@@That_One_Sunshine_KnightWhen you'd get into a good lobby and just have a blast. Fun times. I remember some one on my friend's list setting up the over 6 people in a lobby glitch and getting the shotgun despite aiming for the sniper rifle and thinking "well I got something good"
Remember when you could mod the damage type of a legendary weapon and change it between Arc, Solar and Void? Wish they'd bring that back in crafting/enhancing tbh
Fourth horseman has my favourite damage rotation setup in the game currently. Running a cascade point BS edge transit on stasis hunter with the "melee reload" fragment and dragons shadow. Situational but so satisfying.
@@lucienmoolman8017 It'd be worse since it doesn't have cascade point in the third colomn. Now the dungeon gl, that can roll Cascade / BnS, and would be an upgrade over Edge transit.
@@cerulean5032 I guess that makes sense. I'm still on the hunt for Cascade/BnS chill inhibitor but I have seen the damage it puts out which is insane amounts of damage
I hit em with the BOOBOOBOOBOOBOOM then I hit em with the broop broop broop broop broop broop broop then I hit em with the fwoosh then the broop broop broop broop broop broop broop then I hit em with the BOOBOOBOOBOOBOOM then I hit em woth the broop broop broop broop broop broop broop then with the fwoosh then with the broop broop broop broop broop broop broop then I hit em with the BOOBOOBOOBOOBOOM then I hit em with the pew pew pew (Shoot to loot sound effect), hit em with that dodge and run it all back baby!
I fucking despise how 4th horseman’s whole thing is being the shotgun dps king yet it can’t properly do that cuz bungie game design requires every boss to stomp you if you get within 5 feet of it
Based on the API ironically it seems like that roll is a lot easier to get but I think they're fixing it this week so I'd definitely try to get it before Tuesday (the most efficent way I found was doing expert haunted lost sectors to get eerie engrams and them just gaining candy by farming the last boss of shattered throne).
@@silvergrimoire What are u on about lol? celestial/still hunt and spirit of synthos/navigator combo on prism hunter are literally THE HIGHEST dps rotations in the game. Spirit of foetracer/stareaters? Rev hunter with impetus/dragonshadow? RDM with rockets/parasite? Lucky Pants with wardens law was untouched. We have the highest, most varied and viable dps rotations among all three classes. Warlock is only now comparable to hunter because of star eaters and titan, well....punches? Assuming his super changes stay he might have something other than wormgods and synthos rotations.
@@SilasEngelbrecht-h4z PVE discipline/strength(depending on build but normally discipline) with resillience, PVP recovery with discipline/strength(depending on what I said before) and intellect, so yes I would recommend a triple 100 build for pvp and only a double 100 for pve.
@@SilasEngelbrecht-h4z all classes should get at least tier-9 resil but tier-10 is recommended. Warlocks should focus on getting hight recovery and preferably also high discipline
@@SilasEngelbrecht-h4z resilience and discipline, same as the others, recovery is nice and mobility is nice on hunter but at the end of the day builds can make up for your class ability or devour can make up for healing rift. idk any hunter who's struggling for dodges, considering combination blow, also strategist exists now
Got a 4th T, Precision roll on my 2nd or 3rd drop of arcane. Went to D2 foundry to cook up what the “perfect” roll would be, and it was almost exactly what I got. Hammer forged, tac mag, 4th T, prec. If I wanna be picky I got a handling MW and I would rather range (not that it needs it but ya know, more range go brr) and I absolutely love it. Definitely would be looking out for one with surrounded in place of precision tho 🤔
The other trick with Acrius is like Rocket Launchers where if you press reload as soon as the shot goes off you can start reloading sooner than if you let it auto reload.
People fail to realize the timer in between wash shot with conditional. You can beat that by putting a melee in between both shots. So you’d go stasis punch solar reload rinse repeat. It makes the dps significantly better.
@@XM8A1 no fusions can't get precision hits but this guy is talking about merciless's other perk impetus which increases dmg by 50% on a kill for a bit
The Fourth Horseman is so good. For any close to mid range boss damage it is really good to include in rotations. The range issues you can negate with either a rally barricade or someone running luna's and it is S tier for any boss where you are using div. It is the best major/champs melter in the game and I have been struggling to remove it from my builds because I enjoy it so much.
@@killclip6449 I already looked at Aegis' damage testing. The highest ranking nonswap slug without surrounded he has listed is Nessa's, and it's dps is well below what Arcane embrace has. Hell, look at how supercluster with surrounded compares to arcane embrace with surrounded, nearly identical total damage, but arcane embrace has slightly better dps.
Theres a fragment that lets you double freeze with conditional if you successfully freeze them with the first shot so basically you get 2 stasis shots and one ignition with without reloading
Regarding conditional, idk how many people are doing it this way, but I suspect that the long delay between the shots is for you to squeeze in a melee hit on the frozen target which does bonus frozen damage and then you follow up with the second igniting shot. I just don't see many people using it like that so decided to throw it in here. The damage this way is very high
@@charleslyra5458 Kinetic doesn't matter for boss dps, and for boss dps it has worse perks. Aztecross was not testing shotguns for nuking majors, he was testing shotguns for boss dps. And for boss dps, there is little reason to use perfect paradox over until it's return.
I’ve been using the strand shotty until its return w trench barrel and I’m loving it Unfortunately not very many good perks in the right column but well rounded has done me good getting a huge stat boost to make it really fast.
Duality has been good. I’ve seen so many comments saying stuff like “does he know about duality?”. I’ve used it in my no backup plans build and IT CHUNKS. Though the buff there on the uptime definitely made it more viable for harder content (it was only ever viable for legend onslaught and lost sectors beforehand)
I dont think anyone was coming to that conclusion. Shotguns are the best anti barrier option this season, gotta see which ones pump out the most damage
yeah considering how you have to be twice as accurate with arcane embrace as you do with slugs for such a minimal benefit when people don't really use slugs as it is, i guess it's just a novelty
@@TelosBudo if you're a reductionist then it doesnt change much. Dps, total damage, and ammo efficiency are all roughly displayed in videos like this. All things that are worth considering when choosing which weapon is optimal for your current needs.
Super cluster - recon - cascade point A sudden death - envious - cascade point I want to see this dps in oryx because cascade point proc on him, maybe a tractor for heavy
Cross if you ever do another vespers host dps vid… I just threw on winterbite as a little joke to see what it could do on raneiks. I was pretty shocked at the DAMAGE… I wonder if a full team on 3 with winterbites possibly one phase🤔
I haven't done any raids since they made the "taunt" effect for Titans barricades/unbreakable. So I'm not sure if they can taunt raid bosses but, would it potentially help in these testing so you have less flinch/screenshake to worry about? Like have a Titan on a ledge above you so you can still see crit spot, or have them below you for the same reason?
I thought Arcane could also get Cascade Point. That would be insane burst damage. In a perfect world i would love to see Arcane with Cascade and Trench barrel on a No Backup Plans titan.
No aggressive or lightweight frames included, including snap ignition damage in some of the results, not being in optimal range for Acrius... Kinda sloppy, Cross.
I wonder how much the top contenders would do on a Titan using No Backup Plans standing behind a Bastion Rally Barricade now that overshields have been buffed.
did you try it with no backup plans? doesnt it give it a 35% buff to the damage of shotguns? would that be a potential dps strat for something like 2nd encounter salvations edge?
Used until it's return to melt the barriers in this week's nightfall. Flatlines them. Mind you, I'm playing on controller and can barely contain the recoil lol
That’s total damage but what about a champion scenario where you want dps and ease of use. I use shotguns as mostly a champion killer. Heritage has been my go to. Is there now a better one in each slot?
Against anything not a boss Kinetic still get that 15% extra damage so I'd say Heritage is still better there. It's mostly in cases where you maybe dump all your heavy and need damage for last stand is where a weapon like this shotty with FTTC + PI could find it's home as FTTC allows for really good ammo economy. Also this frame type is probably the best to pair with a Cascade weapon like Cascade + BnS on Chill Inhibitor as it should proc it with the 1 shot 2 burst.
What about old Sojourners tale with surrounded?? I have a good roll if needed lol it's the old one so no enhance but it's been my go to shorty this season
It would have made more sense to run some of these with no backup plans on a titan because there's a massive difference in damage granted I'm well aware this is a baseline across the board 4 simplicity reasons
You should use arcane with the Titan shotgun gaunts on void Titan. Having an over shield gives you a flat 25% damage bump. You’d get over a mil damage with half the mag. GG
It’s even higher, it’s 35%, just throw down a bastion rally barricade, you can dance around it and still get the OS, or sit behind it and lay into things. I can’t wait.
You forgot the kill clip perk on merciless, which is a buffed version of the perk compared to kill clip on legendary weapons. Merciless should be at the top here.
Hear me out, wouldn't it be cool if Duality was just like Ticu's but a shotgun? Scorch on hip fire, ignite the scorch on weakspot ADS... Personally, that would be really fun to me.
@flymasterkyle1277 Conditional only ignites when all pellets land does it? And most people use that for the freezing shot unless you're in PvP. And Ticuu's has range/lock on with the hip fire but doesn't trigger a true ignition. The explosion of Ticuu's also doesn't require a weakspot. I want Duality's ADS to proc an ignition off any scorch, not just from the hip fire
damage test is my favorite time of the week
Faxxxx
Yup lol
Someone shout test 3 dualities vs grasp of avarice
Remember when Ikelos shotty was like, the king back when it first came out? Pepperidge farm remembers.
Taking names on Mars during escalation protocol.
Good times.
Literally the reason Trench Barrel got nerfed 😄
@@That_One_Sunshine_KnightWhen you'd get into a good lobby and just have a blast. Fun times. I remember some one on my friend's list setting up the over 6 people in a lobby glitch and getting the shotgun despite aiming for the sniper rifle and thinking "well I got something good"
…The brand I buy cookies from?😂
Remember when you could mod the damage type of a legendary weapon and change it between Arc, Solar and Void? Wish they'd bring that back in crafting/enhancing tbh
RIP to Lord of Wolves. Will never be properly fixed because of pvp.
Fourth horseman has my favourite damage rotation setup in the game currently. Running a cascade point BS edge transit on stasis hunter with the "melee reload" fragment and dragons shadow. Situational but so satisfying.
@@weebonamountain3700 Have you tried using bitter/sweet so that you match surges with 4th horseman?
@@lucienmoolman8017 It'd be worse since it doesn't have cascade point in the third colomn. Now the dungeon gl, that can roll Cascade / BnS, and would be an upgrade over Edge transit.
@@cerulean5032 I guess that makes sense. I'm still on the hunt for Cascade/BnS chill inhibitor but I have seen the damage it puts out which is insane amounts of damage
I hit em with the BOOBOOBOOBOOBOOM then I hit em with the broop broop broop broop broop broop broop then I hit em with the fwoosh then the broop broop broop broop broop broop broop then I hit em with the BOOBOOBOOBOOBOOM then I hit em woth the broop broop broop broop broop broop broop then with the fwoosh then with the broop broop broop broop broop broop broop then I hit em with the BOOBOOBOOBOOBOOM then I hit em with the pew pew pew (Shoot to loot sound effect), hit em with that dodge and run it all back baby!
The conclusso special, ah yess
The guy in the salvations edge trailer taking duality into the raid laughing right now
and I'm laughing at them still because that was before the buffs to it.
@@dushbig5628they were beta testing those updates
@dushbig5628 you're just afraid that he can use a shotgun on the witness and you can't
@@SpaceElvisInc Show me a video of someone using a shotgun for good Witness DPS and I'll retract my statement.
@dushbig5628 you say this like your statement matters, I ain't wasting my time unless you pay me goofy
I fucking despise how 4th horseman’s whole thing is being the shotgun dps king yet it can’t properly do that cuz bungie game design requires every boss to stomp you if you get within 5 feet of it
even a hydra can stomp you and it doesn’t have legs
Du-du-du-du *STOMP* aaaaannnnnd away we goooooo!
melee lunge
DPS =/= burst DPS, learn the difference.
And melee cancel boss stomps.
Honestly that has to be the most annoying boss ability I've seen in this game. Even smaller bosses can stomp you away.
That fttc role has so much total damage, left with 23 in reserves and still beat out supercluster!
That's what I like about it too. Pumps out pretty good damage while being super ammo efficient.
My first random drop of Arcane Embrace was FTTC + Precision Instrument and Extended Mag
Better off with appended
@ ah damn you’re right 😭
Based on the API ironically it seems like that roll is a lot easier to get but I think they're fixing it this week so I'd definitely try to get it before Tuesday (the most efficent way I found was doing expert haunted lost sectors to get eerie engrams and them just gaining candy by farming the last boss of shattered throne).
Duality walked in the wrong room and made itself worthwhile enough in the end…
The satisfaction of watching those high numbers and multiple different guns fire it just hits different when it comes to dmg testing
Obviously the best shotgun for dps and damage is Chaprone, according to my friend who used it versus Echtar
chaperone lowkey good asf with the recent buff
jez would be proud
Warlock main lol
Stg he just play titan when it's needed to use on a build for BB
Don't blame the man he's just playing the best class
@@TheBitingBatUnfortunately, you’re right
- A disgruntled Titan player
@@A_Helix_Ahe is right currently as a hunter my dps options are poop 😐😐😐😐
@@silvergrimoire What are u on about lol? celestial/still hunt and spirit of synthos/navigator combo on prism hunter are literally THE HIGHEST dps rotations in the game. Spirit of foetracer/stareaters? Rev hunter with impetus/dragonshadow? RDM with rockets/parasite? Lucky Pants with wardens law was untouched. We have the highest, most varied and viable dps rotations among all three classes. Warlock is only now comparable to hunter because of star eaters and titan, well....punches? Assuming his super changes stay he might have something other than wormgods and synthos rotations.
Been running Duality in PVE with the ritual assault and the Lightfall wave Heavy GL, very good this artifact. I KNEW it would put out.
I ran duality for years in pve when it came out that and my demo trench perfect paradox were my two fav guns
I didn’t think the duality tweak woulda give it that bump but damn, it’s matching fourth horseman, with even more ammo to spare. Very nice.
I’m glad Until its Return got a showcase. One of the last weapons I crafted before season of the deep ended and I love it still
Supercluster and the Wastelander M5 are my favorites for the kinetic slot.
1:13 resilience jumpscare. Can we really call aztecross a warlock main if his stats looks this fucked up?
What stats should warlocks focus for?
It looks like he’s actually got good stats considering he’s a warlock with 90 recov and discipline
@@SilasEngelbrecht-h4z PVE discipline/strength(depending on build but normally discipline) with resillience, PVP recovery with discipline/strength(depending on what I said before) and intellect, so yes I would recommend a triple 100 build for pvp and only a double 100 for pve.
@@SilasEngelbrecht-h4z all classes should get at least tier-9 resil but tier-10 is recommended. Warlocks should focus on getting hight recovery and preferably also high discipline
@@SilasEngelbrecht-h4z resilience and discipline, same as the others, recovery is nice and mobility is nice on hunter but at the end of the day builds can make up for your class ability or devour can make up for healing rift. idk any hunter who's struggling for dodges, considering combination blow, also strategist exists now
Thank you for testing until it’s return, hands down my favorite legendary shotgun for pve
Got a 4th T, Precision roll on my 2nd or 3rd drop of arcane. Went to D2 foundry to cook up what the “perfect” roll would be, and it was almost exactly what I got. Hammer forged, tac mag, 4th T, prec. If I wanna be picky I got a handling MW and I would rather range (not that it needs it but ya know, more range go brr) and I absolutely love it. Definitely would be looking out for one with surrounded in place of precision tho 🤔
Good ol horsey still got it! Glad to see Duality up there, though. It feels SO much better, now.
The other trick with Acrius is like Rocket Launchers where if you press reload as soon as the shot goes off you can start reloading sooner than if you let it auto reload.
I forgot this thing existed... Until he gets melted by a Captain using the same weapon and remembers
❤ these damage test videos!
People fail to realize the timer in between wash shot with conditional. You can beat that by putting a melee in between both shots. So you’d go stasis punch solar reload rinse repeat. It makes the dps significantly better.
He didn’t get a kill with merciless first, it’s a 50% dmg increase on the rest of the mag.
Can fusions even get precision hits? Cuz I didn't notice any yellow numbers on Merciless tests
@@XM8A1 no fusions can't get precision hits but this guy is talking about merciless's other perk impetus which increases dmg by 50% on a kill for a bit
@@giga-egg ik what he's talking bout. I was just askin bout precision hits for knowledge
The Fourth Horseman is so good. For any close to mid range boss damage it is really good to include in rotations. The range issues you can negate with either a rally barricade or someone running luna's and it is S tier for any boss where you are using div. It is the best major/champs melter in the game and I have been struggling to remove it from my builds because I enjoy it so much.
Who else here after ehroar said heritage was better than arcanes.... We love giving bad info
Exotics are different btb
even if he did the test wrong fact remains you have to be twice as precise and also want to use a shotgun in the first place
Except heritage is better. The burst shotgun does lower dps, has lower total damage, and takes twice as long to reload
@@killclip6449 The total damage is about the same, but dps of Arcane is better than slugs. Slugs only have higher dps when used for swapping.
@ that’s just flat out false. Slugs do more dps, go watch testing videos before spewing made up info
@@killclip6449 I already looked at Aegis' damage testing. The highest ranking nonswap slug without surrounded he has listed is Nessa's, and it's dps is well below what Arcane embrace has.
Hell, look at how supercluster with surrounded compares to arcane embrace with surrounded, nearly identical total damage, but arcane embrace has slightly better dps.
Theres a fragment that lets you double freeze with conditional if you successfully freeze them with the first shot so basically you get 2 stasis shots and one ignition with without reloading
IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS!!
Cross, would you do an SMG Damage testing vid? With Peacekeepers maybe? :D I love your damage testing videos!
Regarding conditional, idk how many people are doing it this way, but I suspect that the long delay between the shots is for you to squeeze in a melee hit on the frozen target which does bonus frozen damage and then you follow up with the second igniting shot.
I just don't see many people using it like that so decided to throw it in here.
The damage this way is very high
paradox is insane how didnt it get tested
Perfect Paradox is legit the best shotgun in the game.
Because he tested until it's return, which is a shotgun of the exact same frame and slot, but better for dps.
@@cerulean5032tks, I was asking myself the same thing.
But I was thinking now...
Perfect paradox is Kinect and has better perks
What rolls?
@@charleslyra5458 Kinetic doesn't matter for boss dps, and for boss dps it has worse perks. Aztecross was not testing shotguns for nuking majors, he was testing shotguns for boss dps. And for boss dps, there is little reason to use perfect paradox over until it's return.
Statis hunter w/ bakris and 4th horseman is just crazy
I think another thing to consider is the ammo economy on arcane vs the others and even that of merci
I’ve been using the strand shotty until its return w trench barrel and I’m loving it
Unfortunately not very many good perks in the right column but well rounded has done me good getting a huge stat boost to make it really fast.
Where is Nessa's Obilation?
That’s why I love IKELOS_SG for day 1s
Who ever said Lord of wolves you're a real one for that
Duality has been good. I’ve seen so many comments saying stuff like “does he know about duality?”. I’ve used it in my no backup plans build and IT CHUNKS. Though the buff there on the uptime definitely made it more viable for harder content (it was only ever viable for legend onslaught and lost sectors beforehand)
I was really only there as a warm body for a short time but I appreciate being able to participate. 😅
It's hard to control, but if he hit every crit with LoW with release the wolves, would've been 1,333,680 dmg
Song of Flame, Apoth + Star Eater, Legend of Acrius, arc loaders, arc surges..... GG.
And the longest damage phase in existence… gg
@@thebhoy8561 care taker
No testing with No Backup Plans?
I was wondering this too since it drastically increases these numbers
It applies the same multiplier to every shotgun tho. It wouldn’t change the rankings
@@HotSauceMan46 Doesnt matter then, the order is still the same but higher numbers
cuz warlock main
NBP is an empowering buff, same as well. It's 35% which overrides well's 25%. Increase Cross's numbers by 8% and you'll have your numbers.
But we can use these shotguns on Barriers right now, so this showcase here is really good.
I'm so happy I managed to get a fourth times the charm and precision instrument
Adept Comedian shotgun has been working great
Wanted to see a rapid fire frame shotgun in there for another round of damage test.
With anti barrier shotgun, fourth horseman is utterly incredible. Absolutely melts barrier champs.
Thanks for the numbers. 🤠
I’ve been using horsemen and guillotine on crota since the raid came out. People on lfg called me crazy
Conclusion: Don't use shotguns for boss dps
I dont think anyone was coming to that conclusion. Shotguns are the best anti barrier option this season, gotta see which ones pump out the most damage
@Adam-tu1qx what difference does 700k-1.1 million dps over 10 seconds make with a barrier champion?
yeah considering how you have to be twice as accurate with arcane embrace as you do with slugs for such a minimal benefit when people don't really use slugs as it is, i guess it's just a novelty
@@TelosBudo if you're a reductionist then it doesnt change much.
Dps, total damage, and ammo efficiency are all roughly displayed in videos like this. All things that are worth considering when choosing which weapon is optimal for your current needs.
nah 4th horseman is great for burst dps to start your damage phase, think crota and herald as good examples.
Super cluster
- recon
- cascade point
A sudden death
- envious
- cascade point
I want to see this dps in oryx because cascade point proc on him, maybe a tractor for heavy
Cross why are you not using no backup plans with the bastion aspect on a rally barricade? Easy dps right there.
i need a duality build now
Would loved to see legato because it can roll with deconstruct and vorpal, focused fire, frenzy, and cascade point.
Enhanced Prec Instr on Embrace vs Regular Prec Instr on Sojourner's Tale also matters.
Cross if you ever do another vespers host dps vid… I just threw on winterbite as a little joke to see what it could do on raneiks. I was pretty shocked at the DAMAGE… I wonder if a full team on 3 with winterbites possibly one phase🤔
dang arcane embrace is pretty good wow, just gotta hit those headshots, and with fourth times the charm you'll have a ton of ammo
0:55 always the "wooow"
why not use no backup plans titan isnt it like 35% buff to shotguns?
This is my question too - I swear when he does Handcannon testing he uses Lucky Pants, so NBP would be the equivalent here wouldn't it?
yea and all you really need is a shotgun with distablizing rounds and repulse blast you don't even need to be on a void class.
ppl use rain of fire for shotgun dps to skip the reload, no backups plans damage is nice but not as good
I haven't done any raids since they made the "taunt" effect for Titans barricades/unbreakable. So I'm not sure if they can taunt raid bosses but, would it potentially help in these testing so you have less flinch/screenshake to worry about? Like have a Titan on a ledge above you so you can still see crit spot, or have them below you for the same reason?
OH BABY HERE WE GO
I thought Arcane could also get Cascade Point. That would be insane burst damage. In a perfect world i would love to see Arcane with Cascade and Trench barrel on a No Backup Plans titan.
Surrounded is hella good. Yeah its inconsistent but so is every other perk. Goodluck hitting all crits with precision instrument
You guys need to do this again on Titan with the exotic No backup Plans that increase shotgun damage with overshields
No aggressive or lightweight frames included, including snap ignition damage in some of the results, not being in optimal range for Acrius... Kinda sloppy, Cross.
Are them slugs?
Should’ve used Acrius with Song of Flame. It’s a match made in heaven.
LET THE DAMAGE TEST BEGIN
You should test cascade point supercluster with cascade point legato. Curious to see how well permanent casc point uptime does on 2 slug shotties
I wonder how much the top contenders would do on a Titan using No Backup Plans standing behind a Bastion Rally Barricade now that overshields have been buffed.
4th horseman and mask of bakris go crazy
did you try it with no backup plans? doesnt it give it a 35% buff to the damage of shotguns? would that be a potential dps strat for something like 2nd encounter salvations edge?
I wonder if No Backup Plans would work well with boosting shotgun damage
Lord of wolves being that close to cloud strike surprised me 😮
No back up plans titan watching this video intensely
Used until it's return to melt the barriers in this week's nightfall. Flatlines them. Mind you, I'm playing on controller and can barely contain the recoil lol
Hey Cross next time can you test merciless with its kill clip buff if possible?
That’s total damage but what about a champion scenario where you want dps and ease of use. I use shotguns as mostly a champion killer. Heritage has been my go to. Is there now a better one in each slot?
arcane embrace is prob the best energy option
Against anything not a boss Kinetic still get that 15% extra damage so I'd say Heritage is still better there. It's mostly in cases where you maybe dump all your heavy and need damage for last stand is where a weapon like this shotty with FTTC + PI could find it's home as FTTC allows for really good ammo economy.
Also this frame type is probably the best to pair with a Cascade weapon like Cascade + BnS on Chill Inhibitor as it should proc it with the 1 shot 2 burst.
Lord of Wolves was twerkin a lil too hard for him 😂 need the fireteam behind him for support like back in the 99 & 00's
What about old Sojourners tale with surrounded?? I have a good roll if needed lol it's the old one so no enhance but it's been my go to shorty this season
Supercluster also gets cascade point. I wonder if increase in rpm could even take it higher
poor Felwinter -- even with all the shotty buffs this season, you still won't see a single ray of light deep in the recesses of everybody's vault...
Dont let its tizzle hear you say that
It would have made more sense to run some of these with no backup plans on a titan because there's a massive difference in damage granted I'm well aware this is a baseline across the board 4 simplicity reasons
I do hope ignition gets fixed in act 2, just so conditional finality can go back to its rightful place.
Ignition damage is bugged? Is that why consecration doesn’t one shot in pvp?
It's my birthday tomorrow and I want to run my first dungeon know first few parts of prophecy but haven't done any other dungeons
I'm not seeing many guardians wearing the Aztecross mask in this year's festival of the lost
Surprised rain of fire and lunafaction boots werent consistent in all the test
Why did Merciless' damage go down with its perk active? I thought that reducing the charge time doesn’t decrease the damage
You should use arcane with the Titan shotgun gaunts on void Titan.
Having an over shield gives you a flat 25% damage bump.
You’d get over a mil damage with half the mag.
GG
It’s even higher, it’s 35%, just throw down a bastion rally barricade, you can dance around it and still get the OS, or sit behind it and lay into things. I can’t wait.
The buff doesn’t stack with well
@ true, but it’sa higher dps buff than well, while well can help with healing for dps checks
No Reprieve with triple tap + focused fury or surrounded: I guess people have forgotten about me
That wasn’t Merciless with Impetus, was it? Because Merciless with Impetus clears over 1 million damage easily.
It definitely wasn't.
Bro duality puts out goddamn.
So acrius and forth horseman as usual. Not surprised.
You forgot the kill clip perk on merciless, which is a buffed version of the perk compared to kill clip on legendary weapons. Merciless should be at the top here.
Fortissimo with fourth time's the charm + surrounded?
Hear me out, wouldn't it be cool if Duality was just like Ticu's but a shotgun? Scorch on hip fire, ignite the scorch on weakspot ADS...
Personally, that would be really fun to me.
But then it would be too similar to both Ticuu and Conditional.
@flymasterkyle1277 Conditional only ignites when all pellets land does it? And most people use that for the freezing shot unless you're in PvP. And Ticuu's has range/lock on with the hip fire but doesn't trigger a true ignition. The explosion of Ticuu's also doesn't require a weakspot. I want Duality's ADS to proc an ignition off any scorch, not just from the hip fire
That supercluster bet was intact NOT the easiest bet of my life😭
Chaperone is back jez will be so happy
Why not proc roadborne on Chappy before starting DPS?