I am happy to see B tier Chinese manufacturers producing serious competition for the Europe market finally! Impressive commuter solution. Belt drive Bafang is top notch, Tektro is fine and battery is easily replaceable. Rack looks good as well. This 3 speed "automatic" gearing seems like a NO GO for trekking- but i guess you have to cut corners somewhere to get to this price point. Hopefully there will be more competition in the belt drive solutions. Very exciting stuff!!!!
It's good to see them really step up with this P275 Pro and the ST model if people want step-thru and gears. The 3 speed hub is different I would prefer manual control of the 3 gears but it's certainly better than the single speed and belt every other brand seems to use. Both climbing and top speed is better with those 3 gears.
Yes, but the BIG problem for many is the lack of support & warranty, which explains why they were cheaper. Doesn't make any sense to introduce more expensive models TILL they get those issues sorted.
Oh I seems I accidently left that one. But it brakes really well before the other pillar in my test so above average brakes and yes it did set the dogs off!
@@N0N0111 Sorry abouit that it wasn't intentionally left out I messed up the edit. But I can confirm that it breaks better than more as as expected for Tektro brand of brakes it's very good.
@@MrManningata Hi. Ebikes don't have regenerative braking. It's technically possible to have it, like on electric forklift trucks, but with the relatively light weight of an Ebike it would introduce too much drag on the motor for unassisted pedalling, and your legs wouldn't appreciate it 🙂
Did you try it on unpaved roads? Curious how it feels when there's no suspension. I don't mean off-road or forest paths, but countryside roads I like to take.
Can't decide between this Engwe P275 Pro or Fiido C21. I'm tall (195cm) and want a daily commuter (7km round trip) for flat and MAYBE the occasional weekend longer trip (mainly flat with the odd hill). Both of your reviews made me want them! I like the rocket mode of C21 (for when I can sneakily use it) but the battery seems a bit on the small side and scared it will be useless in a year or 2. Decent samsung battery, plus belt on Engwe very tempting. Which would you recommend for me? Or anyone else who has actually bought one? Thanks to Chris for all the great reviews!!
Mid drive makes so much more sense with a wide range derailleur gear set. Belts are fine, but i can live with oiling and cleaning a chain if it means i can climb very steep hills easier.
Both are good it depends on your budget if you wan the self locking and GPS the Lemmo has it. But this bike for around 500 euros less covers all bases and yes that seat post is really great to have.
@@Techtablets Many prefer mid-drive, but can you comment from your experience on the drives systems? Since you are riding them all. I thought a rear drive retains more of that original bicycle feeling.
It's really the only thing I don't like about it being like a CVT hub gearbox. Would be nice to hold it in first gear or any gear. Manual control is always good to have.
The more expensive the models of these non mainstream brands become, the less plausible they are because of the lack of support & warranty, one would get from the known brands at their local bike shop. Best to stick with the budget end below E1000/$1000/£1000 I'd have thought.
Very true that's what made them attractive the lower pricing but then they didn't have the know brand components which in the end also hurts them. I think if it was priced a little lower they should hit that sweet spot of price and then quality. I'm sure many would pay a little more for Samsung cell batteries than non branded ones. So goes for the motor etc. As for support I've not had to test them out yet, but you get the standard 12 months for frame and then it varies for the parts.
@@Techtablets Warranty means nothing though, if there's no support within a reasonable distance from the customer. They simply don't have the service network to fix these things, instead they rely on customers fitting the parts themselves, as most local bike shops won't touch them...not good.
Bike shops here will, expect the motors or controllers of these "other" brand ebikes. But typical stuff like gears and brakes etc they do. But less a local warranty support and service center is a must.
I am happy to see B tier Chinese manufacturers producing serious competition for the Europe market finally! Impressive commuter solution. Belt drive Bafang is top notch, Tektro is fine and battery is easily replaceable. Rack looks good as well. This 3 speed "automatic" gearing seems like a NO GO for trekking- but i guess you have to cut corners somewhere to get to this price point. Hopefully there will be more competition in the belt drive solutions. Very exciting stuff!!!!
It's good to see them really step up with this P275 Pro and the ST model if people want step-thru and gears. The 3 speed hub is different I would prefer manual control of the 3 gears but it's certainly better than the single speed and belt every other brand seems to use. Both climbing and top speed is better with those 3 gears.
Yes, but the BIG problem for many is the lack of support & warranty, which explains why they were cheaper. Doesn't make any sense to introduce more expensive models TILL they get those issues sorted.
For sure focus on great support first that matches the price.
Nice looking bike. I love the belt drive and hub gear combination, and am amazed that it isn't more common.
Yes we need more of them and I think we are going to see more models with year with the 3 speed rear hub.
@@Techtablets My wife bought a Gazelle bike with the Enviolo hub yesterday. I'm looking forward to seeing how she gets on with it.
@@lafamillecarrington
Hi.
How are the Enviolo hub gears performing?
Thank you 🙂
Where is the brake test mate? I wanted to see if you triggered the dogs again 🤣
Oh I seems I accidently left that one. But it brakes really well before the other pillar in my test so above average brakes and yes it did set the dogs off!
Same, I went back in the video to find brake test and I could not find it.
@@N0N0111 Sorry abouit that it wasn't intentionally left out I messed up the edit. But I can confirm that it breaks better than more as as expected for Tektro brand of brakes it's very good.
Does it have regenerative braking?
@@MrManningata Hi.
Ebikes don't have regenerative braking.
It's technically possible to have it, like on electric forklift trucks, but with the relatively light weight of an Ebike it would introduce too much drag on the motor for unassisted pedalling, and your legs wouldn't appreciate it 🙂
Hi, great review. Thanks 🙂
If you turned off the motor and cycled along on a flat road, would you feel much resistance from the motor?
Cheers 👍
Yes you do feel a bit of resistance it’s not free wheeling or completely disengaged. It’s not bad however not the worse I’ve tested.
Did you try it on unpaved roads? Curious how it feels when there's no suspension. I don't mean off-road or forest paths, but countryside roads I like to take.
I did yes, some paving that is all up and down and it was a bumpy ride as expected without the shocks.
Can't decide between this Engwe P275 Pro or Fiido C21. I'm tall (195cm) and want a daily commuter (7km round trip) for flat and MAYBE the occasional weekend longer trip (mainly flat with the odd hill). Both of your reviews made me want them! I like the rocket mode of C21 (for when I can sneakily use it) but the battery seems a bit on the small side and scared it will be useless in a year or 2. Decent samsung battery, plus belt on Engwe very tempting. Which would you recommend for me? Or anyone else who has actually bought one? Thanks to Chris for all the great reviews!!
Mid drive makes so much more sense with a wide range derailleur gear set. Belts are fine, but i can live with oiling and cleaning a chain if it means i can climb very steep hills easier.
Good thing they have the P275 non pro model that has the gears and chain. This is with the belt is better for flat areas.
Great teview thank you.
The P275 Pro looks like a wimner 👍
You're welcome, it's defiantly their best ebike to date!
Also not bad at all, and then: Belt Drive! But a different and heavier beast to the Lemmo.
The air seat post is cool, useful. Both good bike I reckon.
Both are good it depends on your budget if you wan the self locking and GPS the Lemmo has it. But this bike for around 500 euros less covers all bases and yes that seat post is really great to have.
@@Techtablets Many prefer mid-drive, but can you comment from your experience on the drives systems? Since you are riding them all.
I thought a rear drive retains more of that original bicycle feeling.
Looks good mate I liek that idea of the 3 speeds with the belt drive. Shame it has no GPS right? Is there an application for it?
No GPS with it and I think no app either it doesn't really need it.
Can buy for 50bucks
Ebike with CVT gearbox.. Amazing
It was about time we got it to help with the single speed speed issue with belt drive only ebikes.
Thank you for posting.
You're welcome! Thanks for watching.
Nice new ebike brand, Engry
Yes sounds like Angry
Why should a bike with ergonomics for a short distance have a battery for long distance?!
How noisy it is? I see ebikes everywhere now and boy they're loud
What are your top 3 picks?
Right now this still style of city ebike it's the the Lemmo One mk2, thi P275 Pro and then the Eskute Polluno Pro for those that want to spend less.
can you adjust handle bar for tall rider?
Just a little but only lower it more. How I have it is the highest it will go.
@@Techtablets Thank you for quick anwer
e26 better for taller people
Agreed... Real shame you can't override the auto box
It's really the only thing I don't like about it being like a CVT hub gearbox. Would be nice to hold it in first gear or any gear. Manual control is always good to have.
The more expensive the models of these non mainstream brands become, the less plausible they are because of the lack of support & warranty, one would get from the known brands at their local bike shop. Best to stick with the budget end below E1000/$1000/£1000 I'd have thought.
Very true that's what made them attractive the lower pricing but then they didn't have the know brand components which in the end also hurts them. I think if it was priced a little lower they should hit that sweet spot of price and then quality. I'm sure many would pay a little more for Samsung cell batteries than non branded ones. So goes for the motor etc. As for support I've not had to test them out yet, but you get the standard 12 months for frame and then it varies for the parts.
@@Techtablets Warranty means nothing though, if there's no support within a reasonable distance from the customer. They simply don't have the service network to fix these things, instead they rely on customers fitting the parts themselves, as most local bike shops won't touch them...not good.
Bike shops here will, expect the motors or controllers of these "other" brand ebikes. But typical stuff like gears and brakes etc they do. But less a local warranty support and service center is a must.
Oh my God, I don't know how to drive a bicycle, hahahahaha
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👍 Thanks for watching!
Expensive bike with still, visible cables with strange tape on it 🤦 like an €350 eBike. Amazing
Strange tape? Where was that?
No GPS or lock function = No buy.
None of those no. But they would push the price up more you could always hide an airtag on it somewhere.
Engwe what a stupid brand name. Sounds like Angry!
It does sound like angry yes I agree.
Too many bikes reviews 😑 this isn't good pks review more PC and phones bro.
Phones and PCs when I get them. In between those I review other tech related stuff like this.