THANK YOU!!!!! I've been saying this for YEARS!!!!!! Steph Curry is THE most lethal pick and roll/pop player in the history of the universe and that moron Steve Kerr uses him as a decoy for lesser players. How Kerr is sabotaging Currys' career is criminal. The first 11 games of the season The Warriors were running Terry Stotts' offence and went 11-2. Then the moron took over and started running his stupid motion offence and then the losing started. Kerrs' lineup choices are also criminal. Kerr needs to be fired IMMEDIATELY and Stotts needs to take over.
"Most lethal" is obviously debatable, but he's obviously up there with the elite. Using him 75% of the time or more and not letting him handle the ball has been frustrating. Then when it's 4th quarter he is expected to "go save us" and shoot tough shots, but out of rhythm. I've heard about the Stotts narrative's and not sure about all that, but I don't think it takes a genius to increase the number of on-ball opportunities
I think it's both obviously. Steph's going to want it himself, but if you're the coach, you're putting in the right lineups and immediately calling him to bring the ball up himself and run something. On ball pick, staggered screen, spain pick--and-roll, inverted pick and roll, fuck it anything lmao
It's Kerr and Steph choice at this point to use him like he jj Reddick, pros and cons to that, as seen in this game. But when steph is your only reliable shot creator toward the end of games, it's a dumb decision to make.
Exactly, there are obviously pros and cons to that. But this isn't 2015-2022 anymore, the rest of the league has caught on and Steph is no longer in his "prime". I'm fine with reduced minutes, but make those minutes meaningful. Possessions where Steph is running in circles is a waste of his energy
I think they are trying to improve their plays without curry. The goal is s championship and as it is now, they cant win. They know curry works, so lets try to improve what doesn't in these regular season games. Practice and exposure makes for improvement
@@n813productions2 Okay well then when Steph sits, let Dennis run all those minutes like he has in his previous teams, running PnR. Stagger those minutes, but don't have both of them on the court at the same time and have Steph run JJ redick plays
We need Steph to play like in 2021. The season he plays a lots of iso and pick and rolls. And not theses dumb floppy plays like this season. There is a reason he was the leading scorer in 2021. Because he has the ball a lot of time in his hands.
Well, Curry is about to be 37 not 33 anymore, a bit hard to be like 2021 all over again... LeBron's physical attributes + maintenance are the reasons why he can still compete over 36+, however not everyone was blessed with LeBron's body, even KD is still knocking down easy points because of his sheer height and release point, Steph does not have those advantages sadly. No matter what Steph will remain the greatest player under 6'3 with unimpressive(NBA standard-wise)physical talents, most haters/casuals fail to notice that, Steph is just a 6'2 guy with close to average wingspan, who does not have the bounce/explosiveness of Russ/Rose/Ja...etc. Tons of players with better talents have already exited the league way younger than Steph, not to say still competing.
@@6figures300 My dude....are you watching this season??? He's score more than 25 points in 1/3 of the games. That's why he's averaging less than 22 PPG...he's not averaging 25 this year, stop being unrealistic
@warriorsbreakdown He's too stubborn for that. That is the issue. He used Terry's offense when we were having a good record. But because of DG and his podcast he decided to go back to his old ways. Hence why we are losing and Kyle Anderson barely plays. That man makes a huge impact, however is not being used.
Funny thing is kerr has had curry brainwashed that he needs to be offball...when clearly he impacts the offence more on ball. How many times does kerr have to try something to realise it doesnt work, small ball, forcing ppl to play out of position, freaking motion when clearly ppl have caught on, trying to turn kuminga into iguodala when hes not Another thing with curry being off ball means he has to run around to be effective which drains him more than were he to be on ball or alternatively he just stands in the corner essentially having your best player ball watching....essentially handicuping yourself
Small ball is outdated in 2024, 75% motion offense also is. I want the ball in the best players hands (not all the time, but give me 50/50 at least, especially when things aren't working) and good things will happen
Steph’s intimidating off-ball threat doesn’t come mainly from his brilliant movement or other off-ball skills. It used to be like everybody on court knows Stephen is the actual first offense choice even if he’s away from the ball. But recently Steph was like ok I’m not that good as I used to be, so I don’t have to be the first choice.Then there’s first choice on court no more. Everybody looks same and unclear and mediocre without a offense core.
@ yeah you’re so right, when Steph trying to get the ball or actually make it, the defense is gonna badly stirred, then the second the third chances can show up. Just like you have been proven in your video and this is the core of Worriers basketball. So what I’m saying is Steph was trying to dispense his power in offense to the rest team but no one yet is capable to take over, maybe only the whole team including himself realize that oh it’s still better to put Steph first just like it used to be can Steph finally get the ball.
Surprised that the Dubs don’t just carve up face-guarding Ds, especially with a willing screener like Curry. Vs Nembhard, Steph did not want to attack, even in neutral situations.
Right, or if they're faceguarding him and not willing to leave, make Steph the screener with an inverted pick and roll on Wiggins and Kuminga. Guarannted you're either getting a mismatch, a downhill dry for the wing player, or an open pick and pop to Steph. They barely did that
I know, the first time I noticed it and been advocating for him to have time on-ball was vs the kings series which we won. People will say his "gravity" yeah, sure, but not when he is not getting anything to help him score, meanwhile while he is on-ball he still a great threat.
Lmfao Mike Brown literally smelled that whole offense out cuz he was...literally part of hte coaching staff on the Warriors haha. Then it was game 7 and they couldn't do anything when Steph started with the ball and looked to score
After your analysis and the similar concepts Jim Park expresses on his channel, I'm wondering about 2 things: 1. If it is just a matter of having Curry more on the ball, why Kerr and the whole GS coaching staff do not do that? To preserve Steph from fatigue? To unleash his full potential only in the fourth q / crunch time? 2. Why the GS specialist media (Fitz, Buike, Mullin, Hill, Festus, Monte P., Zena, etc...) do not even talk about this, just limiting their post-games analysis to stats and players?
1. I would say their primary goal is to "use" Steph's gravity to find openings for other players in the read and react offense. Plenty of times, Steph's gravity simply attracts multiple players, creating wide open backdoors and passing lanes. But he's older and slower now, and defenses have caught on. There's no point doing DHOs and downscreens for 20 seconds of the shotclock, since no one is scared of Looney/Dray/GP2 with the ball at the top of the key looking for that opening. Steph running around without even touching the ball is arguably more tiring than giving him the rock l to make a play with a screen, IMO. 2. Well they're GSW media haha, their job isn't to challenge what the coaches are/aren't doing. Plus the analysis is way more surface level, tends to be more for the casual fan. I feel like my channel is for the high IQ basketball fan, it's not as easy to digest vs simply talking about stats/players. Also it's hard to analyze in real-time/right after the game, versus sitting down and breaking down film
I dont understand why being older and slower means worse for off ball than being on ball and using PnR all the time tho. It is way harder for him to use PnR with injuries and being older and slower because he cant create advantages anymore on isolations against bigs or wings. Him being slower also means a blitz against him in the PnR creates more trouble for him. Being off ball creates more advantages for them versus being on ball with all his regression. Pick and rolls are meant to create advantages but an older, slower, more injured Steph cannot do that as good anymore. Moreover, they dont have great shooters to take advantage of five out offense. It all boils down to roster construction and lack of #2 @@warriorsbreakdown
@@warriorsbreakdownno pick and roll should be spammed. If it ain’t broke don’t fix it. There’s teams like Dallas and Clippers whose entire offense is PnR nothing wrong with replicating that with a dash of motion offense.
@@alanarriaga6204 Right, but both Luka/Harden are slower and bigger than Steph,. They can take the heat by driving in the paint and using their patience/pace to create a good shot. Steph doesn't play like that, his PnR are higher up on the perimeter. All I'm asking for is more even 50/50 split haha
Time to accept Curry is too old to carry a team now. stop complaining the coach, Curry had been playing mid for almost a whole season now since last winter. nothing was really changed from the system perspective. so fk yeah, this is Curry's regression not Kerr's problem..so many dumb fks
I haven't followed him too much until recently, the only thing I agree with him 100% on are the big lineups. This isn't 2015 small ball anymore, I'm fuckin tired with a bunch of midgets in there. Anytime we got 3 guys under 6'5 on the court together, it's straight comedy watching them forced to be in rotations cuz a 6'4 Moses Moody is guarding a 6'8 small forward in the post
we need 2021 curry he was way more confident and acted like he is the best scorer on his team curry better stop listening to kerr and channel his inner 2021 self 🔥🔥
I mean he's not in his prime anymore, and that's okay. But if you're going to reduce his minutes and get him help (Schroder), then let's maximize those minutes. Not by making him run circles on the court
The Warriors' style of play used to work when other teams had big, slow players. Having small, quick players gave them an advantage because they were faster and could shoot well, while other teams struggled to adapt. The Warriors were also athletic and smart, which compensated for their smaller size. Currently, the team is smaller but can't shoot as well and isn't as smart or athletic. Other teams have improved, with bigger players who can shoot and move better. This leaves the Warriors at a disadvantage because their small players often guard bigger ones, leading to a lack of rim protection and open three-pointers for opponents. Even when the Warriors defend the three-point line, the small players can't effectively guard the rim, making it easy for opponents to score inside. Steph playing off-ball isn't effective because he isn't in his prime anymore and needs to be involved more directly. The current strategy of spreading the ball around isn't suitable because the players aren't the same as before. They aren't benefiting from the space Steph creates, which requires high basketball IQ to utilize. This approach is hurting both Steph and the other players, making it ineffective overall. Not sure why we signed denis even at this point. Towards the end of games, when the team is forced to give the ball to Steph, who isn't in rhythm, it becomes predictable and ineffective. The sudden shift from spreading the ball around to relying solely on Steph in the last few minutes confuses everyone. Other teams easily anticipate this strategy, focusing on shutting down Steph, which becomes problematic especially when he's not in rhythm. Also, the predictable passing between Draymond and Steph is easily anticipated, making their plays ineffective and frustrating to watch. This is so easy to see that it makes me think shit is rigged. no one can be this stupid. lastly this is just a nitpick for draymond. but omg i feel sick when draymond completely ignores a 3 point shooter and then pretends its some defensive jedi mind trick.
Schroder is a PnR player, he shoots threes with a slow release when he's got the ball. He's not a run around, spot up 3 point shooter. I hope they just throw him on the bench and give him 30 minutes, while minimizing the time both he and Curry are on the floor. Only do it when they need to change up the look and put Steph momentarily at the 2
@@warriorsbreakdown Schroder doesn't fit playing with Steph, the best player to fit with Steph throughout thus system is a 3&D type of player. This is why I think Cam is the best choice to get from the Nets, but yeah they want JK in exchange so they can't get him.
I mean yeah I doubt he's fully healthy. I'm not asking for peak Curry lol. I'm asking for at least 15 shot attempts a game and not 4 in the first half and 0 in the first quarter lol
Ya I was also not keen on Schroder starting with Steph, he seemed better as a backup point guard than taking on ball plays from Steph. Melton was really the perfect guy next to him, but Buddy isn't bad as a Klay replacement. And also still feel like we need a real second option next to Curry, none of these guys really scream 2nd star.
I mean, all that sounds great, but not sure if second option is feasible considering who's out here + salaries. But I think it's clear that Schroder needs to come off the bench, and stagger those minutes. Melton was obviously a better fit, but we can't say Melton is the reason they're now 15-13 lol
@@warriorsbreakdownYa it may not be probable but I feel like it's what we need, it's rare for a championship teams to not have that second option night and night out.
Steph’s knees are on fire. He is trying to pick his spots when to be aggressive. This falls back on Coach Kerr. He needs to run plays for Buddy and Kumigua while Steph is hurting. If Kerr is not going to run plays for them then he needs to stop getting mad when they try and create something.
I had an earlier comment, if he really is hurting, then I prefer him to sit out and get healthy for the long season/playoffs. Now with Schroder, they should let others maximize their talents and change up the offensive system to match their personnel, but Kerr is pretty hardcore on his motion offense
@@warriorsbreakdown thing is stotts offense was working perfectly fine with this team. But once he received praise for his work from dray and other players, Kerr seems to have taken it right off like wtf
@@cringelevelunlocked7418 Idk where the narrative that it was Stotts offense and he changed it came from, I don't know where the source is and have no evidence myself haha
@@warriorsbreakdown check the games before first mavs game, and the ones after that you'll notice that have reverted back to motion offense after the mavs one for some reason unknown.
I am so tired and sick of watching Kerr sabotage this team every game. First, he blames the young players. Of the 7 turnovers they had in the first quarter, 95% of them were either Curry or Green. Secondly, he tdllz them to pass curry the ball. But the way he is using Steph, teams are isolating him with defense. So it is difficult to get him the ball at times. Thirdly, he points out all the errors he made but turns around and di them the next game or worse. Steph, Green needs to approach him about his coaching. If that does not work. Go to the owners and say they want to be traded. Hopefully, that would get something done. Right now it is painful to watch Warriors games. After seeing how things can be like at the beginning of the season.
I know this is obly semi related but the fact that the Warriors have been too small for like 4 seasons and the best they've done is get a 6'9" centre. What is going on?!
You ask me lol, they tried with a young Wiseman and that didn't work. I like Trayce and I think he will be solid. But he won't be solid if he doesn't get more than 15 fuckin minutes lmfao
Idk who will read this but it’s the truth. For 1, If curry is hurt, sit him down, point blank period. 2. NOBODY ON THE TEAM IS A THREAT TO SCORE UNLESS CURRY CREATES AN ADVANTAGE. We all have eyes. The defense against the warriors is “anybody but curry” So it’s either one of these two options…. Let curry create the advantage which means he needs to be involved in every play.(pick and roll or handoffs). Or trade for actual competent scorers. No curry is not washed. He can do the 2021 run easliy. But for what purpose? To run himself into the ground just to make the play in? It’s just not worth it. He will either request a trade. Or they will get the players he needs. He’s not going to come out here and average 33 points just to make the play in. & if he does. These will be the last few years he will be in the league. The miles will add up. The decision will be up to him but let’s not hurt our brains trying to figure out what’s going on. It’s in plain sight
To me, it looks like he’s physically not healthy (the knees), but he’s also checked out mentally. He has no energy in his defensive closeouts and loses his man constantly. And yeah, DS should be running the second unit. I wouldn’t mind seeing podz at the starting 2 with Steph seeing how he’s shot the 3 ball the last 4 games. Also, Draymond shouldn’t be starting. He’s clearly not healthy, but he’s also the one making dumb turnovers in the first. JK should get the nod and start at the 4
I’ve been pretty pissed ngl. When was the last time they went 3-10??? Choking leads left and right? Worse than last year. It’s time to spray out some narratives haha
Im glad even warriors breakdown is breaking those mind boggling plays. "We've been playing that for ten years", we shouldnt change and keep doing some outdated shit". - Kerr
Fire Kerr...move on ..Only Kd made you look great as a coach but really he's mediocre.... Look at the Clips bunch of role players and using Harden even struggling without Klaw yet win games and beating contenders too...
Feeling strong influence of Jim Park in this video, he saying same things for years. Hope every basketball channel starting speaking similar stuff about Warriors, maybe someone in organization will hear and make changes. Probably not, because Kerr does the same thing for 10 years and doesn't show any signs of changes. He’s probably one of those coaches who is too old and dogmatic, especially after it brought him success at first, he thinks it will always work despite the personnel on the team. Even though everyone on the team said that they needed to make changes and stop doing the same thing over an over again and hope for a different result.
I did not know of Jim Park until recently, this is my own perspective playing basketball my entire life as a shooter and watching Warriors for a long time. I don't think it takes a genius to recognize we should stop using our best player as a decoy "majority" of the time, and also the fact that small ball lineups with 4 guys under 6'6 is a fuckin joke. We don't have KD/prime Klay/Dray/Iggy anymore. We have Podz and Moses Moody and Buddy Hield. Let's please go big and play some interior defense, cuz the opponents are licking their lips in the paint everytime they see this midget lineup
@@warriorsbreakdown Agree. I hope to see more videos like this in the future to better understand what works and what doesn't. Also about personel , the players previously(Iggy, Shaun, West, Bogut) weren’t so fixated on their shot but were trying to find Steph in the first place, that’s why the movement system worked, Kerr mentioned this when he said what he expects from the players recently, but it’s not the players’ fault that they have there are no necessary skills for Steve’s system, it’s the coach’s ability to adapt to the players and their skills, mask their shortcomings and emphasize their strengths, unfortunately we don’t see this from Steve at all.
@@majayjay06 yeah agree. i'm not saying from that angle. I am saying from caps limit angle. He should be rewarded, but there are various methods to do that
Steph is old and the system is cooked. Kerr keeps changing his mind about the line ups he wants to use and how he wants the team to play. Either the motion offense has to largely end or you just blow up the team already and start the rebuild that is going to have to happen at some point soon anyway. This team is going nowhere. Both Steph and Dray are playing through injuries and even when healthy they don't have the energy to do what they used every game or even every week. People really got fooled by a few highlight games in the Olympics that Steph was still that guy. He's not, regardless of his gravity. Draymond should be coming off the bench permanently and JK should be playing 30+ minutes a night at the 4. Truthfully if it were me I'd be shopping Steph for as much as i could get and rebuilding the team.
Steph is definitely hurt and he's def regressing. People asking him to do more PnR forgets the fact that wr have atrocious shooters in the floor so spread PnR wouldnt be as effective. Second, Draymond is regressing hard so PnR with Steph is gonna be easier to guard. Steph is also suffering a lot of turnover maybe due to his injuries so blitzing him in a PnR is making him troubles. Moreover, he cant even attack slower bigs now bec of his injury and him getting older.
From these plays, every pick and roll led to a bucket or high quality look. They literally beat the Timberwolves three days ago in the 4th quarter from spamming pick and roll. No one is asking them to run it the full game, but doing it twice for your best player in a full half is absolutely comedic. If they trap the PnR, find a short roller that can get the ball and make a play
@@warriorsbreakdown because the Wolves has an atrocious PnR defense with Gobert. Other teams are not easily exploitable like that. Still, it is survivorship bias since you only showed the ones that fall through. Maybe try showing up the PnR where Steph threw a lot of turnovers because he is being smothered by a blitz and cant dribble around them anymore, or the short roller like Draymond cannot create a score bec he's not the same guy anymore, or Steph isolation against bigs where he cant get separation or he got blocked. Ofc he would look good once in a while in the same way I could also show highlights where their offense worked with him as a decoy. This team rests on Steph's ability to create on-ball and off-ball and not just "coaching" or spamming pick and rolls. This team is not capable of running more spread PnR with how the roster is constructed and the current regression of Steph Curry.
Bruh.. I slam the table anytime i see another role player bringing the ball up when warriors are clearly in need of a bucket. Kerr has lost his mind!. Lol.
@warriorsbreakdown lol.u can't make it up.Kerr has lost it.The nuggets game this season confirmed it for me.When it got to money time,nuggets went directly to jokic for a bucket in the post every time.Kerr had the ball in wiggins' hands trying to run Steph off screens which got denied, then wiggins drove and fell down 😭😭.
@@warriorsbreakdown Personally i also think curry at his age shouldn't be doing all that running.I don't think his legs can handle it anymore. Just make the game easier for him,give him the ball and let him pass out of double teams. Run about 5 off ball plays a game for him.Don't turn that man to Sam Hauser. Lmao.
@warriorsbreakdown but man always...a mismatch...since usaully defense switch everything...and sometimes guards are guarding him like Ja Morant, but a post of JK is way more better than a over passing and a contested 3s......
@@TheGreenFifty JK in the post is fine, but he just doesn't have a refined post game and often tries to foul bait, then proceed to miss free throws anyway. It's not the worst offense cuz the rest of the players are stagnant, but yeah
I agree with most the vid but we get it, your more of a steph fan then warrior fan. Dont get frustrsted to the point u say an open wiggins middy aint a good shot or say jk tried to foul bait and show a clip of him actually getting fouled lol this starts with kerr who has been horrific for awhile, most yall just catching up
Do you not hear me complain about Steph being not aggressive the first half? That is literally me calling him out. My point with Wiggins was even HE wanted a pick and roll and shot an open 20 footer, it means he’s looking for his shot. You took my tone wrong
I've always been a PnR hater. I'd rather lose a bunch of games and have everyone touch the ball. That's just not a style of basketball I like to watch nor play. If all we do is put Curry in more PnR plays then it's just like Trey with Atlanta. Teams will figure it out in the playoffs. The reason why the warriors style works so well is because defenders end up sticking to their man during the course of the game. And then ONCE we start using high PnRs then Steph has more room and space to score or pass it off to a hot and warmed up teammate. Also, Steph doesn't have the physical body to run PnR that often. He's not as big as Luka or Lebron. Right now, this is all we got. I think we should trade some of our assets to get someone. Who? I don't know. But hey that game against Indiana was fun. It's okay we lost. But I think we competed. Not like that Memphis game. lol
Dude, I literally never said spam pick and roll. Steph is 6'3 with shoes, he's not Luka/prime CP3/Lebron. But it doesn't have to be the other end of the spectrum too, when in the first half he had literally 2 or 3 on-ball pick and rolls set for him, with each resulting in a bucket. Then by the time its clutch time, Kerr 75% of the time spams pick and roll anyway. How are you expecting players to be in PnR rhythm, when Steph got 4 shots off in the first half? They were lucky they were within striking distance. I'm saying a mixture of both. Start with motion offense, but get your superstar some fuckin looks. Give him the ball and let him bring it up, it's not hard. 0 shots in the first quarter is unacceptable, and not sustainable over a full game of your superstar
Haha idk sabotage is the right word...but going 3-10 is hideous and they need a change. I'd rather Steph shoot 25+ shots and live with the results knowing teams will shell out to guard him (which opens up his teammates), vs letting the worse players get "going" before your superstar player
Might be he's injured and has actually requested not to be used as the primary ball handler. Because it's almost too easy when he is on ball. But maybe he's actually trying to hold back? I get people are criticizing Kerr but is it possible he literally doesn't understand what, no offense, a few TH-camrs are noticing? There's got to be a reason?
If Steph Curry is injured, then sit out and recover until he's 100%. I don't know his status, but if you're playing, I'm assuming he's 100%. I could not tell you everything since I'm not an official coach, but I'm watching every single game and noticing a similar pattern in the Ls. And last night it was Steph acting in a JJ Redick role, while everyone else was creating for themselves. Call me crazy, but I believe it should be everybody else playing off of Steph when he has the ball, not the other way around
THANK YOU!!!!! I've been saying this for YEARS!!!!!!
Steph Curry is THE most lethal pick and roll/pop player in the history of the universe and that moron Steve Kerr uses him as a decoy for lesser players. How Kerr is sabotaging Currys' career is criminal. The first 11 games of the season The Warriors were running Terry Stotts' offence and went 11-2. Then the moron took over and started running his stupid motion offence and then the losing started. Kerrs' lineup choices are also criminal. Kerr needs to be fired IMMEDIATELY and Stotts needs to take over.
"Most lethal" is obviously debatable, but he's obviously up there with the elite. Using him 75% of the time or more and not letting him handle the ball has been frustrating. Then when it's 4th quarter he is expected to "go save us" and shoot tough shots, but out of rhythm. I've heard about the Stotts narrative's and not sure about all that, but I don't think it takes a genius to increase the number of on-ball opportunities
Im glad youre also calling out Steph not wanting the ball. Casuals are so quick to blame Kerr for every single issue.
I think it's both obviously. Steph's going to want it himself, but if you're the coach, you're putting in the right lineups and immediately calling him to bring the ball up himself and run something. On ball pick, staggered screen, spain pick--and-roll, inverted pick and roll, fuck it anything lmao
@@warriorsbreakdownthank you! Let’s not start that Curry scared to score narrative when it’s the sets and motion offense Kerr sets up.
It's Kerr and Steph choice at this point to use him like he jj Reddick, pros and cons to that, as seen in this game. But when steph is your only reliable shot creator toward the end of games, it's a dumb decision to make.
Exactly, there are obviously pros and cons to that. But this isn't 2015-2022 anymore, the rest of the league has caught on and Steph is no longer in his "prime". I'm fine with reduced minutes, but make those minutes meaningful. Possessions where Steph is running in circles is a waste of his energy
I think they are trying to improve their plays without curry. The goal is s championship and as it is now, they cant win. They know curry works, so lets try to improve what doesn't in these regular season games. Practice and exposure makes for improvement
@@n813productions2 Okay well then when Steph sits, let Dennis run all those minutes like he has in his previous teams, running PnR. Stagger those minutes, but don't have both of them on the court at the same time and have Steph run JJ redick plays
We need Steph to play like in 2021. The season he plays a lots of iso and pick and rolls. And not theses dumb floppy plays like this season. There is a reason he was the leading scorer in 2021. Because he has the ball a lot of time in his hands.
He's not in his prime anymore, he cant average more than 25+. That's okay, but this game was completely ridiculous
@@warriorsbreakdown Curry can't average more than 25!?!?!? are you high???
Well, Curry is about to be 37 not 33 anymore, a bit hard to be like 2021 all over again...
LeBron's physical attributes + maintenance are the reasons why he can still compete over 36+, however not everyone was blessed with
LeBron's body, even KD is still knocking down easy points because of his sheer height and release point, Steph does not have those advantages sadly.
No matter what Steph will remain the greatest player under 6'3 with unimpressive(NBA standard-wise)physical talents, most haters/casuals
fail to notice that, Steph is just a 6'2 guy with close to average wingspan, who does not have the bounce/explosiveness of Russ/Rose/Ja...etc. Tons of players with better talents have already exited the league way younger than Steph, not to say still competing.
@@6figures300 My dude....are you watching this season??? He's score more than 25 points in 1/3 of the games. That's why he's averaging less than 22 PPG...he's not averaging 25 this year, stop being unrealistic
@@warriorsbreakdownmy dude he can he will average more than 25 maybe this yesr msybe next he is still capable of averaging 30 trust me
A steph curry on ball pick n roll is so difficult to guard and yet
Get Steve Kerr out of there. I'm tired of his ass. He has a butt hurt ego
I like Steve Kerr, but I need him to be more flexible. He needs to make these in game adjustments and give his players consistent minutes
@warriorsbreakdown He's too stubborn for that. That is the issue. He used Terry's offense when we were having a good record. But because of DG and his podcast he decided to go back to his old ways. Hence why we are losing and Kyle Anderson barely plays. That man makes a huge impact, however is not being used.
Funny thing is kerr has had curry brainwashed that he needs to be offball...when clearly he impacts the offence more on ball. How many times does kerr have to try something to realise it doesnt work, small ball, forcing ppl to play out of position, freaking motion when clearly ppl have caught on, trying to turn kuminga into iguodala when hes not
Another thing with curry being off ball means he has to run around to be effective which drains him more than were he to be on ball or alternatively he just stands in the corner essentially having your best player ball watching....essentially handicuping yourself
Small ball is outdated in 2024, 75% motion offense also is. I want the ball in the best players hands (not all the time, but give me 50/50 at least, especially when things aren't working) and good things will happen
Steph’s intimidating off-ball threat doesn’t come mainly from his brilliant movement or other off-ball skills. It used to be like everybody on court knows Stephen is the actual first offense choice even if he’s away from the ball. But recently Steph was like ok I’m not that good as I used to be, so I don’t have to be the first choice.Then there’s first choice on court no more. Everybody looks same and unclear and mediocre without a offense core.
I get Steph isn't in his prime, but not looking to shoot and having no attempts in one quarter is criminal
@ yeah you’re so right, when Steph trying to get the ball or actually make it, the defense is gonna badly stirred, then the second the third chances can show up. Just like you have been proven in your video and this is the core of Worriers basketball. So what I’m saying is Steph was trying to dispense his power in offense to the rest team but no one yet is capable to take over, maybe only the whole team including himself realize that oh it’s still better to put Steph first just like it used to be can Steph finally get the ball.
“Buddy Hield pick and roll into a Kuminga post-up.”🤣🤣🤣
Never thought I would say both of those phrases into one sentence that leads to a bucket lol
5:06 f bomb threw me off but is 100% warranted. Kerr smh!
Lol I had to, I was getting pissed
Surprised that the Dubs don’t just carve up face-guarding Ds, especially with a willing screener like Curry. Vs Nembhard, Steph did not want to attack, even in neutral situations.
Right, or if they're faceguarding him and not willing to leave, make Steph the screener with an inverted pick and roll on Wiggins and Kuminga. Guarannted you're either getting a mismatch, a downhill dry for the wing player, or an open pick and pop to Steph. They barely did that
I know, the first time I noticed it and been advocating for him to have time on-ball was vs the kings series which we won. People will say his "gravity" yeah, sure, but not when he is not getting anything to help him score, meanwhile while he is on-ball he still a great threat.
Lmfao Mike Brown literally smelled that whole offense out cuz he was...literally part of hte coaching staff on the Warriors haha. Then it was game 7 and they couldn't do anything when Steph started with the ball and looked to score
@@warriorsbreakdown Fro real!
After your analysis and the similar concepts Jim Park expresses on his channel, I'm wondering about 2 things:
1. If it is just a matter of having Curry more on the ball, why Kerr and the whole GS coaching staff do not do that? To preserve Steph from fatigue? To unleash his full potential only in the fourth q / crunch time?
2. Why the GS specialist media (Fitz, Buike, Mullin, Hill, Festus, Monte P., Zena, etc...) do not even talk about this, just limiting their post-games analysis to stats and players?
1. I would say their primary goal is to "use" Steph's gravity to find openings for other players in the read and react offense. Plenty of times, Steph's gravity simply attracts multiple players, creating wide open backdoors and passing lanes. But he's older and slower now, and defenses have caught on. There's no point doing DHOs and downscreens for 20 seconds of the shotclock, since no one is scared of Looney/Dray/GP2 with the ball at the top of the key looking for that opening. Steph running around without even touching the ball is arguably more tiring than giving him the rock l to make a play with a screen, IMO.
2. Well they're GSW media haha, their job isn't to challenge what the coaches are/aren't doing. Plus the analysis is way more surface level, tends to be more for the casual fan. I feel like my channel is for the high IQ basketball fan, it's not as easy to digest vs simply talking about stats/players. Also it's hard to analyze in real-time/right after the game, versus sitting down and breaking down film
@warriorsbreakdown thank you, appreciate it!
I dont understand why being older and slower means worse for off ball than being on ball and using PnR all the time tho. It is way harder for him to use PnR with injuries and being older and slower because he cant create advantages anymore on isolations against bigs or wings. Him being slower also means a blitz against him in the PnR creates more trouble for him. Being off ball creates more advantages for them versus being on ball with all his regression. Pick and rolls are meant to create advantages but an older, slower, more injured Steph cannot do that as good anymore. Moreover, they dont have great shooters to take advantage of five out offense.
It all boils down to roster construction and lack of #2 @@warriorsbreakdown
I’m starting to think that this pick and roll thing might be a good idea.
Lol I'm not saying spam pick and roll, but there are more possessions with him not touching the ball, than getting touches
@@warriorsbreakdownno pick and roll should be spammed. If it ain’t broke don’t fix it. There’s teams like Dallas and Clippers whose entire offense is PnR nothing wrong with replicating that with a dash of motion offense.
@@alanarriaga6204 Right, but both Luka/Harden are slower and bigger than Steph,. They can take the heat by driving in the paint and using their patience/pace to create a good shot. Steph doesn't play like that, his PnR are higher up on the perimeter. All I'm asking for is more even 50/50 split haha
Lol. Right??
Excellent Analysis and video.
Rhythm is soooo vitally important to a shooter. Steph HAS to look for his own way more often and way sooner!! 🙏🙏
What are your thoughts of everything that Jim Park is always saying about the team and Kerr?
Time to accept Curry is too old to carry a team now. stop complaining the coach, Curry had been playing mid for almost a whole season now since last winter. nothing was really changed from the system perspective. so fk yeah, this is Curry's regression not Kerr's problem..so many dumb fks
I haven't followed him too much until recently, the only thing I agree with him 100% on are the big lineups. This isn't 2015 small ball anymore, I'm fuckin tired with a bunch of midgets in there. Anytime we got 3 guys under 6'5 on the court together, it's straight comedy watching them forced to be in rotations cuz a 6'4 Moses Moody is guarding a 6'8 small forward in the post
we need 2021 curry he was way more confident and acted like he is the best scorer on his team curry better stop listening to kerr and channel his inner 2021 self 🔥🔥
I mean he's not in his prime anymore, and that's okay. But if you're going to reduce his minutes and get him help (Schroder), then let's maximize those minutes. Not by making him run circles on the court
great work as usual bro. youre a real one, go dubs
You are my spirit youtuber. My girl doesn’t understand my rage watching these games but you do🥲
Hahahaha thanks man, glad you feel that way lol
The Warriors' style of play used to work when other teams had big, slow players. Having small, quick players gave them an advantage because they were faster and could shoot well, while other teams struggled to adapt. The Warriors were also athletic and smart, which compensated for their smaller size.
Currently, the team is smaller but can't shoot as well and isn't as smart or athletic. Other teams have improved, with bigger players who can shoot and move better. This leaves the Warriors at a disadvantage because their small players often guard bigger ones, leading to a lack of rim protection and open three-pointers for opponents. Even when the Warriors defend the three-point line, the small players can't effectively guard the rim, making it easy for opponents to score inside.
Steph playing off-ball isn't effective because he isn't in his prime anymore and needs to be involved more directly. The current strategy of spreading the ball around isn't suitable because the players aren't the same as before. They aren't benefiting from the space Steph creates, which requires high basketball IQ to utilize. This approach is hurting both Steph and the other players, making it ineffective overall. Not sure why we signed denis even at this point.
Towards the end of games, when the team is forced to give the ball to Steph, who isn't in rhythm, it becomes predictable and ineffective. The sudden shift from spreading the ball around to relying solely on Steph in the last few minutes confuses everyone. Other teams easily anticipate this strategy, focusing on shutting down Steph, which becomes problematic especially when he's not in rhythm. Also, the predictable passing between Draymond and Steph is easily anticipated, making their plays ineffective and frustrating to watch.
This is so easy to see that it makes me think shit is rigged. no one can be this stupid. lastly this is just a nitpick for draymond. but omg i feel sick when draymond completely ignores a 3 point shooter and then pretends its some defensive jedi mind trick.
Kerr said when u have the best shooter/player on your time, u always look for him...and he's right!
Well looking for him is one thing, passing him the ball is another. He also has to want it
Very convincing. Thank you. Don't know why Schoeder had to come to the team as a starter...
Schroder is a PnR player, he shoots threes with a slow release when he's got the ball. He's not a run around, spot up 3 point shooter. I hope they just throw him on the bench and give him 30 minutes, while minimizing the time both he and Curry are on the floor. Only do it when they need to change up the look and put Steph momentarily at the 2
@@warriorsbreakdown Schroder doesn't fit playing with Steph, the best player to fit with Steph throughout thus system is a 3&D type of player. This is why I think Cam is the best choice to get from the Nets, but yeah they want JK in exchange so they can't get him.
05:14 Curry grabbed his knee without any contact. Unless he can rest a whole month or so, peak Curry performance is very unlikely!!!
I mean yeah I doubt he's fully healthy. I'm not asking for peak Curry lol. I'm asking for at least 15 shot attempts a game and not 4 in the first half and 0 in the first quarter lol
Steph could be so much more dangerous on ball, get the shots he wants. Change the off-ball threat to someone like wiggs or kuminga.
Agreed, or an inverted pick and roll
Ya I was also not keen on Schroder starting with Steph, he seemed better as a backup point guard than taking on ball plays from Steph. Melton was really the perfect guy next to him, but Buddy isn't bad as a Klay replacement. And also still feel like we need a real second option next to Curry, none of these guys really scream 2nd star.
I mean, all that sounds great, but not sure if second option is feasible considering who's out here + salaries. But I think it's clear that Schroder needs to come off the bench, and stagger those minutes. Melton was obviously a better fit, but we can't say Melton is the reason they're now 15-13 lol
@@warriorsbreakdownYa it may not be probable but I feel like it's what we need, it's rare for a championship teams to not have that second option night and night out.
@@kennn30 Well they're not a championship level team lmao
Steph’s knees are on fire. He is trying to pick his spots when to be aggressive. This falls back on Coach Kerr. He needs to run plays for Buddy and Kumigua while Steph is hurting. If Kerr is not going to run plays for them then he needs to stop getting mad when they try and create something.
I had an earlier comment, if he really is hurting, then I prefer him to sit out and get healthy for the long season/playoffs. Now with Schroder, they should let others maximize their talents and change up the offensive system to match their personnel, but Kerr is pretty hardcore on his motion offense
@@warriorsbreakdown thing is stotts offense was working perfectly fine with this team. But once he received praise for his work from dray and other players, Kerr seems to have taken it right off like wtf
@@cringelevelunlocked7418 Idk where the narrative that it was Stotts offense and he changed it came from, I don't know where the source is and have no evidence myself haha
@@warriorsbreakdown check the games before first mavs game, and the ones after that you'll notice that have reverted back to motion offense after the mavs one for some reason unknown.
I am so tired and sick of watching Kerr sabotage this team every game. First, he blames the young players. Of the 7 turnovers they had in the first quarter, 95% of them were either Curry or Green. Secondly, he tdllz them to pass curry the ball. But the way he is using Steph, teams are isolating him with defense. So it is difficult to get him the ball at times.
Thirdly, he points out all the errors he made but turns around and di them the next game or worse.
Steph, Green needs to approach him about his coaching. If that does not work. Go to the owners and say they want to be traded. Hopefully, that would get something done. Right now it is painful to watch Warriors games. After seeing how things can be like at the beginning of the season.
Something is up either Steph is sick of Kerr or they are doing this for tinkering sake either way of sick of it
Sick of it for sure
I know this is obly semi related but the fact that the Warriors have been too small for like 4 seasons and the best they've done is get a 6'9" centre. What is going on?!
You ask me lol, they tried with a young Wiseman and that didn't work. I like Trayce and I think he will be solid. But he won't be solid if he doesn't get more than 15 fuckin minutes lmfao
Curry is really depressed. Misses Klay and the “old gang”.
Interesting take
Idk who will read this but it’s the truth. For 1, If curry is hurt, sit him down, point blank period.
2. NOBODY ON THE TEAM IS A THREAT TO SCORE UNLESS CURRY CREATES AN ADVANTAGE. We all have eyes. The defense against the warriors is “anybody but curry” So it’s either one of these two options…. Let curry create the advantage which means he needs to be involved in every play.(pick and roll or handoffs). Or trade for actual competent scorers. No curry is not washed. He can do the 2021 run easliy. But for what purpose? To run himself into the ground just to make the play in? It’s just not worth it. He will either request a trade. Or they will get the players he needs. He’s not going to come out here and average 33 points just to make the play in. & if he does. These will be the last few years he will be in the league. The miles will add up. The decision will be up to him but let’s not hurt our brains trying to figure out what’s going on. It’s in plain sight
To me, it looks like he’s physically not healthy (the knees), but he’s also checked out mentally. He has no energy in his defensive closeouts and loses his man constantly. And yeah, DS should be running the second unit. I wouldn’t mind seeing podz at the starting 2 with Steph seeing how he’s shot the 3 ball the last 4 games.
Also, Draymond shouldn’t be starting. He’s clearly not healthy, but he’s also the one making dumb turnovers in the first. JK should get the nod and start at the 4
If you're not healthy...then sit out and get healthy. It's a long season + playoffs, I don't want to hear excuses if you're on the court playing
Rarely see this channel scolding the Warriors like this, they really played bad recently 😂
I’ve been pretty pissed ngl. When was the last time they went 3-10??? Choking leads left and right? Worse than last year. It’s time to spray out some narratives haha
say it again stop using curry like he is jj reddick he is mfing steph curry he needs the ball in his hands more
Facts
Steph is a natural PG. not effective as SG
Exactly. I'm fine with spurts at SG to get him offball, but he needs the ball in his hands to start
Buddy should be the off ball decoy 🤔 Schroeder can be 2nd PG off the bench 🤔
I think it's becoming more and more clear that should be the case
Im glad even warriors breakdown is breaking those mind boggling plays. "We've been playing that for ten years", we shouldnt change and keep doing some outdated shit". - Kerr
Running a 2015 offense in 2024 like we got MVP Steph and prime Klay. Like come on, we gotta adjust
Fire Kerr...move on ..Only Kd made you look great as a coach but really he's mediocre.... Look at the Clips bunch of role players and using Harden even struggling without Klaw yet win games and beating contenders too...
I think Kerr is a good coach, but I think he's become overrated recently
Feeling strong influence of Jim Park in this video, he saying same things for years. Hope every basketball channel starting speaking similar stuff about Warriors, maybe someone in organization
will hear and make changes. Probably not, because Kerr does the same thing for 10 years and doesn't show any signs of changes. He’s probably one of those coaches who is too old and dogmatic, especially after it brought him success at first, he thinks it will always work despite the personnel on the team. Even though everyone on the team said that they needed to make changes and stop doing the same thing over an over again and hope for a different result.
I did not know of Jim Park until recently, this is my own perspective playing basketball my entire life as a shooter and watching Warriors for a long time. I don't think it takes a genius to recognize we should stop using our best player as a decoy "majority" of the time, and also the fact that small ball lineups with 4 guys under 6'6 is a fuckin joke. We don't have KD/prime Klay/Dray/Iggy anymore. We have Podz and Moses Moody and Buddy Hield. Let's please go big and play some interior defense, cuz the opponents are licking their lips in the paint everytime they see this midget lineup
@@warriorsbreakdown Agree. I hope to see more videos like this in the future to better understand what works and what doesn't. Also about personel , the players previously(Iggy, Shaun, West, Bogut) weren’t so fixated on their shot but were trying to find Steph in the first place, that’s why the movement system worked, Kerr mentioned this when he said what he expects from the players recently, but it’s not the players’ fault that they have there are no necessary skills for Steve’s system, it’s the coach’s ability to adapt to the players and their skills, mask their shortcomings and emphasize their strengths, unfortunately we don’t see this from Steve at all.
Steph salary, like those other superstar, is one of the killer.
@@majayjay06 yeah agree. i'm not saying from that angle. I am saying from caps limit angle. He should be rewarded, but there are various methods to do that
He's worth twice that much. It's just Dray/Wiggins are paid like they're #2/3, but not actually that option either
I don't think he's healthy, it's not the coach he's in pain.
Okay fair, then please sit and get 100% healthy for the long season + playoffs (hopefully)
Kerr, the owner and the veterans are failing this season. Curry should of sat out the Olympics because father time is here. 😢
He shouldn't have sat out the Olympics, that was important to him. But he should sit out if he's not feeling 100%
Steph is old and the system is cooked. Kerr keeps changing his mind about the line ups he wants to use and how he wants the team to play.
Either the motion offense has to largely end or you just blow up the team already and start the rebuild that is going to have to happen at some point soon anyway. This team is going nowhere. Both Steph and Dray are playing through injuries and even when healthy they don't have the energy to do what they used every game or even every week. People really got fooled by a few highlight games in the Olympics that Steph was still that guy. He's not, regardless of his gravity. Draymond should be coming off the bench permanently and JK should be playing 30+ minutes a night at the 4.
Truthfully if it were me I'd be shopping Steph for as much as i could get and rebuilding the team.
Shopping Steph? Yeah that's not gonna happen. L take
Steph , wiggins , kuminga , Dray , TJD
Denis , podz , buddy , Kyle , looney
Take out Podz for Moody and I’m good
They playing like they still got prime klay
Lol, they have a prime Dennis Schroder and would rather have him look for Curry offball. Like dude let him run a PnR with Kuminga/Trayce
Steph is definitely hurt and he's def regressing. People asking him to do more PnR forgets the fact that wr have atrocious shooters in the floor so spread PnR wouldnt be as effective.
Second, Draymond is regressing hard so PnR with Steph is gonna be easier to guard. Steph is also suffering a lot of turnover maybe due to his injuries so blitzing him in a PnR is making him troubles.
Moreover, he cant even attack slower bigs now bec of his injury and him getting older.
From these plays, every pick and roll led to a bucket or high quality look. They literally beat the Timberwolves three days ago in the 4th quarter from spamming pick and roll. No one is asking them to run it the full game, but doing it twice for your best player in a full half is absolutely comedic. If they trap the PnR, find a short roller that can get the ball and make a play
@@warriorsbreakdown because the Wolves has an atrocious PnR defense with Gobert. Other teams are not easily exploitable like that. Still, it is survivorship bias since you only showed the ones that fall through. Maybe try showing up the PnR where Steph threw a lot of turnovers because he is being smothered by a blitz and cant dribble around them anymore, or the short roller like Draymond cannot create a score bec he's not the same guy anymore, or Steph isolation against bigs where he cant get separation or he got blocked. Ofc he would look good once in a while in the same way I could also show highlights where their offense worked with him as a decoy.
This team rests on Steph's ability to create on-ball and off-ball and not just "coaching" or spamming pick and rolls. This team is not capable of running more spread PnR with how the roster is constructed and the current regression of Steph Curry.
Bruh.. I slam the table anytime i see another role player bringing the ball up when warriors are clearly in need of a bucket. Kerr has lost his mind!. Lol.
It's actually kinda funny watching Podz and his hair bouncing up and down bringing the ball up and leading to...literally nothing 95% of the time.
@warriorsbreakdown lol.u can't make it up.Kerr has lost it.The nuggets game this season confirmed it for me.When it got to money time,nuggets went directly to jokic for a bucket in the post every time.Kerr had the ball in wiggins' hands trying to run Steph off screens which got denied, then wiggins drove and fell down 😭😭.
@@drew-echoes Funny enough, that's not even the worse play I can think of with Wiggins lolll there are wayyyy worse plays haha
@@warriorsbreakdown Personally i also think curry at his age shouldn't be doing all that running.I don't think his legs can handle it anymore. Just make the game easier for him,give him the ball and let him pass out of double teams. Run about 5 off ball plays a game for him.Don't turn that man to Sam Hauser. Lmao.
@@drew-echoes Agreed
Steve Kerr is everything wrong with the universe
Lol
w video
We need Mark Jackson again..
lol nah we don’t haha
@ lmao Merry Christmas
let curry handle the ball at all times and let kuminga do the post...and this team will start winning again..
Idk about Kuminga in the post unless it’s a clear mismatch
@warriorsbreakdown but man always...a mismatch...since usaully defense switch everything...and sometimes guards are guarding him like Ja Morant, but a post of JK is way more better than a over passing and a contested 3s......
@@TheGreenFifty JK in the post is fine, but he just doesn't have a refined post game and often tries to foul bait, then proceed to miss free throws anyway. It's not the worst offense cuz the rest of the players are stagnant, but yeah
I can’t wait till steve kerr retires
Lol
I agree with most the vid but we get it, your more of a steph fan then warrior fan. Dont get frustrsted to the point u say an open wiggins middy aint a good shot or say jk tried to foul bait and show a clip of him actually getting fouled lol this starts with kerr who has been horrific for awhile, most yall just catching up
Do you not hear me complain about Steph being not aggressive the first half? That is literally me calling him out. My point with Wiggins was even HE wanted a pick and roll and shot an open 20 footer, it means he’s looking for his shot. You took my tone wrong
I've always been a PnR hater. I'd rather lose a bunch of games and have everyone touch the ball. That's just not a style of basketball I like to watch nor play. If all we do is put Curry in more PnR plays then it's just like Trey with Atlanta. Teams will figure it out in the playoffs.
The reason why the warriors style works so well is because defenders end up sticking to their man during the course of the game. And then ONCE we start using high PnRs then Steph has more room and space to score or pass it off to a hot and warmed up teammate.
Also, Steph doesn't have the physical body to run PnR that often. He's not as big as Luka or Lebron.
Right now, this is all we got. I think we should trade some of our assets to get someone. Who? I don't know. But hey that game against Indiana was fun. It's okay we lost. But I think we competed. Not like that Memphis game. lol
Dude, I literally never said spam pick and roll. Steph is 6'3 with shoes, he's not Luka/prime CP3/Lebron. But it doesn't have to be the other end of the spectrum too, when in the first half he had literally 2 or 3 on-ball pick and rolls set for him, with each resulting in a bucket. Then by the time its clutch time, Kerr 75% of the time spams pick and roll anyway. How are you expecting players to be in PnR rhythm, when Steph got 4 shots off in the first half? They were lucky they were within striking distance.
I'm saying a mixture of both. Start with motion offense, but get your superstar some fuckin looks. Give him the ball and let him bring it up, it's not hard. 0 shots in the first quarter is unacceptable, and not sustainable over a full game of your superstar
looks like we've found Kerr's burner account folks
@@petejackson3215 Lmfaoooo
Curry moves and relocates more than any other guard in the league playing off ball so saying he doesn’t have the body for it makes no sense
Kerr has been sabotaging this team for a while
now and it’s finally starting to show
Haha idk sabotage is the right word...but going 3-10 is hideous and they need a change. I'd rather Steph shoot 25+ shots and live with the results knowing teams will shell out to guard him (which opens up his teammates), vs letting the worse players get "going" before your superstar player
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Might be he's injured and has actually requested not to be used as the primary ball handler. Because it's almost too easy when he is on ball. But maybe he's actually trying to hold back? I get people are criticizing Kerr but is it possible he literally doesn't understand what, no offense, a few TH-camrs are noticing? There's got to be a reason?
If Steph Curry is injured, then sit out and recover until he's 100%. I don't know his status, but if you're playing, I'm assuming he's 100%. I could not tell you everything since I'm not an official coach, but I'm watching every single game and noticing a similar pattern in the Ls. And last night it was Steph acting in a JJ Redick role, while everyone else was creating for themselves. Call me crazy, but I believe it should be everybody else playing off of Steph when he has the ball, not the other way around
they doin 2 curry like wht detroit did with Barry sanders all those years!
I wish I knew this reference haha, not a football guy