Learning from Dying: Buddhist Understandings of Consciousness and Death

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  • Renowned Tibetan Buddhist scholar and Columbia University Professor Robert A.F. Thurman is joined in conversation by his colleague Isa Gucciardi and UCSF's Eve Ekman and David Bullard. They explore Buddhist understandings about consciousness and death. [12/2017] [Show ID: 32673]
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  • @MrElicottero
    @MrElicottero 5 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    I love the way he talks. Not only is he a smart guy, the joy that he emits is just contagious. You can tell he loves what he does.

  • @invokingvajras
    @invokingvajras 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Mr. Thurman is very passionate about the Buddha Dharma. That alone is praiseworthy. A full understanding of the Dharma is a process that takes many lifetimes.

  • @Queenie-the-genie
    @Queenie-the-genie 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I find Thurman’s teachings so helpful. I know he loves to talk but what he says is so valuable to me!

  • @NoMoreHate.
    @NoMoreHate. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    That was awesome. I'm searching for truth many years. Religion has failed me. The fear of western death ideology has depressed me. I just by chance ran into this site just kinda clicking through vids indescriminately on you tube not really knowing where to look but After hearing this a little I was very intrigued and stayed for the whole talk. I'm on way to purchase the book Man of ✌️

    • @jenswohlgemuth6961
      @jenswohlgemuth6961 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You cant try talks by Ajahn Brahm he is an exeptional teacher. You might enjoy him. Like Robert Thurman his teaching style is very entertaining too.

  • @krishanieWeera
    @krishanieWeera 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Beautiful to listen. Thank you!

  • @EtudianteAviendah
    @EtudianteAviendah 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thank you all so much for this conversation! What a joy to find that the transformation seen in Bill Murray's character in the "Groundhog Day" movie is not only admirable socially, but also the most amazing Buddhist philosophy presented in an enjoyable format for education of uninitiated (and speaking for myself, very ignorant) humans. Love and blessings to all. Namasté

  • @kencarey3477
    @kencarey3477 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    He is awsome! Very insightful. Budda wisdom

  • @em-dy3hn
    @em-dy3hn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    May Bob Thurman have a long healthy life!

  • @Merle1987
    @Merle1987 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I always find his talks really soothing. He sounds like a cheerful young nerd.

  • @chriscrosbymusic
    @chriscrosbymusic 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    “Buddhism has the characteristics of what would be expected in a cosmic religion for the future: It transcends a personal God, avoids dogmas and theology; it covers both the natural and spiritual; and it is based on a religious sense aspiring from the experience of all things, natural and spiritual, as a meaningful unity.

  • @laurakelly631
    @laurakelly631 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Such a brilliant, insightful and fun teacher!

  • @josac8
    @josac8 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you very much for this content.

  • @susanwoodward7485
    @susanwoodward7485 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Resonance, reflection, relationship, reality. Love Robert Thurman.

    • @hurstjames6199
      @hurstjames6199 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hello how're you doing hope you're safe over there?

  • @pureone26
    @pureone26 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks, really great.

  • @Daisypetal100
    @Daisypetal100 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I watched another video of Robert Thurman and he has a great sense of humor. I like his spirituality. I believe in reincarnation and past lives too.

    • @TheWorldTeacher
      @TheWorldTeacher 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      🐟 09. REINCARNATION (OR NOT):
      Just as there is NOTHING about an individual person (neither any particle of matter, nor any mental object whatsoever) which remains intact from conception till death, there is NOTHING about the individual person (that is, the “ego”, as defined in the following chapter) which transfers to another body after death, except, perhaps, habitual tendencies in the form of indelible mental impressions (“vāsanā”, in Sanskrit).
      For example, in my present incarnation, I have a strong affinity for the culture of Bhārata (India), a highly-advanced intellectual capacity, a very slim body, and an attraction to a frugivorous diet. That suggests there was an Indian spiritual master in the previous century which had some (or perhaps, even all) of these characteristics, but it was not “ME”, since what I am now is this ever-mutable Australian-born Aryan gentleman.
      These “subtle mind impressions” are known in psychology as the “collective unconscious”, in new-age spirituality as the “akashic records”, and in Islam as the “Preserved Tablet”. There is an abundance of evidence that humans are born with certain psycho-emotive links to previous persons, times and places. It is far beyond the purview of this document to list such evidences. As mentioned, in my case, I have an EXTREMELY strong association with all things Indian, despite not being of Indian origin, and the “collective unconscious” hypothesis seems to be the best explanation for this bond currently available, in my opinion (although the term “collective conscious” would, perhaps, be more accurate).
      For the popular view of reincarnation to be plausible, there would need to be an entity or an OBJECT called a “soul” (“jīva” or “ātman”, in Sanskrit), which somehow finds a copulating couple, then enters the woman’s uterus, to inhabit a zygote.
      Assuming the existence of an individual spiritual soul is profoundly illogical, because spirit is (by most definitions) the antithesis of finite matter. Therefore, how can an immaterial “soul” be confined to a single person’s body?
      It seems rather strange to believe that the universe was organized naturalistically in such a manner as to recycle an object called a “soul”, or even to recycle minds, particularly when one understands that a mind is naught but a series of flickering thoughts, feelings, images, and memories. Some believe that the “thing” which transfers to the next incarnation are the remnants of one's actions (“vāsanā” or “saṃskāra”, in Sanskrit) or at least one's psychological disposition (likes, dislikes, phobias, etcetera). This is far closer to the idea of the collective unconscious, and even if it is a perfectly accurate account of what occurs after death, it still cannot give substance to the notion of a SEPARATE individual which is travelling from one body to another and again to another (“saṃsāra”, in Sanskrit).
      According to the law of conservation of energy, first proposed and tested by Émilie du Châtelet, energy can neither be created nor destroyed; rather, it can only be transformed or transferred from one form to another. Both this law, and Dr. Leonard Susskind's minus-first law of physics, states that energy/information is indestructible.
      The analogy of one candle being lit by another candle is apt. Are the two flames the same flame or completely different flames? According to those laws, PART of the energy is transferred from one wick to the other wick, a portion of the energy is released by the flame, and part of the energy remains with the original candle.
      Regarding reincarnation, a rather appropriate analogy could be that of a whirlpool in a stream of liquid. A whirlpool is a definite form within a river but, just like the human form itself, it is never static. Some water molecules which were once swirling within one whirlpool may move farther downstream, mix with other water particles, and form a new, distinct whirlpool.
      So, in my particular case, it is eminently possible that a vast amount of “Indian energy” was transferred to my psyche from one or more persons from Bhārata (the proper name of the country), plus the addition of genetic matter from my Persian parents and their Aryan heritage. The fact that BOTH Iranians and North Indians are Aryan seems to add further credence to my hypothesis, even if to a small degree.
      Of course, there is no conclusive proof for such types of claims at this stage in human history, but the evidence is certainly extant, and as mentioned, the profusion of evidence available goes far beyond the purview of this document. One ought to do one's own thorough research into the matter, rather than relying on anecdotal testimonies. There are several well-documented books and videos published on the subject.
      There is not the slightest doubt in my mind that my essential nature has NOT transferred from one body to another body, because I have fully understood and realized, by practicing the four systems of yoga/religion described in Chapter 16, that my true nature is Brahman (see Chapters 06 & 10 to learn of the Real Self). There is no such thing as a “soul” or “spirit”, unless, of course, one defines those words to mean the subject (that is, the observer of all temporal phenomena), and logically, the subject cannot be an object, at least in the transactional sphere.
      When I die, my physical body, composed of the five gross material elements (“sthūla-śarīra”, in Sanskrit), will be reabsorbed into the biosphere, whilst the non-tangible aspect of my body, composed of the three subtle material elements (“sūkṣma śarīra”, in Sanskrit), will possibly merge with the collective unconscious, and the story of my life will come to an end FOREVER. See Chapter 05 regarding the eight elemental groups. It seems likely, judging by the evidence, that the “vāsanā” of a deceased person may transfer to more than a single individual. That explains why there are so many persons at once claiming to be the reincarnation of certain famous personalities.
      The fact that human life ends at death is difficult for many to accept, since they are thoroughly attached to their pseudo-egos, their intellects, their minds, their bodies, their loved-ones, and their possessions. However, when one realizes that one is not an ever-mutating, psycho-physical organism, but, essentially, never-changing, all-pervasive, peaceful, formless AWARENESS (“Brahman”, in Sanskrit), all fear is alleviated.
      The only “thing” remaining of a person at the time of death is the only “thing” which has ever “existed” - Pure Unalloyed Awareness, or Eternal-Conscious-Peace (“sacchidānanda”, in Sanskrit). We do not normally dread the dreamless portions of our nightly sleep cycles, so why would we fear a more permanent period of existence similar to deep-sleep? This existential crises is the basis of most all angst and uneasiness. So, fear not - death is a normal, NATURAL, and even a necessary consequence of conception. That which has a beginning, surely must end.
      Putting aside whether or not reincarnation is an accurate account of what happens in this world, it is ABSOLUTELY certain that we receive a completely new body approximately every seven years (via a gradual process, of course). Our first body was a microscopically-sized zygote and our present body is several kilograms heavier. From where has all that extra weight come? Obviously, it came from all the nutrients that we have absorbed via the umbilical cord in our mother's uterus, or via the food, air and water we have consumed since birth.
      Therefore, one who believes that he is nothing more than the body-mind organism is grossly ignorant of basic biological science. Genetically, approximately half of the cells in the body are not even of human origin, believe it or not! We can all easily understand that our infantile body is completely and utterly different to our present-day form, so logically, our true identity must be something quite APART from it. Nothing, including one’s genetic code, remains constant from conception to death. The sense of self does not even make its appearance in our psyche until two or three years after conception. Therefore, a person is more accurately defined as a process (a verb), rather than an object (a noun).
      Cont...

    • @TheWorldTeacher
      @TheWorldTeacher 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      For the sake of philosophical IMPARTIALITY, it is germane to acknowledge the perspectives of other eminent pundits. E.g. In “Bhagavad-gītā”, one of the very greatest spiritual authorities the world has ever known, Lord Śri Krishna, uses the analogy of how the individual person (“ego”, in Latin, or “jīvātman”, in Sanskrit) travels through the various stages of life (that is, from childhood, to pubescent adulthood, to geriatric), with His description of the process of reincarnation, as conceived by the ancient seers (“ṛṣi” [rishi], in Sanskrit) of India (“Bhārata”, in Sanskrit).
      “...each person is destined to die once...”
      Anonymous (possibly Paul of Tarsus),
      Letter to the Hebrews, 9:27.
      N.B. Ironically, the author of the above letter was a close disciple (or at least a follower) of Lord Jesus of Nazareth, who, according to the New Testament portion of the Judeo-Christian holy book, raised his acquaintance, Lazarus, from the dead. Logically speaking, Lazarus must surely have died more than one time, as did the many dead persons who were supposedly raised from their graves at the crucifixion of Lord Jesus.
      Assuming that Paul was the author of the Letter to the Hebrews, he himself even raised a young man from the dead (although, in that case, the man, Eutychus, was dead for only a very short period of time, so it was likely that he was merely unconscious, rather than fully deceased).
      OBVIOUSLY, the writer means that, generally speaking, each individual person is destined for one life alone, as opposed to any alternative scenario such as reincarnation. Yet, as we now know, humans beings are not stable objects, but ever-mutating processes of mind and matter.
      “The entity that is supposed to be reincarnated in another body, does not even itself exist, except as a concept!
      How can a mere concept be reborn?”
      *************
      “When you are dead, you will be back in the primordial state of rest, which existed before you were born; that stillness before all experience.
      It is only the false sense of a limited, separate 'me', that deprives life of its meaning and gives death an ominous significance, which it really does not have.”
      *************
      “The fear of death, is actually a product of the desire to perpetuate one's identity. Were you not dead before you were born?
      Those who know Reality, know the falsehood of life and death.”
      *************
      “What is born, must in due course, die.
      The objective body, will thereafter be dissolved and irrevocably annihilated.
      What was once a sentient being, will be destroyed, never to be reborn.
      But consciousness is not objective - not a thing at all.
      Therefore, consciousness is neither born nor dies, and certainly cannot be 'reborn'.”
      Ramesh S. Balsekar,
      Indian Spiritual Teacher.
      “Who are those persons who pass away leaving the ‘I’ intact? What exactly passes away leaving the ‘I’ intact? It is a body and its corollary, the world, that pass away. That is, particular sensations and perceptions disappear. That is all we can be sure of. However, sensations and perceptions are disappearing all the time.
      The ‘I’ is not a body. The ‘I’ is a thought that identifies awareness with a body. The ‘I’ passes away every time that thought ceases.
      All we know of death is that certain sensations and perceptions cease. There is no evidence that thinking and imagining cease at death. In fact, there are numerous reports of the mind surviving the death of the body (to go back to conventional language), but no reports of the mind disappearing along with the body.
      And this is exactly what happens when we fall asleep. The thinking, sensing and perceiving that we call the ‘waking state’ dissolve, but their energies leave a subtle residue which in turn arises as new thoughts, images, sensations and perceptions, which we call the ‘dream state’. In other words, a new body, mind and world appear in awareness in the dream state.
      When we wake in the morning, we don’t think ‘Oh, I reincarnated last night’, but in fact we did! That is, awareness took the shape of thinking, imagining, sensing and perceiving, and one of the forms that thinking took was the form of a particular thought that identifies itself, awareness, with one particular sensation called the body. That is reincarnation, to believe oneself to be a body and to seem, as a result, to live in a body.
      Reincarnation simply means to identify with a body. We do it numerous times every day, not just once a lifetime. And every time we disidentify with a particular body-mind we die as that apparent entity and realise ourself as awareness.
      This process continues in the waking state as well as the dream state, only this time we take it for real rather than as a dream. But during the dream itself, the appearance of a body and a world seemed equally real as the waking-state body and world. We have no way of knowing from within the waking state whether or not it is a dream, just as we have no way of knowing from within the dream itself whether or not the dream is real.
      However, we are not in the waking state any more than we are in a dream. We are awareness, and the waking state appears in us, as does the dream state. There is no difference, from the point of view of reality, if such can be said to have a point of view, between the waking and dream states. They are both appearances in awareness and made only out of awareness.
      In other words, neither incarnation nor reincarnation ever really happens. They just seem to happen. Therefore they never really cease to happen. They just seem to cease. The experience of love, peace, or happiness is the experience of the cessation of the dream of incarnation.”
      Rupert Spira,
      English Spiritual Teacher.

    • @BryceDAnderson1952
      @BryceDAnderson1952 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheWorldTeacher in the end, it is just your opinion. They still don't know how the pyramids were built. I disagree with your thoughts, I have my own path. Happy landing!

  • @JesseNickelltheFourth
    @JesseNickelltheFourth 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm a fan of Robert!

  • @dennispena5496
    @dennispena5496 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The root of anger is fear, not frustration. Frustration is just part of the symptoms of anger. The ego is in fear.... the human being gets lost in the mind--the ego, thus fear becomes their biggest motivator. Fear manifests in anger and then hate. Triggered first by the ego.

    • @williamding2910
      @williamding2910 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The root of anger is unsatisfactory, not fear.

    • @RumiSupertramp
      @RumiSupertramp 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, there are really only two emotions: fear and love

  • @leslie9423
    @leslie9423 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I’m interested however it’s a bit difficult to watch this video because he seems to jump all over the place.

  • @janeajaya
    @janeajaya 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I actually experienced being no-thing. But not from my relative self. That bubble got burst.

  • @kilifischkopp1442
    @kilifischkopp1442 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I'd love to know his 20 favourite books. Would read em all :) .

  • @from-Texas
    @from-Texas 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Buddhism is the last obstacle towards being a Buddha. The last drop of selfhood

    • @RumiSupertramp
      @RumiSupertramp 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The desire for enlightenment is itself an obstacle to enlightenment

  • @ROGERWDARCY
    @ROGERWDARCY 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    In 1965 I learned that existence is misery but I did not find cessation. I am bitter about it.

    • @josef2012
      @josef2012 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Still work to do....

    • @TheWorldTeacher
      @TheWorldTeacher 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      There are three kinds of PLEASURE, according to the three modes (“trī-guṇa”, in Sanskrit) described in Chapter 18:
      Pleasures in the Mode of PURITY (“sattva guṇa”, in Sanskrit) are those pleasures which seem to be difficult or hazardous in the beginning but turn-out to be sweet or enjoyable in the end. For example, studying medicine for almost a decade in university can be rather stressful and taxing, but once the student graduates and begins his career as a physician, he experiences the pleasure of being a healer to his community and earning a high-income.
      Pleasures in the Mode of PASSION (“rajas guṇa”, in Sanskrit) are those which are enjoyable in the beginning but turn to pain in the end. For instance, most everyone enjoys eating a slice of chocolate cake (or sweet tropical fruit, for those of us who are health-conscious) but the more of it one consumes, the more painful it will become, due to indigestion, bloating, and/or sugar-poisoning.
      Pleasures in the Mode of DARKNESS (“tamas guṇa”, in Sanskrit) are those which are toxic from beginning to end. For example, sleeping is a state of nescience (of daily life) and from the time one falls asleep to the time one awakens, one is prone to being attacked by one's enemies. Over-sleeping often results in lethargy. Smoking tobacco can also be considered tamasic, since ingesting smoke is toxic, and cancer may ensue.
      Humans have FOUR objectives, aims, purposes, or goals in life (“puruṣārtha”, in Sanskrit):
      1. PLEASURE (“kāma”, in Sanskrit) includes all forms of sensual stimulation which provides a positive feeling in the mind of any particular individual. Thus pleasure-seeking is a legitimate aim, provided that it causes no undue harm to another living creature or to the biosphere.
      2. PROSPERITY (“artha”, in Sanskrit) is seeking wealth in the form of real property or money, again, providing it has no detrimental effect on others (in other words, a legitimate means of accumulating wealth). Here, “legitimate” is used in the etymological sense of “lawful”.
      3. RELIGIOSITY (“dharma”, in Sanskrit) signifies behaviours that are considered to be in accord with established universal principles, including duties, laws, morals, virtues, and righteous living. Read Chapters 12 onwards to become acquainted with the principles of religiosity/dharma.
      4. LIBERATION (“mokṣa”, in Sanskrit) is freedom from suffering, as previously defined, and is considered to be the most noble of the four goals. This was traditionally interpreted as emancipation from the cycle of birth and death (“saṃsāra”, in Sanskrit) or soteriology (“going to Heaven”).
      As one goes through childhood, one naturally seeks sensory pleasures. As one enters adulthood, one starts to seek methods of acquiring material wealth, whether that be serving an employer, embarking on a mercantile enterprise, or seeking marriage to a well-to-do suitor. If and when one becomes disillusioned by pleasure and/or wealth, one makes enquiries into self-improvement and religious systems. When none of the former objectives provides the definitive peace and happiness which humans are ultimately seeking, one FINALLY aspires for liberation.
      Of course, there is no reason why ALL four objectives cannot be accomplished simultaneously. A truly-enlightened sage is fully comfortable in seeking pleasure (without going to undue lengths to achieve pleasure, and without being attached to the pleasures themselves), gaining sufficient wealth to meet his material requisites and the needs of his family, engaging in religious festivals and other dharmic activities (even if he has transcended all dogmas and rituals - most persons enjoy partaking in major religious festivities) and, of course, being liberated from the cycle of birth and death (or to be more accurate, from the sense of “doership“, which is, as explained, the origin of all psychological sorrows).
      “The animal does not have to face the kind of problems which oppress man and which are created by the operation of the intellect.
      An animal's sense of consonance and dissonance, affinity and antipathy, is intuitive and in-built as conditioned reflex, rather than subject to the complex interference of ratiocination, by which man is not only aware of his perceptions and actions, but also thinks about them. ”
      *************
      “Pain and pleasure exist for animals, but it is not a problem for them, because the animal does not regret the past pain or fear the future danger. He lives in the NOW of nature. It is only the human being, who concerns himself with imagined opposites, which has a problem.
      There are, in fact, no opposites whatsoever, except as concepts, produced by the imagination.”
      *************
      “It is impossible in life, to have the pleasure that is wanted, without the pain that is not wanted.
      They are, in fact, mutually interdependent, and therefore, inseparable.”
      *************
      “One does not experience suffering - one suffers an experience. One who is aware of his true identity does not and can not suffer.”
      Ramesh Balsekar,
      Indian Spiritual Teacher.
      “Suffering exists, but no sufferer can be found.
      Actions exist, but no doer of actions is there.
      Nirvana exists, but no one who enters it.
      The Path exists, but no traveller can be seen.”
      Venerable Buddhaghosa,
      Visuddhimagga, 513.

    • @hiran4935
      @hiran4935 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not everyone actually understands that. I got into buddhism when I was 21. Only thing I could ever relate to.

  • @alvinware1988
    @alvinware1988 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    So how does this discovery of pig brain cells revived(?) to a life like state after 3 or 4 hours of a death like state?
    Or can somebody refer me to a channel that addresses this topic.

  • @jennifermcbride5009
    @jennifermcbride5009 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Namaste

    • @hurstjames6199
      @hurstjames6199 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hello how're you doing hope you're safe over there?

  • @tenzintomjor1411
    @tenzintomjor1411 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    ❤❤❤❤❤

  • @ronaldlowy877
    @ronaldlowy877 ปีที่แล้ว

    understanding

  • @samtenpalmo9435
    @samtenpalmo9435 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You are very lucky,

  • @jaredwolfe4042
    @jaredwolfe4042 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Buddha said that there are 6 consciousnesses: eye consciousness, ear, nose, tongue, body and intellect consciousness. They arise when there is contact between a sense organ and its respective sense object (forms, sounds, smells, flavors, tactile sensations and ideas). If those conditions are not simultaneously present then that particular consciousness does not arise. There is no consciousness apart from the 6.

  • @DJSTOEK
    @DJSTOEK 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    💘

  • @Enoch420
    @Enoch420 ปีที่แล้ว

    👏👏👏

  • @jamesbarlow6423
    @jamesbarlow6423 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ididn't know Jerry Springer was into Buddhism!

    • @RumiSupertramp
      @RumiSupertramp 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol yes he does look like Jerry Springer

  • @royzlatanestevez9843
    @royzlatanestevez9843 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What would an unchanging sense of self look like, if it does not look like the unchanging sense of self we get from looking at that picture from that picnic 20 years ago? That makes no sense. Of course, if you get evidence and then just claim that you need to look harder and then the evidence goes away, provisionally, you can always claim that there is no evidence.
    But I can do that with anything. I can always claim that the evidence goes away if I look harder.
    Or would the evidence of it be something else than the impression that it exists? What would it look like, if it existed?
    And then he himself says there is no evidence of nothing. So if there is no self, then that can't be demonstrated either.
    What a strange theoretical system.
    Biology has a pretty solid understanding of why we feel "refreshed" in the morning. Not because our cells go into a "quantum vacuum energy field". Also, yes, energy IS mass. That is the whole point of e=mc². I really try to take spiritual systems seriously, but sadly there are almost no advocates of these systems who understand science. It's a very sad state.

    • @federicorudolph949
      @federicorudolph949 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sadly, religion is not useful anymore. Science has reemplaced its answers for ones more accurate and that actually relate to the physical world.
      For last, discoverments about brain and its relation with consciousness has also trown away the last bastion of all religions: the hope for afterlife. Science has shown us that there's no such thing as afterlife. So, religion is not anymore useful as a shield for our inner fear of death.
      So, in my opinion, this duty is now in charge of science. Psycollogy in special must find the way to help us cope with the fear of death.

    • @RumiSupertramp
      @RumiSupertramp 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Science is based on intellect, spirituality is beyond intellect and therefore beyond science

    • @royzlatanestevez9843
      @royzlatanestevez9843 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@RumiSupertramp Sure. So anyone can say whatever they like, and if it sounds spiritual enough to enough people, it's "spirituality" and somehow is correct even when there is no evidence for it, or even evidence against it, just by magic? I think there's no evidence for THAT to be true either. We just won't agree. But that's okay.

    • @royzlatanestevez9843
      @royzlatanestevez9843 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@federicorudolph949 I just wish for there to be some spiritual masters who are not ill-informed and producing the fantastic teachings about the material universe. If their understanding about the material universe is so bad and they do not have the mental presence to be aware that they are so ignorant about it (sleep putting our cells into "quantum vacuum field" - what?), then what is the chance that they can accurately tell us about things beyond material universe, which are much harder to grasp? If they can't even factcheck on material knowledge, which is so easy, how would they even be aware of being very wrong about the topics beyond the material universe, which are more difficult? They seem to believe any wild theory that they come up with, so it's very difficult to trust spiritual teachers.

  • @SurajVinay
    @SurajVinay 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Isn't he wearing the anti dimensional silver opal bracelet device .

  • @drewletchworth9895
    @drewletchworth9895 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Wow. I'm feeling that 65% of Robert Thurman is a very engaging and insightful speaker and 35% of Robert Thurman is a big spouter of horsepucky.

    • @Atanu
      @Atanu 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Drew Letchworth This observation of yours is right on the money. This is true about most people, though. Very few people stop at the edge of their own understanding of the world. Horsepucky results.

    • @RumiSupertramp
      @RumiSupertramp 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, he loves to hear himself talk

  • @kyleoren6523
    @kyleoren6523 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    So much for "just tid bits" man, he just keeps going and going 🤣... Amazing nevertheless❤

  • @randyklinger7649
    @randyklinger7649 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Really tired about this sexism: Woman is more compassionate as her love for her child. Tired of stereotypes. I, as a father, brought up and loved my child WAY more than her mother could or would. Look at life, not ancient clichès!

    • @suddletee6434
      @suddletee6434 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      i urge you to meditate and be at peace w that being the fact. he's speaking on a more metaphysical/spiritual frequency than he is emotional or physical. a feminine love/care for offspring is a physical manifestation of intangible love. Never question why until you've gone deeper within yourself

    • @iloverumi
      @iloverumi ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i noticed that too, randy. it is unfortunate.

  • @tenzinsoepa7648
    @tenzinsoepa7648 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    49:49

  • @DCXCoorexDakarCoore
    @DCXCoorexDakarCoore 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    👍🔥🤔😎

  • @elainemagson213
    @elainemagson213 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Lovely man - but I wish these wise people wouldn't talk politics. It jars.

    • @RumiSupertramp
      @RumiSupertramp 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes totally agree, he keeps going off on his soapbox

  • @TruthLove333
    @TruthLove333 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did I hear that right, lady to the right of Thurman is his wife??

  • @gyalbobhutia2825
    @gyalbobhutia2825 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Karma darwinism is great!

  • @thijsjong
    @thijsjong 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Energy does have mass. Or there would be no gravitational lensing. And something comes from nothing through quantum fluctuations.

    • @jj4cpw
      @jj4cpw 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hhm, interesting way to define "nothing." Since this "quantum womb" of yours gives rise to this universe, if not an INFINITE number of universes, sounds more like your "nothing" should be called "everything."
      Paradox is as the heart of being mortal so we should be sure about nothing as whatever we are sure of, its opposite is also true.

    • @Silverorient
      @Silverorient 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      This link (below) explains that light for example is a force/energy with no mass. I.e momentum yet no mass.
      www.desy.de/user/projects/Physics/Relativity/SR/light_mass.html

  • @user-bw1kz8eg3l
    @user-bw1kz8eg3l 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    His whole theory is based on reincarnation. He loves reincarnation! Much more than anatman or impermanence.

  • @whellockroad
    @whellockroad 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love Bob Thurman, but sometimes I wish he'd exercise more restraint in talking.

  • @Suzanne333333
    @Suzanne333333 ปีที่แล้ว

    David Bullard has a real chip on his shoulder. The squirming and all the side eye looks looks during Thurman’s talking. I especially didn’t like how he introduced Bob with the little hypothetical story about Bob making his wife mad. It’s just seemed like Bullard was in some sort of power-play that detracted from the experience of the panel. Seemed passive aggressive.

  • @christopherdiedrich40
    @christopherdiedrich40 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ahhhh... it was Sarlo. George Sarlo!
    I thought for a minute that he said George Soros.
    Whew!

  • @USA50_
    @USA50_ ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Dali Lama doesn't speak for all Buddhists.

    • @teejay5139
      @teejay5139 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Dalai Lama doesn't claim to speak for all Buddhists. All well-informed Buddhists know that.

  • @geoffreynhill2833
    @geoffreynhill2833 ปีที่แล้ว

    Waffle. Try Dr. Peter Fenwick. 🌈🦉

  • @ArchYeomans
    @ArchYeomans 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    No such thing as death.

  • @RumiSupertramp
    @RumiSupertramp 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This guy never answers the question, he's always off on his soapbox, so hilarious when he says the main point being.... that im off topic again

  • @GJ-dj4jx
    @GJ-dj4jx 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I gave up from the begging when he started bootlickiing regarding garbage they been feeding us for the past half a century or more.

  • @user-bw1kz8eg3l
    @user-bw1kz8eg3l 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    His theory is pseudoscience

  • @alanhussey
    @alanhussey 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    To much Politics and self motivation toward being a celebrity ...

    • @Queenie-the-genie
      @Queenie-the-genie 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well i guess you are a wise person who has the right to sit in judgement. Congratulations!

    • @MrElicottero
      @MrElicottero 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh, envy thy name is Naropa Ananda.

    • @chishikiendeavourer8663
      @chishikiendeavourer8663 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Completely opposite to your name. You bear the name of great master of past. What happen to you? Be happy and mindful.

  • @elisabethcrokaerts1980
    @elisabethcrokaerts1980 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a nut this man on the left. Why did anyone give him a stage on this subject? I don't care he is famous he didn't make a much clever or insightful impression on me. He starts with generalizing about women that they are so and so? He thinks he is funny by talking about monkey's and not knowing.the question anymore (what focus)? His explanations are a mess and not much accurate. Doctors who have compassion will be wealthy and have high status? Come on man this is ridicolous, it's the oppositie in the West, those who are honest and good get burn outs, no respect or appreciation amd definitely no extra money!

  • @poonberrymcfly3013
    @poonberrymcfly3013 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    came here for Buddhism, got anti-market Marxist rhetoric instead. :( disappointing.

    • @josef2012
      @josef2012 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hedge fund Buddha lol

  • @GlobalDrifter1000
    @GlobalDrifter1000 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Intro is a blabber mouth.

  • @fatherthomas1575
    @fatherthomas1575 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    SEE the Buddist monk that died , was dead 3 days and came back,
    his testimony of HELL, and JESUS

    • @DRUNKENSYLEMASTER619
      @DRUNKENSYLEMASTER619 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      That was fake. He said there were converts ? Christianity would of triple if the story check out. The person mysteriously. Dissapeard.

    • @josef2012
      @josef2012 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Huh?

    • @satatik21
      @satatik21 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ego

    • @king-bs3wu
      @king-bs3wu 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jesus Christ is real

  • @nonfecittaliter4361
    @nonfecittaliter4361 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    If you really could learn from dying you will quit budhism right away and embrace Christ.

    • @josef2012
      @josef2012 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Derrrrrp

    • @satatik21
      @satatik21 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ego

    • @king-bs3wu
      @king-bs3wu 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep tell him

    • @RumiSupertramp
      @RumiSupertramp 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Buddhists and Hindus have no problem accepting christianity, but why can't Christians be open minded to other faiths? Why so spiritually fascist? Is it insecurity?

    • @jaredwolfe4042
      @jaredwolfe4042 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What do you know of Buddhism though?