How To Spot a FAKE "Authentic" Mitchell & Ness Throwback Jersey | BE VERY CAREFUL!!!!!
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Honestly if you can’t tell if it’s fake just rock with it. It’s still a quality jersey at the end of the day for over half the price
Wrong, a counterfeit jersey is bad. The money from sales go to bad stuff. I also will be not caught dead wearing a counterfeit
@@GCBlues45 what will happen if someone catches you wearing counterfeit? Straight to jail? No?
@@maximillianyanez6937,first off i will not be caught dead wear a counterfeit jersey to a game let a lone out in public. Also,just know you are stuck with it cause once you post it for sale online you broke the law. It don't even matter if you say its counterfeit its still illegal to sell anything counterfeit. I am working on getting the law passed on where it will be illegal to buy counterfeits.
@@GCBlues45 LOL. "go to bad stuff"
@@maximillianyanez6937 wearing is fine. Selling it is the issue
Not gonna lie, that fake one looks FIRE lmao, I wouldn't mind it if it's cheap
Great video! I personally have no problem wearing a fake. I’m not as worried about getting it dirty or ruining it. But it sucks that there’s people out here selling them as “authentic jerseys” knowing they’re fake. This video is extremely helpful!
Yeah that’s dirty
Daaaaamn! Just bought my first jersey, now you have me thinking. These jerseys are not easy to come by, so thank you for all the detail! Great job!
What’s good Rio, man I must say I’m not totally sold that these are fake. They are definitely different, which should give you enough to question them but unless jersey fakes stepped up another level, the fact they did the sublimation on the Vince Carter jersey almost perfect makes me think these can possible be real but just made from a different manufacturer. Great video bro. Helps the jersey world for sure
Agree 💯
@MutilatingScrewdriverFrenzy666 SixSixSix i dont think Rio is doing it on purpose, but the jerseys are a little different enough to question it.
You’d be surprised. Quality replicas are at the point where they’re identical to the real thing but you can’t just find them on any website and you’re definitely asking for trouble buying a second hand item. The shirt in the video is a mid tier replica prolly bought for around $20.
Take away the quality control argument. Mitchell and ness sent me a Dominique Wilkins jersey with the jock tag upside down. How did that pass quality control?
Thanks for the info. I just bought a "fake" #45 Jordan on Mercari the other day. I called the seller out and wanted a return or exchange because the jersey had broken stitching. They said to just keep it. I thought something was off. After I watched your video, I'm totally convinced it's a fake.
well if it costs $20-25 it must be
Yeah Vic Tor, it was "BRAND NEW" for $37. Should have known. 🤷🏽♂️
That literally screamed to good to be true lol.
I used to have the Champion replica back when I was a kid. Wish I kept it.
I would personally buy both. The real and authentic jersey I would frame, the fake jersey I would wear to games or festivals because it would most likely get dirty anyway.
I would too, Official jerseys are too expensive for one to get it dirty and all
My honest opinion, I don't think there's a such thing as "unauthorized authentic" I don't think the terms unauthorized & authentic go together. It's either authentic, unauthorized, replica/fake.
Nike sells replica jerseys.
We need a video like this! Great job real. I wouldn’t go too crazy over the bubbles on the numbers. I got a jersey from Mitchell and Ness and the numbers have bubbles on em, I’m guessing some go the cracks. But this is definitely a fake jersey. Keep up the great video Rio!
Love the vids rio I ain’t gone lie I got tons of them UA jersey if I can’t get the authentic I prefer to go that route rather than over paying someone for the slight difference but I wear my stuff
Hey @NoBrakes what do u mean by UA jersey? Where do you find them?? Lmk plz thx
Never buy ANYTHING from Hong Kong or CZN sellers...you can guarantee it's going to be fake/unauthentic unless that is what you are looking to get. Ebay and other sites are populated with Hong Kong sellers selling replica sneakers, replica action figures, replica clothing and jerseys and etc.
Not to mention their customer service and shipping is Basura... too much Russian roulette when u can get it from Amazon.
Thank you for this video Rio! I am selling an estate with a ton of M&N jerseys. From watching your video I can tell some of the fakes from the real.
UA taking over 2021 lol.. a lot of people have already switched over.. same quality for half the price
Why fake it though. Rock something else if that’s the case
Facts. Audios Scalpers!
@@dizy91 why? So we have to pay scalpers because they bot these things? All of us can afford retail, but most of us don't enjoy to get railed by some scalpers from behind. It's a jersey, made in china for pennies, people whining about this are not all that bright. People should be able to wear whatever they want, paying hundreds and thousands above retail for a color is dumb
@@dizy91 you're hiding behind Kobe Bryant and actually have the audacity to make that ignorant ass statement 🤣😂🤦🏾♂️
@@gocryaboutitlol how is that ignorant? It’s facts why buy something that’s fake if it’s not within your means? Especially when there’s fakes floating around and people try to buy something legit and they get scammed.
Lol i respect the vid but you are wildin, both your jerseys for both teams were authentic, definitely not fake, just made different factories more than likely. I have purchased 4 jersey from nba store usa this past year as well and 1 didn't have a QC tag so it happens sometimes or perhaps fell off or maybe snuck around somehow but rest assure its still authentic. Respect that you being thorough but i believe they were all authentic but just made different standards, the differences you pointed out really were not bad at all like the cut and very slight color shade. The tags and jock tag is the most important parts and from what i see all are still legit. Even both NbaStore tag fonts including the all caps version is on both my jerseys as well.
How's the jersey sizing for authentics bro? I'm a Medium on Nike Swingman, and go Large if I want a loose fitting.
you mind sharing the website where you got the fake ones from ? thanks
Great unauthentics man, price wise?
Also, you have to take in consideration that the factories are kinda like a franchise, they have the materials that they use for the “authorized” ones, they are know to use the same materials from the same factories and “replicate” the “authorized” ones and sell them on whatever market.
Damn! Thank, brother. Just checked my autographed Iverson jersey and no QC sticker. Double checked my jordan M&N and the QC sticker was there. Both from 2018. I hope I can still get my money back from PayPal but I doubt it. Either way, now I know. Great content! Subscribed.
Was it a significant price difference on the “UA” opposed to the authentic?
fakes are 15-30 bucks
One thing "UA's" never get correct when it comes to shoes, and now even jerseys, is the correct shade of color. It's always slightly off.
Thanks for looking out for your fellow collectors. But in my opinion, I don't think that the jerseys you bought from Hong Kong are fake. I think that those jerseys did not pass the quality control check and should have been destroyed instead of being resold. I will explain why I think that way. I am new to jersey collecting but I collect many other collectibles. For those other collectibles, there can be small differences in details depending on the factory that produced the item. They are called "variants" by the collectors and some of the rarer variants are in greater demand. This is more common in coin collecting, for example. Variants also exist in some Masters of the Universe toys that were produced by different factories in the 80's. The fake jerseys that you showed have too much attention to detail and strong similarity to the real ones that makes it more probable that they originated from a Mitchell & Ness factory rather than from a third party factory producing fakes. It would take too much time, skill, and money for someone to produce fakes of that quality. Based on my experience, attention to detail is generally lacking with fakes because those people want to earn "quick and easy" money. Thus, although I can be wrong, I truly believe that what you have are "factory rejects" rather than counterfeit jerseys.
This is some good insight
Prob just Asian version
A B vairient like Nike shoes maybe
Fake still looks good🤷🏽♂️💯 beats paying 300$ for material
My jersey looks like the real one same stitching inside the jersey and tag inside but didn't come with the barcode sku number. Is it real or fake?
damn… if you dnt mind me askin big dog but where did you get the UA jersey?? thats the best lookin jersey i seen hands dwn.
hows the size/fit comparison? I know the fake NFL jerseys seem to run bigger/ larger...are these about the same or is one larger?
I think you got a rejected ones or a smuggled items, just my opinion.😽✌🏼✌🏼 i had before a MN authentic MJ 98 finals with white zip tag and i dont see any flaws or bubbles, nor abnormal cut with the body. It also have a qc pass sticker on washtag.
The cut on the fake jersey looks way better, I'm a man and I don't need no hourglass cut, that would fit alot better on a woman lol
Trust me, the hourglass fit comes in clutch! Love the cut!
@@theblackmambaplague Not if you have love handles lol
Great video! I own the Mitchell & Ness Toronto Raptors Vince Carter jersey. Do you have a jersey collection video?
I have a Barry Samders throwback 96 Reebok Mitchell and Ness jersey and can’t tell if it’s a real or fake and one have any tips or extra tricks to tell
Numbers are stitched on*
I'm pretty sure both are authentic and one is USA run and one is china run. Both are legit Mitchell & Ness, just USA version vs China version.
Do it matter if the description of the jersey on a web page say made in china?
I recently bought the Mitchell and Ness Authentic 1985 Walter Payton Home Jersey from Fanatics. This is the second one of this exact jersey I have bought, with first one coming through Macy's, I just needed a larger size. The one I received from Fanatics today had a serious flaw in that all the burnt orange stripe colors and number and name trim was so faded it looked like orange sherbert and not the actual deep burnt orange the Bears use. The difference between the jerseys was night and day when I laid them next to each other. Still the same great quality Mitchell and Ness is known for but this is clearly a quality control issue on the screened numbers and stripes. Sending it back and will try again. I will call Mitchell and Ness to give then a heads up as well.
Did you go to the legit Fanatics? The reason I asked is,people in China steal images from the legit Fanatics sites & use them on their site. I mean they even go as far saying they are Fanatics when they really are not.
@@GCBlues45 Sure did. Sent the jersey back for a full refund.
How do you find the double stitched 🧵 UA jerseys they are hard to find?
Actually I want to buy a jersey on e bay but there is a lot of them and some of them costs double than the others it’s really hard to identify if they are replica/fake specially because it’s not possible to see it personally! Thanks for these advices I will pay attention on my next purchase!
Nigga I just got one a size medium , I tried on the medium at downtown locker room and it fit me like a large , it was cut big . I ordered TMAC Orlando size Medium on eBay , won a bid for 25 bucks. I can’t lie I cannot tell but it just fits me so small it’s a medium but feels too snug . Nothing like the one I tried on but same exact jersey 🫠 I don’t think anyone would know and I’ll still wear it but it def got me thinking if it’s too good to be true
They're even making unauthorized jerseys that looks authentic 😮 Jeez! Folks really gotta be careful.
Tell them they're fake and they have no other choice but to lower the price :) also they look exactly the same
Yo do you think that there were real ms jerseys until it went thru qc an it didn't pass? Then they was supposed to be destroyed but they wear stolen and then sold on the black market
No or else the colors and smooth letters would be the same as the ones that pass
How much did you pay for the fake?
Great video Rio ! aye I would have rocked the UA jerseys and kept my retail jersey on ice. I rock retail and UA and them UA joints saved me a ton of times when it came to stains and rips. Nice vid fam 🫡
Good idea keep original crispy for the bag down the road wear the other one round friends who most will never know...still a little ticked when selling Rep as real...because the sizing is always off which is the main annoyance when wearing...
Bro I think their good, im not a super sport nut or know every detail. But I've been collecting jerseys (specifically nba) since 2001. Stopped for awhile and went snkrhead route. Cameback bout 3 4 years ago. Since then I've learned alot about mitchell and nees. I learned they have different runs every couple of years. They get their jerseys made in different countries and different factories. That could be the reason because I live 15 mins away from the store in Philly. I know people who buy the same player same jerseys when they restock them and they are always made and cut different. I'm in jersey groups on fb that's the biggest problem they have on there because mitchell and ness keep making the jerseys different so something like this can happen to a person who's not heavy into jerseys. But hey it's your bread, it don't look right don't buy because I know me, if I feel it's off it's gonna irritate me forever and it's from HK . It's 2021 it could be a UA lol 💯
Preach just shoes its comes with flaws i seen replicas look better then retail its but ain’t nobody gone be all up on yoi to try figure out if it’s real or not just wear it but yeah sometimes it do bug me when i feel its fake but growing cause the sneaker/ material culture is getting crazy
I can see the color difference on both Jerseys... I can see the slight stitching difference as well... IMHO those minor differences won't persuade me to spend $175-$300 on a Jersey I can get from China/Hong Kong (where 95% of our shit in the US comes from Anyways) for $34.95... Besides if someone is looking that damn hard at my Jersey(which I doubt) then they need to find them a better hobby...
Not trashing your video at all but just speaking from an economical sense... but I appreciate u taking the time to note the similarities/differences because I was curious.
Thats why he said if you buy a fake jersey and are happy with it's fine! You can't afford a real jersey it's fine aslong as you know what you're purchasing. Just would suck if you tried selling it as real to someone that does care if it's fake.
@@calpha6458 not about affording lmao some people have the money but still find it stupid to pay so much more just to have an extra sticker on the inside that no one will ever see
@@ultradream4102 its funny how you think it's just a sticker difference lmao I can tell you've never had an authentic. It's ok buddy
@@calpha6458 ironic because I own more real ones than fake ones lmao. Got a real harden, kobe, carter, Westbrook and fake tmac and jalen green. U probably the same typa people to flex a lil gold bracelet, money ain't reflected in the price of what u wear lil bro.
Thank you. Some fakes are great have features real jerseys don't. But there are people catching people out there saying this $22 jersey is an authentic & they selling it for $150+. Thank you.
Sometimes these contracted factories over order on supplies , because you have to .. say Mitchell and Ness order 1,000 #45s.. they get materials for 1200 (give or take) in case there are accidents or mistakes.
They keep the mistakes or the extra materials and make the lot of what they have left over. Sell it on the black market.😊
cost on each individual jersey?
Glad you were able to be reimbursed. 🙃
I recently got a muggy bogues jersey for my son, while he was wearing it, I noticed the name on top of the hardwood classics tag says “MugGy Bogues” instead of “MuggSy Bogues”. I saw the same one on some website, it had the same spelling mistake, and it was kids size. Can someone tell me if it’s fake or not.
If the name is misspelled, it's a fake.
Question are you still gonna rocc the fake Jersey or not??..🤷🏿
Biggest tell for fake jerseys is the cross stitching on the jock tag. On MLB jerseys they will even have it on the sleeve patch.
Where did you but the fake I need 1 asap
Your real Vince Carter jersey has a few minor flaws. The basketball in the raptors hand should be touching the black stripe and the nba logo should be slightly left of the grey stripe
Honestly, you can also tell by the wieght of the jersey. Fakes are really light, real ones are kind of heavy.
It’s not fake,just didn’t pass MnN quality control and someone manage to sneak them out of the factory.
If it looks official I’m rockin it.
Maybe like sneaker production factories, it could be possible they were produced in a different factories?
working at the Mitchell & Ness store I’ve seen authentic Mitchell and Ness jerseys have a few of the characteristics that’s on the “fake” one has but the Jock Tag and the Inner tags on the fake are definitely a dead giveaway
The easy main way to tell is the name where its stitched theres thread connecting the letters on the name on the fakes the real ones the name every letter is stitched separate
I have a Jacket (kid size 11) Chicago is spelled "CIHCAGO". And on the back it says CHICAGA under the regular logo. I'm glad I didn't buy it. I friend ask me to see what I could find out.
The Cut on the right is correct M&N cut is wrong they make there jerseys based on Champion style ProCuts but champion don’t have a hour class shape it’s just a looks that way bc of how the ends are split at the bottom.
Where did you cop the UA jersey from ?
I have a lbj rookie jersey from 2003 i gave it to my brother it was authentic but tbh the throwback craze is OVER it was alive n well in 2002-2003 but now in 2020 NOBODY WOULD KNOW THE DIFFERENCE
BIG FACTS. This the best comment on how back in our day that real vs fake SHII mattered. Where today it DONT matter as long as it’s not a blatant fake and close to real as possible. GO FOR IT these companies don’t pay my bills or work my long hours either so if I can shave a dollar I’m all for it
I just got a “Swingman” Dominique Wilkins jersey from eBay and it is definitely not Swingman. It is more similar to the NBA Authentic but it is still off. It is a good quality knockoff but I am also convinced it is a fake. Fortunately I only paid about $35 for it. It is only the second jersey I have purchased and I only have a Swingman Kareem jersey to compare it with. The differences I notice are the tags are not the same. The Nique is more flexible material on the Mitchell and Ness tag on the left side of the waist. Also the 1986-87 tag is felt but it is nicer material on the Kareem. It could almost pass as an NBA authentic but it doesn’t look exactly like that tag from the Mitchell and Ness website either. Another difference is the striped trim around the neck and arms is a thicker material on the Kareem.
No worries just enjoy it without worries of messing it up or having a wild night with it unlike the real ones man once they mess up that's 300$ gone lol
Wow didn't know I could get scammed with jerseys thanks for the video
They look really similar
I'm seeing a lot of these "UA" jerseys selling for 35-55 bucks in the US nowadays when you look at spots like ebay. I'm thinking the jerseys have reached a price point where its actually worth it to get the fake... I got a ton of jerseys and in NY there's only about 3/4 of the year to wear em in... I figure I'm gonna wear them for 30 times in my life each? might even be a stretch. Idk if authenticity is worth 5-8x the money when you look at it like that.
I thought the inside shouldn’t have that paper stuff still attached?
So u kept the jerseys and money?..
First of all:
All of the Jerseys are made in China. And made in different factories. Different factories have slight manufacturing tolerances. If you ever dealt with Asian clothing manufacturers you will understand.
There will be tolerances in the fit and finish for Western and Asian sold Jersey's!!!!
NBA store is selling worldwide. The proportion and sizing fit of Asian compared to Western is all different. One being curved the other being straight line is all down to the shape of the people from different countries. Asians are shorter than Western people. This is exactly why they need to make them little shorter.
In Asia Mitchell Ness stores sell them with the plastic tags. I have even seen that the lettering is printed differently (small and bigger font). This does not indicate that it is FAKE. Jerseys are made in different years. And NOT ALL at once. So many variables change, also the printing of the paper tags and care labels change over the years!
The label not having the bar code means that they have yet to stick it on for sale. And some people in the factory have "Taken" it for resell on the market. Or they have not passed some QC inspection. The ones with the bar codes indicate that they are ready to be shipped and sold in your Country. Believe it or not, all barcodes are different.
Just because it is offered for half the price of the US product doesnt mean it is fake. First, you have to factor Tax, Shipping Fees and other fees that is due in Western Countries. In Hong Kong for example, there is ZERO TAX on things you buy! China being next to Hong Kong, the people that "took" the jerseys from the Factory can sell it for far less in Hong Kong.
Regarding the QC sticker on the care label, understand that this process is made by human process. Factory workers make mistakes and forget to stick on them.
It is also true that the ones you bought without the QC stickers were indeed inspected and didn't meet the quality standards. As seen by the bubbling of the numbering. In this case , the factory kept those to sell via unofficial methods. You think they will destroy things that can be resold for $$$?? Mitchell Ness squeezes the factories of their margins as it is!
In a nutshell, they are all made on order from Mitchell Ness in different factories where manufacturing tolerances exist. Please educate yourself first before you make baseless claims.
There are indeed fake jerseys, but they are all made in small factories that don't possess the knowhow and YES, those will be made terrible all the way to being acceptable fake. BUT will never be up to the standard of the "fake" 45 jersey you are calling out for, which was made in one of Mitchell Nesses factories but didn't pass their QC.
Please do not make these videos when you have zero experience and knowledge in garment manufacturing. You are making Asian sellers who sell legit products (not meeting QC or simply forgotten QC sticker) look bad.
Wait isn’t Mitchell and ness a company that sells replicas?? So pretty much this video is about replicas of replicas?? Because they both look like real jerseys to me! And both aren’t authentic nfl jerseys anyway and I’d only wear it to a game or for a game on tv anyways which I’d probably get dirty anyways so I’ll just go with the cheaper replica
It’s weird cause the backing not being pulled off is usually on the fakes.
You bought a factory flawed jersey and I’m pretty sure I know who you bought it from. There’s certain sellers on grailed and ebay who sell these kind of jerseys for low prices. Most people won’t notice but these jerseys will have flaws. I bought 2 jerseys myself from one of these sellers and the stitching was pretty bad.
So my girl got me the raptors jersey and it never had the QC sticker on the tag. Do you still think its real without it? everything else seems legit and I know she got it from the main website.
They all have the QC stickers from the websites
Is it any way I can send photos of mine to tell authentic
Great vid I just got a Mays 24 jersey XXXL didn't "Pay Attention" to noticing it was from China until shipping was more 2weeks...was a little concern then when I received it a little sooner thought ok must be serious seller...1st look I was concern it didn't look like a true XXXL to my eyes...then neck opening was too small had to force over head...length was tolerable but width definitely not correct also stitching was frayed a little at edges of numbers and his name on jersey still for $50 even though ticked off for promoting as REAL but could get over it better if the fit was on point...QUESTION?...why by now does China & India replicas continue to have sizing issues they know we are just Bigger in America by now Dang com'on...we wouldn't be so disappointed if they at least got the sizing right because the items would feel better on our bodies while wearing them!💯🤔
Stick to buying directly from Mitchell and ness or a reputable place like hibbett sports.. online independent sales are always sketch
I was looking at a Kobe Bryant “authentic” and the NBA logo was wayyyy lower than the Larry O’Brien trophy on the left side of the jersey. But wants authentic prices! 🤦🏻♂️
Great vid brotha salute 💪🏽
So would you agree that a Mitchell and Ness without a caretag is fake?
could be fake or could just be pieces that didn't pass the QC and also could be different factories or different markets so they could vary
They look fake to me too. The ones on the left look good, or at least better.
They’ve been making fake Mitchell & Ness for YEARS …can show you pics of some good ones from back in 2004-05 i got when i was a teen , stitching was great then …throwback bucks & golden state
I don’t think its a fake.
VERY CLEAR BRO.... THANK YOU!!!!!
People pay good money to have authentic things. Would suck to pay retail on something fake. It matters if you don’t want to be scammed.
You could have a fire fit on but a reject with it just negates everything. If your outfit was plus ten in your favor then a reject turned it around to a negative ten. These are the kind of jerseys that the Mafia put on people before throwing them into a river! BTW when I saw Karl Malone wearing L.A. Gear I knew from that point on he would never win a NBA championship.
Them the best fakes I've ever seen in my life
I've been in the jersey game since 2000 and I can tell the fake
I just got a authentic jersey from Mitchell and ness and it was a snug fit but mine was bout straight from the store so I have no worries about it being fake at this price I’m not gonna pay for fake jerseys that’s not right color wise and everything else
Technically, both jerseys are replicas. I’m sure if you compare the ‘real’ replica to the real jersey from the time period, there will be differences.
It's not a replica if it's coming from a legit company wtf are you talking about? The jerseys players wore? These are made way different but still are licensed companies.
@@calpha6458 Look up the definition of the word 'replica'. Any jersey made from a past era made in the current day is default a replica. You can have an officially licensed replica and you can have an unlicensed replica. The difference between the 2 is one paying royalties fees and one is not. The licensed replica may or may not be using the original pattern design template and original fabric. Let's be real, highly unlikely they are using the same fabric mill as in the past. Also questionable if they are using the same archive, pattern maker. But bottom line- it's a replica! Just because you pay more from an authorized licensed company does not make it not a replica.
In other countries, they sell more m&n AU white-tag jerseys and declare them as legit fuck!
At the end of the day it’s the same material where it falls short is the quality control the only difference is there buying them from China and selling them to you with strict quality control vs you buying them from China yourself rolling the dice but for the price difference.. $50 vs $150
On everything I need the plug on those fakes. Those are good ass fakes! And I got like 10 fakes in my closet as we speak!
Maybe they're both real, just different year production?
Just not that serious.
Id say the only issue would be paying full price, that aside theyre both too close to call. Fakes both in jerseys and shoes have really stepped up big time in recent years. Unfortunate result of sweat shop labor.
Not everyone can afford a $300 Mitchell and Ness jersey and honestly based on what it probably cost to make it they shouldn’t have to pay that much. I’m all for affordable knockoff jerseys.
I don’t think it’s fake. It most likely didn’t pass quality control and was given to another company to sell.
Can you link the Shop for the fake jersey pretty nice
Honestly, I doubt people will roast you if you have a fake jersey. It's not like shoes where you deserve to get flamed if you are wearing fakes.
Right,.. real or fake. Both of those jerseys are still cold and sick to wear!!!
Hey what’s the website you bought the replica jersey?
There are variations on legit Mitchell and Ness, I’ve bought several Dodgers jerseys that have some differences, I’m a pretty serious jersey head, and I’ve yet to see fakes like this.