@@cornflakebutsilly e2 buff atk only when enemies are broken(useless for blade, useless for literally every character except firefly), e4 beak effect boost for herself which doesn't benefit the team at all, only e6 is contributing a bit by extending ult uptime and doing more dmg with break
@cheesycake455 thats all robin does? What about action advance, crit dmg, dmg, res pen e1? The point is that ruan meis eidolons do nothing for blade or il, so there is literally no reason to use her e6 with them
@@zzzy1934 E6 RM does E0 Robin amounts of damage, her E4 and E6 are no joke to her personal damage. At 2:25 RM did almost 300k damage(yes that's more damage than Blade himself in that turn).
Everyone says how unfair this comparison is since DHIL and Blade are both crit carries, but no one talks about how Blade scales more with HP than ATK, so Robin should be even worse than RM on paper with him.
I don't know if you know what DPR is, but it doesn't matter what Blade is, you're giving DPR to the team and better setups to Bronya for a silly comparison. Blade is of no use to Ruan, even to anyone who knows a little about the game. And Dang well the most "why do you want to break up??? if you can make setups with Ruan" But no one talks about the DOTcheron teams where Ruan is indisputably better than Robin. Or the Firefly or Bothin teams Let's create misinformation with Ruan Caballero KEKW
@@toxicplayer5883 Actualy, Robin is better with Acheron in her his team even with Acheron at e0, and in DoT Acheron, are you going to play without any sustain?
@@ТигранСафарян-о6б Dotcheron is never played with sustein because you want breakup, no ironically the only Kafka team that achieved cyclo 0 in this MOC is Dotcheron
“Omggg Ruan Mei’s eidolons don’t do anything what’s the point of this???” Oh, so if Robin beats Ruan Mei if both are at E0 or E6 then doesn’t that mean she’s just… better…?
Guys, all three of the Harmony Trinity, Robin, Ruan Mei, and Sparkle are extremely strong characters that can really improve your account for the better. But of course with limited Jades, new releases and sudden reruns getting all of them may be difficult, so sometimes you have to choose and that will depend on the state of your account and the future you want to have for your account. Why most people specifically say Ruan Mei is Universal is because she works in pretty much every team, she might not be the BIS for all of the teams but she is atleast usable, Robin is just as good and even Sparkle can shine if your team needs a lot of sp. So guys pull and invest in whichever is your favourite and who works best with your account, every account is different.
rm is BiS in exactly 2 teams but gets extremely hard gapped literally everywhere else robin's whole "so complex to setup" boils down to "do u have a gallagher/huo/ting and a bronya/sparkle available?" and there's a very high chance u have at least one of each group. one of the af char will solve wave 1 issue so u can ult fast and the battery will solve wave 2 and if you somehow have ting and high refine ddd you just smack 2 birds with 1 stone provided you can calculate the spd breakpoints. robin teams are the comfiest to 0c with it's not even close, especially if u have her e1. it genuinely feels like a cheat code
THIS! Especially as a F2p or even if you just don't care, 2 out of the 3 is enough to carry your account so For those of us who got Ruan Mei and Sparkle, Robin was a Luxuray Pull. Unless you're building a specific team (or want to Zero cycle everything), none of them are ABSOLUTE MUST PULL/UNSKIPPABLE BEST UNIT.
@@nkosiezikalala5267you may prefer to have both if you have the opportunity, so is not about who is better anyway all 3 give so much dmg to the team/dps enough to complete all the modes so it doesn’t matter lol.
I would have more sympathy to Ruan Mei fans if they didn't start this shit way back in Robin's beta. Everytime a prydwen tier list is posted the glazing is insane. I even have Ruan Mei and skipped Robin but yeah Ruan Mei stans are a different breed of annoying.
honestly robin should be in tier 0. But prydwen ranks characters without their signature light cone. Because e0s0 robin is unable to maintain 100% ultimate uptime, prydwen lowered her tier. With feixiao release, robin will be upgraded to tier 0 😂.
@@yippy719if Robin does not go up to T0 with Feixiao's release then their list is 100% confirmed garbage and we can finally stop taking them seriously
@@anothernerdontheinternet whats wrong with tier list? Any sane person understands that, with some minor exceptions, the Pridewen tier list is compiled objectively and corresponds to reality. If your waifu is lower on the list than you want, this does not mean that the tier list is wrong.
As the strongest harmony, Robin, fought the fraud, fraud Mei, she began to open her domain, Vox harmonique, Opus cosmique. Fraud Mei shrank back in fear, then Robin said “Stand proud Ruan Mei, you were strong”.
Now try to put robin in ff team you clown 🤡. The fact that rm still amplifies the dmg of a crit dps despite being a break support is already impressive. Can robin do that? 🫵🤡
@@sacrificialscapegoat209 the fun fact is that Robin’s gameplay path is also her lore path, while RM’s lore path is Erudition. That’s why RM shall go back to her original path. Harmony is not for her 😀
Not the Fraud Mei fans contradicting themselves 😭 They went from RM is more universal and Robin is only for FuA to "wHy NOt UsE rM iN bReAk tEaM ThEn" 🤡
yeah and then they complain that crit dps is unfair comparison and then turn around and cry about why ruan mei isn't used in break. Like crit is such a huge niche compared to break...
"Unfair comparison" bro this is an E6 vs E1 showcase when both characters buff all damage done by the dps (and robin's 1200 Atk buff is near useless on blade) 💀
@@zzzy1934 Okay and 😭? i didn't read her Eidolons but you know that the Eidolons are part of the characters them being "useless" count as the character's weaknesses.
@@zzzy1934 yeah and the thing that E1 Robin is one of the most broken Eidolons in the game, it's like having a mini Ruan mei, the video is just to prove that Robin is as universal as Ruan mei if not more.
Yeah, I get the ‘RM fans are annoying’ and ‘Robin is underrated’, but if you’ve paid any attention to the insane power creep in this game, that is a naive take. Robin might feel like Asta a year from now. When the newest ‘OP broken’ Harmony advances your team 3 times while pushing back the enemy twice and giving everyone 50CR and 100 CDMG while triggering super break when the enemy isn’t broken.
remember when everyone said robin was sm worse in follow up atk than ruan mei? yall contradicting urselves “robin needs high energy so shes useless” “robin doesnt generate sp”
@@discreaminant A LOTT of people. Everyone said skip Robin she was so high energy requirement and Ruan Mei does better so why need her when you have Ruan Mei, Theres a whole list of negatives that they made to skip Robin because of Ruan Mei. After shes gone, everyone suddenly realised how OP she is.
@@discreaminant “Too much energy requirement so you are playing a loss. Instead, no need for energy requirement and pull Ruan Mei. Performs consistently and doenst even need energy.” “She doesnt even generate sp so shes super sp negative and you cant use Ratios fua full uptime” “Ruan mei gives a huge dmg boost and Robin needs her ult which will take light years just to perform to Ruan Meis level. Anyways pull Ruan Mei shes super universal and sm better than Robin.” Be for real everyone was attacking gurlie that she would never get her ult to boost dmg and then compared to Ruan Mei, id suck.
@@sa-jy4veWhats the unfair part? Blade dmg scales of Hp, Robin buffs atk and she is still competing agaisnt E6 Ruan Mei. And DHLI is not a FuA nor a break dps, so both Robin and Rm should be on neutral setting in his showcase. If you say RM eidolons are bad then yeah, that's the point of the vídeo, showing off how a E1 Robin is competitive with an E6 RM and that Robin is a better investment in eidolons.
@@sa-jy4veOh so when people were glazing Ruan Mei for months, calling her universal and Robin extremely niche, it’s ok, but god forbid people say Robin’s stronger
@@40WarlocksJulian flop has 2 meaning one is the insult and the other is complementary it's depends on context of sentences. In which this commenter said they complementing her.
To everyone who is saying this is unfair for ruan mei blade doesn't get benefits as much he gets from robin. Why are you not understanding that blade doesn't get shit from Robin's attack buff but he gets every buff of ruan mei and the break damage that ruan mei do is insane it's just that she does nothing other than that but robin just get better and better with her eidonols. At e0 people think she is better just because they don't want to use their brain they just want a character that do everything for just being in the team that's why i don't like ruan mei. She is strong but not as strong as much people think she is.
@@zzzy1934he does, so what. Ruan Mei eidolons are focus on doing more dmg towards broken enemies, giving break efficency and BE makes so Blade can break enemies faster so he gets the effect from RM E2 and E6. RM E6 makes her talent do nuke dgm so if Blade is breaking faster than RM E6 is procking faster.
They overhype her and glazing she's universal while the only buff she gave that's matter in "universal" is her pen res. I swear when they released a harmony that scale in crit dmg with res pen she'll be bench well not in break team at least. I hope Sunday floors her in his release
@@armihnfruity4788 RM will get benched even in break, Her skill and Major trace from A6 do nothing for break, imagine a chracter that besides removing Res and giving Weakness Break Efficiency also shreds enemy def instead of buffing Dmg% which is useless to break teams.
People tends to forget that Robin's residual dmg from ultimate is what makes it so broken that u don't need any carry and attacking supports can utilize it. DDD, speed buffs and eagle eRegen set can help carries or offensive supports with calculated speed can trigger Robin's ult residual dmg 3 times per character. Ting Yun has the best synergy with Robin because she can help Robin maintain 100% ult uptime. RM's dmg buff is only active during weakness broken state and it ain't even close to how much Robin's residual dmg deals.
People saying that this showcase is skewed towards Robin, and that E6 Robin agaisnt E1 RM in break teams would is going to be similar to this video. First Blade is an hp scaling unit he doesn't benefit from Robin atk. And DHLI is the most neutral dps we have in the game for a comparasion, he has no FuA or break scaling. Also Robin eidolons still buff break unlike RM eidolons which are only functional for break. Robin E1 gives 24% res pen which break and Superbreak both benefit from, her E2 gives speed which also all break units love, her E4 is bad, her E6 just makes it the first 6 hits of concerto due 100k dgm which all break units can benefit. Ruan Mei eidolons are just trash really and that is kinda the point of the vídeo
Firstly, Robin's E2 is near useless unless you're pushing 180 spd, which most people aren't going to reach because that's a waste of other important subs. And the extra energy? Just watch this video again. Not even on FuA teams and still has nearly 100% ult uptime, extra energy not needed. Yes, anything past E1 for Ruan Mei is pretty much bad, but you are simply wrong to say that her eidolons "are only functional for break". E1 is def ignore - buffs all, E2 actually buffs everything BUT break teams because ATK% doesn't boost break dmg, E3 and E5 are RES Pen and DMG% increase - buffs all, E4 is much better for break teams, but still increases her personal damage for other teams, E6 only increases her talent damage, which is very minorly buffed by HMC's Break DMG% buff, but overall her E6 buffs all teams. All-in-all, her eidolons are not tailored for break at all; break teams benefit more from E4, teams other than break benefit from E2. And no, the point of the video was not that Mei's eidolons are bad, the only point is to simp for Robin, and that's all.
@@nosneponsnek the only eidolon RM has that doesn't benefit break is E2, her E6 is triggered more often on break teams where the units can break enemies in a low amount of turns. The point is still that Robin eidolons unironically are synergistic with break just like RM eidolons but I didn't convey that sentiment well in the comment. Also her E4 is clearly made for her E6 and for Superbreak. That eidolon has way higher value in Superbreak teams than non break teams
@tieAcherry101 never said she was better. Just pointed out factual inconsistencies with what was said. (PS. sorry for the double notification - TH-cam deletes like half of my main account comments for no reason, and I forget to switch all the time)
@ducklet0 How does E6 trigger more on break teams? From my experience with break team, enemies die before recovering from break, so RM talent only triggers once per enemy. My non-break teams usually break once, but sometimes even twice because they don't get extra delay from Thanatoplum Rebloom. If anything, E6 would benefit my non-break teams more. I never claimed that Robin's eidolons don't benefit break teams. I only intended to prove that Ruan Mei's benefit other teams in order to correct the misinformation that Ruan Mei's eidolons "are only functional for break." Also, I already agreed that RM's E4 was better for break teams (really superbreak, as you said).
@@Fat_Ruckeryeah but chevvy was quite toxic with the thumbnails😅 Hes the og robin propagandist.when everyone was glazing ruanmei He made me grateful for pulling robin
That's why I skipped E1 RM on my account, to make my E0S0 blade stronger. She brings nothing to my account with Blade, Seele, Acheron, Ratio and Boothill (but he already destroy physical weak). Robin, on the other hand, can significantly improve my account.
Ruan Mei E2, E4, and E6 are backloaded compared to Robin (all of this eidolon need you to break enemy thoughness first). It's still dmg increase for your DPS as long as they don't "bruteforce" element (except break team or E6 Acheron/Feixiao). Very different with E1S1 Robin especially if you use her with AF buffer like Bronya so you can make her dmg more frontloaded at the start of rotation. Also if your DPS has "enough" dmg to 0 cycle the first wave, your Bronya basically will get 3 turn (4 turn for some team) for the first concerto state of Robin. It's even crazier if you can get Robin ult uptime for the second wave with some factor like RNG enemy hit, char hit (mostly FuA char), or Galla with qpq LC. But I'm still impressed with this run because I can see by myself how strong is E1S1 Robin actually. Good showcase btw.
i know RM is broken and all that, got a copy myself but never even used her on any hard content lmao I just hope people stopped glazing her like, i see her on my trending tab every fucking week i even ended up blacklisting it
I mean what's the point of this showcase? Outside of the Break team course Robin would be better this isn't a new thing we've known this for a while the Team wide AF is broken in EG content.
The point is that a Robin E6 can carry any team independent if his break or super break, because she's busted in her own damage. Ruan Mei in comparasion cannot carry a team with her Own damage at E6 outside break teams.
I see a lot of people saying Ruan Mei is the best unit ever in HSR and top 1 must pull meanwhile Robin is not even in top 5 must pulls which is really crazy.
You're absolutely right, the point is that a lot of people insist Ruan Mei is better everywhere so the point of this showcase is to show that that isn't the case. You'd be surprised how many people need to see this to understand it.
Honestly in turn based game It’s always been a racing speed game as someone’s comment i read long ago Robin’s ability to advance the whole team by 100% is great enough (And in apocalyptic gamemode thing terms is a whole team actions with no action points deducted) Her E1 being 1% off from ruan mei’s level 10 ultimate, E2 offering 16% speed boost And just being a harmony that can do damage (TONS of them) E4 being the same as with aventurine’s eff res shield (stack them both and your team’s basically immune to control effects or effects of any kind) E6 makes her the main carry Robin is just that good, and the more you invest in her (eidolons, LC), she’s better. As long as there’s no weird ass non-attack scaling meta in the future, she’s here to stay. And also, as a day 1 ruan mei lover (yes, i pulled her on her first day; not thinking much of how problematic she is considering the Swamps thing and the unethical mindset she has when doing experiments and the bio shenanigans) And yes, i dont know of the break meta to come too. So i just pulled cause, fuxuan can sustain a 2 dps team, and i love that we get a team wide harmony buffer. I love her still. 3 turns ultimate. Comfortable even outside of break team 3/4 star lightcone works perfectly fine This is what i think of when i read/say Ruanmei is “universal” and easy to use. No doubts that with the release of Robin, she seems not as good outside of break team. But to me, i love them both. One for each side Just as i do with Aventurin and Fuxuan (now gallagher) with sustains choices So i dont get it with the fan wars in the comments like they’re both so good and even broken when going TOGETHER (like i tried a Harmony trinity team in Divergent universe and feat Jade and it’s hilarious how much damage robin and jade can pump out) So yea
To your point of the non attack scalers, we saw her zero cycle with blade who’s attack scaling is more or lesss non existent. So I think she’s here to stay even IF you have non attack scalers
@@Yoru... That's what they did in this video ruan mei is a specific break support with some other perks but can you say the same about Robin in a firefly team not to mention rappa is around the corner and we currently have only 1 dps (firefly) who can properly use ruan mei
E1 Robin is actually really good with Blade, feels very similar to my RM even though the 1000+ ATK boost won't affect Blade anywhere close to how it effects an ATK scaller, + the Extra damage goes really well with Blade. and the RM havers be like "The Fairest Comparison is comparing both with Firefly"
Ruan Mei, Robin and Sparkle are all very strong characters in certain situations and definitely worth their investment. Although lc and Robin's eidolons are stronger than Ruan Mei's
no, robin is most specifically a FUA support while ruan mei is a break support. no one here uses fua other than blade but his fua is only 25-30% of his total damage. ruan mei glazers used to say "but she's universal and can be used in any team!!!" so doesn't this apply to that as well?
@@Sampoforeverrrr i mean i do agree robin is better in all crit comps i just don’t stand for mother mei hate lol. she’s still universal there’s just teams where robin is better
@@nicotorres12 it's not that unfair.. they're literally in their highest potential with their best teammates.. and since ruan mei's eidolons arent that good but with Break oriented teams, i don't see anything putting any of them at their disadvantage.
Cornflake I love your videos but isnt this comparison fairly pointless because: -Other than maybe E2 (Which is both situational and also boosts atk so it does not benefit blade), Ruan Mei's Eidolons do literally nothing for anyone other than Break Team and maybe DOT. I get the point you are trying to put across Robin better but this is just and E1 Robin vs E1 Ruan mei comparison in one team where Robin is clearly better and another where it is more even in terms of playing field and got the same clear.
@@cheesycake455 Within their base kits: - Ruan Mei gives 68% dmg - Robin give 50% dmg and 20% unconditional CD and 25% CD to his FUA (FUA Gets 45% CD). Even ignoring the ATK from her ult Robin would still be the better support for him just off the basis off how much DMG% blade overcaps on ( 40% from skill, 20% to FUA Major Trace ) on top of the Buffs to his FUA
Mate if even blade (hp scaler) is better with robin (atk buffer) compared to ruan mei (universal buffer) then where even is ruan mei better aside from break teams?@@hypemaddox
@@devildante9 I agree with that I just find this video is a bit disingenous by using a DPS like Blade and pretty much doomposting by using Ruan Mei E6 that practically does nothing outside of break. It just serves no purpose than making ruan mei sound useless when they are still the 2 best units in the game and they could have just done the E1 vs E1 with DHIL to pass the point across. Ruan Meis biggest value is honestly you just place her on a team and call it quits no optimisation no nothing. Robin has a higher ceiling but Ruan Meis is an ease of use queen which for most ppl is a pretty big factor.
Im confused what people are complaing about blade personal damage was significantly greater than robin, the thing robin did was work in tandem with bronya to give blade a smany turns as possible. Yh its a zero cycle but one that massively realises on bronya robin synergy. Robins surport to the entire entire is better than ruan mei but the damage blade was dishing iut was greater on ruan meis side??? Ppl need to chill.😊
Should i pull for robin or jiaoqiu for my acheron? I only use E1 Acheron, E6 pela, and E6 gallagher, I need to choose one of them because of limited stellar jades left + now saving for acheron E2
acheron's best team right now is with robin + jiaoqiu + aventurine, so losing either robin or jiaoqiu will both lead to decreased performance for her. Jiaoqiu is a better addition to acheron team especially if she is struggling in PF, while robin provides more value to your entire account. Personally i would pick robin as she can do well in other team unlike jiaoqiu is pretty much stuck with acheron.
@@fkyolo8573 Robin is borderline unplayable in Jiaoqiu-less Acheron teams. The reason she is viable at all in Acheron teams is because Jiaoqiu does the heavy lifting for stack generation, if you take him out of the equation there's a much heavier burden on the second support slot to generate stacks for Acheron and SW or even Black Swan/e6 Gui will outperform her here. Acheron/Robin's best sustain is also QPQ Gallagher not Aventurine (unless you're in very fast aoe heavy fights like Hoolay, in which case Aventurine is a sufficient battery) and even then you have to gamble on QPQ rng to go into Robin instead of Acheron. The fact that you're prioritising Robin over Jiaoqiu specifically for Acheron teams, and you're suggesting Aventurine over Gallagher, suggests to me you've never actually tried playing the Ach/Robin team and played through its strengths and weaknesses.
if you are getting e2 then get robin. jiaoqiu is a better pela (well he is a way better pela) but robin is a better improvement to the team than jiaoqiu is what i am trying to say
I recently pulled sparkle and now i have ruan mei, robin and sparkle. I am 100% going for robin lc next because it provides soooooooo much buffs then her f2p ones. Also gonna try for e1
e1 > s1 > e2 imo e1 is the best bang for your buck but keep in mind that her personal dmg will be a lot lower without sig. e1s1 if u have the jades without whaling would be peak
after e1 ruan mei eidolons basically do nothing other than for break team So this showcase is more like an e1 rm showcase honestly, well tbf i also do see some of e6 ruan mei break damage here like that shit deals 180k damage came from aventurine that break the enemy
I'm convinced now that the creater has some kind of beef with ruan me😂 he never once used her in break effect team or dot team or any other team that actually needs ruan mai😅
@suzain_769 yeah, her e2 isnt even taken advantage of here, e4 is bad anyway, it just seems like the creator wants to make her look bad, because even only with e1 mei he would have gotten a 1 cycle clear for sure maybe even 0
Jsyk i have rm but i plan on getting robin e1 if possible but ngl gang thats likely not gonna happen as the start of jiaqoui patch i have 10 pulls and Robin is tye next rerun in feixia path but im guaranteed tho
The thing is: From the very beginning, Robin has been on the upper hand in terms of buffing the damage and maneuvering the battle, BUT i understand the reason why Ruan Mei is still considered the best Harmony compared to Robin is because of her accessibility and comfort for all type of players there is. The general scenario to compare both value is at E0S0. At E0S0 Ruan Mei can already be considered complete since there's no certain caviat that you need to cover with eidolons and/or sign LC. Meanwhile, in my opinion and based on many different testings by various (unbiased) CC, it's imperative to point out that outside of FuA team, E0S0 Robin will have trouble maintaining her Ult uptime (which is where her true power is unlocked behind). E0S0 Robin will most likely be a tad more difficult to run and set up than Ruan Mei, especially for newer players. With S1, i do think Robin is complete and is comparable if not better than E0S0 Ruan Mei. Thus, the exact reason why Ruan Mei is more universal, accessible, and is preferred by any type of players, in any team, and any content (be it for Endgame or for newbies) and is considered the better harmony. So yeah, i do think this video is to hype up Robin's fans 😂. She is indeed better at minimum E0S1 (at E1 she's even better and even more universal) compared to E0S0/E0S1 Ruan Mei as a damage buffer. Not to mention, RM ediolons outside of E1 is quite meh IMO. So i really see no point of comparing E6S1 RM and E1S1 Robin where all that truly matters is how both perform at E0S0 and both are proven good, but i can see RM is generally more preferred. Also, this is not including other factors such as utility and added value that both characters offer.
Probably IL, Sparkle/TY/Hanya, Robin, sustain. But I always use Sparkle because she is E1S0 and has high investment on her relic (169 spd wind set S5 DDD). I tried to change my Sparkle to TY or Hanya once. It's around 1 cycle different interm of clear time. So I think the gap should be really close if she's just E0S0.
@@IIvIIaxiimusIIvIIinimus IL, Sparkle, Robin, Sustain. I always use Huo Huo for sustain to minimize Robin ult downtime. You maybe confused about how is the SP. But you can "control" your IL so you can save SP and release his 3 sp enhance basic atk in Robin concerto state. You just need to think a little bit if you wanna use this team.
Mr youtuber if you can, lets settle this by having E1 RM on a break team vs E6 Robin since Blade and Dhil advantage more Robin if we reverse the role we should end up with result similar to this video.
@@ducklet0 Hey look at the comment section I aint thinking that but other seems to think it so I proposed a way to calm everyone down 🤷♂️🤷♂️ You think idk how the results would go 😂
Why tf is ruan mai here i mean isn't she good for break teams and dot teams why are we using blade with her who is a kind of a follow up unit wtaf is this comparison for
To compare e6 ruan mei vs e1 robin, seeing if at e6 ruan mei can beat robin in a blade team or if robin can that's what the comparison is for and for dhil
As a haver of both at E0, I clearly use Ruan Mei more💀🙏🔥 (it's not that I hate Robin, I just use my Break team more often now + no fua team + I use Sparkle for Acheron) so yeah Robin absolutely got benched💀
Wow, there is so much hate comments. This entire comparasion is meme. I thought it's obvious but - Robin is best at zero cycling, always (except break team in most cases), her ultimate busted and "extending" it through wave change even more busted. For non-fua team Ruan Mei is often stronger in longer fights (2-3+ cycles), uptime of her buffs is consistent in all teams, she doesnt depend from how much hits she take and she can generate more sp over time. It's really cool to look on "shiny 0 cycles" which most players dont even do and compare characters on it, in reality their "value" is almost same and mostly depends from their signature teams (break and fua) where they have most value.
I don't think this proved much ... The reason Ruan Mei is considered universal is because even though she is not a crit/Fua support, she is still decent in whatever team she replaces Robin in, but the other way around is not true. Ruan Mei in Robin's spot does a lot better than Robin in a break team, so technically, Ruan Mei is more universal. So basically, the difference is : A bunch of decent teams + a BIS team (Ruan Mei in break) vs a bunch of BIS teams + a terrible team (Robin in break) The amount of teams Robin is BIS in has increased since she was released, but technically, RM is still universal because she is BIS in break teams and decent compared to Robin in the others. Skipping Robin when she was released is not really that big of a deal because back then because she is rerunning soon. The only problem is if you're still stubborn and believe that Ruan Mei is better than Robin in those teams specifically
but what exactly are the teams robin can't be used in? this person just proved that you can use robin with blade who is a hp scaler. it's not like robin can't be used with break too when she's amazing with boothill just for the action advance alone. ruan mei isn't as optimal in yunli clara/counter comps just like robin is in break no? genuinely asking here
The ONLY team that doesn't get benefit from Robin is just Firefly super break team. Not because Robin is bad, it is just the Firefly team is too restrictive. Boothill still gets the benefit of 100% AF from Robin. And for other crit/atk based teams, we already know that Robin is superior than RM
@@rezaabiyoso1855 also ruan mei is worse than e0 march 7th hunt in clara and yunli teams, but in break, robin is def better than some f2p options (especially in boothill, where sometimes using robin is more worthn than rm for action advance)
Call me a Rm fan or anyway you want but the fact that a break support still helps a crit dps by a lot is already impressive. What about you try to put robin in a firefly team 🤡
she became a "break support" like 2 patches ago lay off the copium man. nearly 6 months of rm clowns yapping about how broken and universal she is even after robin's release and she's only a break support because that's the only niche left for her to fill up. once the next break efficiency supp is out she's going on the perma bench on ff teams and maaaaaaaaaaybe will still have a slot in bh teams if he doesnt run bronya also remind me how her 68+24 dmg% buffing break teams
ok e6 robin vs e1 rm in firefly team. Too bad firefly wont be able to shine since the enemy is already dead. Also isn't ur precious rm supposed to be universal? If she is so universal stop complaining about bad comparison? Also in break, boothill has a higher ceiling is is often used with robin. Also, in fua the difference is between rm and robin is similar to the difference in break
this entire comment section is a backlash to the ruan mei glazers who trashed on robin as a sidegrade back in 2.2, and while i don't blame robin fans for being pissed (i almost didn't pull for her because i already had ruan mei), i'm ngl... they're doing too much with the whole fraud mei bit 😭 like okay!! i'm convinced!! i was gonna save for e1 ruan mei but i'll pull e1 robin now!! jesus!! also, it just doesn't look good when an e1 character can 0-cycle the same as an e6 character, but i dunno. i'm still on team ruan mei despite not agreeing with her glazers, mainly because -i think ruan mei's prettier- her playstyle is so unga bunga that it's near impossible to fuck up, whereas robin takes ever so slightly more brainpower to use. that being said, robin's e1 doing so well is more of a testament to how it's the most broken eidolon in the game, rather than ruan mei being a significantly """worse""" character. both are good
I'm not even an rm truther but this video is just garbage... Like what are you even trying to say??? We know Robin is usually a better crit dps amp and we also all know e1-6 rm provides VERY little extra amp beyond e1. This is just a dumb premise
Why change the sustain on Robin, isn't Aventurine can use the FUA better and contribute a bit more dmg? Is it bc energy issues that u have to change to a healer for quid pro quo?
Yeah, without Gallagher abusing QPQ it won't be possible to fill Robin's energy so she can ult again after finishing the first one. And that is the tricky part since QPQ is RNG unless only Robin has below 50% energy when Gallagher turn comes around, and in Feixiao/Acheron team the QPQ can always land on them instead since the system considers them having 0 energy even at full stacks, wasting the QPQ effect.
Какие гениальные тесты, сравнивать персонажа, баффающего эффект пробития, и персонажа, баффающего атк. Автор, а че на светляке не сравнил, а только на удобных себе персонажах? Еще и впридачу самое главное не написал - турбулентность. Какой же мусорный канал я в шоке. Ноль объективности.
как же я забыл гениальнейший свап сустейнеров. Провести нормальный тест, чтобы был один и тот же сустейнер? Не, зачем, мы будем менять сустейнеров, чтоб люди сидели калькулировали демедж от руки галлакхера и фу суань и смотрели покрывает(превосходит) ли небольшой бафф фу суань в виде хп и крит шанса урон от ульты галлахера.
@@yoyododo9234 her eidolons are only For break aside from E1 Robin isnt going to deal the same dmg in E6 with Hook than with feixiao/topaz/ratio still can work yeah but is not the same in this vid they this was mostly was a E1vsE1
@@claudiowiseman8488 No the fact the the supposed "universal" support has niche eidolons is not good. (no everybody says how universal rm is). Ruan mei has one eidolon that helps besides break. All of robins eidolons are good outside of fua tho. Also I think you are discrediting how truly op robins eidolons (besides 4) are.
@@yoyododo9234 E4 isnt good tho, pretty sure 5 chars doesnt want Robin e6 over RM e1 also robin E6 isn't that strong alone in E6 is 60k per attk can be buffed but in most scenario isnt the case most of E6 robins showcases use E6 RM and E6 sparkle that doesn't count, you can look for lily alquina to see of much dmg does robin E6 alone or just can test it from a friend so it ppl say that rm is universal bc she he in base kit but from beta eidolon were always for break chars and can say it too youre discrediting how OP RM eidolons are Crack just made a vid a few days ago dealing 1.2m with RM e6 this channes is a robin salemans so is kinda obv is going to make Robins look better always i trust parcial guys no salemas
no Robin is better cause she is more universal. If the character is only the best because of her 1 team then she cannot be the best if the other competitor can be the best with most teams.
"Don't use FuA characters"
"Don't use DoT characters"
"Don't use Crit characers"
"E1->E6 does nothing" (E1 got a 3 cycle clear on blade)
😶
@@cornflakebutsilly e2 buff atk only when enemies are broken(useless for blade, useless for literally every character except firefly), e4 beak effect boost for herself which doesn't benefit the team at all, only e6 is contributing a bit by extending ult uptime and doing more dmg with break
@@zzzy1934 broski robin's 1200+ Atk buff "useless for blade"
@cheesycake455 thats all robin does? What about action advance, crit dmg, dmg, res pen e1? The point is that ruan meis eidolons do nothing for blade or il, so there is literally no reason to use her e6 with them
@@zzzy1934 E6 RM does E0 Robin amounts of damage, her E4 and E6 are no joke to her personal damage. At 2:25 RM did almost 300k damage(yes that's more damage than Blade himself in that turn).
@@BailuGaming that dmg happens once in a decade☠️ her eidolons past e1 are just not good at all
Everyone says how unfair this comparison is since DHIL and Blade are both crit carries, but no one talks about how Blade scales more with HP than ATK, so Robin should be even worse than RM on paper with him.
It's the Bronya Robin synergy! it's so freaking strong it doesn't even matter that Blade has garbo atk scaling
I don't know if you know what DPR is, but it doesn't matter what Blade is, you're giving DPR to the team and better setups to Bronya for a silly comparison.
Blade is of no use to Ruan, even to anyone who knows a little about the game.
And Dang well the most "why do you want to break up??? if you can make setups with Ruan"
But no one talks about the DOTcheron teams where Ruan is indisputably better than Robin.
Or the Firefly or Bothin teams
Let's create misinformation with Ruan Caballero KEKW
@@toxicplayer5883 Actualy, Robin is better with Acheron in her his team even with Acheron at e0, and in DoT Acheron, are you going to play without any sustain?
@@ТигранСафарян-о6б Dotcheron is never played with sustein because you want breakup, no ironically the only Kafka team that achieved cyclo 0 in this MOC is Dotcheron
@@toxicplayer5883 but still, if we are using Acheron, her best partner is JQ, and as harmony in this team Robin a lot better, then RM
“Omggg Ruan Mei’s eidolons don’t do anything what’s the point of this???” Oh, so if Robin beats Ruan Mei if both are at E0 or E6 then doesn’t that mean she’s just… better…?
yeah like... shouldn't characters get points off for having bad eidelons?
Better for some content, worse for others
Guys, all three of the Harmony Trinity, Robin, Ruan Mei, and Sparkle are extremely strong characters that can really improve your account for the better. But of course with limited Jades, new releases and sudden reruns getting all of them may be difficult, so sometimes you have to choose and that will depend on the state of your account and the future you want to have for your account. Why most people specifically say Ruan Mei is Universal is because she works in pretty much every team, she might not be the BIS for all of the teams but she is atleast usable, Robin is just as good and even Sparkle can shine if your team needs a lot of sp. So guys pull and invest in whichever is your favourite and who works best with your account, every account is different.
rm is BiS in exactly 2 teams but gets extremely hard gapped literally everywhere else
robin's whole "so complex to setup" boils down to "do u have a gallagher/huo/ting and a bronya/sparkle available?" and there's a very high chance u have at least one of each group. one of the af char will solve wave 1 issue so u can ult fast and the battery will solve wave 2 and if you somehow have ting and high refine ddd you just smack 2 birds with 1 stone provided you can calculate the spd breakpoints. robin teams are the comfiest to 0c with it's not even close, especially if u have her e1. it genuinely feels like a cheat code
THIS!
Especially as a F2p or even if you just don't care, 2 out of the 3 is enough to carry your account so For those of us who got Ruan Mei and Sparkle, Robin was a Luxuray Pull. Unless you're building a specific team (or want to Zero cycle everything), none of them are ABSOLUTE MUST PULL/UNSKIPPABLE BEST UNIT.
@@nkosiezikalala5267you may prefer to have both if you have the opportunity, so is not about who is better anyway all 3 give so much dmg to the team/dps enough to complete all the modes so it doesn’t matter lol.
Ayo stfu, we can't have sensible people around here, it's no fun!
I would have more sympathy to Ruan Mei fans if they didn't start this shit way back in Robin's beta. Everytime a prydwen tier list is posted the glazing is insane. I even have Ruan Mei and skipped Robin but yeah Ruan Mei stans are a different breed of annoying.
honestly robin should be in tier 0. But prydwen ranks characters without their signature light cone.
Because e0s0 robin is unable to maintain 100% ultimate uptime, prydwen lowered her tier. With feixiao release, robin will be upgraded to tier 0 😂.
@@yippy719if Robin does not go up to T0 with Feixiao's release then their list is 100% confirmed garbage and we can finally stop taking them seriously
@@anothernerdontheinternet did that long ago
@@anothernerdontheinternet whats wrong with tier list?
Any sane person understands that, with some minor exceptions, the Pridewen tier list is compiled objectively and corresponds to reality. If your waifu is lower on the list than you want, this does not mean that the tier list is wrong.
@@eastprince9407 no its wrong
As the strongest harmony, Robin, fought the fraud, fraud Mei, she began to open her domain, Vox harmonique, Opus cosmique. Fraud Mei shrank back in fear, then Robin said “Stand proud Ruan Mei, you were strong”.
they crucified me for saying this and telling the truth 😭😭😭💀
It’s always “Ruan Mei is the best meta broken harmony!!” until the goalpost shifts to “Well 0 cycling doesn’t matter as long as a character can clear”
Now try to put robin in ff team you clown 🤡. The fact that rm still amplifies the dmg of a crit dps despite being a break support is already impressive. Can robin do that? 🫵🤡
@@sacrificialscapegoat209 the fun fact is that Robin’s gameplay path is also her lore path, while RM’s lore path is Erudition. That’s why RM shall go back to her original path. Harmony is not for her 😀
@@qingquedevoutthe point is people call her useless just because she didn’t 0 cycle when the game doesn’t need you to 0 cycle to get all rewards
Everyone talking about who is better harmony unit, but bro just 0 cycle with Blade 💀
That's how cracked these Harmony units are.
0c a one phase boss with like 1.2m hp at best
this is whatever
Fr lol, that's what amazed me the most lol
@@hachira 1.2 mill is equal to Argenti last MOC (600k x2)
Not the Fraud Mei fans contradicting themselves 😭 They went from RM is more universal and Robin is only for FuA to "wHy NOt UsE rM iN bReAk tEaM ThEn" 🤡
yeah and then they complain that crit dps is unfair comparison and then turn around and cry about why ruan mei isn't used in break. Like crit is such a huge niche compared to break...
Some people really want to see e1 rm vs e6 robin in super break team💀💀💀💀. Let me tell you, She'll do more than the dps in the team
Oh motherbin don't end ruan mid like that
😭
"Unfair comparison" bro this is an E6 vs E1 showcase when both characters buff all damage done by the dps
(and robin's 1200 Atk buff is near useless on blade) 💀
@cheesycake455 none of meis eidolons are good except e1
@@zzzy1934 Okay and 😭? i didn't read her Eidolons but you know that the Eidolons are part of the characters them being "useless" count as the character's weaknesses.
@@zzzy1934 Damn. Mid support with mid vertical investment /s
@justblue576 most people only pull up to e1 or e2, e6 is whale territory
@@zzzy1934 yeah and the thing that E1 Robin is one of the most broken Eidolons in the game, it's like having a mini Ruan mei, the video is just to prove that Robin is as universal as Ruan mei if not more.
Hsr meta will NEVER recover from robin LMAO
The scary part is they will eventually powercreep Robin. Maybe bosses will have 3-4m hp by then.
@@MartianMage I'm scared if this will happen, bc they definitely and can powercreep T0 dps like Acheron and Firefly
Yeah, I get the ‘RM fans are annoying’ and ‘Robin is underrated’, but if you’ve paid any attention to the insane power creep in this game, that is a naive take. Robin might feel like Asta a year from now. When the newest ‘OP broken’ Harmony advances your team 3 times while pushing back the enemy twice and giving everyone 50CR and 100 CDMG while triggering super break when the enemy isn’t broken.
@@leedeveethis character should be named "Dawei"
@@leedeveethe more naive take is to think Harmony can be powercrept easily lmao
E6 robin would be a massacre
with E6 Robin you don't even need a DPS on the team
My robin propaganda bout to go crazy when feixiao comes out
remember when everyone said robin was sm worse in follow up atk than ruan mei? yall contradicting urselves “robin needs high energy so shes useless” “robin doesnt generate sp”
People did say RM better in IPC fua because mah Ratio needs debuffs, when S1 E2 Aventurine and S1 and E1 Topaz exist for a reason.
Who said that? Robin’s stans playing victim? Back then everyone’s already acknowledged than Robin is better for Fua 🙂
@@discreaminant A LOTT of people. Everyone said skip Robin she was so high energy requirement and Ruan Mei does better so why need her when you have Ruan Mei, Theres a whole list of negatives that they made to skip Robin because of Ruan Mei. After shes gone, everyone suddenly realised how OP she is.
@@angelixaroxe2986 but “sm worse in follow-up atk” is an overstatement lol I only see people yapping the first 3 words, not the fua part
@@discreaminant “Too much energy requirement so you are playing a loss. Instead, no need for energy requirement and pull Ruan Mei. Performs consistently and doenst even need energy.” “She doesnt even generate sp so shes super sp negative and you cant use Ratios fua full uptime” “Ruan mei gives a huge dmg boost and Robin needs her ult which will take light years just to perform to Ruan Meis level. Anyways pull Ruan Mei shes super universal and sm better than Robin.” Be for real everyone was attacking gurlie that she would never get her ult to boost dmg and then compared to Ruan Mei, id suck.
Stand proud Ruan Mei, you are strong.
With e6*
With e6*
@@sa-jy4veWhats the unfair part? Blade dmg scales of Hp, Robin buffs atk and she is still competing agaisnt E6 Ruan Mei. And DHLI is not a FuA nor a break dps, so both Robin and Rm should be on neutral setting in his showcase. If you say RM eidolons are bad then yeah, that's the point of the vídeo, showing off how a E1 Robin is competitive with an E6 RM and that Robin is a better investment in eidolons.
@@sa-jy4veOh so when people were glazing Ruan Mei for months, calling her universal and Robin extremely niche, it’s ok, but god forbid people say Robin’s stronger
@@sa-jy4veunfair for robin?
Star rail fans eating good. We literally got Miss Universal contest here 😂
so true, both are queens lmao
oh robin don't end her like that
As I said…
This channel is promoting Robin without telling they’re promoting Robin.
Amém brother
unfair comparison, do e6s5 ruan mei vs e0s0 robin and youll see goat mei sweeps that fraudbin 😭🙏
RM fans: "I didn't see anything 🤡"
Rm fans : "B-but s-she's more universal" 🤓
Ruan meis e2 e4 and e6 are all kinda mid, she would have performed almost the same if she was only e1 as well☠️
yh tho e2 does help dhil if he weakness breaks, but e3 and e5 does help dhil and blade, e4 and e6 only contributes to her damage.@@zzzy1934
Except ruan mei e2 is decent for dh, since dhil doesnt get a lot of attack
@@yoyododo9234 that atk buff is only for when attacked weakness broken enemies
Flop Xuan contributed more then E6 Ruan Mei in the Blade run 🔥
Gallagher solos
@@BailuGaming yea he solos me in bed aggressively 😍🤪
Yeah like the hp and crit rate buff is just sooooo good
Flop xuan? That‘s wild how u insult best girl like that .
@@40WarlocksJulian flop has 2 meaning one is the insult and the other is complementary it's depends on context of sentences. In which this commenter said they complementing her.
To everyone who is saying this is unfair for ruan mei blade doesn't get benefits as much he gets from robin. Why are you not understanding that blade doesn't get shit from Robin's attack buff but he gets every buff of ruan mei and the break damage that ruan mei do is insane it's just that she does nothing other than that but robin just get better and better with her eidonols. At e0 people think she is better just because they don't want to use their brain they just want a character that do everything for just being in the team that's why i don't like ruan mei. She is strong but not as strong as much people think she is.
@@AnordinaryMan007 he gets every buff of mei? He benefits from 50% weakness break efficiency and 20% break effect?
Shut up and hop off robin meat
@@zzzy1934he does, so what. Ruan Mei eidolons are focus on doing more dmg towards broken enemies, giving break efficency and BE makes so Blade can break enemies faster so he gets the effect from RM E2 and E6. RM E6 makes her talent do nuke dgm so if Blade is breaking faster than RM E6 is procking faster.
They overhype her and glazing she's universal while the only buff she gave that's matter in "universal" is her pen res. I swear when they released a harmony that scale in crit dmg with res pen she'll be bench well not in break team at least. I hope Sunday floors her in his release
@@armihnfruity4788 RM will get benched even in break, Her skill and Major trace from A6 do nothing for break, imagine a chracter that besides removing Res and giving Weakness Break Efficiency also shreds enemy def instead of buffing Dmg% which is useless to break teams.
Ruan Mid fans in shambles
People tends to forget that Robin's residual dmg from ultimate is what makes it so broken that u don't need any carry and attacking supports can utilize it. DDD, speed buffs and eagle eRegen set can help carries or offensive supports with calculated speed can trigger Robin's ult residual dmg 3 times per character. Ting Yun has the best synergy with Robin because she can help Robin maintain 100% ult uptime.
RM's dmg buff is only active during weakness broken state and it ain't even close to how much Robin's residual dmg deals.
People saying that this showcase is skewed towards Robin, and that E6 Robin agaisnt E1 RM in break teams would is going to be similar to this video. First Blade is an hp scaling unit he doesn't benefit from Robin atk. And DHLI is the most neutral dps we have in the game for a comparasion, he has no FuA or break scaling. Also Robin eidolons still buff break unlike RM eidolons which are only functional for break. Robin E1 gives 24% res pen which break and Superbreak both benefit from, her E2 gives speed which also all break units love, her E4 is bad, her E6 just makes it the first 6 hits of concerto due 100k dgm which all break units can benefit. Ruan Mei eidolons are just trash really and that is kinda the point of the vídeo
Firstly, Robin's E2 is near useless unless you're pushing 180 spd, which most people aren't going to reach because that's a waste of other important subs. And the extra energy? Just watch this video again. Not even on FuA teams and still has nearly 100% ult uptime, extra energy not needed.
Yes, anything past E1 for Ruan Mei is pretty much bad, but you are simply wrong to say that her eidolons "are only functional for break". E1 is def ignore - buffs all, E2 actually buffs everything BUT break teams because ATK% doesn't boost break dmg, E3 and E5 are RES Pen and DMG% increase - buffs all, E4 is much better for break teams, but still increases her personal damage for other teams, E6 only increases her talent damage, which is very minorly buffed by HMC's Break DMG% buff, but overall her E6 buffs all teams. All-in-all, her eidolons are not tailored for break at all; break teams benefit more from E4, teams other than break benefit from E2.
And no, the point of the video was not that Mei's eidolons are bad, the only point is to simp for Robin, and that's all.
@@nosneponsnek the only eidolon RM has that doesn't benefit break is E2, her E6 is triggered more often on break teams where the units can break enemies in a low amount of turns. The point is still that Robin eidolons unironically are synergistic with break just like RM eidolons but I didn't convey that sentiment well in the comment. Also her E4 is clearly made for her E6 and for Superbreak. That eidolon has way higher value in Superbreak teams than non break teams
@@nosneponsnekme when I try to cope that Ruan Mei is better than Robin
@tieAcherry101 never said she was better. Just pointed out factual inconsistencies with what was said.
(PS. sorry for the double notification - TH-cam deletes like half of my main account comments for no reason, and I forget to switch all the time)
@ducklet0 How does E6 trigger more on break teams? From my experience with break team, enemies die before recovering from break, so RM talent only triggers once per enemy. My non-break teams usually break once, but sometimes even twice because they don't get extra delay from Thanatoplum Rebloom. If anything, E6 would benefit my non-break teams more.
I never claimed that Robin's eidolons don't benefit break teams. I only intended to prove that Ruan Mei's benefit other teams in order to correct the misinformation that Ruan Mei's eidolons "are only functional for break." Also, I already agreed that RM's E4 was better for break teams (really superbreak, as you said).
Brother this was OVERKILL 😂
At this point you should try testing Robin in a break team, it might still clear faster than Ruan Mei for all you know.
Someone already did that with boothil, but they got striked and the channel got deleted. Robin wins by 1 cycle
@@Yoru...I miss chevvy bros..
@@ce4689 my headcanon is that cornflake is chevvy new account
@@Fat_Ruckeryeah but chevvy was quite toxic with the thumbnails😅 Hes the og robin propagandist.when everyone was glazing ruanmei He made me grateful for pulling robin
@@Yoru... Bruh Idk one of the rm meatrider was TH-cam employee😂
Harmony dissing wont end because trailblazers dont learn lol
That's why I skipped E1 RM on my account, to make my E0S0 blade stronger. She brings nothing to my account with Blade, Seele, Acheron, Ratio and Boothill (but he already destroy physical weak). Robin, on the other hand, can significantly improve my account.
Ruan Mei E2, E4, and E6 are backloaded compared to Robin (all of this eidolon need you to break enemy thoughness first). It's still dmg increase for your DPS as long as they don't "bruteforce" element (except break team or E6 Acheron/Feixiao). Very different with E1S1 Robin especially if you use her with AF buffer like Bronya so you can make her dmg more frontloaded at the start of rotation.
Also if your DPS has "enough" dmg to 0 cycle the first wave, your Bronya basically will get 3 turn (4 turn for some team) for the first concerto state of Robin. It's even crazier if you can get Robin ult uptime for the second wave with some factor like RNG enemy hit, char hit (mostly FuA char), or Galla with qpq LC.
But I'm still impressed with this run because I can see by myself how strong is E1S1 Robin actually. Good showcase btw.
fair reminder than dhil has the highest toughness dmg of all the crit carries so this is about as good as it's gonna get for rm
@@hachira ehhh did you heard about boothil... or think is to much for you?
@@claudiowiseman8488 "Crit carries"
@@claudiowiseman8488 "think is too much for you"
Lmao also boothil is basically only break atp
@@yoyododo9234 bro forgot about Hybrid build
i know RM is broken and all that, got a copy myself but never even used her on any hard content lmao
I just hope people stopped glazing her like, i see her on my trending tab every fucking week i even ended up blacklisting it
I mean what's the point of this showcase? Outside of the Break team course Robin would be better this isn't a new thing we've known this for a while the Team wide AF is broken in EG content.
The point is that a Robin E6 can carry any team independent if his break or super break, because she's busted in her own damage. Ruan Mei in comparasion cannot carry a team with her Own damage at E6 outside break teams.
Yeah well some people say tuan mei is better everywhere else which is just wrong
I see a lot of people saying Ruan Mei is the best unit ever in HSR and top 1 must pull meanwhile Robin is not even in top 5 must pulls which is really crazy.
You're absolutely right, the point is that a lot of people insist Ruan Mei is better everywhere so the point of this showcase is to show that that isn't the case. You'd be surprised how many people need to see this to understand it.
@@xo8677 the ruan mei glazing is insane
Well now I have ANOTHER reason to pull Robin, my dhil team.
Honestly in turn based game
It’s always been a racing speed game as someone’s comment i read long ago
Robin’s ability to advance the whole team by 100% is great enough
(And in apocalyptic gamemode thing terms is a whole team actions with no action points deducted)
Her E1 being 1% off from ruan mei’s level 10 ultimate,
E2 offering 16% speed boost
And just being a harmony that can do damage (TONS of them)
E4 being the same as with aventurine’s eff res shield (stack them both and your team’s basically immune to control effects or effects of any kind)
E6 makes her the main carry
Robin is just that good, and the more you invest in her (eidolons, LC), she’s better.
As long as there’s no weird ass non-attack scaling meta in the future, she’s here to stay.
And also, as a day 1 ruan mei lover (yes, i pulled her on her first day; not thinking much of how problematic she is considering the Swamps thing and the unethical mindset she has when doing experiments and the bio shenanigans)
And yes, i dont know of the break meta to come too.
So i just pulled cause, fuxuan can sustain a 2 dps team, and i love that we get a team wide harmony buffer.
I love her still. 3 turns ultimate. Comfortable even outside of break team
3/4 star lightcone works perfectly fine
This is what i think of when i read/say Ruanmei is “universal” and easy to use.
No doubts that with the release of Robin, she seems not as good outside of break team.
But to me, i love them both.
One for each side
Just as i do with Aventurin and Fuxuan (now gallagher) with sustains choices
So i dont get it with the fan wars in the comments like they’re both so good and even broken when going TOGETHER (like i tried a Harmony trinity team in Divergent universe and feat Jade and it’s hilarious how much damage robin and jade can pump out)
So yea
To your point of the non attack scalers, we saw her zero cycle with blade who’s attack scaling is more or lesss non existent. So I think she’s here to stay even IF you have non attack scalers
Glad pulled rubin first then ruan mei
Robin beautiful
How about Robin E6S1 vs Ruan mei E6S1 in break team?
There is a reason why he's not playing break team and putting bronya with ruan mei is just useless 😂
@@Izumi144Both teams will 0 cyclez that's the answer. But for Robin's team, you can completely remove the break dps and It'll make no difference
@@Yoru... That's what they did in this video ruan mei is a specific break support with some other perks but can you say the same about Robin in a firefly team not to mention rappa is around the corner and we currently have only 1 dps (firefly) who can properly use ruan mei
@@Izumi144Yeah, and I'm saying that completely removing firefly in the superbreak team with robin will still 0 cycle
@@Yoru... You should visit a doctor
Damn Ruan Fraud just cant stop losing 🗿
E1 Robin is actually really good with Blade, feels very similar to my RM even though the 1000+ ATK boost won't affect Blade anywhere close to how it effects an ATK scaller, + the Extra damage goes really well with Blade.
and the RM havers be like "The Fairest Comparison is comparing both with Firefly"
Perfect run with The best girlfriend ❤Robin❤ 😊
aint no way
Jiaoqiu got released, when can we expect a pull video E6S5 one?
Ruan Mei, Robin and Sparkle are all very strong characters in certain situations and definitely worth their investment. Although lc and Robin's eidolons are stronger than Ruan Mei's
People acting suprise that a support with a teamwide action adv is better at low cycling 😂
RM’s eidolons past E1 provide next to no amp also Robin is a crit support so Blade & DHIL aren’t “neutral” damage dealers here #stopthehate
no, robin is most specifically a FUA support while ruan mei is a break support. no one here uses fua other than blade but his fua is only 25-30% of his total damage. ruan mei glazers used to say "but she's universal and can be used in any team!!!" so doesn't this apply to that as well?
who do you consider a neutral dps for a fair comparison?
So RM is not as universal as people said?
@@Sampoforeverrrr i mean i do agree robin is better in all crit comps i just don’t stand for mother mei hate lol. she’s still universal there’s just teams where robin is better
@@cornflakebutsilly dot cuz it benefits from break and has fuas so they synergyze with both supports
OH-
Don't end her like that
I'm now interested to see who clears faster in E6 Ruan Mei in superbreak team or E6 Robin in Fua Team.
that will be unfair, Robin e6 is broken lol, getting 100k-400k dmg per FuA will end any content fast
There's dozen of 0av clear on AS with robin and... So little with ruan mei
@@nicotorres12 it's not that unfair.. they're literally in their highest potential with their best teammates.. and since ruan mei's eidolons arent that good but with Break oriented teams, i don't see anything putting any of them at their disadvantage.
@@Kai-hq4ss and Im saying Ruan Mei will be blown out of the water even w/ her best team xD. Robin is a dps at e6, a very strong one
@@nicotorres12fair point... E6 Robin is a HARMony wwww
Cornflake I love your videos but isnt this comparison fairly pointless because:
-Other than maybe E2 (Which is both situational and also boosts atk so it does not benefit blade), Ruan Mei's Eidolons do literally nothing for anyone other than Break Team and maybe DOT.
I get the point you are trying to put across Robin better but this is just and E1 Robin vs E1 Ruan mei comparison in one team where Robin is clearly better and another where it is more even in terms of playing field and got the same clear.
robin's massive atk steroid doesn't benefit blade as well
@@cheesycake455 Within their base kits:
- Ruan Mei gives 68% dmg
- Robin give 50% dmg and 20% unconditional CD and 25% CD to his FUA (FUA Gets 45% CD).
Even ignoring the ATK from her ult Robin would still be the better support for him just off the basis off how much DMG% blade overcaps on ( 40% from skill, 20% to FUA Major Trace ) on top of the Buffs to his FUA
You clearly didn't get the point of the video then. The point is that E1 Robin IS universal, while Ruan Mei is not, she is only better on break teams.
Mate if even blade (hp scaler) is better with robin (atk buffer) compared to ruan mei (universal buffer) then where even is ruan mei better aside from break teams?@@hypemaddox
@@devildante9 I agree with that I just find this video is a bit disingenous by using a DPS like Blade and pretty much doomposting by using Ruan Mei E6 that practically does nothing outside of break.
It just serves no purpose than making ruan mei sound useless when they are still the 2 best units in the game and they could have just done the E1 vs E1 with DHIL to pass the point across.
Ruan Meis biggest value is honestly you just place her on a team and call it quits no optimisation no nothing. Robin has a higher ceiling but Ruan Meis is an ease of use queen which for most ppl is a pretty big factor.
im a true xipe follower i pulled for both of them and sparkle 😘
and i will pull all new harmony since that is my life now
Robin is too broken. 100% action advance of all team is just broken
Im confused what people are complaing about blade personal damage was significantly greater than robin, the thing robin did was work in tandem with bronya to give blade a smany turns as possible. Yh its a zero cycle but one that massively realises on bronya robin synergy. Robins surport to the entire entire is better than ruan mei but the damage blade was dishing iut was greater on ruan meis side??? Ppl need to chill.😊
Should i pull for robin or jiaoqiu for my acheron?
I only use E1 Acheron, E6 pela, and E6 gallagher,
I need to choose one of them because of limited stellar jades left + now saving for acheron E2
acheron's best team right now is with robin + jiaoqiu + aventurine, so losing either robin or jiaoqiu will both lead to decreased performance for her. Jiaoqiu is a better addition to acheron team especially if she is struggling in PF, while robin provides more value to your entire account. Personally i would pick robin as she can do well in other team unlike jiaoqiu is pretty much stuck with acheron.
@@fkyolo8573 Robin is borderline unplayable in Jiaoqiu-less Acheron teams. The reason she is viable at all in Acheron teams is because Jiaoqiu does the heavy lifting for stack generation, if you take him out of the equation there's a much heavier burden on the second support slot to generate stacks for Acheron and SW or even Black Swan/e6 Gui will outperform her here. Acheron/Robin's best sustain is also QPQ Gallagher not Aventurine (unless you're in very fast aoe heavy fights like Hoolay, in which case Aventurine is a sufficient battery) and even then you have to gamble on QPQ rng to go into Robin instead of Acheron.
The fact that you're prioritising Robin over Jiaoqiu specifically for Acheron teams, and you're suggesting Aventurine over Gallagher, suggests to me you've never actually tried playing the Ach/Robin team and played through its strengths and weaknesses.
if you are getting e2 then get robin. jiaoqiu is a better pela (well he is a way better pela) but robin is a better improvement to the team than jiaoqiu is what i am trying to say
This comment section is Chernobyl. Holy fuck.
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100% AA to all party is just too broke bro
I recently pulled sparkle and now i have ruan mei, robin and sparkle. I am 100% going for robin lc next because it provides soooooooo much buffs then her f2p ones. Also gonna try for e1
Get e1 first, then s1
Now compare E6 Robin and e0 Ruanmei with firefly.
Robin gaps hard. She'll be doing 80% of the team dmg
Meat riding robin @@Yoru...
@@Ashito_Kiyokuni prove otherwise? There's already tons of e0 robin 0 cycle with no dps, imagine e6
@@Yoru... yeah lmao..robin 0 cycles with no dps at e0, at e6 she gonna be doing more damage than ff
I just want e2 bronya but yanqing and bailu always fuck upy 5050 and no luck on standard. Stuck at e1s1 😢
why debate which harmony is better? just get them all three lmao
Ok ok lads, so what’s a good point for stopping in terms of eidolons and lc for Robin. Asking for a friend 😂
E1S1
Just E6S5
E1S1, but if you have the event Lc I think going for E1 only is good if you want to save
e1 is super op, e2 is decent. e6 is super super super op/ ftp go for e1
e1 > s1 > e2
imo e1 is the best bang for your buck but keep in mind that her personal dmg will be a lot lower without sig. e1s1 if u have the jades without whaling would be peak
after e1 ruan mei eidolons basically do nothing other than for break team
So this showcase is more like an e1 rm showcase honestly, well tbf i also do see some of e6 ruan mei break damage here like that shit deals 180k damage came from aventurine that break the enemy
Rm rn feels more like a focus harmony for break team honestly
@@yulianaqsa1093 Yes. Robin is more universal.
Can you pls do acheron team with the comparison of jiaoqiu e1s0 vs e0s1
Ruan mie Eidolons are baseline useless outside of a break team so what's the point Are we trying to get to ?
That Robin is better than Ruan Mei in most team, other than break comp. Yes, even DoT comp.
lmfaoooooooo
I'm convinced now that the creater has some kind of beef with ruan me😂 he never once used her in break effect team or dot team or any other team that actually needs ruan mai😅
@suzain_769 yeah, her e2 isnt even taken advantage of here, e4 is bad anyway, it just seems like the creator wants to make her look bad, because even only with e1 mei he would have gotten a 1 cycle clear for sure maybe even 0
nah,he use her in dot againts sparkle and robin they all have the same clear
@@zzzy1934 if i really wanted to do that i would've posted the 3 cycle blade clear with E1 RM :D
@@cornflakebutsillymr 8 cycles turns into mr 3 cycles what an improvement! 🗣️🔥
@@MoroseImpulsehow tf even sparkle work in dot team? Did you mean jq?
Ruan mei supporting mid blade, lol lmao even might as well have put in arlan
Jsyk i have rm but i plan on getting robin e1 if possible but ngl gang thats likely not gonna happen as the start of jiaqoui patch i have 10 pulls and Robin is tye next rerun in feixia path but im guaranteed tho
The thing is: From the very beginning, Robin has been on the upper hand in terms of buffing the damage and maneuvering the battle, BUT i understand the reason why Ruan Mei is still considered the best Harmony compared to Robin is because of her accessibility and comfort for all type of players there is.
The general scenario to compare both value is at E0S0. At E0S0 Ruan Mei can already be considered complete since there's no certain caviat that you need to cover with eidolons and/or sign LC. Meanwhile, in my opinion and based on many different testings by various (unbiased) CC, it's imperative to point out that outside of FuA team, E0S0 Robin will have trouble maintaining her Ult uptime (which is where her true power is unlocked behind). E0S0 Robin will most likely be a tad more difficult to run and set up than Ruan Mei, especially for newer players. With S1, i do think Robin is complete and is comparable if not better than E0S0 Ruan Mei. Thus, the exact reason why Ruan Mei is more universal, accessible, and is preferred by any type of players, in any team, and any content (be it for Endgame or for newbies) and is considered the better harmony.
So yeah, i do think this video is to hype up Robin's fans 😂. She is indeed better at minimum E0S1 (at E1 she's even better and even more universal) compared to E0S0/E0S1 Ruan Mei as a damage buffer. Not to mention, RM ediolons outside of E1 is quite meh IMO. So i really see no point of comparing E6S1 RM and E1S1 Robin where all that truly matters is how both perform at E0S0 and both are proven good, but i can see RM is generally more preferred. Also, this is not including other factors such as utility and added value that both characters offer.
Never know that comfortability is the matric for character to be the best
then u could argue that blade is better than dhil bc comfy
just buy qpq om
@@rezaabiyoso1855 yeah, also like robin is easy to use? Like if u find robin hard to use than ur are doing smthign wrong.
I just came to see the video so idk why everyone is fighting like just get both I did that RM E1 and LC and Robin Sadly E0 but aiming for E1 no LC tho
what is the best premium team for DHIL today ?
Probably IL, Sparkle/TY/Hanya, Robin, sustain. But I always use Sparkle because she is E1S0 and has high investment on her relic (169 spd wind set S5 DDD). I tried to change my Sparkle to TY or Hanya once. It's around 1 cycle different interm of clear time. So I think the gap should be really close if she's just E0S0.
Thank you so much
Is Robin better than TY ?
IL, Sparkle, Robin and sustain... Or IL, Sparkle , ty , sustain
@@IIvIIaxiimusIIvIIinimus IL, Sparkle, Robin, Sustain. I always use Huo Huo for sustain to minimize Robin ult downtime. You maybe confused about how is the SP. But you can "control" your IL so you can save SP and release his 3 sp enhance basic atk in Robin concerto state. You just need to think a little bit if you wanna use this team.
@@IIvIIaxiimusIIvIIinimus Oh, I forgot to mention something important. TY, Hanya, Sparkle will always use DDD as their BiS there.
@@hirasawayui8783 Nice , TKS !!
Mr youtuber if you can, lets settle this by having E1 RM on a break team vs E6 Robin since Blade and Dhil advantage more Robin if we reverse the role we should end up with result similar to this video.
Blade is biased for Robin? The hp scaler is biased towards the attack buffer?? Are you hearing yourself?
Trust me you don't wanna see E1 Robin vs E6 Ruan Mei in a followup team either lmao
@@ducklet0 Hey look at the comment section I aint thinking that but other seems to think it so I proposed a way to calm everyone down 🤷♂️🤷♂️ You think idk how the results would go 😂
Ruan Mei simps try not to shift the goalposts challenge (impossible)
@@ducklet0 lmao blades fua that does like 10% of his damage in 3 target scenarios, its literally nothing.
Why tf is ruan mai here i mean isn't she good for break teams and dot teams why are we using blade with her who is a kind of a follow up unit wtaf is this comparison for
To compare e6 ruan mei vs e1 robin, seeing if at e6 ruan mei can beat robin in a blade team or if robin can that's what the comparison is for and for dhil
As much i love ruan mei,some player said ruan mei better than robin in all aspect
Anyway they both good and solo all charachter ❤
cause everyones saying how shes no1 support in every set up when thats just wrong which includes follow up and hypercarry
Ok, now let's try E6 Robin vs E1 RM on break and DOT teams hahaha
@Lupper0205 thats because robin has better eidolons, rm eidolons except e1 are mid
As a haver of both at E0, I clearly use Ruan Mei more💀🙏🔥 (it's not that I hate Robin, I just use my Break team more often now + no fua team + I use Sparkle for Acheron) so yeah Robin absolutely got benched💀
Wow, there is so much hate comments. This entire comparasion is meme. I thought it's obvious but -
Robin is best at zero cycling, always (except break team in most cases), her ultimate busted and "extending" it through wave change even more busted.
For non-fua team Ruan Mei is often stronger in longer fights (2-3+ cycles), uptime of her buffs is consistent in all teams, she doesnt depend from how much hits she take and she can generate more sp over time.
It's really cool to look on "shiny 0 cycles" which most players dont even do and compare characters on it, in reality their "value" is almost same and mostly depends from their signature teams (break and fua) where they have most value.
nope. outside of 0 cycles robin is still better.
I don't think this proved much ... The reason Ruan Mei is considered universal is because even though she is not a crit/Fua support, she is still decent in whatever team she replaces Robin in, but the other way around is not true. Ruan Mei in Robin's spot does a lot better than Robin in a break team, so technically, Ruan Mei is more universal. So basically, the difference is : A bunch of decent teams + a BIS team (Ruan Mei in break) vs a bunch of BIS teams + a terrible team (Robin in break)
The amount of teams Robin is BIS in has increased since she was released, but technically, RM is still universal because she is BIS in break teams and decent compared to Robin in the others. Skipping Robin when she was released is not really that big of a deal because back then because she is rerunning soon. The only problem is if you're still stubborn and believe that Ruan Mei is better than Robin in those teams specifically
but what exactly are the teams robin can't be used in? this person just proved that you can use robin with blade who is a hp scaler. it's not like robin can't be used with break too when she's amazing with boothill just for the action advance alone. ruan mei isn't as optimal in yunli clara/counter comps just like robin is in break no? genuinely asking here
The ONLY team that doesn't get benefit from Robin is just Firefly super break team. Not because Robin is bad, it is just the Firefly team is too restrictive.
Boothill still gets the benefit of 100% AF from Robin. And for other crit/atk based teams, we already know that Robin is superior than RM
@@rezaabiyoso1855 also ruan mei is worse than e0 march 7th hunt in clara and yunli teams, but in break, robin is def better than some f2p options (especially in boothill, where sometimes using robin is more worthn than rm for action advance)
Call me a Rm fan or anyway you want but the fact that a break support still helps a crit dps by a lot is already impressive. What about you try to put robin in a firefly team 🤡
this is more for the "ruan mei is more universal than robin" people, not the "ruan mei is a break support" people
oh i thought ruan mei was a universal support my bad :(
she became a "break support" like 2 patches ago
lay off the copium man. nearly 6 months of rm clowns yapping about how broken and universal she is even after robin's release and she's only a break support because that's the only niche left for her to fill up. once the next break efficiency supp is out she's going on the perma bench on ff teams and maaaaaaaaaaybe will still have a slot in bh teams if he doesnt run bronya
also remind me how her 68+24 dmg% buffing break teams
sure! E6 robin with e1 RM in ff team. Yeah! robin doesn't already 0 cycle at e0 without dps
ok e6 robin vs e1 rm in firefly team. Too bad firefly wont be able to shine since the enemy is already dead.
Also isn't ur precious rm supposed to be universal? If she is so universal stop complaining about bad comparison?
Also in break, boothill has a higher ceiling is is often used with robin.
Also, in fua the difference is between rm and robin is similar to the difference in break
"Wow A cRit sUpPort iS bEttEr thAn thE BreAk SuppOrt iN a cRit DpS"
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OmG THE "UnIvERsaL" SupPOrt Rm CaN OnLy wOrk WiTh 2 ChaRacteRs!
I don’t get it. They both 0 cycled.
Are you mentally backward? Look at their eidolons lmao
this entire comment section is a backlash to the ruan mei glazers who trashed on robin as a sidegrade back in 2.2, and while i don't blame robin fans for being pissed (i almost didn't pull for her because i already had ruan mei), i'm ngl... they're doing too much with the whole fraud mei bit 😭 like okay!! i'm convinced!! i was gonna save for e1 ruan mei but i'll pull e1 robin now!! jesus!!
also, it just doesn't look good when an e1 character can 0-cycle the same as an e6 character, but i dunno. i'm still on team ruan mei despite not agreeing with her glazers, mainly because -i think ruan mei's prettier- her playstyle is so unga bunga that it's near impossible to fuck up, whereas robin takes ever so slightly more brainpower to use. that being said, robin's e1 doing so well is more of a testament to how it's the most broken eidolon in the game, rather than ruan mei being a significantly """worse""" character. both are good
I'm not even an rm truther but this video is just garbage... Like what are you even trying to say??? We know Robin is usually a better crit dps amp and we also all know e1-6 rm provides VERY little extra amp beyond e1. This is just a dumb premise
it just proves that robin is the better harmony support, cause she is more universal.
Why change the sustain on Robin, isn't Aventurine can use the FUA better and contribute a bit more dmg? Is it bc energy issues that u have to change to a healer for quid pro quo?
Yeah, without Gallagher abusing QPQ it won't be possible to fill Robin's energy so she can ult again after finishing the first one.
And that is the tricky part since QPQ is RNG unless only Robin has below 50% energy when Gallagher turn comes around, and in Feixiao/Acheron team the QPQ can always land on them instead since the system considers them having 0 energy even at full stacks, wasting the QPQ effect.
Какие гениальные тесты, сравнивать персонажа, баффающего эффект пробития, и персонажа, баффающего атк. Автор, а че на светляке не сравнил, а только на удобных себе персонажах? Еще и впридачу самое главное не написал - турбулентность. Какой же мусорный канал я в шоке. Ноль объективности.
как же я забыл гениальнейший свап сустейнеров. Провести нормальный тест, чтобы был один и тот же сустейнер? Не, зачем, мы будем менять сустейнеров, чтоб люди сидели калькулировали демедж от руки галлакхера и фу суань и смотрели покрывает(превосходит) ли небольшой бафф фу суань в виде хп и крит шанса урон от ульты галлахера.
Does this dude know that e2 to e6 is only for break? XD salemans brain cant put his things
and? her eidolons are not universal? rm should get penalized for that since isn't she so "UnIVeRSal"
@@yoyododo9234 her eidolons are only For break aside from E1 Robin isnt going to deal the same dmg in E6 with Hook than with feixiao/topaz/ratio still can work yeah but is not the same in this vid they this was mostly was a E1vsE1
@@claudiowiseman8488 No the fact the the supposed "universal" support has niche eidolons is not good. (no everybody says how universal rm is). Ruan mei has one eidolon that helps besides break. All of robins eidolons are good outside of fua tho.
Also I think you are discrediting how truly op robins eidolons (besides 4) are.
@@yoyododo9234 E4 isnt good tho, pretty sure 5 chars doesnt want Robin e6 over RM e1 also robin E6 isn't that strong alone in E6 is 60k per attk can be buffed but in most scenario isnt the case most of E6 robins showcases use E6 RM and E6 sparkle that doesn't count, you can look for lily alquina to see of much dmg does robin E6 alone or just can test it from a friend so it ppl say that rm is universal bc she he in base kit but from beta eidolon were always for break chars and can say it too youre discrediting how OP RM eidolons are Crack just made a vid a few days ago dealing 1.2m with RM e6 this channes is a robin salemans so is kinda obv is going to make Robins look better always i trust parcial guys no salemas
@@claudiowiseman8488 can you like not read? I literally said BESIDES e4
Ruan mei still better because she's the best support for the best dps firefly 😊
😊😊 and when a trotter appears and hides its break bar, Fireflop is useless
@@qingquedevout lmao as if killing trotter is that crucial. Beside that doesnt really happen outside that one SU occurence.
Firefly needing HMC(MC *will* gain new paths in the future, having Firefly means losing on every next MC path).
@@BailuGaming Seeing both firefly and hmc in one team is worth losing on every other mc path 😊
no Robin is better cause she is more universal. If the character is only the best because of her 1 team then she cannot be the best if the other competitor can be the best with most teams.