NASCAR really mishandled this. They didn’t have to kick Truex out and add a 13th driver. Just kicking Bowyer and replacing him with Gordon would have been fine
It wasn’t just Clint. MWR as a whole was involved in this controversy. Ty Norris told Brian Vickers to pit on the restart and in that moment I think everyone knew something was odd. Truex not only couldn’t benefit from this, he legit got screwed by this situation. Heck, he lost his sponsor and eventually left the team. This race was just a disaster for NASCAR itself. Hell, MWR probably isn’t the only team that cheated. Joey Logano was able to get into the playoffs because Front Row allegedly told David Gilliland to give Logano his spot in the last restart. Not to throw crap at Logano, I doubt that in his case he was as aware of his personal situation as Bowyer was in his own mess, but still, I think Penske and Front Row should have received a harsher penalty. Just my opinion, I’ve only started following NASCAR in 2021, but I’m aware to an extent of the disaster that was the 2013 Federated Auto Parts 400
There's two things that didn't happen. He didn t have a flat and Jr. didn't get into him. They should have known with that radio call bout his arm it would look suspicious. Two of the best crew chiefs in Nascar both pointed out the hardest part of gaining an innovative edge is being smart enough to know what to do and applying it so no one knows it was done. Evernham & Petre
Sure leaves a very sordid legacy for Michael Waltrip as team owner...first the jet fuel at Daytona 2007, and then this. A mighty fall from the apex of his career that was winning the final race of Dale Earnhardt's career that was the 2001 Daytona 500.
Thanks for calling the situation out for what it was Jr... basically confronted Boyer during the interview and said he "just spun out"... "craziest thing you ever saw"....
It does suck when u realize a good driver is racing for such a unsportsmanlike disrespectful organization, im just glad that he is having much better success now as opposed to then
Lmao I completely forgot he claimed that Jr got into him. I would've almost believed him if he hadn't said that, because you can CLEARLY see Jr did not touch him on the replays. He went one step too far in the lie and made it really obvious he was full of shit.
I remember when it was routine for cars to let their teammates pass them to lead a lap, when they used to get a bonus point for leading a lap. Thats basically the same thing “manipulating the points to help a teammate” but now it all “oh thats a sin”. Or not putting your teammate a lap down before a caution/stage break. Whats the difference. It race fixing anyway you look at it. But if JR would have done it to help Truex it would have been “great strategy or a selfless action by JR”.
yes, Penske and Front Row Motorsports got away with it unlike Michael Waltrip Racing which git punished because they were guilty as fuck of cheating the points system during the regular season finale. it why we now have the 16 car 4 rounds format with 4 eliminations per round of 3 races in the first 3 round and final 4 1 race finale round where one can win the championship if they win race or finish the highest position of the remaining 4 playoff drivers in the playoffs.
"I think we had a flat tire or something" what is with the second guessing what the issue was, if its a flat tire you WOULD KNOW there wouldn't be that "or something" apart of it
I will argue on my deathbed they did nothing wrong. The chase stupid gimmickey points forced their hand, and there wasn't even a rule in place against doing something like this at the time
He knew what was he doing and that team knew what they had at stake. The way Clint was acting that night and in subsequent interviews about it, he was trying to wiggle his way out of it and be the huckster but it didn't work. His conduct with Ricky Craven the day or so after in his interview really showed that he knew what he did, he just never admitted to it.
You know they probably could have orchestrated it much better than they did of they used much less obvious codewords and Clint could've been better at lying and hiding it
I think every car tries to get every advantage they can. It's called competition. There are a lot of rules to slow down cars , which I don't like. The thrill of auto racing is that it is the most dangerous sport, but now it's like watching a parade for 95% of the race. No one even gets hurt any more, it's like driving down the freeway during rush hour.
Clint is a pathetic excuse for a driver! He should have been kicked out of the Chase that year... But the Chase sucks or many reasons, it leads to this sort of behavior!
If I recall correctly, Nascar let Gordon in on the chase that year, so they actually had a 16 car field. Why are so many people on here crying that Boyer 'screwed Gordon out of a championship'?
Tuesdaysgonewtw Because if Clint didn't spin out, Gordon would have gone in legitimately, because he was next in the points leader board, not Truex. NASCAR let Gordon in the chase, in response to this controversy. So, Clint almost screwed Gordon out of a title opportunity completely
Through a series of position fixing. For just simply this video, he spun to force Newman to be challenged on the ensuing restart, which did not happen as he lost spots on pit road. This caused situation A where teammate Truex qualified for the Chase for a week.
I'm still a fan of Bowyers, but yeah.. Whether he was told to or not i'm sure Bowyer spun on purpose for Truex. Just another case of teams trying to get ahead. Its in the past though and all have survived past the mistake. MWR is gone, Waltrip lost the NAPA sponsorship, Waltrips still with FOX, Truex is dominating the year so far and Bowyer finally landed himself in a decent ride again in the 14 that hopefully he will have better luck next year with. By the way, Gordon DID get included in the chase that year by NASCAR. People are remembering wrong.
Based upon the comments, I guess alotta folks seem to forgot Joonior did something similar at Bristol, Many moons ago. & sure it may not have been a championship on the line type deal, but you get the point.
Jr is such a good ole boy that he isn't gonna badmouth anybody or call something out like that on live TV haha. Everyone knew, including myself as a 15 year old, this was all a crock
I didn't trust Clint Bowyer,when Michael Waltrip put him in his racing team. Clint just never liked Michael Waltrip, Clint screwed Michael Waltrip out of his racing team. I wouldn't have Clint in my racing team in the first place. Michael made the biggest mistake putting Clint in his racing team.
It was actually Ty Norris, the GM of MWR who made the call. He also was serving as crew chief of the #55 this week and made Vickers pit on the restart.
Arms tired....hot in there.....code for we need a caution for our teammate. Guaranteed the have secret language worked out in some situations these teams are smart
Few years ago, but from what I can see (and think), Bowyer might've been completely innocent through this whole thing (And didn't want to cheat in the first place) and tried to ignore that, but then spun. At least, that's what I think.
Just think though if Clint did not do that, he probably would not be in that 14 car. Once Clint gets use to the SHR equipment and gets sponsorship, he will do fine.
even since joey Logano is my favorite driver i didn't want him to get into the chase by cheating with Clint bower i would rather have him not get in the chase and don't cheat
Love NASCAR, this is what you get when you have the “chase” “ cup car”!!! Bring back real stock car racing. Not this crap we have today. Same goes for NHRA, they have all lost their way. We need a new racing series dedicated to RACING!!!
This would be very easy to pull off, he could’ve started complaining about a tire going down and/or the car being real loose, their terrible story tellers and he’s a terrible liar lol, but I still like him. All these team are cheating lol
Clint has that "I'm guilty. I'm ashamed" tone to his voice.
I second that!
And look on his face
Yep teams have been doing this for years. Probably offered him a little cash for his troubles
Who’s here after martinsville 2024
NASCAR really mishandled this. They didn’t have to kick Truex out and add a 13th driver. Just kicking Bowyer and replacing him with Gordon would have been fine
It wasn’t just Clint. MWR as a whole
was involved in this controversy. Ty Norris told Brian Vickers to pit on the restart and in that moment I think everyone knew something was odd. Truex not only couldn’t benefit from this, he legit got screwed by this situation. Heck, he lost his sponsor and eventually left the team.
This race was just a disaster for NASCAR itself. Hell, MWR probably isn’t the only team that cheated. Joey Logano was able to get into the playoffs because Front Row allegedly told David Gilliland to give Logano his spot in the last restart. Not to throw crap at Logano, I doubt that in his case he was as aware of his personal situation as Bowyer was in his own mess, but still, I think Penske and Front Row should have received a harsher penalty. Just my opinion, I’ve only started following NASCAR in 2021, but I’m aware to an extent of the disaster that was the 2013 Federated Auto Parts 400
Notice he changed the story from lost a tire to jr hit him
There's two things that didn't happen. He didn t have a flat and Jr. didn't get into him.
They should have known with that radio call bout his arm it would look suspicious.
Two of the best crew chiefs in Nascar both pointed out the hardest part of gaining an innovative edge is being smart enough to know what to do and applying it so no one knows it was done. Evernham & Petre
Jrs interview says it all lol
but you have to admit he's a good teammate
And a good liar...
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well that kind of stunt was the reason MWR got shut down, and you can thank Bowyer for that
MWR should not have pulled either stunt then.
@@Steventhe2nd It was more Michael Waltrip
Ross Chastian and Austin Dillion arriving in Martinsville on November 3, 2024
in car video freezes for a split second right when he yanks the wheel... 🙄🤔
Funny, look where truex is now compared to bowyer
Where is he?
To be fair, Kurt Busch had a similar situation a few years prior and he just couldn't compete in subpar equipment.
truex is BEAST now
Marco Flores Truex is earnin' and burnin' rubber and money
Marco Flores truex comes within inches of a Daytona 500 win and follows it up with a few more wins while Clint hasn't won in years and has to cheat
Jeff Gordan is my favorite NASCAR driver.
Mine to
You mean Gordon
Jimmy Spencer I dare you to go and race part time in the cup series.
You can just tell how hard he was trying to spin
we had a flat tire.... less then 30 seconds later Jr got into us... lies lies lies
2:15 bubba wallace on a random sunday in November 2024
Haha blaming Bubba that’s weak.
Sure leaves a very sordid legacy for Michael Waltrip as team owner...first the jet fuel at Daytona 2007, and then this. A mighty fall from the apex of his career that was winning the final race of Dale Earnhardt's career that was the 2001 Daytona 500.
If you’re not cheating you’re not trying.
Thanks for calling the situation out for what it was Jr... basically confronted Boyer during the interview and said he "just spun out"... "craziest thing you ever saw"....
And now we have to listen to him every Sunday...thank god for the mute button...
dale has got that look like, I know that was on purpose
@Rocket Man k den
The end of MWR
Sad that Truex was penalized for something that he, as a driver, had no control over. MWR came in as a cheat and went out as a cheat.
It does suck when u realize a good driver is racing for such a unsportsmanlike disrespectful organization, im just glad that he is having much better success now as opposed to then
Yeah Truex did nothing wrong there, but it permanently tarnished his reputation as a result of it.
I feel bad for all the MWR drivers, since they were forced to throw away their chance to win it all.
@@erikscherer22 LOL no it didn’t
@@BANGITSME87 Yes it did, as a lifelong Bowyer fan I still get asked all the time why I support a "cheater".
I'm sure Michael Waltrip knew!
Lmao I completely forgot he claimed that Jr got into him. I would've almost believed him if he hadn't said that, because you can CLEARLY see Jr did not touch him on the replays. He went one step too far in the lie and made it really obvious he was full of shit.
Thank you MWR, Very Coo-
*Oh.*
I remember when it was routine for cars to let their teammates pass them to lead a lap, when they used to get a bonus point for leading a lap. Thats basically the same thing “manipulating the points to help a teammate” but now it all “oh thats a sin”. Or not putting your teammate a lap down before a caution/stage break. Whats the difference. It race fixing anyway you look at it. But if JR would have done it to help Truex it would have been “great strategy or a selfless action by JR”.
Clint Bowyer your a flat out lier. Then blame it on Dale Jr.
Liar ***
Bowyer was following his team orders, it is his job too. Clint should've of been kicked out the and gordon should of been in.
can someone please help me find this full race? this race was absolutely crazy and im amazed i cant find it anywhere
"Now Clint You Spin Dat car when Dey ask's you if its HOT in there " "ok You got dat Clint"
Spoken like a true politician, well done
This is the most Formula 1 thing I've ever seen.
Funny how Larson was thrown out of NASCAR for a year for saying a word, but Bowyer did not get thrown out for Fixing a race, What a joke Bowyer is
LePage didn't get thrown out for his Talladega crash in 2008
Wasnt this the same race gilliard let logano around him so logano would get in?
Yup
yes, Penske and Front Row Motorsports got away with it unlike Michael Waltrip Racing which git punished because they were guilty as fuck of cheating the points system during the regular season finale. it why we now have the 16 car 4 rounds format with 4 eliminations per round of 3 races in the first 3 round and final 4 1 race finale round where one can win the championship if they win race or finish the highest position of the remaining 4 playoff drivers in the playoffs.
Funny. Jr spun out on purpose at a race.. Bristol was it? haha
Completely different situation, and he was fined 25 points for doing it. He was attempting to stay on the lead lap, and was rightly punished.
Greg Stephens when?
+Casey The Nascar Man Food City 500 in 2004. I was at that race.
It was to stay on lead lap and he admitted to it and was fined
And he admitted it. And was penalized.
Sounded like he hit the throttle a little bit hard in the turn.
+Bertha Wilson Yes he Pumped the throttle. Turn the speaker up loud and listen.
Bertha Wilson why did you reply to your own comment lol 😂
I haven't been able to stand looking at Boyer's face ever since this. Especially the way he tried to deflect it in the interview.
Remember your watching a TV show. A big TV studio.
I mean, Clint did what he had too to put Truex into the Chase.
+JoshyMinecraft Exactly, it's a strategy, he really isn't cheating.....
+I drink a gallon of bleach everyday it is win money is involved plus everyone would do it if that was the case.
Wade Wright Yep
Josh Lee It backfired on him though with NASCARs penalty
@@themways no dumbass, it's unsportsmanlike misconduct at the very least
"I think we had a flat tire or something" what is with the second guessing what the issue was, if its a flat tire you WOULD KNOW there wouldn't be that "or something" apart of it
I will argue on my deathbed they did nothing wrong. The chase stupid gimmickey points forced their hand, and there wasn't even a rule in place against doing something like this at the time
He knew what was he doing and that team knew what they had at stake. The way Clint was acting that night and in subsequent interviews about it, he was trying to wiggle his way out of it and be the huckster but it didn't work. His conduct with Ricky Craven the day or so after in his interview really showed that he knew what he did, he just never admitted to it.
I know this may sound strange but it seems like Jamie little always interviews Clint bowyer
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Angela lower
He was fighting following team orders and his own feelings and he went with the team orders
Will forever carry the weight of that one decision too.
This aged literally like fine cheese
He cheats, then he lies... He’s no better than Ryan Braun, Tom Brady, Alex Rodriguez, and/or Kevin Harvick.
You know they probably could have orchestrated it much better than they did of they used much less obvious codewords and Clint could've been better at lying and hiding it
Glad they failed though lol.
MWR’s old building is still empty. I miss going there
I'm here after the 2020 Martinsville Race for the Championship 4
Just remember jr did this at Bristol in 04. Ended up winning i guess at least jr admitted it
No he didn’t win the race he admitted to and was fined points dumb fuck
He really wanted to ruin Gordon but instead it backfired on Clints ass
It had nothing to do against Gordon. It was for Truex
That was the Logano/Vickers situation.
I think every car tries to get every advantage they can. It's called competition. There are a lot of rules to slow down cars , which I don't like. The thrill of auto racing is that it is the most dangerous sport, but now it's like watching a parade for 95% of the race. No one even gets hurt any more, it's like driving down the freeway during rush hour.
Poor Truex
I'd rather spit on Bowyer than cheer for him, but the two laps previous he was loose in the same corner.
Clint is a pathetic excuse for a driver! He should have been kicked out of the Chase that year... But the Chase sucks or many reasons, it leads to this sort of behavior!
If I recall correctly, Nascar let Gordon in on the chase that year, so they actually had a 16 car field. Why are so many people on here crying that Boyer 'screwed Gordon out of a championship'?
Tuesdaysgonewtw Because if Clint didn't spin out, Gordon would have gone in legitimately, because he was next in the points leader board, not Truex. NASCAR let Gordon in the chase, in response to this controversy. So, Clint almost screwed Gordon out of a title opportunity completely
Can’t even look straight into the camera... guilty
How exactly did he cheat
Through a series of position fixing. For just simply this video, he spun to force Newman to be challenged on the ensuing restart, which did not happen as he lost spots on pit road. This caused situation A where teammate Truex qualified for the Chase for a week.
I'm still a fan of Bowyers, but yeah.. Whether he was told to or not i'm sure Bowyer spun on purpose for Truex. Just another case of teams trying to get ahead. Its in the past though and all have survived past the mistake. MWR is gone, Waltrip lost the NAPA sponsorship, Waltrips still with FOX, Truex is dominating the year so far and Bowyer finally landed himself in a decent ride again in the 14 that hopefully he will have better luck next year with. By the way, Gordon DID get included in the chase that year by NASCAR. People are remembering wrong.
Based upon the comments, I guess alotta folks seem to forgot Joonior did something similar at Bristol, Many moons ago. & sure it may not have been a championship on the line type deal, but you get the point.
Tiger Cub last I checked the man had free agency
When I lost respect for Clint
Hunter Bunn same
_ Synchronize _ Yeah, when this was fucking 4 years ago and 5 months!
i lost mine at 2012
Lost all respect for Clint and Michael
Jr is such a good ole boy that he isn't gonna badmouth anybody or call something out like that on live TV haha. Everyone knew, including myself as a 15 year old, this was all a crock
Why is it ok to wreck other, but not ok to wreck yourself?
You spelled Gordon wrong in the description. Anyone noticed?
Clint destroyed MWR
I would say that call came from Mike
I didn't trust Clint Bowyer,when Michael Waltrip put him in his racing team. Clint just never liked Michael Waltrip, Clint screwed Michael Waltrip out of his racing team. I wouldn't have Clint in my racing team in the first place. Michael made the biggest mistake putting Clint in his racing team.
It wasn’t Clint’s fault. Think he’d have a ride if he said no? Blame waltrip
It was actually Ty Norris, the GM of MWR who made the call. He also was serving as crew chief of the #55 this week and made Vickers pit on the restart.
His arm was hurting lol
Clint did what he was asked to do
When your a paid driver YOU DO AS YOUR TOLD
He was the Astros before they were the Astros
Lol
Wtf you people saying Clint is a pos , do you really think that him spinning out was his idea ?
Not one of Clint’s finer moments.
Arms tired....hot in there.....code for we need a caution for our teammate. Guaranteed the have secret language worked out in some situations these teams are smart
Bowyer doing too much talking just rambling on and on it’s obvious he’s guilty and lying 😂
Wonder if Clint ever apologized to Jamie for telling her a bold face lie, right to her face, on NATIONAL TV.
And nascar drivers don’t lie on live tv lol
Few years ago, but from what I can see (and think), Bowyer might've been completely innocent through this whole thing (And didn't want to cheat in the first place) and tried to ignore that, but then spun. At least, that's what I think.
I remember being at the race when all this happened.
Alex Ruane that’s when I started hating Clint
I never liked Bowyer because of that. I liked his driving ability but the fact he spin his race car out to get a caution and lie about it is not cool.
Clint talked too much. He should’ve said “I just got loose, what else do you want me to say?” and played dumb.
Five years time does sure files.
Just think though if Clint did not do that, he probably would not be in that 14 car. Once Clint gets use to the SHR equipment and gets sponsorship, he will do fine.
Still waiting.
Tony Wood for what he has 2 wins
Oh yeah. He's setting the world on fire. Rain delay much?
He won Martinsville...
true, BUT MWR would still exist, and we'd have 3 more cars in the field every week
A place of socks?
he got in gas early to spin like dale says look at throttle % off trn 4 prolly 100%
even since joey Logano is my favorite driver i didn't want him to get into the chase by cheating with Clint bower i would rather have him not get in the chase and don't cheat
killer-ethan52 logano is a little bitch
+justin richard stop crying about it little bitch lol
Everyone knows he cheated.
Watch any F1 race...
It's not his fault he was just following team orders
Love NASCAR, this is what you get when you have the “chase” “ cup car”!!! Bring back real stock car racing. Not this crap we have today. Same goes for NHRA, they have all lost their way. We need a new racing series dedicated to RACING!!!
Can’t respect that move by Clint. Almost as bad as harvick at Dega In 2015. Bringing out a caution to manipulate the championship standings.
when i first saw it, i that Dale spun him out.
Bowyer is a bum. The REAL Nelson Piquet Jr. of Nascar.
nelsinho approves
It's called strategy he did nothing wrong
King Kyle Busch that is what some kyle Busch superfan would say
It’s called you’re a fucking delusional tool
drsamw pepper He just spun, he didn’t wreck his car
oh its Jr's fault! lol
Biggest cheaters were jeff gordyn and chad knause sorry about my spelling
Who cars, F1 does it all the time and everyone is ok with it
" Never want to be that guy"...Clint Bowyer is a lier and a cheater,cannot stand him!!!!
Clint Bowyer cheated on my birthday as I was at that race.
You can't blame Bowyer for that. He was just trying to help his teammate though he said he didn't
Helping a teammate is letting them pass you when they're faster, not screwing the races and seasons of your competitors.
Bowyer is a heck of a teammate to put his neck on the line for Truex
Honestly, I feel that Bowyer's just a victim that had unintentionally gotten in some controversy.
We can blame him for being a liar.
note clint staring off into space and just looking ashamed
This would be very easy to pull off, he could’ve started complaining about a tire going down and/or the car being real loose, their terrible story tellers and he’s a terrible liar lol, but I still like him. All these team are cheating lol
It was team orders not cheating 😐
don't care, purposely spinning yourself to to try to help teammate make the 10 race NASCAR postseason is still cheating.