dungeons that cost a lot of stam (ex.sds or add) then making an alt/alts would suffice
You can't sell crafted Henir (unique) if you buy the Henir (elite) skill or transfer from another character, because the reduction in seal count transfers over after upgrading. However, rare force skills are bank shareable and tradeable without sealing. So if you buy a rare force skill or transfer from another characters, then upgrade that to unique, you can seal and sell it.
@UCO4yzMiRVnTnrgZ5GQdcKDg So you are incorrect or do not understand how Seal Counts work. A craftable Unique Head Hunter is very sellable, and I have sold quite a few myself. The only caveat is you must not trade it until it is Unique, you must keep it on one character until it is fully upgraded. A Unique Head Hunter has 1 seal count, but it will share that Seal Count with the Elite Version if you upgraded it from there. You must NOT TRADE it while it is Elite, as that will take the 1 seal count you get while it is Unique.
I mentioned this in the video but the exp data I collected for 11-3 was from each member doing 250 kills. As also mentioned in the video the amount of exp you get depends on the number of kills, so that's probably why you arent getting the same amount of exp.
Yes, but the results are hard to see because the system is still RNG based. My RNG is off the chart. I be getting 3-5 DVCs a week but that's my RNG. You just have to believe. Goodluck
@@waifumaterial9149 In sintesi,se hai equip end game o comunque ben piazzato, i dungeon più redditizi sono Henir, Raid e 13-3(il livello acquatico con le 3 zanzare geneticamente modificate per intenderci),se sei una nuova giocatrice o hai dell'equip "Mediocre", i dungeon con un buon guadagno sono Raid, Henir, Teoria di Add, Dungeon Segreti, 11-4 (laboratorio di debrian se non sbaglio) e 12-8(il livello dopo i raid). Il resto sono i soliti consigli dal fare le quest giornaliere, al fare le Epic con altri pg(Da Ranox a fine Elianod fai intorno ai 200kk). Per semplificarti la vita gli obbbbbiettivi sono: -Portare la Risonanza a livello 300(cosi da mettere i punti in Esperienza,Drop ed ED) -Equipaggiarti nel tempo con Set Rigomor + Arma Maain + Accessori + Set Sciogli + Tutte le piccolezze -Fare le missioni giornaliere/settimanali Se hai bisogno di qualcosa di piu specifico,chiarimenti o sassi vari chiedi pure!
Through the daily and weekly rigomor quests. You get 25 daily and 100 weekly. It takes 5 runs to clear the daily and 15 runs to clear the weekly. The daily counts towards the weekly. If you do the daily quest for 10 days, you will get 250 amethyst. Then you will get 100 from the first week or 7 days and 100 from the second week next 3 days. So 450 in 50 runs.
ED grind is probably the most damaging thing for a players motivation. i have been playing this game for ages but ed grind regularly breaks me. The thing with Henir and Rosso is obviously the limitation on weekly runs and Henir in particular is basically required to use for yourself for Get Greedy and HH. It´s a pretty good guide for people, of course veterans know all this but it can never hurt. MR is also a good option if you still need the accessories for yourself and you can farm 3k of the Marks(4k if you want denif in preparation for the Raid Acc from Berthe that replaces ventus)i have found that with a good partner you can make quite a lot of marks in a few hours. A personal little tip from me is to know how long you want to play that day. i have several days where i dont play elsword that long due to other games and on these days burning all of your stam on SDs might actually be the best option.
That happens because the little kids in asia dont want difficulty in this game, if they arranged this title like a real mmorpg should be, we will have a base increase of the ed by 50% more on each region you scale leveling up, the more the mob is difficult / moves fast or has hard patterns = ed gain / item drop.
They started this by in 2014 but they reverted back to a more easy but more less fun and less gain scenarios / secret scenarios so here we are to this day with this crappy formula of the base game.
I dont know if people remember that transition but in 2012 even a miniboss in merchant road it was more than a challenge back then and each run gived you 560k per run ( normal scenario not even a secret ).
I actually recommend to start doing epic quest from heart of behemoth (Sander, not the whole sander region just the heart of behemoth) since that's the start of getting 1m ED before going into lanox.
Your advice at the end of the video is definitely most important for sure. Too many people are just farming and farming and when I ask them, “are you having fun”, most of the times they reply no. That’s not good, relax before you burn yourself out. It’s a game, if you’re not having fun then you needa take a step back.
yeah... i've def seen too many new players, etc. come to the game and do like... 10 sets of rig dailies/henir weeklies, etc. and burn themselves out, take a break/quit, and never come back. elsword grind is really long so i think its really important to not burn out/pace urself uwu)b slow and steady!!!
@@zack6607 I’m actually one of those people too lmao. Although I’ve been playing the game for like 7 years now. Was pvp main but the game eventually became pve oriented so started to do pve and got so overwhelmed. I started to realize I was grinding endlessly and having no fun whatsoever (I was also solo queuing most things). I pushed it too hard and had to take a break for over half a year. Actually I just got back after seeing noah and trying not to make that same mistake.
I have one problem though, I’m thinking of potentially switching my main to noah but I have nothing for him yet. Even if I send him my rigo set, it’s almost like I’m starting all over again... any tips?
I think that the most important thing that needs to be mentioned is "Farm something you can farm efficiently for your gear level", and this applies to every MMO in terms of making income. Certain classes will also perform better than others depending on the dungeon, which will affect income/hr. There's no point in farming a dungeon that gives 20m per 2 hours (10m/hr) if you can farm a weaker dungeon for 18m per 1.5 hours (12m/hr), for example. A different class might have it the other way round for the two same dungeons due to their kit and hitboxes.
Pilot skill and class knowledge are also a factor for whether clear speed is good as well, along with consistent skill usage and cooldown management for key clearing skills. Keep experimenting to see what you can get away with, or watch videos of other people speedrunning to get an idea of mob and skill placement so that when you're able to oneshot, you've had all the time before to practice. Playing consistently (clear time doesn't vary much) and efficiently (using skills in a way that maximises their value, saving potions and speeding up the run) is key when trying to make the most ED/hr. If you want to really minmax, you can also take into account potion cost. People apply the concept of $/hr in real life for their jobs, and MMOs are no exception to this.
For building reserves, ED in vs ED out must be calculated. If you're doing everything right, you'll be able to eventually sit on a solid 2-3b or more depending on where you like to have your reserves at. I personally have a spreadsheet for calculating my average income/hr from 13-3 and have been working on trying to find out my average income from Rosso raid as well. Because of this, I know exactly how much I make per week on average, and am still ED positive after taking into account Reforge costs. As long as you're not going negative and bleeding ED you'll be absolutely fine. Most new players won't be able to do this because there's many things to get at the beginning, but it's something to keep in mind for the future if they decide to stay on.
In saying that though, everyone seems to be thirsting for progress and it can feel frustrating when it feels like you're getting nowhere. Early game is where there's the most amount of dungeon variety to keep yourself engaged as opposed to reaching endgame and running only 13-3 and 13-4. There really isn't anything meaningful to do at endgame other than grinding the same 2 dungeons over and over again, so just enjoy the early parts of the game. Play at your own pace.
can u teach me how to farm with daybreaker ?
Just sell pictures of your Raven.
@@nanakomatsu7425 you can speak?
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Lol 😆
Seeing someone making video for Els always makes me wanna cry T ^Tb
Wish my teacher was this good for explaining stuff
You know initially I dropped off of this channel as a guide because it sounded like a kid and I assumed I would be getting garbage info but damn this is actually really helpful. Thanks for cracking open this game for newer players, and shortening the information gap
is there a new update on farming ED guides in elsword this year?
The story quests alone offer a lot of ED, I got to 115 mil just off of them, I also el res farmed for a bit to make exp gain quicker.
Very good guide, I've been looking for a good one that's up to date.
Personally I just do weekly Rosso raid and do other dungeons if I feel up to it, maybe make a random character to get easy epic quest ED to help fund my main, I get a lot of magical crystals from crap gear along the way so it's even more ED.
I feel like for me i don't get burned out as much if I just do epic quests and try out different characters for fun :)
But my main is for raid and I have another main for erp leveling!
Overall very good guide, very useful and I even learned a few things even though I've been playing since 2014!
One thing to note on Reminaing El's Aspiration - I agree its simply a min-maxing thing but if you're a Luciel main, it's completely worth getting because it's bugged on them. The cooldown resets every time you switch characters through commands and skills. So you can proc multiple of the passive within a few seconds. I've had times where I spawned 3 in about 5 seconds lol.
As someone that farmed the dungeon and ended up getting the 15k Kill title with no passive drop...just get it from Henir Fragments instead honestly - if ED gain isn't something you're persistent on o/
People are not convinced Rosso raid is the best ED making in the game because... Rosso raid would be the best ED making if it gave reward every time you run it and if it didn't take half an hour to form, the same way if henir gave reward every time.
ED making is subject to change mostly due to market board price. Now if people would stop under-cutting glaciem price (now ~3.5k instead of the juicy 5k), 13-3 (trosh's nest) would be the current most efficient ED+EXP/stam.time dng to run regardless. Good party can run 13-3 sub 2 min easily.
Personally, I switch up between making new char for el collect, Altera SD, and 13-3 so I don't get bored. For new players, making more friends in Elsword will increase your ED gain because you form party faster and people carrying will reduce dng run time. So go make friends!
For those that have good luck tho... gamble on ib burning = fastest way to make ED :kekw:
Yo are u dumb? 13-3 for new player I like it :')
yes 13-3 is totally fair once you get the 550kcp, OR why not just make an alt and get to 332kcp smh. Keep in mind it was also 13-3 with a farming page
I frankly don't know how you have come to the conclusion that Rosso raid DOESN'T give you rewards every time you run it. Rosso raid (normal) drops stones every phase at a 100% chance and you get cubes at a 100% for every phase cleared. Yes, you only can get Rosso raid rewards once per week per character (if you don't use reset tickets), but as I mention in the Rosso raid farming guide that I mentioned in the video and linked in the description, you make raid alts to farm rosso raid. If you are referring to not having a fetch aura and not being able to pick up drops, in the Rosso raid farming video that I mentioned in the video and linked in the description, it tells you where you can pick up the drops if you don't have a fetch aura and it's generally pretty reasonable. I also frankly don't know how you have come to the conclusion that Rosso raid takes 30 minutes to form. Are you in the right raid server to find parties? Or are you looking for parties with useless classes, characters that don't do DPS and/or non fresh characters? (In addition, you can do HW or something else while you wait for a party- though like I mentioned above, it shouldn't take you so long to find a party if you are looking for one correctly.) I would greatly appreciate it if you would give me the benefit of the doubt that I know what I'm talking about and referred to the information I give before refuting my statements.
I understand that because of the way glaciem is bought- whales tend to buy a lot at once/sweep the board, that you can put glaciem at a higher price and it still can be bought, however, I do think you should consider that maybe the reason prices for glaciem are dropping is because they simply are going down in value.
I don't think you realize that in order to farm 13-3 efficiently, you need to get 550k cp with FARMING ERP. Getting 550k CP with a farming page is A LOT harder than hitting 332.5k CP with DAMAGE ERP. In addition, unless you are getting carried consistently- which is NOT reasonable for most players, you need FOJ + Rigomor armor generally to farm 13-3 comfortably (mainly because of the adaptation that FOJ + Rigomor armor gives). Recommending 13-3 for newer players is frankly absurd. In addition, I did mention that 13-3 IS a good way to farm ED/EXP, but not for newer players.
Also, I do hope you are aware that generally burning IBs is actually not profitable. So I don't know why you are suggesting that for any player. Selling k-ching, sure, but burning IBs is generally not profitable.
@@zack6607 Not trying to argue as I am simply sharing my personal opinion and if it came out that way, my apologies.
Well 30 minutes to form is exaggerated but it does take time and new player with lower cp don't always get picked (ya that person that called me dumb above is exactly what new players have to face in Elsword community). I am aware of slaves and yes I am aware it drops stone 100% when fresh and marks when not fresh (which are rewards too since pots do sell for a decent amount but not for "new players" as I am not sure you and the others have to stress so hard)
In my comment, I only mention new players in terms of making friends when you are starting out... There are simply no easy way to make ED for a new player besides making more char which has no cp requirement. Heck I wouldn't carry new players in farming (who would unless you are a CS God), but to help them grow in ways they otherwise can't. For example, MC quest chain 3-5/5, clearing Agate for the first time, and charity raid. I am just not convinced that Rosso is the best way to make ED even for new players. With low erp, it takes quite a bit of ED to make a slave to meet the cp requirement. Yes I am aware of bankable Elrianodes and yes in the long run you can make a ton of ED. By the time however, 13-3 becomes the most "efficient" dng to run. I am aware of glaciem sweep but the KC prices right now is not very enticing even for whales whom themselves can farm.
I never recommended 13-3 to new players nor have I recommended burning ib for the general player base and it is clearly a joke gambling on ibs...
I do appreciate your guides and I commend you for your work. Of course you know what you are talking about. I respect you as a Elsword content creator and I am thankful for your feedback as I don't comment often which I would need to fine tune my wording/tone. Keep up the great work!
Edit: I don't mention every little detail my bad there
@@emersont1769 new players can sell Treasure hunter stuff and barrier frags if they consistently run sds. Its not bad profit. Especially piling on blacksmith items for enhancement events when it's most profitable. Magic Crystals are also big money and easy to get.
Finally someone makes an Ed guide
bruh, i remember when the Barrier fragments costed 50-60k each.
BEEN WAITING FOR THIS !!!! THANK YOU SO MUCH !!!
This guide is a treasure. Thank you for your efforts!
I got my money with gaia he dropped 5 circlets and 2 earrings(3 if I count the one I'm using). Luck with him has been pretty solid so far.
This is a huge precious content, thank you so much
omg thank you so much :D this guide helped alot :D im still in the D tier of the map, but im happy to know where i am in terms of dungeons. Once im ready ill do daily secret dungeons and try for the title :) i loved this vid and i loved you Raven
This is very helpful. Thanks a bunch!
Holy, that's a great gudie, thanks for your efforts!
2 easy ways to make ed;
1- create new account make it 99lvl send that 150m story quest ed to yourself
2-dont, sell feet pics and buy k-ching
lmao
I think epics quests are a decent way to make ed when starting off, but making alt accounts doesn't seem productive in the way you are mentioning it. Imo when making ed you should be trying to hit as many birds with one stone as possible. Farming sds for ed can also give you el rewards and more importantly exp to raise your erp level. (This is just one example.) Having erp 300 allows for idr, ed gain and exp gain. Higher erp also makes getting alts into rosso easier, etc. Making more characters on one account helps with espc, alts for henir, rig, rosso, etc. Tldr I mean you can, but I dont think it's the best use of your time.
And also, selling kching for ed has always been a thing, but right now ed is generally harder to make and with all the ed sinks, a lot of ppl are turning to selling kching and it has almost reduced the value of kching by half. (If you are referring to selling feet pictures for kching to sell for ed.)
@@zack6607 no I was just referring to completely living off of k-ching 😭 HSHSHDBXKSJKENXKSNXKWNEOFJOCJXW but yeah since I literally don't like grinding i just create alt accs and make them 99lvl with my friend in 6 hours and we divide the money which is around 65m for each of us, I'm still trying to grind erp to make my grind alt to make it 100/100/100 for exp ed and idr (currently finished idr and dismantling the shitass equipments and selling the magical crystals alone gives me alot of money and it's currently enough for me) but I agree with the fact that in the long run investing into and alt account just for grinding and money making with different ways and using the board and selling stuff that has potential and drops from fairly easy dungeons is the best long run way but I don't technically like grinding the same dungeon for 6 hours and I also wanna invest some more money on my main for a few things (I barely passed 300k cp last week ㅜㅜㅜㅜㅜㅜ) so easiest and least riskiest way to make immediate money is alt endgame for me currently 🥺
@@gentlesubliminals7182 Oh I see o: It seems you have a good collaboration going on with your friend that seems cool. I agree that it's best to do what you are more comfortable with doing for ED.
I didn't notice u had the new char on the thumbnail until i got it spoilered. Lol
I just found this channel, a lot of good guides keep it up :thumbsup:
me who has never played this game before 2 days ago, trying to find a way to get back some ED i spent stupidly: ah i see
lmao
gracias, sos un amor al explicar :v entendii con mi ingles bien malo :3 new suscritor
Time to recommend this to the returning players
How about now when add dungeo is nerfed.. but they buffed elrionode unique droprate so it is worth to farm them and sell good ones for 10m+?
add dungeon probably is no longer worth running outside of farming the weapon :C
hmmm i think the update makes elrianode more worth farming, but not enough to change it's place in the tierlist.
Finally An ED Guide🥰
Found an error in your document.
"SDs are almost always worth doing for the daily and weekly SD quest that gives el rewards that can be used to get the title *Guardian of Elrianode* and/or used to upkeep the 100% EXP medal from Ariel." This is funny because you used the title's actual name later on in the Elrianode section.
You also might want to update the guide to match the current state of the game.
After i saw the given exp on each dungeon on the video, i think i should start creating an exp character before it's too late.
Commenting before I watch cuz that's a thing, will update later :photofunny:
Update: OmG dVc iS sOo GoOd NaNi?!
LMAO AJ
yo, but seriously, I stg some people either didn't watch the video and/or didn't process anything I said :joy:
I was there :D I think I just started the video LOL
Oh we are using current board prices? Hope you don't plan to remake this video monthly.
Also while henir is insane for ed the force service is gradually dropping in price.
On another note during infinite stamina days the tier list changes significantly, also if you are overgeared MR hell runs are insanely good for ed. 1 mark = roughly 300k ed you drop between 2-4 each run. if you do 1 minute runs thats insane already without counting artifact drops.
Why do Henri ED takes 1 week to come?
Henir gives you time and space fragments as a weekly reward for clearing it. Once you accumulate enough time and space fragments (you get a maximum of 144 fragments a week if you full clear normal and challenge mode) you can exchange them with Glave to get an item that increases the rarity of Force skills. The one to go from Rare Force skill to Elite is 500 Fragments, and from Elite to Unique, it's 1500 Fragments. Since it's so long to get, a lot of players prefer to pay to get the unique skill than upgrade it themselves, so you can buy a Force skill and upgrade it, then resell it for a lot more ED.
@@Galdael ooooh I see, thank you so much
@@dybbuk0835 You're welcome ^^
u cant sell crafted uniq
@@alp-1978 You can, it just needs a seal.
How to farm ED:
Get a raven
Dress him in sexy clothing
Sell it on the internet
Do some IM services with that money you made
Boom, ED
hello, is this tutorial still up to date?? just coming back to elsword :)
Void dungeon got murdered.
@@dynamo0098 ah, thanks!
Also since I'm not strong enough to farm trosh's what I do instead is create a new character, level them up, and then do late game story quests.
What about making multiple alts for story quests? It should be a guaranteed 200m ed from sander-elrianode and it would take around 2-4 days to complete one from creation. Is this a good way to farm ed?
I believe I did mention that in the video.
Main's erp are 100 exp, ed, and item drop? Why? Excuse the foolish question though
Question, is it better to just spam SD with a full ED/drop ERP or to open Rigomor service?
i don't think either one is heads over heels better than the other option, i think it ends up being preference (or you can do both too)
This does not apply to the current climate of the game is it?
I was wondering if DVC is worthy. I mean does the -5% mag/phy attack still apply while you awakening? Or the +10% attack is based on your attack without the -5% ? I ain't kno if I am clear
-5% is only when you are not awakened
dvc is one of the biggest power boosts you can get accessory wise since you should pretty much always be awakened in PVE
edit: sorry, I misspoke. the -5% is still there when you are awakened, but since you gain 10%, it's a net gain of 5%
@@zack6607 damn, that's a question I ask myself every time I farm this dungeon. Appreciate it
Which is the best way to get stamina potions?
do daily pvp and exchange pvp coin to stamina pot
Uhh no, the best is Ereda island. You exchange 15 of the rings for a chance from 1-4 stamina pots. Daily PvP is a too long strat to get pots. Do ereda
Unless you are a hardcore player, I personally find the stamina pots you get from exchanging in stewardship coins enough for me. (For info on that refer to the pve progression guide linked in the video description.)
You can also get stamina from exchanging in coins from the daily pvp quest and also from furniture.
If farming rosso raid is so profitable then shouldnt we all invest ERP on ASD after having 100 on Exp gain instead of IDR? Cuz I find myself stuck at 240K cp for investing 100 on exp gain
th-cam.com/video/qCyAyq5Ohvg/w-d-xo.html refer to this video with help for hitting the cp requirement
if you want to "farm" rosso raid, you need to do it on alt characters. so you would invest in ASD first and then polarize on your alt characters to help hit the cp requirement. the vid linked above talks more in depth about that.
for your main you should be investing erp in exp gain first, then item drop rate, then ed gain
What is "Endgame player"?
What are better ways to get stamina potions?
hmmm... at the time of making this video i was thinking that getting stam pots from stewardship coins should be enough, but i've realized that some people do farm pretty hardcore and in that case then ereda is probably the best way to farm stam pots (furniture does help as well)
i guess i was also thinking that in the case players are farming lower end dungeons that cost a lot of stam (ex.sds or add) then making an alt/alts would suffice
Is this the updated ver. ?
u cant sell crafted henir uniq
th-cam.com/video/BaCiQAB8qb0/w-d-xo.html
You can't sell crafted Henir (unique) if you buy the Henir (elite) skill or transfer from another character, because the reduction in seal count transfers over after upgrading.
However, rare force skills are bank shareable and tradeable without sealing. So if you buy a rare force skill or transfer from another characters, then upgrade that to unique, you can seal and sell it.
You can 100% sell a unique force skill, but you have to be aware of the seal count?
@UCO4yzMiRVnTnrgZ5GQdcKDg So you are incorrect or do not understand how Seal Counts work. A craftable Unique Head Hunter is very sellable, and I have sold quite a few myself. The only caveat is you must not trade it until it is Unique, you must keep it on one character until it is fully upgraded.
A Unique Head Hunter has 1 seal count, but it will share that Seal Count with the Elite Version if you upgraded it from there. You must NOT TRADE it while it is Elite, as that will take the 1 seal count you get while it is Unique.
@@MeteorFalcon yes
What does ESPC stand for?
www.elwiki.net/w/El_Search_Party_Collection el search party collection
wwut what 13-4 gain 125m exp ??? i got 50m at 400% exp =]]]] ?????? or this is NA only ??
I mentioned this in the video but the exp data I collected for 11-3 was from each member doing 250 kills. As also mentioned in the video the amount of exp you get depends on the number of kills, so that's probably why you arent getting the same amount of exp.
Hey zack! Can I do the translation to brasilian portuguese for you?
how are you thinking of doing so since youtube removed community contributed ccs
Does IDR have an impact on accessories drop rates please ?
Yes, but the results are hard to see because the system is still RNG based. My RNG is off the chart. I be getting 3-5 DVCs a week but that's my RNG. You just have to believe. Goodluck
@@The100ss ow okay. But what is RNG ??
@@adambreat8791 rng= random number generator. Basically your luck
@@TomEllisLovesU okok ty
waw that data :o
rh or fb for farming ed?
either one should be fine, there shouldn't be a big difference
Grazie mille
Aaahh un italiano, SPIEGAMI PER FAVORE PERCHÈ L'INGLESE NIN LO CAPISCONO BENE. ;(
@@waifumaterial9149 In sintesi,se hai equip end game o comunque ben piazzato, i dungeon più redditizi sono Henir, Raid e 13-3(il livello acquatico con le 3 zanzare geneticamente modificate per intenderci),se sei una nuova giocatrice o hai dell'equip "Mediocre", i dungeon con un buon guadagno sono Raid, Henir, Teoria di Add, Dungeon Segreti, 11-4 (laboratorio di debrian se non sbaglio) e 12-8(il livello dopo i raid). Il resto sono i soliti consigli dal fare le quest giornaliere, al fare le Epic con altri pg(Da Ranox a fine Elianod fai intorno ai 200kk).
Per semplificarti la vita gli obbbbbiettivi sono:
-Portare la Risonanza a livello 300(cosi da mettere i punti in Esperienza,Drop ed ED)
-Equipaggiarti nel tempo con Set Rigomor + Arma Maain + Accessori + Set Sciogli + Tutte le piccolezze
-Fare le missioni giornaliere/settimanali
Se hai bisogno di qualcosa di piu specifico,chiarimenti o sassi vari chiedi pure!
@@LotoPurpureo grazie mille! ;D
i've stopped the grinding since 10-7 got nerfed lol.
What? Me? Farm for DVC?! I've just been getting Forginay title on my alts thats...all...;-;
Back to the game after 4 yrs 😂
welcome back!
"Most efficient way of making ED in a game is to have fun"
Okay, S> KC 20:100 Altera - Altera or pm me UwU
420 ameth in 50 run how???
Through the daily and weekly rigomor quests. You get 25 daily and 100 weekly. It takes 5 runs to clear the daily and 15 runs to clear the weekly. The daily counts towards the weekly. If you do the daily quest for 10 days, you will get 250 amethyst. Then you will get 100 from the first week or 7 days and 100 from the second week next 3 days. So 450 in 50 runs.
Hi, Anyone wanna make a ed gain accessory guide?
1. Build as many Item Drop Rate%
2. clear a dungeon with a good/ expensive accessory
3. pray you'll get them :)
I'm only level 54 ;-;
This game is a giant grind fest my god. Maybe void closing had some points
Sell stuff...
DebLab spam
How to grind ED? You don’t, you just uninstall the game.
what is EXODIA in raid rosso? jjjajaja diganme que es eso de exodia me suena a yu-gi-oh!! :v
exodia is a term players in NA use to refer to the raid accessories Undying Flame, Demonic Eye and Mark of Inferno
@@zack6607 oh!!! Thank you so much ^^
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Who else is saving up ED for Noah?
A weirdo with a nice voice, ara ara.