Marsau was the star of this episode for me. I love when men hold other men accountable. Low key he actually does this alot but most times he sound self righteous this time he was just spitting facts. I enjoyed this.
@@roddaniels3499 there are scenes where Marsau hold Martell accountable with Maurice. Not necessarily about Melody but about other stuff like his license and his business issues.
The Fletchers can both be looking at the exact same bank statement & feel 2 different ways. Nell can think ‘I’m below my magic number; we’re broke’ and Chris can think ‘We good; Let’s take a vacation’. Everyone looks at money differently.
Bravo Marsau 👏 For the first time in the history of Love and Marriage Huntsville, you got a WOW! from Kempire 🙌 Marasu was indeed the star of this episode 🤩
Marsua is a very wise man. I've seen one of his sit-down interviews with Carlos, and now this scene. I believe what he giving on the show is for tv. He loves getting the folks spun up.
Nell refusing therapy when she's the one upset and crying is funny to me. Folks who really need therapy are the ones who think everyone but self need it.
lol Chris done told us before he tells them kids NO when they ask for him for money. That’s why he giggled when Nell said she be giving them money. Nell is overly stressed because she allows herself to be over burdened with her kids problems. They can talk to Chris about anything but he seems to have set a firm boundary with money. And two things can be true at the same time! Nell NEEDS therapy to handle her emotions properly AND to have effective relationships with her children. Her children ALSO needs to stop depending on their parents to assist them.
🎯🎯🎯. They seem to be on different pages and that stokes the firey issues woth their kids…look at what has happened with Chris’s dtr😔. They all need therapy, healing and some better communication skills. Their way of handling things have them adult kids on edge and afraid to even talk to them…son depressed and his dtr abandoned and ostracized. A mess
Tricia's ex had a lot of nerve asking her to pay a cent toward the divorce filing. I feel the same as you about Tricia paying for it. I would have done it a long time ago.
I believe Nell needs therapy the most because her behavior might be the reason why her kids act the way they act. And I agree with her that those are grown adults, but I can also see that as parents, her and Chris never give them that emotional love that they needed they replace it with monetary love. Nell needs to heal her inner child because her kids are not fully THE issue, they are just a symptom.
I feel for Nel. I’d be stressed out and upset too. If the ADULT kids dont want to hear her mouth…don’t ask her for money AND not pay it back. I bet Nel would be different if everytime they came to her was about family and fellowship vs. I need money 🤷🏾♀️
It hurts Nell’s feelings because in telling her kids they need to grow up and stop using her as an atm and handle their own problems and create boundaries their response was to say she needs to go to therapy or counseling or they should all go to family counseling which she and Chris will no doubt be the ones paying for it.
Not surprised the guy left Marsau saying that he will figure it out on his own. Marsau is a great lecturer on everything that is wrong with folk. He was not able to answer dudes questions because he has never experienced any of that. Dr Francis would have been better.
THIS!!!! Bc how can he have ANYTHING productive to say when his reality is “it’s cheaper to keep her” while treating his wife like a stupid child that he cant stand. That’s just as harmful for kids to see and observe.
The other issue is most business owners do not have a retirement or health insurance. They have to be intentional about those things because as business owners, they are considered independent contractors. With that being said, I understand the stress of seeing lump sums of money going out often with this many children. I agree…Nell is reacting on something deeper too!! At the end of the day, most parents try to support their kids and sometimes to a fault! You don’t help your kids by not holding them responsible and / or accountable. If you come to their rescue every time they encounter a problem, they will never learn the lesson! At this point, I don’t pay legal fees, for drugs and alcohol and what is considered many other regular expenses such as rent, utilities… I’ll get you this…TRY TELLING YOUR “GROWN KID” to sit down to meet with you to go over their pay and bills to see how you can help them to manage their finances better. WATCH THEIR REACTION!! And on that note, allow their reaction to help you with yours!😊 I did not ask my parents for things I wanted for myself for this reason. I did not want my dad asking me any questions about how much money I made, bank accounts…
Why does Nell seem more stressed about the finances than Chris? And she's unhinged, Sis could most definitely benefit from therapy. She's such an old school southern Mama. Smh
Nell is not a safe space for her kids. You can give truth in love and i don’t think she knows how to do that. If you’re already in a jam the last thing anybody wants is to be kicked while they’re down and barked at. What she says may be right but she’s emotionally immature and overreacts and her message gets lost in her terrible delivery.
She reminds me of a lot of people who grow up in a “chew up the meat, spit out the bones” kind of household. I agree with you - in the delivery, sometimes her message is completely lost.
I can only imagine the things she has said to those kids, name calling, etc…that glimpse of how they cussed out her step dtr for that first family dinner scene told me all I needed to know. I been 👀 at them sideways since
As I watched the scenes with Nell, I saw myself when my sons were in their teens. I had to really hear them and take a look in the mirror. It was very uncomfortable and it made my heart ache to know I caused the level of pain that I did in them. I apologized and improved myself. Sometimes our kids want us to acknowledge the pain we have caused them. I definitely would go from 0 to 100 for the simplest things. Once I began to unpack I realized it was a learned behavior that needed to stop with me. I hope she really try to change. Now Trish's ex husband is full of crap! How do you leave her and expect her to remain loyal to you. Additionally, how are you mad at Ken for picking up the slack. Obviously you are an absent dad because if you were active sir the teacher would know you. Please Marquez have several seats and sign the divorce papers. Side note, Trish's body is something I dream of but too lazy to live in the gym for...lol
Good for you! Bless u for being humble enuf as a mom to stop, examine yourself and making changes. It was probably a turning pt they will always remember
Trisha most definitely was at Martell's house, but since it was during the time when Ken was chasing her, she doesn't want him to find out that she was talking to Martell too but Ken jumped to the top because its clear he was willing to take care of her and her children. Martell was struggling to take care of himself when he first got a divorce, so he damn sure wasn't able to take care of Trish and her kids.
I found it interesting that she had more chemistry with Hoetell than she does with Ken. He’s a safe bet and the caretaker as unsaid. It’s too bad that it seems she’s gone mess him up bc she don’t really like him like that 😢
Nell's intervention was so unfair. Why did Nell end up looking like the bad guy. ? All she wants is for her kids to grow the hell up and start being responsible for their own lives. That message did not resonate in that therapy session. It was all about Nell not listening ? Give me a break. I'm sick of grown kids leaning on their parents for everything. Nell is just sick of all of them. That's her only issue. Chris is no support for her.
Sadly, I grew up with a generation , that didn't value therapy. They are in the pull yourself with your bootstraps/ pull up your panties and move on kinda folks. I think therapy can be extremely helpful. We need to change the mindset.
Parents want less disappointment and added stress, and more reasons to celebrate their young adults🤦🏾♀️ The kids are shifting from her battered ATM syndrome to how she communicates with them. Iisten to your parents' advice or suffer YOUR consequences, Point, Blank, Period‼️ I bet her communication style and their relationships would somewhat improve if they got their ISH together.
Trish ex is very typical 😂 blame her and the man that’s there. Just say you a deadbeat sir. Trish crazy as hell for not filing on her own imo. There’s no way I would’ve gone 5 whole years even if he wasn’t in agreement. Boy bye. $400 is nothing to my peace
Idk it’s something about Trisha🤔 her scenes are cringey!!!!! When she made the comment about “oh Ken will pay it” I was like hmm her energy is OFF. She should see a therapist.
Nell wants to be perceived as a strong black woman. Therapy is considered a weakness in the black community and there is a stigma that something is wrong with you. You’re right Kemper, there is definitely a communication issue between Nell & Chris as a couple. When their adult kids ask for a large sum of money , Nell or Chris shouldn’t give them an immediate response. They should tell them they will discuss it privately and get back to them. They need to be on a United front and even if they agree to disagree it should never be known to anyone. This is how your kids or family will play you! He is always the “good cop” and Nell is always the “bad cop” ! That dynamic needs to change. I also didn’t like how Nell kept saying they were borrowing HER money, she comes off emasculating Chris! Also that convo with her son that it was only the two of them, even though it was just the first two years of his life. How the hell would he remember their their “bond” at two years old?!! 😅 It sounds like she always kept a division between her son and Chris , like an “us against them “ mindset. I’ll bet Chris wasn’t allowed to discipline him, because he was HER child! I can see how Chris’s daughter felt like an outsider around Nell. So many women expects the man to take care of them & their child but they don’t give them the authority, mine and ours mindset. I hope that Nell and her family continues family counseling and individual counseling. Not just for the show.
I feel like I watched a big long therapy session instead of an episode of love and marriage Huntsville. Don’t get me wrong. It’s OK but it seems like it’s a lot of that every episode now it’s weird this season.
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Marsau was the star of this episode for me. I love when men hold other men accountable. Low key he actually does this alot but most times he sound self righteous this time he was just spitting facts. I enjoyed this.
He never checked Martel liked that?
@@roddaniels3499 there are scenes where Marsau hold Martell accountable with Maurice. Not necessarily about Melody but about other stuff like his license and his business issues.
Marsua acts for the cameras. He has a lot of sense. When he puts all jokes aside, he drops some intelligible information.
I wish he would hold Martell accountable like that. He did good but his mention of Mel being like the bum who left his family is crazy
The Fletchers can both be looking at the exact same bank statement & feel 2 different ways. Nell can think ‘I’m below my magic number; we’re broke’ and Chris can think ‘We good; Let’s take a vacation’. Everyone looks at money differently.
Yeah a lot of people have a set balance they don't like to go below
Marsua handled that like a champ. I was shook! I was rooting for him through the TV!
Bravo Marsau 👏 For the first time in the history of Love and Marriage Huntsville, you got a WOW! from Kempire 🙌 Marasu was indeed the star of this episode 🤩
Marsua is a very wise man. I've seen one of his sit-down interviews with Carlos, and now this scene.
I believe what he giving on the show is for tv. He loves getting the folks spun up.
Nell refusing therapy when she's the one upset and crying is funny to me. Folks who really need therapy are the ones who think everyone but self need it.
So I can’t believe I am going to ay this, I was so impressed with Marsau and what he was sharing with Trisha’s soon to be ex husband! 😱. WOW! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Tricia lost her PARENTS AND SISTER IN SIX MONTHS 😢😢😢
So PROUD of Marsau! 🎉 He was excellent in this episode.
lol Chris done told us before he tells them kids NO when they ask for him for money. That’s why he giggled when Nell said she be giving them money. Nell is overly stressed because she allows herself to be over burdened with her kids problems. They can talk to Chris about anything but he seems to have set a firm boundary with money.
And two things can be true at the same time! Nell NEEDS therapy to handle her emotions properly AND to have effective relationships with her children. Her children ALSO needs to stop depending on their parents to assist them.
🎯🎯🎯. They seem to be on different pages and that stokes the firey issues woth their kids…look at what has happened with Chris’s dtr😔. They all need therapy, healing and some better communication skills. Their way of handling things have them adult kids on edge and afraid to even talk to them…son depressed and his dtr abandoned and ostracized. A mess
This was the best episode since the show aired.
I'm a believer in the word No. Mine mainly gets her needs. Wants are only If my budget will allow for it.
Tricia's ex had a lot of nerve asking her to pay a cent toward the divorce filing. I feel the same as you about Tricia paying for it. I would have done it a long time ago.
You can’t be a stand-up guy sleeping with a married woman
I believe Nell needs therapy the most because her behavior might be the reason why her kids act the way they act. And I agree with her that those are grown adults, but I can also see that as parents, her and Chris never give them that emotional love that they needed they replace it with monetary love. Nell needs to heal her inner child because her kids are not fully THE issue, they are just a symptom.
Agreed!!! Like they didn’t get here alone. And there are clearly some communication issues with Chris…look at the mess with his other dtr.
I feel for Nel. I’d be stressed out and upset too. If the ADULT kids dont want to hear her mouth…don’t ask her for money AND not pay it back. I bet Nel would be different if everytime they came to her was about family and fellowship vs. I need money 🤷🏾♀️
Dr. Francis has a TH-cam Channel where he features didn't therapists weekly. He also goes live often and discusses topics related to MFT.
HEY KEMPIRE💜I AGREE, AT LEAST BRING DR. FRANCIS ON MORE OFTEN. IT CAN TAKE THE SHOW TO ANOTHER LEVEL.
Trish husband is toxic
Nell only has herself to blame. Don’t bail your adult children out! They have to make their own way.
It hurts Nell’s feelings because in telling her kids they need to grow up and stop using her as an atm and handle their own problems and create boundaries their response was to say she needs to go to therapy or counseling or they should all go to family counseling which she and Chris will no doubt be the ones paying for it.
Not surprised the guy left Marsau saying that he will figure it out on his own. Marsau is a great lecturer on everything that is wrong with folk. He was not able to answer dudes questions because he has never experienced any of that. Dr Francis would have been better.
THIS!!!! Bc how can he have ANYTHING productive to say when his reality is “it’s cheaper to keep her” while treating his wife like a stupid child that he cant stand. That’s just as harmful for kids to see and observe.
The other issue is most business owners do not have a retirement or health insurance. They have to be intentional about those things because as business owners, they are considered independent contractors. With that being said, I understand the stress of seeing lump sums of money going out often with this many children. I agree…Nell is reacting on something deeper too!! At the end of the day, most parents try to support their kids and sometimes to a fault! You don’t help your kids by not holding them responsible and / or accountable. If you come to their rescue every time they encounter a problem, they will never learn the lesson!
At this point, I don’t pay legal fees, for drugs and alcohol and what is considered many other regular expenses such as rent, utilities…
I’ll get you this…TRY TELLING YOUR “GROWN KID” to sit down to meet with you to go over their pay and bills to see how you can help them to manage their finances better. WATCH THEIR REACTION!! And on that note, allow their reaction to help you with yours!😊 I did not ask my parents for things I wanted for myself for this reason. I did not want my dad asking me any questions about how much money I made, bank accounts…
Why does Nell seem more stressed about the finances than Chris?
And she's unhinged, Sis could most definitely benefit from therapy. She's such an old school southern Mama. Smh
Because Chris tells them kids no lol
Nell is an Aquarius mom. Anybody with one of those already knows how tough the Fletcher household is.
Lord be with us!!! Now that I know that my heart goes out to them 😢😢
Marsau handled that so well, I actually found him attractive. Then, I smacked myself... I'm good now!!!!!!
😂😂😂😂
Lol !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
If I were in Trisha's shoes, I would have paid the $400 and cut my ties.
Nell is not a safe space for her kids. You can give truth in love and i don’t think she knows how to do that. If you’re already in a jam the last thing anybody wants is to be kicked while they’re down and barked at. What she says may be right but she’s emotionally immature and overreacts and her message gets lost in her terrible delivery.
She reminds me of a lot of people who grow up in a “chew up the meat, spit out the bones” kind of household. I agree with you - in the delivery, sometimes her message is completely lost.
I can only imagine the things she has said to those kids, name calling, etc…that glimpse of how they cussed out her step dtr for that first family dinner scene told me all I needed to know. I been 👀 at them sideways since
As I watched the scenes with Nell, I saw myself when my sons were in their teens. I had to really hear them and take a look in the mirror. It was very uncomfortable and it made my heart ache to know I caused the level of pain that I did in them. I apologized and improved myself. Sometimes our kids want us to acknowledge the pain we have caused them. I definitely would go from 0 to 100 for the simplest things. Once I began to unpack I realized it was a learned behavior that needed to stop with me. I hope she really try to change. Now Trish's ex husband is full of crap! How do you leave her and expect her to remain loyal to you. Additionally, how are you mad at Ken for picking up the slack. Obviously you are an absent dad because if you were active sir the teacher would know you. Please Marquez have several seats and sign the divorce papers. Side note, Trish's body is something I dream of but too lazy to live in the gym for...lol
Good for you! Bless u for being humble enuf as a mom to stop, examine yourself and making changes. It was probably a turning pt they will always remember
You have know idea how loud I screamed when I heard the intro music!! AYEEEE TWERK SESSION 💃🏾💃🏾💃🏾
Trisha most definitely was at Martell's house, but since it was during the time when Ken was chasing her, she doesn't want him to find out that she was talking to Martell too but Ken jumped to the top because its clear he was willing to take care of her and her children. Martell was struggling to take care of himself when he first got a divorce, so he damn sure wasn't able to take care of Trish and her kids.
I found it interesting that she had more chemistry with Hoetell than she does with Ken. He’s a safe bet and the caretaker as unsaid. It’s too bad that it seems she’s gone mess him up bc she don’t really like him like that 😢
You living it up in Atlanta. Have fun
Nell's intervention was so unfair. Why did Nell end up looking like the bad guy. ? All she wants is for her kids to grow the hell up and start being responsible for their own lives. That message did not resonate in that therapy session. It was all about Nell not listening ? Give me a break. I'm sick of grown kids leaning on their parents for everything. Nell is just sick of all of them. That's her only issue. Chris is no support for her.
Exactly! Those kids are grown and her issue with them is completely valid.
Yea they gaslight the heck out of her
Well said totally agree.
I agree 💯. This generation thinks they're privileged. Get a dam job! Parents spending their damn retirement helping their asses!
I agree 💯. Well said
Sadly, I grew up with a generation , that didn't value therapy. They are in the pull yourself with your bootstraps/ pull up your panties and move on kinda folks. I think therapy can be extremely helpful. We need to change the mindset.
Atl got in that tail about that intro music and you brought it back ‼️‼️‼️ thankyou i enjoyed you at city winery atlanta 🫶🏾
I been waiting on this 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Nell doesn’t need therapy. She needs her money back.
Right!
Parents want less disappointment and added stress, and more reasons to celebrate their young adults🤦🏾♀️
The kids are shifting from her battered ATM syndrome to how she communicates with them.
Iisten to your parents' advice or suffer YOUR consequences, Point, Blank, Period‼️
I bet her communication style and their relationships would somewhat improve if they got their ISH together.
I love Dr. Francis!
Trish ex is very typical 😂 blame her and the man that’s there. Just say you a deadbeat sir. Trish crazy as hell for not filing on her own imo. There’s no way I would’ve gone 5 whole years even if he wasn’t in agreement. Boy bye. $400 is nothing to my peace
He hasn't been on any other show. I don't think the Whitlows appreciated him.
There is a strong rumor that Marquez is living with another woman, and they have a baby👀
I Love ❤ you, Kempire. You are so Sweet.
Markus does not seem that bright either IMO.
Idk it’s something about Trisha🤔 her scenes are cringey!!!!! When she made the comment about “oh Ken will pay it” I was like hmm her energy is OFF. She should see a therapist.
Nell’s behavior makes Me think maybe she was a side chick.
Just like Kimmie.
& I Oop🤭
There was some overlapping in the relationships….
But they swear up and down they are not side chicks. 😏
The divorces were not finalized.
Whatever happened to Mattel’s suit line?!
Nell wants to be perceived as a strong black woman. Therapy is considered a weakness in the black community and there is a stigma that something is wrong with you. You’re right Kemper, there is definitely a communication issue between Nell & Chris as a couple. When their adult kids ask for a large sum of money , Nell or Chris shouldn’t give them an immediate response. They should tell them they will discuss it privately and get back to them. They need to be on a United front and even if they agree to disagree it should never be known to anyone. This is how your kids or family will play you! He is always the “good cop” and Nell is always the “bad cop” ! That dynamic needs to change. I also didn’t like how Nell kept saying they were borrowing HER money, she comes off emasculating Chris! Also that convo with her son that it was only the two of them, even though it was just the first two years of his life. How the hell would he remember their their “bond” at two years old?!! 😅 It sounds like she always kept a division between her son and Chris , like an “us against them “ mindset. I’ll bet Chris wasn’t allowed to discipline him, because he was HER child! I can see how Chris’s daughter felt like an outsider around Nell. So many women expects the man to take care of them & their child but they don’t give them the authority, mine and ours mindset. I hope that Nell and her family continues family counseling and individual counseling. Not just for the show.
I feel like I watched a big long therapy session instead of an episode of love and marriage Huntsville. Don’t get me wrong. It’s OK but it seems like it’s a lot of that every episode now it’s weird this season.
Ehh... Dr. Francis is confrontational and argumentative enough to seem like he might-could deliver some genuine advice AND to be good for reality TV.
Shelley Duval passed away also 😢
THAT DUDE SUS!
This show has been a bit boring to me, as of late.
Bravo Marsau 👏 For the first time in the history of Love and Marriage Huntsville, you got a WOW! from Kempire 🙌 Marasu was indeed the star of this episode 🤩 @kempire