Lots of bersa fans here, im glad its what i bought eventually today with minimal research prior to purchase. The seller talked me into it, glad it proved him correct based on my research after the fact, which is what you shouldnt do. Glad it all worked out.
The. Bersa Thunder concealed carry model is the best of all five!! It has a little heft to it but just right, and it has the least recoil of them all!! Also it’s magazines hold 8+1!! Also it has a fixed barrel for more accuracy, you can load the chamber with one round then insert the magazine with 8 rounds which gives you 9 rounds. Since you have one in the chamber then you can put it on safety which is a decocker, then take the safety off and you have a safe to carry ready to fire double action pull. Then each consecutive 8 rounds are single action with a really nice 3.5 lb. trigger pull!!
I bought a Bersa Thunder Plus 380 (15+1 double stack magazine) for my wife years ago and she loves it. My only regret is not getting a second one for myself when the get'n was good and easy.
@@Professional_street_hustler same. Private seller was selling a Nickel version for like $180 w/ free shipping. Still makes me lose sleep. Then again it was years ago we will NEVER see those prices again
I have a Bersa Plus 15 + 1. Great gun. Not mentioned in this video about any Bersa, it has adjustable rear sights, round chamber indicator, barrel key trigger lock if you have children, easy to disassemble, fixed barrel (which makes it very accurate). And the double single action is great. One can tell where the reset is on the trigger so on the single action shots, you can muscle memory know when to pull the second trigger shots. My pocket gun is a Remington RM380, great reliable gun with the smoothest trigger pull, feels like it is on a roller bearing. And I compared this trigger pull to every pocket CC gun, and the Remington RM 380 is by far the smoothest. And for me I don't subconsciously think about the trigger and focus on sight picture. But I can't say enough about the Bersa. And again, adjusting the rear sight is a BIG option. This allows you to fine tune how the gun fits your hand and know your sight picture is already adjusted for your personal grip. And I am glad Marksman TV is pushing this for women.At shows I point out to women the gun, but see their husbands or boyfriends scoff at this gun based on them wanted to push name brand. So any husbands, boyfriends or women reading this, you really need to open your mind up to this fantastic little gun. It is a pleasure to shoot, with little recoil (which helps keeps it from jamming or stove piping), safe, reliable, adjustable sights, safety de-cocker, barrel key lock, slide lock, round indicator in the chamber, double/single action, smooth trigger, light trigger pull, easy to pull slide, great grips, many color choices, low printing under the cloths (which I use a band elastic holster to carry all day) , light overall weight, easy to take apart and clean, fixed barrel that makes it very accurate, made by a company that has been around since 1958, and is a really great James Bond looking gun. I have used it in two gun competition out to 25 yards. I use synthetic wheel bearing grease and all my guns show no wear and are as tight as when I bought them.
I just love this man’s videos. Straight forward, right to the point. Speaks from knowledge and experience of a certified dealer. No fluff, no weird ads, non-opinionated. Keep up the good work🤝
Lots of people making mistakes buying the Ruger LCP because it's the smallest and cutest, but everyone hates the LCP because of its nasty recoil! LCP II isn't much better. But everyone loves the Bersa Thunder 380! It's a bit too big for a pocket but it's much more comfortable to shoot!
LCP is a great carry gun. I have the first generation model, which is actually a bit smaller than the current offering. Not the best at the range, but that's not what it was built for. Can be pocket carried, feeds reliably, pretty decent accuracy, well made, low cost. I have zero complaints about this gun.
I bought one a few days ago, for both the size and the price. It has become my EDC gun. Much easier to conceal carry than my .38 snubbie (which I sold for more than I paid for my LCP). But since it is not a good recreational shooting gun, I am seriously considering getting a Bersa Thunder for that (and home defense). Of the five Marksman discussed here it is far and away the best looking, and I like the safety features. I don't get why people complain about them; after all, you don't HAVE to use them.
Bersa,LCP2,& TCP the ones I have,& the order of preference...Bersa being the best of the 3 for extended range shooting in my opinion. I've got no experience to speak on other models mentioned. Good video.
Got my LCP II for about $195 but with transfer fee it ended up being about $225. Still, I was very happy with that price, and it’s the gun I have with me at almost all times. After trying to carry my Shield and Glock 26 in Florida where you’re wearing shorts and t-shirts most of the year, I finally found the LCP II and now it’s so easy to slip the pocket holstered pistol into a pair of cargo shorts. Loaded up with Federal Hydrashocks and an extra mag, it’s a formidable weapon, but mainly, it’s the weapon I have with me.
I have and love the Bersa Thunder 380. It is a very comfortable gun to hold and shoot. My sister in law saw it and fired it and immediately had to have a Bersa Thunder. I can understand why it's one of your best selling CC pistol. Great video.
I picked up my Bersa thunder 380 a few days ago for $240. I love it. I prefer to carry 9mm, but I will definitely use it as a range gun or shooting in my back yard
I didnt know the LCP II had hogue grips. I carry the LCP Custom with Hogue grip and the 7rd extended mag. This is a great pocket carry that is very controllable. I will give the LCP II another look.
Lcp is too small, not easy to shoot, poor grip, no real sights! Good for 1st time gun owners. G42 is the best. Cc it for 6 years. Love it better after i upgraded the trigger($30) and night sights($80).
Finally shot my thunder plus after having it for a few months. I was running through the 15yard steel plates with ease. My only complaint at all was if I had a slightly insufficient grip at all it had a slight sting in the web of my hand. Really just a training issue, the gun ran flawless. Put about 45-60 rounds through it, so still getting a feel for it
I just purchased the Bersa yesterday as my first weapon and fell for it as soon as I handled it! I was looking for a CC weapon that wasn't too heavy and easy to handle. I've been getting used to it by handling the parts and dry firing it. I'll just be using the standard safety lock, change the grip and I've ordered a paddle holster already. Can't wait to get to the range! Thanks for letting me know I made a pretty good 1st purchase!
The Bersa Firestorm was my first weapon too. Took it to the range at least 10x already and it's a very accurate shooter. I could hit the bullseye several times from 7 yards away. Never had to change the grips.
I hung a 4" phone book at the range 5 yards away. fellow shooters guessed how far in a barnes hollow point would go in it , fired by my 11 ounce kel-tec. No one expected the huge exit hole. The range owner kept it to show customers a mouse gun's power.
I like the BERSA -- I have a single stack .380, a double stack .380, and the 9mm, .40 and .45 in the Ultra Compact Pro... the thing I HATE ABOUT BERSA -- extra mags! Ever had to buy one? They are ridiculously priced... UCP 9, 40 and 45 are close to $50 per mag... OUCH! For that reason alone, I am looking at other brands now. And, trying to find an after market producer in the USA -- GOOD LUCK! Sorry, Bersa!
I own a Kel Tec P38T and have carried it for almost 25 year’s. Carrying it in the New Mexico summers in shorts proved to me it is the only way to go!! I’m shooting a friends Taurus 738FS tomorrow at the range. The specifications say it’s almost identical. Reliability, size, weight, trigger pull are my priorities in that order. Price is low on the scale, but both are very cost efficient.
Our Bersa Thunder and Thunder CC .380 s have been more reliable than my more expensive firearms. Our family shoots a lot and we’ve been won over by their design and flawless operation.
First time utube put your channel on me. I watched some of your vlog. Then I subscribed because of the straight forward, no bunch of speeches in the beginning, good info, and I’m a revolver fan! Good luck in the future.
I like the bersa, but am a little surprised the walther is not on this list. I think they have much better grip, solid metal construction, and just a sturdier option.
I guess I’m old but the Bersa which I own is a good looking gun that shoots great. Plus it’s made of metal. The other guns may shoot good but they look like crap. No style. Better than nothing when you need one though.
I have the CC version of the Bersa Thunder 380 and so far it's been a very reliable and accurate handgun. My only complaint is the slide is a pain to take off and re-assemble for cleaning but it has fired 100% of all the different brands of ammunition I've put through it. It has a nice weight to it and the frame isn't too small for my hands.
Love my bersa... The look and feel of a quality gun... One of the best triggers on any gun out there. Shoots accurately... And fits my large hands perfectly.. My concealed carry choice
I have been thinking about purchasing a thunder. How easy is it to conceal? I keep my primary on my right hip. I am looking for a secondary that is a little smaller.
@@weslibby2108 There's smaller 380s out there (mostly with less capacity) but I'm 5'7" 160lbs and have no problems concealing iwb with a cant. Probably a little easier with the CC model, that's what I've got, though I really can't say how easy the base model shown in the video is.
If you want a cc gun that is easy to shoot, small, light, comfortable in the hand, REAL sights, and practical, glock 42 is the best choice. I cc it for 6 years. My fav cc gun.
@@troytruong8246 Standard Bersa Thunder has fully adjustable 3 dot sights, and the thunder plus holds 15+1, whereas the standard holds ,8+1. Both beat out the G42 on ammo capacity, and in accuracy due to the fixed barrels. Surprisingly, I've found the Bersa to be way more reliable than the G42. The G42 isn't bad by any means, but the Bersa beats it in every field save for weight. Personally, I prefer the extra weight. Makes it a soft shooter.
The Bersa (Firestorm or Thunder 380 7+1 or the Plus or Combat 15+1) made in Argentina is my #1. The only learning curve is your first couple of times removing & resetting the slide over a fixed barrel. And there're the CZ "Milsurp" from Classic Firearms for around $188 in good condition in 32 ACP. And Beretta model 81 in 32 ACP 12rd $199.00
Was extremely happy to see the Bersa Thunder 380. One of my personal favorites and probably my next Buy. However I was surprised that the Ruger LCP overtook The Bodyguard 380. But I guess every dog has its day. Good video, you got yourself a like and a subscriber
The Bodyguard 380 trigger is garbage. Even by pocket pistol standards, it’s just not an acceptable trigger. Double action revolvers have better triggers.
Excellent, no-nonsense video. Thank you sir!! My wife's CCW choice was the Ruger ... I could have sworn I received 2 magazines in the box .... maybe I bought the second and they sneaked it by me! :) ... or maybe it was a gift because I'm such a great guy? It sure looks like all of these are great choices!
Bersa Thunder 380 is my favorite carry, very reliable easy to strip down and clean never has it miss fired also accurate to 75 feet never James on casing ejection
The first generation Ruger LCP was decent for its size, but its trigger/action, sights, and lack of last-shot hold-open were missed opportunities. The LCP II corrected all those issues and made the grip better as well. In a true pocket-pistol, it's a winner.
If you want a cc gun that is easy to shoot, small, light, comfortable in the hand, REAL sights, and practical, glock 42 is the best choice. I cc it for 6 years. My fav cc gun.
I like the mini 911 simply because of the look it's just cool like a baby rock but the bersa plus which isn't here has twice the fire power nice job explaining the difference
A little trivia about the Bersa Thunder series. The company originally had a license contract with Walther to produce their pistols for police/military contracts in S. America. The license eventually expired and Walther chose not to renew it. Bersa still had all the tooling, so they just made some minor changes to avoid patent infringements and came up with the "PPK look-a-like". Mine is a first generation that has the pinned front sight instead of the newer dovetail. Very accurate and reliable. Comfortable to shoot.
Disculpa Tony, pero no es asi como comentas sobre la Bersa Thunder, estas equivocado, soy de Argentina y tengo todos los modelos de Bersa, y vivo cerca de la fabrica en Ramos Mejia, y Bersa jamas tuvo contrato alguno con Walter. saludos
Hey brother wow glad to see you getting some exposure. I actually was one of the first customers to come to your store when it first opened. You were very nice and helpful. Glad to see good people get noticed and doing well. Nice!!
My first 380 was a Beretta model 70 which was a excellent back up however I was wanting something with a bit more firepower however it was a excellent firearm, which my partner really liked it so I sold it to him when I got a new 380 ( at the time I didn't realize what it was really worth but he was my partner and he was watching my back so he got a really good deal). I replaced the model 70 with the model 84 as it has a double stack mag, and it is a bit bigger but it's well worth it. The model 84 has a 14 shot mag, same safety features as the model 92 and feels just like the 92 but lighter and not as large as well. It's my favorite all around carry except for anything serious, however with the larger mag plus carrying two extra clips giving me a enough firepower to get the job done or a chance to get to heavier firepower if I need to, because my first next response to teach the language of 12 gauguess and that a very serious statement that will finish most conversations quickly.
It's a pocket holster, for a scary time when you want your hand ON the gun. A mugger notices your hand position, just like a cop who yells "take your hand out of your pocket !" Other citizens think a hand in pocket is normal. Better than looking goofy by walking with your hand by your hip.
I Just Found Your Gun Channel Quite By Accident & How Refreshing To Hear Someone Intelligently Discuss Various Guns In A Specific Category Based On Personal Exposure & Experience. I've Watched Many Gun Channels & Tried To Watch Many More But There's So Many Bearded Goobers Who Seem To Think You Want To Look At Their Face While Rambling On & Often Going Off Topic. Half A Million Views & 3.6K Likes, Speaks For Itself. Thank You.
Not that we’re voting, but I’m a big fan of the 42. Very easy to use for the non gun enthusiast. Load bullets-aim-pull trigger. I also recently got the Walther pk 380. Very nice fairly inexpensive gun. Nice vid. I’m always interested in what the homies are going for, even if it’s not my choice.
I have the original Ruger LCP .380 ACP pistol. Very happy with it a very dependable easily concealable little pistol. Bought it just before the LCP II version came out had I waited a little while longer probably would have bought that instead given the small price difference but no regrets I'm satisfied with my LCP; no extra controls to fiddle with just pull it out, pull the trigger it operates exactly like a double-action revolver.
TCP with 7 rounds (one in the chamber) weighs 15 ounces, is very very concealable, and shoots pretty darn good too. Well, at least mine has for the past six years. I did buy a couple of extra 10 round mags that I keep in the car and at home, but 7 rounds should get you out of almost any kind of crazy situation you hopefully never have to encounter.
I have the bersa thunder 380 for my edc. Accurate, reliable, and comfortably conceals easily. Paired with underwood extreme defender ammunition it's a perfect defense combination.
Lcp is too small, not easy to shoot, poor grip, no real sights! Good for 1st time gun owners. G42 is the best. Cc it for 6 years. Love it better after i upgraded the trigger($30) and night sights($80).
@@troytruong8246 That's just your opinion Most people who claim The LCP is too small Are over weight people The ones who lay around and eat Peanut butter and jelly sandwiches and drink beer And watch TV Then decide to go outside and shoot the empty beer cans of Miss. The LCP is a great little gun.
@@keithclark486 lcp II is a great little gun for people with small hands. Guns are like clothes. Not 1 size fits all. I agree with u. But if u want a micro compact .380, g42 is better. People buy lcp because it is cheaper than g42. That does not mean it is better than g42. I own both. I can conclude g42 is better. This is a fact. Not an opinion.
@@troytruong8246 Facts are based off opinions Everybody has their own opinion That dosent mean the majority is always right I have fairly large hands and have no problem with the LCP.
I have the p238 and 2 tcp’s...love all three, but will say that the slide is easier (way easier) to rack on the Sig. But all of them shoot great and are extremely reliable!
Enjoying my morning coffee and going through some informative videos. This video is awesome. Cannot thank you enough for putting it together, and for all of your information. I like the informational side of it and that you discussed all the facts with each. Very helpful comparison!
Bersa is a good price external hammer 4" barrel I had one of the older models but I sure like Sig P238 and the Kimber micro are my top choices they can handle that + P Buffalo Bore in small doses without any problem nice video! Nice to see people finally see the real potential in the 380 with modern ammo!
I own the bersa and the 911 but hands down i love the 911 fantastic sights out of the box and i would even take it over the sig.bersa for what it is loved the gun for what is but still my fav is the 911
I have the 911. I had to send it to Springfield for fixing though. Out of the box it was very unreliable, after they sent it back, no issues, except steel, it doesn’t like steel.
When you said, "The two there will be comments on..." I expected you to say the Kel-Tec P3AT as one of them. Being from AZ, Ruger has a very large presence here so I would say we see more of the LCP here, but each has it's own pros and cons. Just make sure you try before you buy, practice after you purchase and learn to live with your gun, not just own it.
I have both the Bersa and LCPII both excellent little handguns and surprisingly accurate for what they are. Only critic I have is the Bersa I have at least not a great finish for when it was the only pew pew I had at the time as a CCW it would rust up a bit from sweat if I didn't stay on top of it. Dont really cary it much more now I use my Ruger for a pocket gun grate for those sudden trips to the store and what not and you just want ta stick something In your pocket.
I tested both the LCP ll and a Sig P365. The LCP is an easier shoot as a .380. The Sig is more of a handful because it is a 9mm. Both are easily concealable pocket carries. The Sig has the advantage of a higher capacity magazine and more stopping power, but more expensive. It may be more difficult for some to be accurate due to muzzle jump and higher felt recoil. I liked them both for pocket carry...but Hickok45 now usually carries the Sig so that may be the deciding factor... Or, I might need Both!
Really enjoyed this video. I had a TCP for a brief while before I upgraded to an LCP 2 and a G42. My TCP literally fell apart on my first range visit. I was super disappointed. The LCP 2 is great though! Thanks for such a good video. Keep em coming.
I think it's out of production but nothing I have ever used is as ergonomic or as much loved in my house as the Sig 232. A bit bigger than many of the guns in your test and a bit expensive .. Burt WOW.. Love it.
My first concealed carry was a M&P Smith and Western 40 Shield I like it because it's quite Slim it's easy to conceal it fits my hand pretty good and so far I haven't had any problems but then again I Oriole it and maintain it pretty good and I think that's the main thing and with anything that's mechanical it's always going to have a problem at some point in time just like a car
I want a little 380. I have fired the Sig and Spingfield at demos and am torn between them. They are very similar and fun to shoot. It will probably come down to price. I have a 1911 and like the mini 1911 design of these pistols.
Any of those 380’s you must run a personal defense ammo if that’s what your using this for. At the range go ahead and run standard 380 ammo through it. But for ccw you absolutely should shoot some hollow point ammo through it at the range and know what to expect.
The one big thing you failed to mention was the S&W M&P Bodyguard has a second strike capability like a revolver the hammer strikes with each trigger pull
@Officer Tenpenny There will be a lot of opinions on that but I choose to use ball ammo in the 380. I'm not saying that is the best idea but it's best to practice with the ammo you are going to use and defensive 380 ammo is ridiculously expensive. Even the ball ammo is higher than 9mm. Ball ammo should never present a feeding issue due to the round shape. I am no expert nor do I claim to be. Hopefully I never need to use it. The LCP 2 trigger is way better than the LCP but not so light that isnt too easily pulled. Not a fan of light triggers in a ccw.
AXMRDR, look into Precision One .380 XTP loads, they performed the best in an independent test and are a lot cheaper than most boutique ammo. They run perfectly in my LCP II
I've got the Bersa Thunder CC and it's a great little handgun. 9 shots in a package smaller yet more comfortable than a J-frame? Yes, please. My only complaints about it is that the company sent it to me in an incredibly dirty state, almost as if it was test fired a few hundred times and tossed in the box for me. The other complaint is that .380 is stupid expensive, but that's neither here or there. I'd like to snag one of their military Thunder models before they stop selling them.
Nice Colt you have there. I'm old and retired, too and have been looking for a German made Walther PP but couldn't find one. I recently found a mint Walther Interarms PPK/S made sometime in 1984 in unfired condition and bought it.
I had to chuckle when I saw the opening pic. I've owned four of these. Here's my take in the order I owned them. First, I did consider the S&W Bodyguard but passed because I hated the trigger. My first of these was the Bersa. But in the end I couldn't shoot it worth a lick. Don't know why but that's what it was. The second was the Taurus which, again, I found to have a a horrible trigger. The third was the Ruger LCP II which had a really, really great trigger. But in the end I wound up with the Springfield 911 and have carried it every day for over a year now. Here in Florida I think .380 is a fine cartridge and with its 1911-type single action trigger I'm confident I can hit what I need to hit even under stress. Sig may have popularized what Colt began, but I think Springfield has made the definitive single action .380 in price and quality. But that's just my opinion.
@@jayantvohra1825 I carry the 911 and yes it has a safety. All 1911 platforms have a safety. It's solid an audible click and feel completely comfortable with it in my pocket and One in the Chamber.
Just bought a 911 .380 for now. It'd be a good one for me to practice making wood grips for. I've got some nice bits of mahogany, cherry, and walnut that would make the piece look pretty old-school.
Lots of bersa fans here, im glad its what i bought eventually today with minimal research prior to purchase. The seller talked me into it, glad it proved him correct based on my research after the fact, which is what you shouldnt do. Glad it all worked out.
The. Bersa Thunder concealed carry model is the best of all five!! It has a little heft to it but just right, and it has the least recoil of them all!! Also it’s magazines hold 8+1!! Also it has a fixed barrel for more accuracy, you can load the chamber with one round then insert the magazine with 8 rounds which gives you 9 rounds. Since you have one in the chamber then you can put it on safety which is a decocker, then take the safety off and you have a safe to carry ready to fire double action pull. Then each consecutive 8 rounds are single action with a really nice 3.5 lb. trigger pull!!
Yeah, I'm Not Sure That Was The Concealed Carry Model. It Looks More Like The Regular .380. Thank You.
I bought a Bersa Thunder Plus 380 (15+1 double stack magazine) for my wife years ago and she loves it. My only regret is not getting a second one for myself when the get'n was good and easy.
Same here I passed it up when I had a chance and I’ve been kicking myself in the ass since lol
@@Professional_street_hustler same.
Private seller was selling a Nickel version for like $180 w/ free shipping.
Still makes me lose sleep.
Then again it was years ago we will NEVER see those prices again
Thanks for the good review on single stack 380 handguns. That said, other 380s now include the Ruger LCP Max and the Ruger Security 380.
I love my Bersa it is perfect for conceal carry in the Summer in South Carolina. and similar climates
I have a Bersa Plus 15 + 1. Great gun. Not mentioned in this video about any Bersa, it has adjustable rear sights, round chamber indicator, barrel key trigger lock if you have children, easy to disassemble, fixed barrel (which makes it very accurate). And the double single action is great. One can tell where the reset is on the trigger so on the single action shots, you can muscle memory know when to pull the second trigger shots. My pocket gun is a Remington RM380, great reliable gun with the smoothest trigger pull, feels like it is on a roller bearing. And I compared this trigger pull to every pocket CC gun, and the Remington RM 380 is by far the smoothest. And for me I don't subconsciously think about the trigger and focus on sight picture. But I can't say enough about the Bersa. And again, adjusting the rear sight is a BIG option. This allows you to fine tune how the gun fits your hand and know your sight picture is already adjusted for your personal grip. And I am glad Marksman TV is pushing this for women.At shows I point out to women the gun, but see their husbands or boyfriends scoff at this gun based on them wanted to push name brand. So any husbands, boyfriends or women reading this, you really need to open your mind up to this fantastic little gun. It is a pleasure to shoot, with little recoil (which helps keeps it from jamming or stove piping), safe, reliable, adjustable sights, safety de-cocker, barrel key lock, slide lock, round indicator in the chamber, double/single action, smooth trigger, light trigger pull, easy to pull slide, great grips, many color choices, low printing under the cloths (which I use a band elastic holster to carry all day) , light overall weight, easy to take apart and clean, fixed barrel that makes it very accurate, made by a company that has been around since 1958, and is a really great James Bond looking gun. I have used it in two gun competition out to 25 yards. I use synthetic wheel bearing grease and all my guns show no wear and are as tight as when I bought them.
I just love this man’s videos.
Straight forward, right to the point. Speaks from knowledge and experience of a certified dealer. No fluff, no weird ads, non-opinionated.
Keep up the good work🤝
trung hoang agreed
And.... he gives the gosh darn price!
Yeah, me too. I can hear his every word.
Lots of people making mistakes buying the Ruger LCP because it's the smallest and cutest, but everyone hates the LCP because of its nasty recoil! LCP II isn't much better. But everyone loves the Bersa Thunder 380! It's a bit too big for a pocket but it's much more comfortable to shoot!
LCP is a great carry gun. I have the first generation model, which is actually a bit smaller than the current offering. Not the best at the range, but that's not what it was built for. Can be pocket carried, feeds reliably, pretty decent accuracy, well made, low cost. I have zero complaints about this gun.
I had the option recently to buy any of the LCP models and went with the original for that exact reason. I want the concealability
I bought one a few days ago, for both the size and the price. It has become my EDC gun. Much easier to conceal carry than my .38 snubbie (which I sold for more than I paid for my LCP). But since it is not a good recreational shooting gun, I am seriously considering getting a Bersa Thunder for that (and home defense). Of the five Marksman discussed here it is far and away the best looking, and I like the safety features. I don't get why people complain about them; after all, you don't HAVE to use them.
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A Hogue grip with the 7 rd mag totally transforms the Ruger LCP 380 into a definite daily cc.
Bersa,LCP2,& TCP the ones I have,& the order of preference...Bersa being the best of the 3 for extended range shooting in my opinion. I've got no experience to speak on other models mentioned. Good video.
Got my LCP II for about $195 but with transfer fee it ended up being about $225. Still, I was very happy with that price, and it’s the gun I have with me at almost all times. After trying to carry my Shield and Glock 26 in Florida where you’re wearing shorts and t-shirts most of the year, I finally found the LCP II and now it’s so easy to slip the pocket holstered pistol into a pair of cargo shorts. Loaded up with Federal Hydrashocks and an extra mag, it’s a formidable weapon, but mainly, it’s the weapon I have with me.
I have and love the Bersa Thunder 380. It is a very comfortable gun to hold and shoot. My sister in law saw it and fired it and immediately had to have a Bersa Thunder. I can understand why it's one of your best selling CC pistol. Great video.
I picked up my Bersa thunder 380 a few days ago for $240. I love it. I prefer to carry 9mm, but I will definitely use it as a range gun or shooting in my back yard
$240?!
From who? They are like at $350 to $400 now
@@very7962If you didn’t notice his comment was a couple years before yours lol
Lcp2 with hogue grips. Carried the original lcp for years n just upgraded! Love it!
I didnt know the LCP II had hogue grips. I carry the LCP Custom with Hogue grip and the 7rd extended mag. This is a great pocket carry that is very controllable. I will give the LCP II another look.
Love my Ruger lcp. Comforting to have in a pocket with the world as it is!
I agree about the Ruger LCP2. Great gun, easily concealable, and easy to shoot. Working the slide is also easy on the hands.
As a former gunstore salesman, the LCP and LCPII are the guns most likely to bite me. I have an aversion to holding one.
I've had 2: LCP, L P2.
I'm female...had a hell of a time with the slide.
Lcp is too small, not easy to shoot, poor grip, no real sights! Good for 1st time gun owners. G42 is the best. Cc it for 6 years. Love it better after i upgraded the trigger($30) and night sights($80).
@@troytruong8246 OK, OK, OK... I see you and yo' knowledge friend.
Really wish my LCP would have been reliable. I’ve heard many good reviews but mine was the most troublesome pistol I’ve had in years.
The bersa thunder is a great gun, very accurate for a. 380 and the thunder plus is a 15+1 round capacity
I have the Bersa Thunder Plus. Very accurate. Easy to shoot. Runs like a fine tuned sewing machine. Very reliable. Will never sell it.
Finally shot my thunder plus after having it for a few months. I was running through the 15yard steel plates with ease. My only complaint at all was if I had a slightly insufficient grip at all it had a slight sting in the web of my hand. Really just a training issue, the gun ran flawless. Put about 45-60 rounds through it, so still getting a feel for it
Love that Bersa! Overall, that was a great review of some nice .380 pistols options. Thanks for another great video. You're top-notch.
I just purchased the Bersa yesterday as my first weapon and fell for it as soon as I handled it! I was looking for a CC weapon that wasn't too heavy and easy to handle. I've been getting used to it by handling the parts and dry firing it. I'll just be using the standard safety lock, change the grip and I've ordered a paddle holster already. Can't wait to get to the range! Thanks for letting me know I made a pretty good 1st purchase!
The Bersa Firestorm was my first weapon too. Took it to the range at least 10x already and it's a very accurate shooter. I could hit the bullseye several times from 7 yards away. Never had to change the grips.
i have the bersa, lcp II, and the taurus. i love pocket pistols. Yes go to the range and get proficient with it COCO. Peace
I got my lady one (I paid but it's in her name) can't wait to take her to the range.
I have the Bersa. A great gun for protection and it shoots very well. I've been looking for the PLUS version and haven't found it locally.
Am I the only one that felt totally emasculated by his Bersa rant? I'd rather just have an MP5 and be done with all this nonsense.
Taurus TCP is my choice! Got it new three years ago with 1 extra clip for $240, invested in a pocket holster. Nice fit!
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I hung a 4" phone book at the range 5 yards away. fellow shooters guessed how far in a barnes hollow point would go in it , fired by my 11 ounce kel-tec. No one expected the huge exit hole. The range owner kept it to show customers a mouse gun's power.
S&W M&P Shield 380 EZ gets my vote. Full grip feeling, 8+1 capacity and easy to operate.
The Bersa looks sweet...
I second the comments about the Bersa. I'm happy with mine.
I like the BERSA -- I have a single stack .380, a double stack .380, and the 9mm, .40 and .45 in the Ultra Compact Pro... the thing I HATE ABOUT BERSA -- extra mags! Ever had to buy one? They are ridiculously priced... UCP 9, 40 and 45 are close to $50 per mag... OUCH! For that reason alone, I am looking at other brands now. And, trying to find an after market producer in the USA -- GOOD LUCK! Sorry, Bersa!
I own a Kel Tec P38T and have carried it for almost 25 year’s. Carrying it in the New Mexico summers in shorts proved to me it is the only way to go!! I’m shooting a friends Taurus 738FS tomorrow at the range. The specifications say it’s almost identical. Reliability, size, weight, trigger pull are my priorities in that order. Price is low on the scale, but both are very cost efficient.
Our Bersa Thunder and Thunder CC .380 s have been more reliable than my more expensive firearms. Our family shoots a lot and we’ve been won over by their design and flawless operation.
I have and love the RUGER LCP first generation
Bought my LCP2 when if first came out and never had any issues. Great little pistol.
Lcp is too small, not easy to shoot, no real sights. G42 is better. Little pricey but best all rounder.
@BMO Nope no problems at all.
First time utube put your channel on me. I watched some of your vlog. Then I subscribed because of the straight forward, no bunch of speeches in the beginning, good info, and I’m a revolver fan! Good luck in the future.
Bersa Thunder is outstanding! It has a very durable feel.
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Carried the original lcp for years and then bought the 2 when they first come out. Reliable, easy to conceal and the price is right.
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I like the bersa, but am a little surprised the walther is not on this list. I think they have much better grip, solid metal construction, and just a sturdier option.
I guess I’m old but the Bersa which I own is a good looking gun that shoots great. Plus it’s made of metal. The other guns may shoot good but they look like crap. No style.
Better than nothing when you need one though.
I have the CC version of the Bersa Thunder 380 and so far it's been a very reliable and accurate handgun. My only complaint is the slide is a pain to take off and re-assemble for cleaning but it has fired 100% of all the different brands of ammunition I've put through it. It has a nice weight to it and the frame isn't too small for my hands.
Love my bersa... The look and feel of a quality gun... One of the best triggers on any gun out there. Shoots accurately... And fits my large hands perfectly.. My concealed carry choice
I have been thinking about purchasing a thunder. How easy is it to conceal? I keep my primary on my right hip. I am looking for a secondary that is a little smaller.
Agree completely
@@weslibby2108 There's smaller 380s out there (mostly with less capacity) but I'm 5'7" 160lbs and have no problems concealing iwb with a cant. Probably a little easier with the CC model, that's what I've got, though I really can't say how easy the base model shown in the video is.
If you want a cc gun that is easy to shoot, small, light, comfortable in the hand, REAL sights, and practical, glock 42 is the best choice. I cc it for 6 years. My fav cc gun.
@@troytruong8246 Standard Bersa Thunder has fully adjustable 3 dot sights, and the thunder plus holds 15+1, whereas the standard holds ,8+1. Both beat out the G42 on ammo capacity, and in accuracy due to the fixed barrels. Surprisingly, I've found the Bersa to be way more reliable than the G42. The G42 isn't bad by any means, but the Bersa beats it in every field save for weight. Personally, I prefer the extra weight. Makes it a soft shooter.
Bersa thunder cc .380 are super nice too. 8+1 lighter too. Cheaper than most and lifetime warranty. And it feeds everything
The Bersa (Firestorm or Thunder 380 7+1 or the Plus or Combat 15+1) made in Argentina is my #1. The only learning curve is your first couple of times removing & resetting the slide over a fixed barrel. And there're the CZ "Milsurp" from Classic Firearms for around $188 in good condition in 32 ACP. And Beretta model 81 in 32 ACP 12rd $199.00
Was extremely happy to see the Bersa Thunder 380. One of my personal favorites and probably my next Buy. However I was surprised that the Ruger LCP overtook The Bodyguard 380. But I guess every dog has its day. Good video, you got yourself a like and a subscriber
Probably due to the improvements in the LCP II, especially the trigger.
The Bodyguard 380 trigger is garbage.
Even by pocket pistol standards, it’s just not an acceptable trigger.
Double action revolvers have better triggers.
Excellent, no-nonsense video. Thank you sir!! My wife's CCW choice was the Ruger ... I could have sworn I received 2 magazines in the box .... maybe I bought the second and they sneaked it by me! :) ... or maybe it was a gift because I'm such a great guy? It sure looks like all of these are great choices!
Bersa Thunder 380 is my favorite carry, very reliable easy to strip down and clean never has it miss fired also accurate to 75 feet never James on casing ejection
The first generation Ruger LCP was decent for its size, but its trigger/action, sights, and lack of last-shot hold-open were missed opportunities. The LCP II corrected all those issues and made the grip better as well. In a true pocket-pistol, it's a winner.
I have an LCP Custom, a Bersa Thunder and a Glock 42. The Glock is my favorite. It is a great shooter.
Robert Ratskywatsky i have 2 of them and never had a jam. Maybe you have a bad one
@Robert Ratskywatsky Call GLOCK! THEY ARE KNOWN FOR GREAT RELIABILITY.
If you want a cc gun that is easy to shoot, small, light, comfortable in the hand, REAL sights, and practical, glock 42 is the best choice. I cc it for 6 years. My fav cc gun.
Micro 380 is picky with certain brand of ammo. Dont use cheap brand of ammo.
You didn’t know how good it felt to see that lcp 2 in first when you just buy it a day ago like I did
I have a first gen LCP...lots of rounds shot thru it.. Works great
I like the mini 911 simply because of the look it's just cool like a baby rock but the bersa plus which isn't here has twice the fire power nice job explaining the difference
A little trivia about the Bersa Thunder series. The company originally had a license contract with Walther to produce their pistols for police/military contracts in S. America. The license eventually expired and Walther chose not to renew it. Bersa still had all the tooling, so they just made some minor changes to avoid patent infringements and came up with the "PPK look-a-like".
Mine is a first generation that has the pinned front sight instead of the newer dovetail. Very accurate and reliable. Comfortable to shoot.
Disculpa Tony, pero no es asi como comentas sobre la Bersa Thunder, estas equivocado, soy de Argentina y tengo todos los modelos de Bersa, y vivo cerca de la fabrica en Ramos Mejia, y Bersa jamas tuvo contrato alguno con Walter. saludos
That would be S&W Walther PPK/s. Not Bersa.
Bersa is the best _ thunder plus 15 clip _ also totally awesome
Hey brother wow glad to see you getting some exposure. I actually was one of the first customers to come to your store when it first opened. You were very nice and helpful. Glad to see good people get noticed and doing well. Nice!!
I have the taurus spectrum 380 and the s&w mp380 love them both
Bersa Thunder 380cc, the little great pistol, the best !
My first 380 was a Beretta model 70 which was a excellent back up however I was wanting something with a bit more firepower however it was a excellent firearm, which my partner really liked it so I sold it to him when I got a new 380 ( at the time I didn't realize what it was really worth but he was my partner and he was watching my back so he got a really good deal). I replaced the model 70 with the model 84 as it has a double stack mag, and it is a bit bigger but it's well worth it. The model 84 has a 14 shot mag, same safety features as the model 92 and feels just like the 92 but lighter and not as large as well. It's my favorite all around carry except for anything serious, however with the larger mag plus carrying two extra clips giving me a enough firepower to get the job done or a chance to get to heavier firepower if I need to, because my first next response to teach the language of 12 gauguess and that a very serious statement that will finish most conversations quickly.
I own an LCP. It's really nice to keep in a small hip holster.
It's a pocket holster, for a scary time when you want your hand ON the gun. A mugger notices your hand position, just like a cop who yells "take your hand out of your pocket !" Other citizens think a hand in pocket is normal. Better than looking goofy by walking with your hand by your hip.
Love bersa thunder 380
plus
Is it small enough for ankle carry?
@@mr.raymond2389 well, that depends on how big your ankle is
I Just Found Your Gun Channel Quite By Accident & How Refreshing To Hear Someone Intelligently Discuss Various Guns In A Specific Category Based On Personal Exposure & Experience. I've Watched Many Gun Channels & Tried To Watch Many More But There's So Many Bearded Goobers Who Seem To Think You Want To Look At Their Face While Rambling On & Often Going Off Topic. Half A Million Views & 3.6K Likes, Speaks For Itself. Thank You.
Not that we’re voting, but I’m a big fan of the 42. Very easy to use for the non gun enthusiast. Load bullets-aim-pull trigger. I also recently got the Walther pk 380. Very nice fairly inexpensive gun.
Nice vid. I’m always interested in what the homies are going for, even if it’s not my choice.
I have the original Ruger LCP .380 ACP pistol. Very happy with it a very dependable easily concealable little pistol. Bought it just before the LCP II version came out had I waited a little while longer probably would have bought that instead given the small price difference but no regrets I'm satisfied with my LCP; no extra controls to fiddle with just pull it out, pull the trigger it operates exactly like a double-action revolver.
TCP with 7 rounds (one in the chamber) weighs 15 ounces, is very very concealable, and shoots pretty darn good too. Well, at least mine has for the past six years. I did buy a couple of extra 10 round mags that I keep in the car and at home, but 7 rounds should get you out of almost any kind of crazy situation you hopefully never have to encounter.
I have the bersa thunder 380 for my edc. Accurate, reliable, and comfortably conceals easily. Paired with underwood extreme defender ammunition it's a perfect defense combination.
Great vid. Zero fluff. Quick feature overview and what’s popular. I wish your store was near me.
The Ruger LCP II is a great little gun. I carry it when i have gym shorts on. I always take it to the range as my second gun, very fun to shoot!!!
Lcp is too small, not easy to shoot, poor grip, no real sights! Good for 1st time gun owners. G42 is the best. Cc it for 6 years. Love it better after i upgraded the trigger($30) and night sights($80).
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That's just your opinion
Most people who claim
The LCP is too small
Are over weight people
The ones who lay around and eat
Peanut butter and jelly sandwiches and drink beer And watch TV
Then decide to go outside and shoot the empty beer cans of Miss. The LCP is a great little gun.
@@keithclark486 lcp II is a great little gun for people with small hands. Guns are like clothes. Not 1 size fits all. I agree with u. But if u want a micro compact .380, g42 is better. People buy lcp because it is cheaper than g42. That does not mean it is better than g42. I own both. I can conclude g42 is better. This is a fact. Not an opinion.
@@keithclark486 read my 1st comment again. All the advantages of g42 are facts. Not my opinion.
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Facts are based off opinions
Everybody has their own opinion That dosent mean the majority is always right
I have fairly large hands and have no problem with the LCP.
Having 3 of the 5, my small .380 needs are well met
I have the p238 and 2 tcp’s...love all three, but will say that the slide is easier (way easier) to rack on the Sig. But all of them shoot great and are extremely reliable!
G42. A better choice. U should test it out.
The Glock 42 is a large .380.
Enjoying my morning coffee and going through some informative videos. This video is awesome. Cannot thank you enough for putting it together, and for all of your information. I like the informational side of it and that you discussed all the facts with each. Very helpful comparison!
Bersa is a good price external hammer 4" barrel I had one of the older models but I sure like Sig P238 and the Kimber micro are my top choices they can handle that + P Buffalo Bore in small doses without any problem nice video! Nice to see people finally see the real potential in the 380 with modern ammo!
The 911 can handle +p also, but would recommend in 9mm not 380
I own the bersa and the 911 but hands down i love the 911 fantastic sights out of the box and i would even take it over the sig.bersa for what it is loved the gun for what is but still my fav is the 911
I have the 911. I had to send it to Springfield for fixing though. Out of the box it was very unreliable, after they sent it back, no issues, except steel, it doesn’t like steel.
bursa thunder 15+1 and ruger lc380 great guns
I highly recommend SW bodyguard easy to conceal, reliable, hammer fired with external safety. Pocket carry all day everyday.
When you said, "The two there will be comments on..." I expected you to say the Kel-Tec P3AT as one of them. Being from AZ, Ruger has a very large presence here so I would say we see more of the LCP here, but each has it's own pros and cons. Just make sure you try before you buy, practice after you purchase and learn to live with your gun, not just own it.
Nice overviews. I like my little M&P Bodyguard 380.
Number 5 is the coolest one and that's the only one I've seen so far LOL
I have both the Bersa and LCPII both excellent little handguns and surprisingly accurate for what they are. Only critic I have is the Bersa I have at least not a great finish for when it was the only pew pew I had at the time as a CCW it would rust up a bit from sweat if I didn't stay on top of it.
Dont really cary it much more now I use my Ruger for a pocket gun grate for those sudden trips to the store and what not and you just want ta stick something In your pocket.
The Beretta 84 I purchased in ‘77 is still running strong.One of the best ever.
Yeah I've had my eye out for one of those, or a Browning BDA...good luck though ha!
Bersa rules. Try one. Look for the version without the pinky rest. It has one less round and not as easy to pocket conceal.
I tested both the LCP ll and a Sig P365. The LCP is an easier shoot as a .380.
The Sig is more of a handful because it is a 9mm. Both are easily concealable pocket carries.
The Sig has the advantage of a higher capacity magazine and more stopping power, but more expensive.
It may be more difficult for some to be accurate due to muzzle jump and higher felt recoil.
I liked them both for pocket carry...but Hickok45 now usually carries the Sig so that may be the deciding factor...
Or, I might need Both!
Thx for sharing. Good to know there's other handguns in the same market for 380 caliber.
Yes. Smith and Wesson has EZ 380 and the Glock 42.
All are fine pistols, however I'll hang on to my Colt Mustang for now. Ultra light and extremely compact.
Yep, crisp trigger, light recoil, slide easy to rack. Better looking than all the rest of .380s.
Really enjoyed this video. I had a TCP for a brief while before I upgraded to an LCP 2 and a G42.
My TCP literally fell apart on my first range visit. I was super disappointed. The LCP 2 is great though! Thanks for such a good video. Keep em coming.
Liar about tcp
I think it's out of production but nothing I have ever used is as ergonomic or as much loved in my house as the Sig 232. A bit bigger than many of the guns in your test and a bit expensive .. Burt WOW.. Love it.
I Carry is a Smith and Wesson 2.0 sheld 9 mm , it's my backup. My main gun is a Smith and Wesson compact 9 mm 2.0 . Carry what you shoot well .
Thank you! Learning so much from you. Now I have to make a decision which one to get.
My first concealed carry was a M&P Smith and Western 40 Shield I like it because it's quite Slim it's easy to conceal it fits my hand pretty good and so far I haven't had any problems but then again I Oriole it and maintain it pretty good and I think that's the main thing and with anything that's mechanical it's always going to have a problem at some point in time just like a car
I carry my bodyguard daily. It is the perfect size for me. Summer time and shorts I have a seecamp 25acp
Straight to the point exposée! Informative ,concise, and assuring.
The Sig Sauer P238 is a great little 380 to pocket carry IMO.
Doesnt that hammer being exposed concern you about snagging
I want a little 380. I have fired the Sig and Spingfield at demos and am torn between them. They are very similar and fun to shoot. It will probably come down to price. I have a 1911 and like the mini 1911 design of these pistols.
Yeah, if you got like $650
I love mine, there is no snagging, lol....and I have many different styles of holsters.
How he can not put the sig p238 in this class instead of that cheap Taurus i do not understand.
Any of those 380’s you must run a personal defense ammo if that’s what your using this for. At the range go ahead and run standard 380 ammo through it. But for ccw you absolutely should shoot some hollow point ammo through it at the range and know what to expect.
New 380 owner here, what's the reason? Does it make it more reliable or deadly?
@@none4632 Deadly.
The one big thing you failed to mention was the S&W M&P Bodyguard has a second strike capability like a revolver the hammer strikes with each trigger pull
Bersa great little gun
Love my Firestorm
hr 777... The Thunder 380 $255 Yes Nice for the Money... 🤔
Paladine Right! Anything Is Better Than Nothing
@@irishrose7053 me 2
Over $400 in CA
Bersa 380CC, 8+1 👍
Plus, 15+1, even better.
Blond Bowler 💯 agreed it’s the best
Good to know, how things are moving! Thanks
Great video, as always. Thanks for sharing your insights.
I've had the Ruger LCP but I carry the Smith & Wesson Bodyguard because I like the safety
@KrimeNeverStops the police in Spain and other European countries use .380 its definitely strong enough to stop a person or dog
Get the LCP 2 that is shown here, not the LCP. Your welcome. :-)
@Officer Tenpenny There will be a lot of opinions on that but I choose to use ball ammo in the 380. I'm not saying that is the best idea but it's best to practice with the ammo you are going to use and defensive 380 ammo is ridiculously expensive. Even the ball ammo is higher than 9mm. Ball ammo should never present a feeding issue due to the round shape. I am no expert nor do I claim to be. Hopefully I never need to use it.
The LCP 2 trigger is way better than the LCP but not so light that isnt too easily pulled. Not a fan of light triggers in a ccw.
@Officer Tenpenny In my LCP2, I use the SigSaur Elite Performance V-crown jacketed hollow point for my defensive round.
AXMRDR, look into Precision One .380 XTP loads, they performed the best in an independent test and are a lot cheaper than most boutique ammo. They run perfectly in my LCP II
I love my Springfield 911. Even bought one in 9mm
I've got the Bersa Thunder CC and it's a great little handgun. 9 shots in a package smaller yet more comfortable than a J-frame? Yes, please. My only complaints about it is that the company sent it to me in an incredibly dirty state, almost as if it was test fired a few hundred times and tossed in the box for me. The other complaint is that .380 is stupid expensive, but that's neither here or there. I'd like to snag one of their military Thunder models before they stop selling them.
Buy your ammo online... 380 is only $3 a box more than 9mm...380 ammo price has dropped in the last couple years
Love my Bersa Thunder 380cc
LCP 10th anniversary edition my mother gave me for Christmas several years ago, I love
I had one of those 380 bodyguards. The triggers suck! It's a long hard pull
I use a Colt Pocket Lite, single-action .380. I'm old, it's old, we still work flawlessly :)
Nice Colt you have there. I'm old and retired, too and have been looking for a German made Walther PP but couldn't find one.
I recently found a mint Walther Interarms PPK/S made sometime in 1984 in unfired condition and bought it.
I have the tarsus TCP, ive loved it so far. But I was wondering if there exists and after market part like modified triggers or anything of the such
As a man I carry that bersa over my bodyguard and lcp strictly due to accuracy thing is a bigger but accuracy is everything
I had to chuckle when I saw the opening pic. I've owned four of these. Here's my take in the order I owned them. First, I did consider the S&W Bodyguard but passed because I hated the trigger. My first of these was the Bersa. But in the end I couldn't shoot it worth a lick. Don't know why but that's what it was. The second was the Taurus which, again, I found to have a a horrible trigger. The third was the Ruger LCP II which had a really, really great trigger. But in the end I wound up with the Springfield 911 and have carried it every day for over a year now. Here in Florida I think .380 is a fine cartridge and with its 1911-type single action trigger I'm confident I can hit what I need to hit even under stress. Sig may have popularized what Colt began, but I think Springfield has made the definitive single action .380 in price and quality. But that's just my opinion.
Jack Waddell does these guns have manual safety
@@jayantvohra1825 The TCP has no safety. The LCP ll has a trigger safety that I know of.
@@jayantvohra1825 I carry the 911 and yes it has a safety. All 1911 platforms have a safety. It's solid an audible click and feel completely comfortable with it in my pocket and One in the Chamber.
Just bought a 911 .380 for now. It'd be a good one for me to practice making wood grips for. I've got some nice bits of mahogany, cherry, and walnut that would make the piece look pretty old-school.