Great comparison but not exactly fair. You took a khaos boost one of the craziest sleds on the market versus a 9r pro which is a lot tamer of a chassis. It is very clear in the video the differences by how much the khaos wheelies vs the pro sticking and pulling hard. Still very good video by you guys
Yeah, we would have preferred to do a straight across KHAOS to KHAOS or PRO to PRO comparison also but it just wasn't possible to get the sleds to do that. But we we're kind of happy with how it turned out in that you can see the difference between the chassis' also and how the engine packages sort of complement those to a degree. Thanks for watching!
What track? Series 7 or 8?... Let's say the riding you did in this video with the 9R; stay with the 155 3" or... BTW appreciate the content and your time/effort!
Both of these sleds have Series 8 tracks. Check out our Series 8 vs 6 and 7 tracks video here for comparison...we filmed some of this in the exact same location actually! Lol What are the odds. th-cam.com/video/F5erWw7ot70/w-d-xo.html
This is true (although our math says the gap might be even bigger than your numbers suggest), however, the 9R was not developed for max power at high elevation. It was for a naturally-aspirated, quick-revving engine with lots of torque, more than simply adding more power which the turbocharged Patriot Boost already achieves, as you correctly point out. However, many sledders ride well below 10,000', where the output gap is smaller. Think coastal riders, Interior BC, Chic-Choc, NFLD, etc...locations with low to mid elevation and lots of epic, tight tree riding. Polaris developed this engine to shine in those circumstances where quick response at lower engine speeds is more important than outright power at max rpm. But yes, we agree that sledders who typically ride at 10,000 ft would probably benefit more from the significantly higher output of Patriot Boost at that elevation.
Completely different engine key word is the really light crank and new pistons .fusion 900 was a vibration turd and wasn’t locked down good bad engine vibration cause of the base mounts . Motor ran good just vibrated bad . Also that engine was 16 years ago lol .
@@sleddermag yeah it definitely sounds different. I think riders weren’t crazy about the loud wastegate noise and maybe they changed it. Also I heard a rumor the wastegate design on the 2022s was a patent pending design and maybe Polaris didn’t get it and switched designs to a different one, who knows lol.
Why are people like you the way you are? Like why are you so negative. Why the brand bashing. If you don’t like it don’t buy it. I personally don’t care for arctic cat. Does that mean I’m going to tell my buddy who owns an arctic cat it is a huge piece of shit? No, I’m just glad he can come ride with me. If it breaks that is his problem. All that negativity gets super old with you brand loyal people…do better
@@jeremiahlf to each their own. I am 52 and have been riding since I was 16. They all can be pieces of shit. It's the luck of the draw. As far as a buddy breaking down and the cost of you going riding - you are a total piece of sh.t! Who cares about the cost? If that was an issue you wouldn't ride to begin with. It is the whole and entire experience that you share with friends and family. If some can only afford an older sled- so be it. Support the fact that they are trying to enjoy the sport and if a breakdown occurs - have a laugh and make a memory of it. I have owned older sleds and have had issues and I have owned new sleds and had issues. I currently own 5 sleds, a 2019, a 2020 and two 2021's. Just snowchecked two 2023's. It is a sport, it's recreational. Sh.t happens, quit hating. It's not a dck swinging contest and I would guess that when you started it wasn't on new sh.. and you weren't a sponsored rider. Just try to support everyone all in the sport. Regardless of skill or make. Just sayin
@@jethrobodine011 the brand loyalty thing is all cat has left. Nobody wants to buy a cat accept for the diehards who think a 600 engine is acceptable for a mtn sled and somehow justify it. cat didn't even have engines in the props they had on the stage. I was a cat guy, still own 2 but my next sled aint gonna be a cat. 2 years for a 600 doo knockoff and 3-4 for what ever engine they are making. I honestly don't think cat actually has an engine textron has bled them so dry with R&D. thought they could ride the shitty monoraill gimmick for years. textron blows.
I would take the 9r all day , that’s because I ride at like 2000 feet and I like the tighter stuff , the quick response of the 9r would do me better than the boost .
This is probably a longer post, but here's the short version: I don't know their exact reasoning, but I agree with it, because whatever the actual h.p. number is, it's almost a pointless metric (in my opinion), for this reason: for most mountain riding, the characteristic of the engine (quick to rev, torque), clutching and driveline efficiency are much more important to how quickly and effectively the power is transferred to the track and snow. Now add in chassis, skidframe and track design which ultimately determine how effectively that power is used to get the sled on top of the snow and moving forward, and you see that the difference of a few horsepower one way or the other makes no difference. So why would the companies engage in that type of marketing, unless they can-without any doubt-claim to be the leader? And how can they do this when they don't know what the other manufacturers plan to release in the same year? TL;DR Sure, it's nice to know what is roughly the baseline power of the new sleds when they come out, but exact number is one of the least important considerations for how that sled will actually perform in the mountains. That's my opinion. Thanks for your comment! ~Pat
So were still comparing apples to oranges and supposed to come to some kind of conclusion based on that. You pick two completely different machines to compare that put power to the ground in a different way.
Google Earth says 7300 ft / 2200 m, so my guess was off by a bit. Probably should have just looked at the gauge! Anyway this is near the Continental Divide on the Idaho/Montana border, so definitely not 3000'.
Now Way Am I paying 27 000 here in Canada and it only last 2 to 4 thousand miles. Plus the crappy fuel mileage. My last Polaris turbo burned a 55 thousand dollar hole in my wallet keeping it going. No thanks. Yam/cat will at least get me home and I go alone a lot. COST Over time. Japanese 4stroke for me.
my bud with no spring order picked up a khaos slash boost 155 from Mountain Motorsports in golden in january... called in the morning picked the sled up that afternoon.
No company wants to limit their sales, but with ongoing worldwide parts supply issues, Polaris is doing everything they can to do the right thing by their customers, and unfortunately that includes placing limits on certain model quantities to help control the situation and ensure they can deliver the sleds they do build on time. It's the right thing to do, even though it's going to cost the company revenue and not everyone who wants the latest and greatest sled is going to get it. Side note: These sleds are amazing, but we also rode the "base model" Khaos and Khaos Slash 850s for a morning and they went everywhere the big bore and boost sleds did, and had just as much fun.
@@coreyrandall7610 my buddy picked up a khaos slash boost 155 in Golden couple weeks ago, no spring order, called in the morning picked it up in the afternoon
Interesting video comparing and contrasting.
I pick up my 9R today.
First new sled I’ve purchased in over 20 years.
Put that 9R in an XCR and that’s the ultimate trail/ditch banger
Stoked for the review! Made me feel even better about my choice in snowcheck this year! Boost khaos ftw!! 🤘🤘 keep it up guys!
Great comparison but not exactly fair. You took a khaos boost one of the craziest sleds on the market versus a 9r pro which is a lot tamer of a chassis. It is very clear in the video the differences by how much the khaos wheelies vs the pro sticking and pulling hard. Still very good video by you guys
Yeah, we would have preferred to do a straight across KHAOS to KHAOS or PRO to PRO comparison also but it just wasn't possible to get the sleds to do that. But we we're kind of happy with how it turned out in that you can see the difference between the chassis' also and how the engine packages sort of complement those to a degree.
Thanks for watching!
@@sleddermag Then you shouldn't have done the comparison and need to use the exact same machine for results that actually are meaningful.
My preference I prefer the 9R over 850 paytreat because I love exploring with my sleds so that is why the 9R will do the job I'm looking for
The real question is how long tell the grenade. As soon as warranty is up?
Add couple ounce oil to the tank every other time in the gas and more lube with live way longer got few techs in group
Very good review of the two...pro 9r for me!
Thanks for watching, enjoy it!
What track? Series 7 or 8?... Let's say the riding you did in this video with the 9R; stay with the 155 3" or... BTW appreciate the content and your time/effort!
Both of these sleds have Series 8 tracks.
Check out our Series 8 vs 6 and 7 tracks video here for comparison...we filmed some of this in the exact same location actually! Lol What are the odds.
th-cam.com/video/F5erWw7ot70/w-d-xo.html
At 10,000 ft the 9R will be about 133 HP compared to the boost of about 175.
This is true (although our math says the gap might be even bigger than your numbers suggest), however, the 9R was not developed for max power at high elevation. It was for a naturally-aspirated, quick-revving engine with lots of torque, more than simply adding more power which the turbocharged Patriot Boost already achieves, as you correctly point out.
However, many sledders ride well below 10,000', where the output gap is smaller. Think coastal riders, Interior BC, Chic-Choc, NFLD, etc...locations with low to mid elevation and lots of epic, tight tree riding. Polaris developed this engine to shine in those circumstances where quick response at lower engine speeds is more important than outright power at max rpm.
But yes, we agree that sledders who typically ride at 10,000 ft would probably benefit more from the significantly higher output of Patriot Boost at that elevation.
this 900 gonna prove out or is it gonna be an other money pit like the fusion ??
People have had great luck with the carls 900
@@JeremyBrightenburg exactly. everyone is going to turbo the 900.
Completely different engine key word is the really light crank and new pistons .fusion 900 was a vibration turd and wasn’t locked down good bad engine vibration cause of the base mounts . Motor ran good just vibrated bad . Also that engine was 16 years ago lol .
Just me or the 2023 boost doesn’t have that loud wastegate noise the 2022s have? Seems way quieter.
Interesting observation! We didn't notice at the time, but now you've got us wondering 🤔
@@sleddermag yeah it definitely sounds different. I think riders weren’t crazy about the loud wastegate noise and maybe they changed it. Also I heard a rumor the wastegate design on the 2022s was a patent pending design and maybe Polaris didn’t get it and switched designs to a different one, who knows lol.
as simple as small change to the stock can/packing inside it
Wonder how long it will take to blow up? Gotta love the Polaris reliability
Why are people like you the way you are? Like why are you so negative. Why the brand bashing. If you don’t like it don’t buy it. I personally don’t care for arctic cat. Does that mean I’m going to tell my buddy who owns an arctic cat it is a huge piece of shit? No, I’m just glad he can come ride with me. If it breaks that is his problem. All that negativity gets super old with you brand loyal people…do better
@@jeremiahlf to each their own. I am 52 and have been riding since I was 16. They all can be pieces of shit. It's the luck of the draw. As far as a buddy breaking down and the cost of you going riding - you are a total piece of sh.t! Who cares about the cost? If that was an issue you wouldn't ride to begin with. It is the whole and entire experience that you share with friends and family. If some can only afford an older sled- so be it. Support the fact that they are trying to enjoy the sport and if a breakdown occurs - have a laugh and make a memory of it. I have owned older sleds and have had issues and I have owned new sleds and had issues. I currently own 5 sleds, a 2019, a 2020 and two 2021's. Just snowchecked two 2023's. It is a sport, it's recreational. Sh.t happens, quit hating. It's not a dck swinging contest and I would guess that when you started it wasn't on new sh.. and you weren't a sponsored rider. Just try to support everyone all in the sport. Regardless of skill or make. Just sayin
U gotta love people in the comments losing their shit
@@jethrobodine011 the brand loyalty thing is all cat has left. Nobody wants to buy a cat accept for the diehards who think a 600 engine is acceptable for a mtn sled and somehow justify it. cat didn't even have engines in the props they had on the stage. I was a cat guy, still own 2 but my next sled aint gonna be a cat. 2 years for a 600 doo knockoff and 3-4 for what ever engine they are making. I honestly don't think cat actually has an engine textron has bled them so dry with R&D. thought they could ride the shitty monoraill gimmick for years. textron blows.
He probably doesn’t even have a sled. Lol
Late comment, but do all the 9R's have the amber headlight? I didn't see that as a spec on my snow check.
Yes, all 2023 9R and Patriot Boost models have the amber headlight accent-yours will too. Thanks for watching!
So a turbo 9R? 😎
I would take the 9r all day , that’s because I ride at like 2000 feet and I like the tighter stuff , the quick response of the 9r would do me better than the boost .
Why does Polaris not advertise Hp and torque numbers anymore?
Because than they cant say 50% more hp at 10,000ft than the 850 🤣
This is probably a longer post, but here's the short version:
I don't know their exact reasoning, but I agree with it, because whatever the actual h.p. number is, it's almost a pointless metric (in my opinion), for this reason: for most mountain riding, the characteristic of the engine (quick to rev, torque), clutching and driveline efficiency are much more important to how quickly and effectively the power is transferred to the track and snow. Now add in chassis, skidframe and track design which ultimately determine how effectively that power is used to get the sled on top of the snow and moving forward, and you see that the difference of a few horsepower one way or the other makes no difference. So why would the companies engage in that type of marketing, unless they can-without any doubt-claim to be the leader? And how can they do this when they don't know what the other manufacturers plan to release in the same year?
TL;DR Sure, it's nice to know what is roughly the baseline power of the new sleds when they come out, but exact number is one of the least important considerations for how that sled will actually perform in the mountains. That's my opinion.
Thanks for your comment! ~Pat
great informative video. Both look sweet!
Put that 9r in the xcr polaris!
Anyone rember the last 900 we seen from Polaris 😂that went great
probably better then cats 900
Hoping for a 9r boost with alpha rail next year 🤞
Keep dreaming, right?
@@Icutmetal Yeah 😔
What kind of troll are you
@@koltonbarney No i'm deadass, I want power but love how the alpha is easy to sidehill!
🤮🤮🤮
So were still comparing apples to oranges and supposed to come to some kind of conclusion based on that. You pick two completely different machines to compare that put power to the ground in a different way.
should've compared a 9r pro rmk to a pro rmk boost, or 9r khaos to khaos boost. the comparison isnt that clean this way.
Agreed, but it wasn't possible due to availability constraints
Prefer to be able to get one of these, Polaris production sucks…….
Judging by landscape id say you have to be around 3000'
Google Earth says 7300 ft / 2200 m, so my guess was off by a bit. Probably should have just looked at the gauge! Anyway this is near the Continental Divide on the Idaho/Montana border, so definitely not 3000'.
Sounds great but they are being towed out of the woods
Now Way Am I paying 27 000 here in Canada and it only last 2 to 4 thousand miles. Plus the crappy fuel mileage. My last Polaris turbo burned a 55 thousand dollar hole in my wallet keeping it going. No thanks. Yam/cat will at least get me home and I go alone a lot. COST Over time. Japanese 4stroke for me.
The unattainable, makes this irrelevant. Maybe later....
Ok
my bud with no spring order picked up a khaos slash boost 155 from Mountain Motorsports in golden in january... called in the morning picked the sled up that afternoon.
Check out the 9r and boost you cant even buy. Thanks Polaris
No company wants to limit their sales, but with ongoing worldwide parts supply issues, Polaris is doing everything they can to do the right thing by their customers, and unfortunately that includes placing limits on certain model quantities to help control the situation and ensure they can deliver the sleds they do build on time. It's the right thing to do, even though it's going to cost the company revenue and not everyone who wants the latest and greatest sled is going to get it.
Side note: These sleds are amazing, but we also rode the "base model" Khaos and Khaos Slash 850s for a morning and they went everywhere the big bore and boost sleds did, and had just as much fun.
Idk why everyone says that. Dealers in my area still have both. Where are you from?
@@patriotsfan1236 9rs up here were sold out in 2 hours. Boosts lasted a day or so. In AK
There out there I live in Ny last year I had to go there to get a xcr 850 someone ordered and counldnt get it .
@@coreyrandall7610 my buddy picked up a khaos slash boost 155 in Golden couple weeks ago, no spring order, called in the morning picked it up in the afternoon