GT500 all the way just because it's a Shelby? Like come on now. You would get so much more attention and it would be worth more down the road! No matter how good the GT is, it's not a Shelby.
@Dj d Well the first year super snake's especially the rare shelbys with the 427 package. I own a Convertible 07 super snake with the 427 package 1 of 3 car's
@Dj d The year 2012 Shelby 1000 car's and the most valuable are the 50th aniversrey super snake's.Shelby built 50 white and 50 black also the 14 signature series super snakes.
@Dj d Not just because I own one of the 44 convertible super snakes for 2007 with the 427 package. I really think that the 427 SS for 07 maybe big money in the future. I base the 07 427 package car's on history. There a tribute to a 427 cobra and everyone knows what kind of money they bring in.Speed and how fast a car is doesn't always make it more valuable than other car's. Lol a 65 gt350 is about a half a million buck's and continue to rise.So performance not all the time automatically make a mustang better than the other car's
Shelby GT500 all the way. Proud owner of a 2010 Grabber Blue GT500 with white stripes here. Wouldn't trade it in for anything but another Shelby GT500. Great video and awesome 07 GT500. Go Team Shelby!
Nice man in have a 900hp 10 grabber blue shelby supersnake. Insane power everywhere.My 07 convertable 427 edition supersnake makes roughly 650 hp.Then my 08 850hp 850tq.The power in the shelbys are instant.They pull so hard and it doesn't stop like for say my 93cobra or my 87 mustang GT. They hit 55hundred RPM and there done.Not 500s and even more with my supersnakes.
Trey Gotti I guess cars are becoming disposable items. If I like something, I tend to keep it forever, even cars. I have a Toyota T100 truck that I have had since 1996. It's still a great truck even though there are better trucks out there now. It's hard to resist wanting and buying bigger and better things, but it's a race no one can win. At this point with cars, it's just an ego thing.
I remember watching this video back in the day when I sold my 2017GT to get my 2012 GT500. Still gotta thank Alex for convincing myself to get my dream car.
I had a lightly modded 07 500. The car ran consistent 11.80s on drag radials and I drove it to 110,000 miles before I traded it in. I had ONE problem in 4 years, I snapped clutch cable at the track.
Love the video and love your sense of humor lol i work in a welding shop so we speak the same language. L&m did a great job with those cams. They sound great and give good power. I would honestly choose a 2010 GT500 over an S550 any day. I love all mustangs especially the coyotes and the terminator but something about the GT500 man idk. Maybe it’s the history behind it. I’m pretty excited to see what they’re going to do with the new GT500!!
I test drove a 2019 Bullitt, and I own a 2007 GT500. I did like aspects of the newer interior and the new body is growing on me. It handled really nice and was very smooth. Sounded great too. It just didn't have that raw, powerful feeling I want a muscle car to have. My Shelby was just so much simpler and way more powerful.
Really appreciate this video, had my 07 Shelby for awhile( has the vmp intake tune 2.5 on the stick blower) car did good and made 550/544. Found a deal on a 16gt I could not pass up. Been going back and forth on which to proceed modding with. Video really helped swing my vote back to the Shelby. Really looking to pick up a gen2r or even a gen 2.
I just bought an 2015 5.0 convertible for 35000 with tax car has 2k miles 20 inch wheels with pirreli pckg and 2 year left on the bumper warranty. Cheapest convertible 2011-2012 gt500 was 36k plus tax. Just sold an 2009 viper with 3.55 gears and exhaust so already had a fast car. I think comes down to personal preference. I like the looks of s550, more and quick enough for a summer daily car. And the fact that i drive a brand new car is nice too.
Ive owned so far an s550, a shelby, and a boss 302 currently. I MISS my shelby a lot. I had the blower ported and a different pully and that fucker was fast and probably my favorite car ive ever owned. The s550 though, dont get me wrong the interior is great and all but if you are looking to get attention in an s550 unless it has a lot of work done to it youll just be another mustang driver as seen by others on the road
mapko15 u beat me to it. last week omw home i found a 2011 gt500 black, gps, shaker500, sync, and svt package with 30something thousand miles for $32,900 here in oklahoma. if i were under different circumstances, i would have for sure part ways with my 13 5.O. i checked for it a couple days ago to show a buddy of mine and it was sold.
Going to LA this weekend picking up a 07 gt500 all stock .. from an elderly man who only put 5 thousand miles on it bought it new .. all paper work and certification for wait for it . 16,800 cash 💵.. he’s 80 and has kept up with the maintenance.. I think I lucked out .
Love this video, questions like these is exactly what I think about and want to know. Explain what you can do and for about how much, then make a decision that best fits you. Subscribed and have been watching/enjoying the videos, honestly don't understand some of the parts/upgrades you refer to , but I'm learning and getting familiar from them, a lot actually. Keep them up, I think they are great
I own a 2016 Mustang GT convertible with PP and a 2007 GT500 convertible. I will take the GT500 all day long over the S550. The GT500 is a better platform to modify IMO. The TR6060 is a far better transmission compared to the MT82. The s550 is probably a better daily driver because of the technology advancements in the last 10 years i.e. SYNC 3, blind spot monitoring and adaptive CC. Again I would choose the GT500 over the S550.
Making me consider buying a stang. The numbers don't lie. I'm a chevy guy and built my caprice to be able to play with today's stangs Camaros and chargers etc. I have accomplished my goal it wasn't cheap. But cat is a great sleeper. But the gt500 would be a great car to keep and maintain value as investment.
I can personally say that I own both. I love my GT500 it's is equipped with a ton of VMP gear ... and I also own a 2017 GT convertible with an automatic... I love both cars. But if you're saying bang for buck it's definitely the GT500 all day long. Because to get the same comfort in a GT Mustang you're going to have to go with the premium package. The GT500 come standard with leather seats.. mustang GT does not.. and the list goes on and on. If you're going to buy used definitely get a GT500...👍🏻😳😳👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻😎😎😎
turbosaleen347 Leather seats? You do know leather wears out WAY faster then cloth, and leather blows in the hot and freezing cold weather conditions, sticky sweaty people's legs and shit, leather just fucking sucks in general and the fact your comparing the quality of the seats lmao gtfoh
Kernal29 that's your opinion and you are entitled to it... but to be so nasty as to tell me to GTFOH.. wow look out everybody we got a key for Rambo over here.... I will never own a vehicle with cheap ass nasty fucking cloth interior... and that is how I feel.. and I'm sure manufacturers around the world feel the same way because all of their top tier vehicles come with leather.. not nasty ass fucking cloth ... but anyway have a nice day or don't 😂😂😂🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
turbosaleen347 Nasty ass fucking cloth? Go look up the vehicle I'm driving right now 2017 Ford Mustang Blacked Out w/ Cloth seats and carbon fibre dash and side panels. If anything is nasty it's leather after 1 year of having leather it wears out gets crinkled it doesn't last long and gross sweaty greasy sticky people plus yourself sitting in your vehicle ew.
Kernal29 you make me laugh 😂.. so I guess your cloth seats don't absorb sweat 💦.. I know my seats are nice and cooled so I don't sweat in them .. plus my seats are 5 years old and still smell and look brand new .. 😜😜😜😜😜😜😜
turbosaleen347 Well for one you don't sweat in them as badly and for two your lying cause i bet if we inspected them they'd smell like piss and shit and be worn out to shit but yeah if that's what your about cool brotha.
Alejandro, first time I have watch your video and I want to congratulated you for the great content and knowledge, Carajo al fin un Latino doing cars stuff in youtube.
Yeah but how much did it cost for all those add on because the car maybe supercharged but it's not that much faster. Now I can tell the car your driving is fast and it looks great! I chose a 2017 gt and I'm really enjoying it. Plus once Ive supercharged it I take a s550 all day. Hell one inch lowering springs with IRS...
Clean93GT The Boss is a much better choice than either the 550 or the Shelby. If I had not have wanted a convertible, I would have bought a Boss. The Shelby's are too heavy and drive like a boat. The 550's come with a shitty transmission and clutch and it has electronic steering which takes away from road feel.
@@3644Darrell boss has electronic steering too so does gt500s and regular 5.0s from 2011 onward. The older iron block gt500 was just over 3900 lbs which isnt much more than a loaded s550 which is prob above 3800 and the 11-14, aluminum block gt500s are just 3800 lbs also. A head unit upgrade for a gt500 is alot less money than a blower for a 5.0 that is one advantage to it already being supercharged plus you have tons of torque everywhere down low even on the stock blower compared to an s550. I love the boss but it has the same "shitty trans" s550 has the mt82. Gt500s also sound better than coyotes and they chop with cams the old fashioned way no need for a cam tune. They have a more old school muscular sound than the coyote deeper and meaner like the old 5.0s and the old 4.6s too they all got the same firing order the coyotes is different that is why it has a more high pitch euro sound it sounds good too but I prefer the old 4v 5.4 in the gt500. Has a much more old school raw muscular feel compared to an s550 and it isnt just the older chassis and solid axle the long stroke 5.4 just by nature makes alot more low end torque than a coyote even without a blower add in a positive displacement blower on top and they are torque monsters and very fun on the street even with a stock blower. You can make them handle pretty damn well if that is what you wanna do with the car. It depends how you wanna set it up they don't do that bad even stockish lowered on some nice rubber. There is alot to like about the old gt500s. Depends on what you want. If sync 3 and big screens fancy stereos and other creature comforts matter more to you get an s550. Depends on what you want.
@@midnight347 yeah, I forgot the Boss has the MT-82. For the life of me, I don't know what they were thinking when they decided to go with that transmission. I track my car and do autocross so a supercharger is out; they get too hot. The GT500's make a great drag car though. I haven't driven a newer GT500, I have just driven an 07 and I didn't like it. It was the first time I had driven a Shelby and I guess I expected fireworks and pure joy, but I wasn't impressed. My 07 GT is a lot lighter and more nimble, but I have over 10 grand in my suspension so mine rides and handles completely different than other Mustangs. If I just had another 100 horsepower, I would be thrilled. I don't like all the fancy new stuff on cars. I grew up driving a 66 GT with a built and balanced engine with around 350 hp in a 2,750 lb. car so I like a car without any luxuries except for air conditioning, power windows and door locks. The 05-09 are as close as I can get to a 65-68 in a modern car. I would like to drive a Boss on a track just to see how it feels, but with a different transmission. I got to drive a 2014 GT MT-82 in a place where I could drive fast to test it out and I hated the trans. even more after I experienced it. It also didn't handle worth a crap.
What about 07-12 GT500 vs. 11-14 Coyote? Won't the coyote always make more power on the same blower (and be lighter)? Also the older cars can't support flex fuel.
Neither is designed to take flex fuel but the GT500 will support it better than the coyote mustangs due to the twin pumps and drivers. As far a power vs torque go's, the 5.4 mod motor is just a low compression, tall deck, long stroke 4.6 and the 5.0 is a high compression big bore 4.6. The long stroke is why the GT500 makes more torque than the 5.0. And the 11-14 GT500 motors are all aluminum so when you put a positive displacement blower on a coyote you'll be at about the same weight as well.
AKDMB Always make more power? No. The Coyote's advantage is that it is an 11:1 engine from the factory with 210-212 degree duration cams with .~.470" lift from the factory. (versus 07-12 GT500 @ 8.4:1 and 184 degree .390" lift) Give both engines 11:1 and well match aftermarket cams and the GT500's 5.4 makes more power everytime. The GT500 heads outflow Coyote heads stock and ported (especially on exhaust side) and the extra displacement also comes into play. Built to built (properly), Condor/Trinity > Coyote. More cubes and better heads easily outperforms VCT.
I know blast from the past but curious if in 2023 you still think this? Considering an older gt500 as a cool weekend car. I’ve already had a gen1 and gen 2 coyote. The 05-09 body style is one of my favorites. Just curious on your thoughts
@@YDBT4LIFEHEY ALEX FORGIVE ME FOR ASKING AGAIN I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT YOU SAID LOL BUT MY QUESTION IS HOW MUCH POWER CAN MY 08 GT500 MAKE AT THE TIRE LOL MAX POWER IN YOUR OPINION FROM TUNING THEM.
07-09...the typical simple mods. If you want it to handle, throw some Steeda stuff on it. Doesn't mattter for highway pulls, road trips or Taco Bell at 2am
@@everarmed_89 the only thing worse about 07-09 if you wanna call it that is the stock clutch, has a heavier iron block but it's also stout and easily replaced for cheap if something happens compared to the super expensive aluminum blocks. They do not have widenand 02 for afr but that can be added for few hundred bucks and they don't have knock sensors but that can be a good thing alot of guys have trouble with false knock causing issues especially on the earlier cars 10-12 the first ones to have the knock sensors. Long as you go with a reputable tuner who's familiar with these and tuned them since the beginning you'll be fine. They can make good power as good as the later ones do and they're little more raw and some prefer the look some like 10 up I like an 07-09 with 10 up treatment (centered letters on trunk, body colored mirror covers, 13-14 style taillights with some tint on the front lights etc) these things can do alot for updating the look of the earlier cars. I have an 07 that is like this currently just bolt ons with 550 rwhp and f14 drag pack. I'm bout to throw a gen3r on it with bigger injectors and pump boosters and make 750+ on 93/boostane with a 2.6 upper only with a small twin 65 tbody and stock headers. The 07-09 make same power as 10-12 once running an intake and tune on both the earlier cars just pick up more power with those mods compared to 10-12 because those had better intake and tune stock so less room for gains in aftermarket. Once they're running the same blower 07-14 all make pretty comparable power with the same supporting mods etc. The blower is 95% of the power difference on 13-14 cars and its super easy to get an 07-12 to bolt on 13-14 numbers by swapping the same or better blower.on the 5.4. They all have 800 rwhp ceiling on stock driveline but the early iron 5.4 arguably holds up better at elevated power levels than the aluminum 5.8. The 07-09 are the most underrated Shelby ever people think because they have less stock power they have less potential all that means is more room to grow with mods as they're all very close to the same thing with minor changes ove the years.
@@YDBT4LIFE Thank you for replying. Also feels for me like the best solution. 😅 But still when I see the 2008 GT500 it gives me chills.. I don't know why, never gave me that feeling before.
Alejandro what would be best call a 2011 gt500 with all aluminum engine that's about low 30k or a new 2017 gt with the performance pack for 30k to later on supercharge ?
I remember reading and I think it was 2009 that they started putting in aluminum block in as a Option I had a 2008 with the upgraded interior very cool car
Great video. I paid 30K for my 2009 with 9400 miles on it. Question. I don't want to go crazy because don't drag my car but if I did a Trinity swap(2.6 pulley) and clutch upgrade along with my longtubes what would I get with a set of mild cams? Thanks.
Oh yeah #1 Been watching BJ run this car for years, first time I've seen it from a driver's review :) My cars tuned by VMP. super happy, never had a problem.
For all out power I would agree. However it takes alot to get the GT500 to take turn like a S550. I think if you are more of a 600-700whp Road course guy, maybe the S550 and a ben calimer transmission might be a better bet. Also I cant get over the way the 07-09s look. Bleh. Also a GT500 will attract them cougars but a S550 can pull you some young strange. Ask me how I know!
Need your opinion on something should i supercharge my 2017 gt or should i trade it in for a 2019 gt that already has a roush blower installed on it. My current car is payed off. The ford dealer is asking 45,995 for the 19. Thoughts?
Lol this is such a stupid comparison. The Shelby may be heavier, but you you'd have to go to a KB blower to make the power the 5.8 Trinity makes out of the gate. The only advantage the Terminator has is the Manley true forged rods. The rest of the motor isn't in the same league.
went through this for 6 months. I went with s550 a month ago. All options with 6 speed. Will have stage 2 whipple installed at 20k. start from there. Will be my creation. Not someone else. That's what I want.
You do realize you can mod a Shelby too look at the one in the video. It doesn't take much to get to that level of modding on one. A simple 2.3 blower swap, cams fbo and injectors and pump boosters can get you some big power like 800 whp and torque with a stronger rear end and trans (comparing manual vs manual). Where it's already supercharged a blower swap is easier and cheaper than installing a full blower kit on a coyote or anything else that wasn't already supercharged. They have a more old school look feel and sound and they have way more torque by comparison even comparing a positive displacement blower coyote against a blower swapped gt500 like this one. They're alot more unique and you see way less out in the wild. I stole 108k mile 07 gt500 with tasteful mods and bolt ons in real good shape for the year and miles clean title for 16500 I could not pass that up. You would be hard pressed to get any s550 gt for that price even at over 100k miles and base model. It costs alpt less and is easier to swap the blower on a gt500 vs a blower kit for s550. I got a gen3r brand new for 3499 on black Friday. I got some dw95s and vmp pump boosters I should see 750+ on 2.6 upper only on 93 and boostane with a small twin. 65 tbody and stock headers. I should see 700+ torque also its going on next week I put a f14 drag pack on my car first thing because it would not hook on the 20 inch rovos and street tired when I bought it at the current 550 rwhp with bolt ons let alone when I gain 200 more whp and torque with the gen3r on the same supporting mods other than fueling upgraded and same pulley size. For the blower and all supporting mods plus the drag pack I still don't even have 25 into the car total. It's been taken care of and maintained properly and it continues to he maintained properly by me which is the most important thing imo. I can see why people like s550s I like them too they're sweet id love to have a gt350 next to my gt500 one day but for what I'm trying to build the car for and what I like the older gt500 makes more sense. I prefer the beefier manual and solid rear axle and I like the 5.4 4v mod motor those cars have a more old school look feel and sound vs the s550 and it's a much more raw experience. That gt500 at 750 rwhp with a tvs pushing 20 psi is gonna feel alot meaner and more violent than an s550 at similar power level. They don't Rev as high on stock motor but they have way more torque and power down low and mid range thanks to the long stroke 5.4. For a street car a tvs blown older gt500 is tough to beat but can still fly at the track too if you wanna do that. The s550 with a 6r80 or 10r80 and a turbo setup would prob potentially be a quicker setup at the drag strip if just numbers matters more.to you than feel and overall powerband and street manners. Either one can do very well the s550 is little better handling car the older gt500 is a better straight line oriented type car can be made to handle well with fairly simple mods and even in stock form they didn't do bad in their day compared to the other cars out there. They're both great but there is alot to think about other than which one makes what peak power and how easily does it get there. They can both make alot of reliable power with fairly simplistic mods. It comes down to how you want the car to look, feel and sound and how you want your power delivered etc. Do you want a stout manual stock that can take alot ofnpower with no mods needed other than better clutch and fluid change? Do you wanna do dig stuff the solid axle is good for that. Cheap and easy to mod and fix etc. It's all in what you want.
I had a 09 Shelby GT500 with just a pulley upgrade, and a mono blade TB. I now have a S550 with a VMP Gen 2R. I miss the Shelby everytime I shift the shitty as M82 trans compared to the TR6060.
bro, you know your shit very very well. thanks for not pussyfooting the borrowed GT500 and letting us mere mortals to listen to Godly camed 5.4 monster. thanks for uploading
Seems like you're pretty knowledgeable on all Ford things man that's why I subbed to your channel and you're funny as hell even though you make fun of Chevys (I have a ZL1) anyway what's your take on the Ford 6.2L I'm thinking of buying a Raptor.
The question at the end do you want luxury or do u want raw ass power my answer is i want raw ass power guess gt500 it is for me lol. Love the rawness love the sound of the older mod motors the 5.4s sound insane (5.8 too theyre all the same sound wise 5.8 just a factory bored out and modded 5.4). Im 100% manual guy so having the better tr6060 manual trans is a big plus too and i LOVE the torque of a 5.4 motor and tvs blower combined...its just bad ass. Im gonna run a 15 inch drag pack on mine from the stock even stock and bolt on cars have traction issues. The gt500s are quick if you got traction and can drive even earlier ones. Theyre no joke with a few minor mods. Its not just about which makes which peak power overall powerband and power curve is way different between the two. I like the big low down torque and flat as a board torque curve the gt500s have and theres just something special about them. Real cool cars.
4v 5.4's do sound amazing. I have an 04 Navigator with that engine, I have a CAI, high flow muffler & resonator delete, and with the tune I have itll rev to 5,800 & ooo wee does it sound great. So much different than the 2 valves
@@BrownBomber92181 i agree 100% one of my buddies back in the day used to borrow this guys navigator with that engine it was cool as hell black on black lol. It makes a cool swap for the mod motor mustangs. I had a chance to put one in my 97 cobra when the engine went south and it wouldnt have been as much money as a simple rebuild on the stock 4.6 4v but i decided to keep it 4.6 since it wad a unique car but if i could do it nowadays i woulda done the 5.4 and thrown a boss intake on top back in those days there wasnt any good intake options you had to go custom. Stock rating is what 300 and 355? Hp is similar between it and the early 4v 4.6 in my cobra but torque was way higher ecspecially down low. Bet its be nasty with ported heads, cams and a ported boss manifold that would be sick lol. Love these cars i actually just picked up an 07 gt500 for 16500 with 108k its been well maintained. Couldnt pass on it. Solid performance white with stripe delete hope to have some vids up real soon of the car and the exhaust it sounds sexy it has the exhaust i woulda picked if i could have hand picked ut (dont got longtubes YET tho lol) it has an offroad hpipe and borla stinger axle back it sounds amazing prob one of if not the best exhaust notes I've ever heard on any car and that is really sayin somethin ive heard quite a few. Long live the good ol 5.4
@@michaelharris748 Nice! I know they have been popular swaps in the new edge Mustangs instead of the coyote cuz they have more torque than the coyote but also its waaaaay cheaper than the coyote, and not vct lol. That's interesting, I've been thinking bout selling my Nav, it only has 90k miles & is in show room condition. And I really wanted a 96-98 cobra, but now I'm really thinking bout getting a 07 GT500.
@@BrownBomber92181 the gt500 is one of the best bangs for the buck. Ive seen several nice ones south of 20 grand that is alot of car for the money. Dont be afraid of a few miles if its well kept these things are tough.
The Tremec over the MT82 is worth it alone. Those early GT500s may not have all the goodies but they were reliable powerhouses. Straight, simple design.
john martin roush stage 3 isn't worth it. Basically gt with blower. No forged internals or anything unless you get the stage 3 phase 3. Still have mt82 which is nowhere as good as the tr6060
I looked at a 08 GT500 and fell in love,the only problem is that if you have to finance the bank will only go for 36 months. High payment for a 10 year old car
Go through a credit union i went through Eastman credit union on my 07 it had 108k af time of purchase I got it for 16500 last year they loaned me 100% of the amount and I went 48 months they were willing to go as far as 75 months but I didn't wanna go more than 48. Much better rates than banks too its the only way to go on older cars. My payment is 360 a month. Insurance is 71 full coverage. 07-09 gt500s FTW!!!! LOL.
I have been thinking of getting an 11-12 and have been seeing them for under 30k but they have some miles on them. I was wondering if the motors were dependable.
Traded my 2015 GT after just dumping 6k into it with some mild mods for a 2012 Shelby GT500 and have no regrets! After all ITS A FKN SHELBY. I see GT all day but don’t see hardly any shelbys on the roads !
Im about to pick up a 07-09 gt500 this spring, any tips before getting one? I switching up from a V6 so this a big upgrade for me. How does the car handle corners?
Fine Designz It doesn't handle corners at all. You will love the car though. Insane amount of torque and the blower whine will make you want to be in it everyday. It just feels "special". Word of advice though, is save at least 1500 bucks or so, quickly, to improve the traction, steering and suspension. My 08 was one of the worst handling cars I have ever owned prior to mods. Ucas, lcas, shocks, springs, panhard, bumpsteer kit.
This videos a couple years old but maybe someone will see this. Im thinking about eating ramen to buy a 2008 Gt500 I found for 21,000. Its the exact model I want, all black with red leather interior. It’s the best price I’ve ever seen in Arizona where i am and I don’t think I’ll ever see one for that price again, but the car is at 92,000 miles. Does it sound like I’m going to be sinking a shit tone of money in repairing this thing? Reliability?
Thanks a lot for the reply! You are the most knowledgeable person I know of when it comes to this kind of stuff. If it was taken good care of could it be a good daily driver? I’ll be trading my 92,000 miles 05 Gt for it. Just as reliable?
You're literally the first person I've seen who doesn't like the s550 front but likes the rear, it's always the other way around. Everyone else I've talked to loves the front and hates the rear.
he specifically mentioned the 07-10 GT500 in this video because those all came with the iron block. the 10-12 had the 5.4 aluminum and the 13-14 had the 5.8 aluminum. the iron block can certainly hold the most power stock.
it has nothing to do with the block it's the rods and pistons , I doubt they put better rods and pistons in the 07-10 than the 11-12.The coyote "block" is good for 1000hp
Alejandro Flores thanks for clearing that up. I've been on fence about selling my 13 boss for a 12 GT 500 but if power potential is the same on the stock longblock I don't see the point. I'll just throw a gen2 on the boss in the future.
My 2010 gt500 with some mods made 786 720. That torque is where its at. Love my car but i want the 2020 500. Even though it would have less power but have that auto.👍
500 at the flywheel but they can get to 550-600 on the stock blower with bolt ons they are very restricted stock. It isnt hard to get it to this level its a gen2r blower swap and cams longtubes fbo. Really not modded that much that is what is so awesome about them so easy to get big power.
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"If your going to ride my ass at least pull my hair a little bit."
This guy fucks
GT500 all the way just because it's a Shelby? Like come on now. You would get so much more attention and it would be worth more down the road! No matter how good the GT is, it's not a Shelby.
The Shelby all day .That's why I have 4 shelbys they hold there value and with a few mods you got 700wheel
@Dj d Well the first year super snake's especially the rare shelbys with the 427 package. I own a Convertible 07 super snake with the 427 package 1 of 3 car's
@Dj d The year 2012 Shelby 1000 car's and the most valuable are the 50th aniversrey super snake's.Shelby built 50 white and 50 black also the 14 signature series super snakes.
@Dj d Not just because I own one of the 44 convertible super snakes for 2007 with the 427 package. I really think that the 427 SS for 07 maybe big money in the future. I base the 07 427 package car's on history. There a tribute to a 427 cobra and everyone knows what kind of money they bring in.Speed and how fast a car is doesn't always make it more valuable than other car's. Lol a 65 gt350 is about a half a million buck's and continue to rise.So performance not all the time automatically make a mustang better than the other car's
Sticking with my '07 GT500. Great car, no issues with the aftermarket add-ons. Great adrenaline booster.
Shelby GT500 all the way. Proud owner of a 2010 Grabber Blue GT500 with white stripes here. Wouldn't trade it in for anything but another Shelby GT500. Great video and awesome 07 GT500. Go Team Shelby!
Nice man in have a 900hp 10 grabber blue shelby supersnake. Insane power everywhere.My 07 convertable 427 edition supersnake makes roughly 650 hp.Then my 08 850hp 850tq.The power in the shelbys are instant.They pull so hard and it doesn't stop like for say my 93cobra or my 87 mustang GT. They hit 55hundred RPM and there done.Not 500s and even more with my supersnakes.
I want the raw ass power, this is one of the videos that helped me decide to buy my 2008 GT500. Had it for 2 years now.
I still come back to this video from time to time. Something about these cars are special. Love that whine.
GT500 will hold it's value.
They are not holding value, high 20s will get you into that car, lose value slower then a gt?.....sure
Yeah, they are not holding their value well at all. Don't understand why though
3644Darrell because people want the 2012-2014 gt500.
Trey Gotti I guess cars are becoming disposable items. If I like something, I tend to keep it forever, even cars. I have a Toyota T100 truck that I have had since 1996. It's still a great truck even though there are better trucks out there now. It's hard to resist wanting and buying bigger and better things, but it's a race no one can win. At this point with cars, it's just an ego thing.
3644Darrell Its a mustang. That's why. Nothing special about them. If you want a car that holds its value them don't get a American car period.
Wouldn't think twice on gt500 over s550. It'll hold it's value way longer than a GT.
I remember watching this video back in the day when I sold my 2017GT to get my 2012 GT500. Still gotta thank Alex for convincing myself to get my dream car.
hey bro, what you think about cobra terminator vs. 11-17 coyote pickup bro, very curious on your thoughts???
2011 GT500 WITH 13/14 TAIL LIGHTS.
909cobra I agree with you 🐍🐍
I had a lightly modded 07 500. The car ran consistent 11.80s on drag radials and I drove it to 110,000 miles before I traded it in. I had ONE problem in 4 years, I snapped clutch cable at the track.
Love the video and love your sense of humor lol i work in a welding shop so we speak the same language. L&m did a great job with those cams. They sound great and give good power. I would honestly choose a 2010 GT500 over an S550 any day. I love all mustangs especially the coyotes and the terminator but something about the GT500 man idk. Maybe it’s the history behind it. I’m pretty excited to see what they’re going to do with the new GT500!!
I test drove a 2019 Bullitt, and I own a 2007 GT500. I did like aspects of the newer interior and the new body is growing on me. It handled really nice and was very smooth. Sounded great too. It just didn't have that raw, powerful feeling I want a muscle car to have. My Shelby was just so much simpler and way more powerful.
Really appreciate this video, had my 07 Shelby for awhile( has the vmp intake tune 2.5 on the stick blower) car did good and made 550/544. Found a deal on a 16gt I could not pass up. Been going back and forth on which to proceed modding with. Video really helped swing my vote back to the Shelby. Really looking to pick up a gen2r or even a gen 2.
I just bought an 2015 5.0 convertible for 35000 with tax car has 2k miles 20 inch wheels with pirreli pckg and 2 year left on the bumper warranty. Cheapest convertible 2011-2012 gt500 was 36k plus tax. Just sold an 2009 viper with 3.55 gears and exhaust so already had a fast car. I think comes down to personal preference. I like the looks of s550, more and quick enough for a summer daily car. And the fact that i drive a brand new car is nice too.
Ive owned so far an s550, a shelby, and a boss 302 currently. I MISS my shelby a lot. I had the blower ported and a different pully and that fucker was fast and probably my favorite car ive ever owned. The s550 though, dont get me wrong the interior is great and all but if you are looking to get attention in an s550 unless it has a lot of work done to it youll just be another mustang driver as seen by others on the road
I had the same Debate 2 years ago when I bought my S550😊
i mean you can also get a 11-12gt500 for low to mid 30s
mapko15 low 30s?? must be down south. all the ones that arent beat to sh*t are still pulling mid to high 30s in the Midwest
mapko15 u beat me to it. last week omw home i found a 2011 gt500 black, gps, shaker500, sync, and svt package with 30something thousand miles for $32,900 here in oklahoma. if i were under different circumstances, i would have for sure part ways with my 13 5.O. i checked for it a couple days ago to show a buddy of mine and it was sold.
mike b thats exactly what i got my 1 owner '12 for with 4600 miles. A lot of car for the money!
Going to LA this weekend picking up a 07 gt500 all stock .. from an elderly man who only put 5 thousand miles on it bought it new .. all paper work and certification for wait for it . 16,800 cash 💵.. he’s 80 and has kept up with the maintenance.. I think I lucked out .
@@eddie123214 yea you got it for half what its worth assuming youre not lying so lucked out is an understatement lol
Love this video, questions like these is exactly what I think about and want to know. Explain what you can do and for about how much, then make a decision that best fits you. Subscribed and have been watching/enjoying the videos, honestly don't understand some of the parts/upgrades you refer to , but I'm learning and getting familiar from them, a lot actually. Keep them up, I think they are great
you my man are a genius ,keep the videos coming!
Spot on Alex, I have had an 07 GT500 and currently have a S550...I miss the torque but I love my S550...wish I could afford to have both!!
God bless the S197
I see my car lol. At 8:07 Silver s550 in the background. I have all the unmentionables
Great info and knowledge in your videos!
I own a 2016 Mustang GT convertible with PP and a 2007 GT500 convertible. I will take the GT500 all day long over the S550. The GT500 is a better platform to modify IMO. The TR6060 is a far better transmission compared to the MT82. The s550 is probably a better daily driver because of the technology advancements in the last 10 years i.e. SYNC 3, blind spot monitoring and adaptive CC. Again I would choose the GT500 over the S550.
Great video by the way!
You could be a amazing salesman fml 🤦♂️🤦♂️I wanna get a gt500 now Ihy lol I'm convinced haha
Alen Pepic I already was... I hated it
Keep up the daily videos!!!
I like both but I would go with the gt 500 just because it's already supercharged
Making me consider buying a stang. The numbers don't lie. I'm a chevy guy and built my caprice to be able to play with today's stangs Camaros and chargers etc. I have accomplished my goal it wasn't cheap. But cat is a great sleeper. But the gt500 would be a great car to keep and maintain value as investment.
I can personally say that I own both. I love my GT500 it's is equipped with a ton of VMP gear ... and I also own a 2017 GT convertible with an automatic... I love both cars.
But if you're saying bang for buck it's definitely the GT500 all day long. Because to get the same comfort in a GT Mustang you're going to have to go with the premium package. The GT500 come standard with leather seats.. mustang GT does not.. and the list goes on and on. If you're going to buy used definitely get a GT500...👍🏻😳😳👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻😎😎😎
turbosaleen347 Leather seats? You do know leather wears out WAY faster then cloth, and leather blows in the hot and freezing cold weather conditions, sticky sweaty people's legs and shit, leather just fucking sucks in general and the fact your comparing the quality of the seats lmao gtfoh
Kernal29 that's your opinion and you are entitled to it... but to be so nasty as to tell me to GTFOH.. wow look out everybody we got a key for Rambo over here.... I will never own a vehicle with cheap ass nasty fucking cloth interior... and that is how I feel.. and I'm sure manufacturers around the world feel the same way because all of their top tier vehicles come with leather.. not nasty ass fucking cloth ... but anyway have a nice day or don't 😂😂😂🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
turbosaleen347 Nasty ass fucking cloth? Go look up the vehicle I'm driving right now 2017 Ford Mustang Blacked Out w/ Cloth seats and carbon fibre dash and side panels. If anything is nasty it's leather after 1 year of having leather it wears out gets crinkled it doesn't last long and gross sweaty greasy sticky people plus yourself sitting in your vehicle ew.
Kernal29 you make me laugh 😂.. so I guess your cloth seats don't absorb sweat 💦.. I know my seats are nice and cooled so I don't sweat in them .. plus my seats are 5 years old and still smell and look brand new .. 😜😜😜😜😜😜😜
turbosaleen347 Well for one you don't sweat in them as badly and for two your lying cause i bet if we inspected them they'd smell like piss and shit and be worn out to shit but yeah if that's what your about cool brotha.
Hey how do you feel about 03-04 cobras?
curious as well
slowasscobra I think it's because he's most familiar with gt500s and coyote cars. oldest he usually talks about are 05 3v's
@@liljew4567 because he's not a fan of that particular car he's stated that many times
Alejandro, first time I have watch your video and I want to congratulated you for the great content and knowledge, Carajo al fin un Latino doing cars stuff in youtube.
ya era hora!!! coñooooooooooooooooooooo
Very proud of you.... Mi hermano, saludos desde Atlantic City NJ.
Yeah but how much did it cost for all those add on because the car maybe supercharged but it's not that much faster. Now I can tell the car your driving is fast and it looks great! I chose a 2017 gt and I'm really enjoying it. Plus once Ive supercharged it I take a s550 all day. Hell one inch lowering springs with IRS...
That gt500 looks perfect
Good vid again. My dream car is the 13-14 662hp gt500. But I'm stuck with an s550 for now so maybe a whipple instead.
1234zcrom s550 with a supercharger would climb to about 720hp
What about a 12-13 Boss 302 vs. S550 bolt-ons vs. bolt-ons? Some folks can't afford blowers, so that also needs to be considered..
Clean93GT The Boss is a much better choice than either the 550 or the Shelby. If I had not have wanted a convertible, I would have bought a Boss. The Shelby's are too heavy and drive like a boat. The 550's come with a shitty transmission and clutch and it has electronic steering which takes away from road feel.
@@3644Darrell boss has electronic steering too so does gt500s and regular 5.0s from 2011 onward. The older iron block gt500 was just over 3900 lbs which isnt much more than a loaded s550 which is prob above 3800 and the 11-14, aluminum block gt500s are just 3800 lbs also. A head unit upgrade for a gt500 is alot less money than a blower for a 5.0 that is one advantage to it already being supercharged plus you have tons of torque everywhere down low even on the stock blower compared to an s550. I love the boss but it has the same "shitty trans" s550 has the mt82. Gt500s also sound better than coyotes and they chop with cams the old fashioned way no need for a cam tune. They have a more old school muscular sound than the coyote deeper and meaner like the old 5.0s and the old 4.6s too they all got the same firing order the coyotes is different that is why it has a more high pitch euro sound it sounds good too but I prefer the old 4v 5.4 in the gt500. Has a much more old school raw muscular feel compared to an s550 and it isnt just the older chassis and solid axle the long stroke 5.4 just by nature makes alot more low end torque than a coyote even without a blower add in a positive displacement blower on top and they are torque monsters and very fun on the street even with a stock blower. You can make them handle pretty damn well if that is what you wanna do with the car. It depends how you wanna set it up they don't do that bad even stockish lowered on some nice rubber. There is alot to like about the old gt500s. Depends on what you want. If sync 3 and big screens fancy stereos and other creature comforts matter more to you get an s550. Depends on what you want.
@@midnight347 yeah, I forgot the Boss has the MT-82. For the life of me, I don't know what they were thinking when they decided to go with that transmission.
I track my car and do autocross so a supercharger is out; they get too hot. The GT500's make a great drag car though. I haven't driven a newer GT500, I have just driven an 07 and I didn't like it. It was the first time I had driven a Shelby and I guess I expected fireworks and pure joy, but I wasn't impressed. My 07 GT is a lot lighter and more nimble, but I have over 10 grand in my suspension so mine rides and handles completely different than other Mustangs. If I just had another 100 horsepower, I would be thrilled.
I don't like all the fancy new stuff on cars. I grew up driving a 66 GT with a built and balanced engine with around 350 hp in a 2,750 lb. car so I like a car without any luxuries except for air conditioning, power windows and door locks. The 05-09 are as close as I can get to a 65-68 in a modern car. I would like to drive a Boss on a track just to see how it feels, but with a different transmission. I got to drive a 2014
GT MT-82 in a place where I could drive fast to test it out and I hated the trans. even more after I experienced it. It also didn't handle worth a crap.
So what about a boss 302 or a 07 08 gt500
Won’t to buy S550 or gt 500 help full video typed in gt 500 vs S550 you video popped right up thanks
What about 07-12 GT500 vs. 11-14 Coyote? Won't the coyote always make more power on the same blower (and be lighter)? Also the older cars can't support flex fuel.
AKDMB Coyote's don't seem to produce the torque the 5.4's did, at all.
Neither is designed to take flex fuel but the GT500 will support it better than the coyote mustangs due to the twin pumps and drivers. As far a power vs torque go's, the 5.4 mod motor is just a low compression, tall deck, long stroke 4.6 and the 5.0 is a high compression big bore 4.6. The long stroke is why the GT500 makes more torque than the 5.0. And the 11-14 GT500 motors are all aluminum so when you put a positive displacement blower on a coyote you'll be at about the same weight as well.
V8Flexin I forgot the 2011-2014 cars have widebands, and can do flex fuel.
AKDMB Always make more power? No. The Coyote's advantage is that it is an 11:1 engine from the factory with 210-212 degree duration cams with .~.470" lift from the factory. (versus 07-12 GT500 @ 8.4:1 and 184 degree .390" lift)
Give both engines 11:1 and well match aftermarket cams and the GT500's 5.4 makes more power everytime. The GT500 heads outflow Coyote heads stock and ported (especially on exhaust side) and the extra displacement also comes into play.
Built to built (properly), Condor/Trinity > Coyote. More cubes and better heads easily outperforms VCT.
LSandViper Killer Lot's of good info right there, I always thought the coyote head outflowed tbe gt500.
What should I buy. 08 gt500 or 03-04 cobra. Both with only be with bolt ons
I know blast from the past but curious if in 2023 you still think this? Considering an older gt500 as a cool weekend car. I’ve already had a gen1 and gen 2 coyote. The 05-09 body style is one of my favorites. Just curious on your thoughts
I still really like 07-09's you can make good power cheap
@@YDBT4LIFEHEY ALEX FORGIVE ME FOR ASKING AGAIN I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT YOU SAID LOL BUT MY QUESTION IS HOW MUCH POWER CAN MY 08 GT500 MAKE AT THE TIRE LOL MAX POWER IN YOUR OPINION FROM TUNING THEM.
@@anthonylaudano9435 just a tune? Or max effort (vmp gen2r, e85x 10%lower mono blade, pmas 149?)
You need to be super specific
@@YDBT4LIFE MAX POWER ON STOCK INTERNALS ON THE 5.4 IN MY 07 SUPER SNAKE.
07-09...the typical simple mods. If you want it to handle, throw some Steeda stuff on it. Doesn't mattter for highway pulls, road trips or Taco Bell at 2am
You should do this type of comparison between all the recent GT500s, would be interesting
GODEYE270115 He did a while back. GT500 buyers guide. Did not show as much love for the 07-10s in that video lol
@@everarmed_89 the only thing worse about 07-09 if you wanna call it that is the stock clutch, has a heavier iron block but it's also stout and easily replaced for cheap if something happens compared to the super expensive aluminum blocks. They do not have widenand 02 for afr but that can be added for few hundred bucks and they don't have knock sensors but that can be a good thing alot of guys have trouble with false knock causing issues especially on the earlier cars 10-12 the first ones to have the knock sensors. Long as you go with a reputable tuner who's familiar with these and tuned them since the beginning you'll be fine. They can make good power as good as the later ones do and they're little more raw and some prefer the look some like 10 up I like an 07-09 with 10 up treatment (centered letters on trunk, body colored mirror covers, 13-14 style taillights with some tint on the front lights etc) these things can do alot for updating the look of the earlier cars. I have an 07 that is like this currently just bolt ons with 550 rwhp and f14 drag pack. I'm bout to throw a gen3r on it with bigger injectors and pump boosters and make 750+ on 93/boostane with a 2.6 upper only with a small twin 65 tbody and stock headers.
The 07-09 make same power as 10-12 once running an intake and tune on both the earlier cars just pick up more power with those mods compared to 10-12 because those had better intake and tune stock so less room for gains in aftermarket. Once they're running the same blower 07-14 all make pretty comparable power with the same supporting mods etc. The blower is 95% of the power difference on 13-14 cars and its super easy to get an 07-12 to bolt on 13-14 numbers by swapping the same or better blower.on the 5.4. They all have 800 rwhp ceiling on stock driveline but the early iron 5.4 arguably holds up better at elevated power levels than the aluminum 5.8. The 07-09 are the most underrated Shelby ever people think because they have less stock power they have less potential all that means is more room to grow with mods as they're all very close to the same thing with minor changes ove the years.
I am struggling with decision over GT500, 2013 GT or GT 2019... All manual cars, and gonna be used for daily.
19 gt
@@YDBT4LIFE Thank you for replying. Also feels for me like the best solution. 😅 But still when I see the 2008 GT500 it gives me chills.. I don't know why, never gave me that feeling before.
And is VMP going to come out with Straight cut gears so we can hear the blower more.
What do you think about the older Super Snakes
Alejandro what would be best call a 2011 gt500 with all aluminum engine that's about low 30k or a new 2017 gt with the performance pack for 30k to later on supercharge ?
Harold G gt500 hands down
Alejandro Flores Thanks!
I remember reading and I think it was 2009 that they started putting in aluminum block in as a Option I had a 2008 with the upgraded interior very cool car
what about the Trinity 5.8L in the 13'14?? why bother with anything else????
Great video. I paid 30K for my 2009 with 9400 miles on it. Question. I don't want to go crazy because don't drag my car but if I did a Trinity swap(2.6 pulley) and clutch upgrade along with my longtubes what would I get with a set of mild cams? Thanks.
Does the VMP blower gen 3 going to make more torque than KB 3.2 OR Whipple 2.9
Oh yeah #1 Been watching BJ run this car for years, first time I've seen it from a driver's review :)
My cars tuned by VMP. super happy, never had a problem.
lmfao smh
god damn it!!! ima beat you one day man
Cant decide if to get a 12 mustang gtcs or a 13 f150 rcsb 5.0
For all out power I would agree. However it takes alot to get the GT500 to take turn like a S550. I think if you are more of a 600-700whp Road course guy, maybe the S550 and a ben calimer transmission might be a better bet. Also I cant get over the way the 07-09s look. Bleh. Also a GT500 will attract them cougars but a S550 can pull you some young strange. Ask me how I know!
That's a bad ass car. What kind of numbers is he running at the track?
Which rear ended would you use
Need your opinion on something should i supercharge my 2017 gt or should i trade it in for a 2019 gt that already has a roush blower installed on it. My current car is payed off. The ford dealer is asking 45,995 for the 19. Thoughts?
Supercharge the 17
Whats your opinion on built 5.0 F150's?
Could you do a vid on any knowledge you have about the infamous 5.0 bbq tick?
How about a 03 Cobra or a 13 GT500 pick one
Kind of stupid comparison
The 13 gt500s for sure
Lol this is such a stupid comparison. The Shelby may be heavier, but you you'd have to go to a KB blower to make the power the 5.8 Trinity makes out of the gate. The only advantage the Terminator has is the Manley true forged rods. The rest of the motor isn't in the same league.
off subject. but can you review the barton hybrid 3 vs the mgw race spec? thx
What about 11-12 gt500
went through this for 6 months. I went with s550 a month ago. All options with 6 speed. Will have stage 2 whipple installed at 20k. start from there. Will be my creation. Not someone else.
That's what I want.
You do realize you can mod a Shelby too look at the one in the video. It doesn't take much to get to that level of modding on one. A simple 2.3 blower swap, cams fbo and injectors and pump boosters can get you some big power like 800 whp and torque with a stronger rear end and trans (comparing manual vs manual). Where it's already supercharged a blower swap is easier and cheaper than installing a full blower kit on a coyote or anything else that wasn't already supercharged. They have a more old school look feel and sound and they have way more torque by comparison even comparing a positive displacement blower coyote against a blower swapped gt500 like this one. They're alot more unique and you see way less out in the wild. I stole 108k mile 07 gt500 with tasteful mods and bolt ons in real good shape for the year and miles clean title for 16500 I could not pass that up. You would be hard pressed to get any s550 gt for that price even at over 100k miles and base model. It costs alpt less and is easier to swap the blower on a gt500 vs a blower kit for s550. I got a gen3r brand new for 3499 on black Friday. I got some dw95s and vmp pump boosters I should see 750+ on 2.6 upper only on 93 and boostane with a small twin. 65 tbody and stock headers. I should see 700+ torque also its going on next week I put a f14 drag pack on my car first thing because it would not hook on the 20 inch rovos and street tired when I bought it at the current 550 rwhp with bolt ons let alone when I gain 200 more whp and torque with the gen3r on the same supporting mods other than fueling upgraded and same pulley size. For the blower and all supporting mods plus the drag pack I still don't even have 25 into the car total. It's been taken care of and maintained properly and it continues to he maintained properly by me which is the most important thing imo.
I can see why people like s550s I like them too they're sweet id love to have a gt350 next to my gt500 one day but for what I'm trying to build the car for and what I like the older gt500 makes more sense. I prefer the beefier manual and solid rear axle and I like the 5.4 4v mod motor those cars have a more old school look feel and sound vs the s550 and it's a much more raw experience. That gt500 at 750 rwhp with a tvs pushing 20 psi is gonna feel alot meaner and more violent than an s550 at similar power level. They don't Rev as high on stock motor but they have way more torque and power down low and mid range thanks to the long stroke 5.4. For a street car a tvs blown older gt500 is tough to beat but can still fly at the track too if you wanna do that. The s550 with a 6r80 or 10r80 and a turbo setup would prob potentially be a quicker setup at the drag strip if just numbers matters more.to you than feel and overall powerband and street manners. Either one can do very well the s550 is little better handling car the older gt500 is a better straight line oriented type car can be made to handle well with fairly simple mods and even in stock form they didn't do bad in their day compared to the other cars out there.
They're both great but there is alot to think about other than which one makes what peak power and how easily does it get there. They can both make alot of reliable power with fairly simplistic mods. It comes down to how you want the car to look, feel and sound and how you want your power delivered etc. Do you want a stout manual stock that can take alot ofnpower with no mods needed other than better clutch and fluid change? Do you wanna do dig stuff the solid axle is good for that. Cheap and easy to mod and fix etc. It's all in what you want.
I had a 09 Shelby GT500 with just a pulley upgrade, and a mono blade TB. I now have a S550 with a VMP Gen 2R. I miss the Shelby everytime I shift the shitty as M82 trans compared to the TR6060.
bro, you know your shit very very well. thanks for not pussyfooting the borrowed GT500 and letting us mere mortals to listen to Godly camed 5.4 monster. thanks for uploading
So Alejandro I can get a 2012 gt500 w/1100 miles for 34k can you shoot me a detailed cost list of no shit cost to hit 700-750whp
Seems like you're pretty knowledgeable on all Ford things man that's why I subbed to your channel and you're funny as hell even though you make fun of Chevys (I have a ZL1) anyway what's your take on the Ford 6.2L I'm thinking of buying a Raptor.
The question at the end do you want luxury or do u want raw ass power my answer is i want raw ass power guess gt500 it is for me lol. Love the rawness love the sound of the older mod motors the 5.4s sound insane (5.8 too theyre all the same sound wise 5.8 just a factory bored out and modded 5.4). Im 100% manual guy so having the better tr6060 manual trans is a big plus too and i LOVE the torque of a 5.4 motor and tvs blower combined...its just bad ass. Im gonna run a 15 inch drag pack on mine from the stock even stock and bolt on cars have traction issues. The gt500s are quick if you got traction and can drive even earlier ones. Theyre no joke with a few minor mods. Its not just about which makes which peak power overall powerband and power curve is way different between the two. I like the big low down torque and flat as a board torque curve the gt500s have and theres just something special about them. Real cool cars.
4v 5.4's do sound amazing. I have an 04 Navigator with that engine, I have a CAI, high flow muffler & resonator delete, and with the tune I have itll rev to 5,800 & ooo wee does it sound great. So much different than the 2 valves
@@BrownBomber92181 i agree 100% one of my buddies back in the day used to borrow this guys navigator with that engine it was cool as hell black on black lol. It makes a cool swap for the mod motor mustangs. I had a chance to put one in my 97 cobra when the engine went south and it wouldnt have been as much money as a simple rebuild on the stock 4.6 4v but i decided to keep it 4.6 since it wad a unique car but if i could do it nowadays i woulda done the 5.4 and thrown a boss intake on top back in those days there wasnt any good intake options you had to go custom. Stock rating is what 300 and 355? Hp is similar between it and the early 4v 4.6 in my cobra but torque was way higher ecspecially down low. Bet its be nasty with ported heads, cams and a ported boss manifold that would be sick lol. Love these cars i actually just picked up an 07 gt500 for 16500 with 108k its been well maintained. Couldnt pass on it. Solid performance white with stripe delete hope to have some vids up real soon of the car and the exhaust it sounds sexy it has the exhaust i woulda picked if i could have hand picked ut (dont got longtubes YET tho lol) it has an offroad hpipe and borla stinger axle back it sounds amazing prob one of if not the best exhaust notes I've ever heard on any car and that is really sayin somethin ive heard quite a few. Long live the good ol 5.4
@@michaelharris748 Nice! I know they have been popular swaps in the new edge Mustangs instead of the coyote cuz they have more torque than the coyote but also its waaaaay cheaper than the coyote, and not vct lol. That's interesting, I've been thinking bout selling my Nav, it only has 90k miles & is in show room condition. And I really wanted a 96-98 cobra, but now I'm really thinking bout getting a 07 GT500.
@@BrownBomber92181 the gt500 is one of the best bangs for the buck. Ive seen several nice ones south of 20 grand that is alot of car for the money. Dont be afraid of a few miles if its well kept these things are tough.
i have that same setup with a baby gen1 .... but what boost levels was he at with the 15% under drive
All of it.
The Tremec over the MT82 is worth it alone. Those early GT500s may not have all the goodies but they were reliable powerhouses. Straight, simple design.
Hey brother can you provide L&M part number for those cams
I'll keep my ass coolers and go fast, 15 Premium Auto 2K miles, paid $28K.
Alex, talk about turbos
I would rather have a 5.0 honestly
I need to see a Gt500 vs gt350r vs Rousch stage3 vs saleen which is or was the best
john martin roush stage 3 isn't worth it. Basically gt with blower. No forged internals or anything unless you get the stage 3 phase 3. Still have mt82 which is nowhere as good as the tr6060
I would like to know your thoughts between the s5550 and 2013-2014 gt500?
rubblemadden watch more videos... he gave his opinion before. he said it was maxed out from the factory.
Ok I will try and find that video thanks.
I looked at a 08 GT500 and fell in love,the only problem is that if you have to finance the bank will only go for 36 months. High payment for a 10 year old car
Go through a credit union i went through Eastman credit union on my 07 it had 108k af time of purchase I got it for 16500 last year they loaned me 100% of the amount and I went 48 months they were willing to go as far as 75 months but I didn't wanna go more than 48. Much better rates than banks too its the only way to go on older cars. My payment is 360 a month. Insurance is 71 full coverage. 07-09 gt500s FTW!!!! LOL.
I have been thinking of getting an 11-12 and have been seeing them for under 30k but they have some miles on them. I was wondering if the motors were dependable.
brucehawk09 bulletproof
Traded my 2015 GT after just dumping 6k into it with some mild mods for a 2012 Shelby GT500 and have no regrets! After all ITS A FKN SHELBY. I see GT all day but don’t see hardly any shelbys on the roads !
what about s197 2011+ vs 07-09 gt500
How many miles too many miles on a 5.0?
Nothing beats TORQUE..Nothing!
Is that the GT500 that Ford sold VMP for $1?
Mean machine..what exhaust? Nice ride BJ. I'm running vmp on my 03 cobra. Also fortunate enough to have a 2014 shelby gt500.
I love my 08gt500 I wouldn't trade it for anything
Im about to pick up a 07-09 gt500 this spring, any tips before getting one? I switching up from a V6 so this a big upgrade for me. How does the car handle corners?
Fine Designz It doesn't handle corners at all. You will love the car though. Insane amount of torque and the blower whine will make you want to be in it everyday. It just feels "special". Word of advice though, is save at least 1500 bucks or so, quickly, to improve the traction, steering and suspension. My 08 was one of the worst handling cars I have ever owned prior to mods. Ucas, lcas, shocks, springs, panhard, bumpsteer kit.
This videos a couple years old but maybe someone will see this. Im thinking about eating ramen to buy a 2008 Gt500 I found for 21,000. Its the exact model I want, all black with red leather interior. It’s the best price I’ve ever seen in Arizona where i am and I don’t think I’ll ever see one for that price again, but the car is at 92,000 miles. Does it sound like I’m going to be sinking a shit tone of money in repairing this thing? Reliability?
100k on a modular that makes a lot of torque? I'd keep the mods to a minimum
Thanks a lot for the reply! You are the most knowledgeable person I know of when it comes to this kind of stuff. If it was taken good care of could it be a good daily driver? I’ll be trading my 92,000 miles 05 Gt for it. Just as reliable?
I don’t plan on doing much to the power besides a good tune, maybe from Lund racing ;) All other mods will be restoration and suspension
I’m considering...... GT500 for the win!
ill go with the gt500 I don't like the fusion front on the s550..rear looks super nice but front no so much
You're literally the first person I've seen who doesn't like the s550 front but likes the rear, it's always the other way around. Everyone else I've talked to loves the front and hates the rear.
i love the rear, front is ok...too much ford design dna, not enough mustang in the front imo...overall my favorite stang since the late 60's
People get the fuck outta my way in the fast lane. I like the front.
gt500s are all over 40k in my area
Pistol Pete the 2011 and 2012 are running 40,000 in California. Great year also.
That is something I will say is my 08 gt500 and both of my super snake's. Makes amazing TQ.
is that motor built ? I've been told 700-750 is max effort on a 12 gt500 stock longblock
he specifically mentioned the 07-10 GT500 in this video because those all came with the iron block. the 10-12 had the 5.4 aluminum and the 13-14 had the 5.8 aluminum. the iron block can certainly hold the most power stock.
stock block. His previous stock internals engine made 850 wheel This one makes 900+ RWHP with cams and forged internals.
it has nothing to do with the block it's the rods and pistons , I doubt they put better rods and pistons in the 07-10 than the 11-12.The coyote "block" is good for 1000hp
Alejandro Flores thanks for clearing that up. I've been on fence about selling my 13 boss for a 12 GT 500 but if power potential is the same on the stock longblock I don't see the point. I'll just throw a gen2 on the boss in the future.
I made 1000 wheel on my 2010 GT500, longblock all factory aside from ARP headstuds and Melling billet pump. That was on race gas and twin turbos.
My 2010 gt500 with some mods made 786 720. That torque is where its at. Love my car but i want the 2020 500. Even though it would have less power but have that auto.👍
like the video, but you really needed to drive a stock gt500 not some 900hp monster. whats a stock gt500 in 07-10 make hp wise? 550?
HotShotVQ35 450_480
Stock 07-10 makes about 445rwhp (500hp flywheel), 11-12 makes about 500rwhp (550hp flywheel), and 13-14 around 600rwhp (662hp flywheel).
500 at the flywheel but they can get to 550-600 on the stock blower with bolt ons they are very restricted stock. It isnt hard to get it to this level its a gen2r blower swap and cams longtubes fbo. Really not modded that much that is what is so awesome about them so easy to get big power.
does the 07-10 gt500 have the same internals as the 11-12 gt500?
block is aluminum in 2011 and up. but i believe the bore and stroke the same
It reminds me of the crazy TQ in my supersnake over 700lbs of TQ dead stock.
Raw power! All day long .
Great video. Now I want to trade my GT500 for a new s550
JD JoyrideTV no. JD! Don't lol
You're also full of shit lol
JD JoyrideTV bullshit thats some super razzle said no mustang owner😂😂
Jd your build is insane dont do it.
What about when comparing at 11-12 gt500 to the s550?
In my opinion it's not close. I'd rock a 11-12 GT500 in a hearbeat.
BUUUUT an auto TVS with a 69mm and a 5% on E85 is sex!
Alejandro Flores love the 11-12 gt 500 your other gt 500 video has some good info keep it coming!!!
jeff owen gilbert was in the market and was comparing both last year. Went '12 gt500, now VMP powered and tuned havent looked back!