Same people do not want others to follow their own religion in or belief in Pakistan but when they migrate to other countries ( mostly enter illegally) they demand right not only to follow their religion but imposed their own set of laws on others …wow what a hypocrites.
@@BharatThatIsIndia we accept Shia but not Ahmadias, Ahmadias are far more away from Muslims, they will be able to get their rights if they accept themself non Muslim
@@m.talhaali572 And you wonder why Islamophobia exists? You will still say that Islam is a religion of peace and why religious terrorism is associated with Islam?
Fackistan is a joke. Constitution considers Ahmadiyas as non Muslim. Sunnis consider Shite as renegades, Fundamentalists consider every other Muslim as infidels.
Now Ahmadis are only protected in India (In South Asia & Muslim World), most of them incl. There leaders without though travelled to Pakistan under Islamic banner, but today they are not considered humans, there tombs are regularly descreated, mosque damaged /broken, and not allowed to sacrifice animals and celebrate any Islamic festivals.
Name/title changed from Mirza'iyyah /Qadiyyaniyah, later, to attract muslims, to " Ehmaddiyah" a'ankhon me'n dhool jhonkna tha, Mirza ghulam Ehmad of Qadiy'an an evil impostor of Prophethood, never enjoyed any Vedic-Uppanishadian follower's sympathies, brits & her colonies respected or tolerated what ever was recommended by masters, particularly, every breathing anti-islam spicies. Promised Messayah (temporarily) encouraged by zionist colonials.
my opinions on Islam and Muslims aside, but i do really understand their hatred for Ahmedayas, it literally goes against the fundamental rule of Islam, that there is no prophet after Prophet muhmad, but they found a new prophet, and they talk about weird stories like Jesus coming to Kashmir and settling there and a lot of other bulshit, it sounds more or less like mocking Islam than a part of islam
what fake news are you yapping about here? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmadiyya_by_country#Maps The Ahmadiyya movement started in the Indian subcontinent dum dum. The largest populations are in India, Pak, Nigeria, Ghana and other african nations. Israel does not even come close.
@@narendra62 LMAOO!!! They do not give proper freedom to Palestinian Christians. They actively try to sterilize ethiopian JEWS because they want to keep the image of israel as "white". You are brainwashed as hell. Please educate yourself. Israel is an apartheid state, it is not civilized.
God Almighty is the ultimate judge. The verdict of God Almighty is final as He said "There is no compulsion in Religion". This domain of God Almighty should not be breached.
How are Ahmadiyyas a 'religious minority' in Pakistan? Are Shaktas a religious minority in India? Are Karaite Jews a religious minority in Israel? Are Protestants a religious minority in Ireland? Call it for what it is, and stop labelling anyone and everyone who questions the peacefulness of self-proclaimed believers as 'Islamophobic'. The print isn't living up to the Shekhar Gupta name. Also, 'equal citizenship' in Pakistan never existed. Forget about Ahmadiyyas, they didn't even consider Sunni Bengalis as equals. Have you forgotten Yahya Khan? Or perhaps you haven't heard of him. The rabbit hole is so deep that we don't even talk about non muslims in Pakistan. They can't even accept muslims anymore. And you have the gall to call every commonsensical person an islamophobe.
A few judges succumbed to pressure from street thugs. They have thrown the whole country under the bus.There is something called 'occupational hazard'.You have to stand up to pressure and do the right thing.Longterm effects,just you wait and see.See what happens to your grandchildren.
idoltors r mushrik and ahmedis r murtid mushrik or kafir ki alug ibadatgahien alug books hain mgr ye murtid hain in ko ijazat nahi milegi ye iqrar karien ye non muslims hain phir jo chahe ibadat karien hm nahi rokainge islam koi banana hindu mzhb nahi hai jiska jisko pujne ko dil chahe puje yahan srf aik khuda or rasool hai hindu or sikh ki ibadat gahien khuli hain wo khuli apni puja karien bhale butparasti karien mgr murtid ki koi jaga nahi hoti
Ahmedis are not Muslims. People in non-Muslim countries think they are Muslims. The Ahmedis’ beliefs go against the fundamental Muslim beliefs which is why they have been declared non-Muslim in Pakistan, an Islamic State. After listening to the arguments of Islamic scholars the Supreme Court of Pakistan recognized its mistake and expunged the objectionable parts. This is probably the first time in Pakistan’s history that the Supreme Court invited Islamic scholars to present their case on a religious issue. Pakistanis consider Ahmedis as agents of the enemies of Islam who are committed to confusing the people about the fundamental teachings of Islam. The Supreme Court of Pakistan simply applied the law in Pakistan which prohibits Ahmedis from misleading people.
My friend who is an expert on Hanafi jurisprudence and is a Syed as well days that Shias. Ahmadis and Barelvis are not Muslim. However he respects them and says like Christians , Shias , Ahmadis and Barelvis should be allowed to pray in their own churches
@@Murali1974 he is hanafi , he says it's different from Salafi. I have worked in so many middle eastern countries, they don't consider Shias as muslims
You declare them as “Kafirs” yet they are not allowed to practice their conviction? It is sad Pakistan is heading in this direction. What kind of Islam is this? Isn’t it clear that “There is no compulsion in religion?”
Pakistan is the Totalitarian Theocratic Extremist Fanatic Medieval State of Minds of mobs supported by constitution, state-machinery, statecraft, indoctrinated population. The concept of Renaissance is very foreign to Islm as ideology.
How is it Islamophobia if the aggressor is muslim and victim is muslim .. don't try to be liberal and politically correct .. try to show real news and say islam and muslim
@@adarshwanderer5704yes shias r muslims we r against each ither on some issue but fundamentals of islam r same and on the issuues of ahmedias we r united
@@mehmoodahmed893 Common man. Ahmadis too follow the same book, the same prophet. They just think that Mehedi has already come. They just have different interpretations of Quran. Even they follow the same 5 pillars of Islam. Haj, Namaz, Salah, Roza, Zakat.
Ahmaddiya leaders were at the forefront for demanding a separate Pakistan for themselves and their Muslim brothers. Today their descendants will be cursing them. In another 50 yrs, every Pakistani will understand that partition was their ancestors' biggest mistake.
Dude Pakistan suffer from many problems. its people now officially hate its army, the army has gone bonkers right now. Pakistan has a very long journey to evolve, we do not have 75 years of evolution of democracy as happened in India. it is true. we exist, because there is Pakistan. Pakistan is everything, despite sad verdicts like these, for us there is still hope. these things happen when there is no democracy. a similar case came in Imran khans tenure. Imran khan facilitated Asia Bibi, a blasphemy victim to leave Pakistan and gave the courts full protection and freedom to give verdict. this time the fake military government and authoritarian military junta puppet govt. was unable to protect the courts. the chief justice himself is a bastard, who facilitated this military regime to steal elections on feb 8 and responsible for what is going on in Pakistan. ahmediya people follow a different prophet, but call themselves Muslims and refuse to consider themselves non Muslims. the basic point of Islam is that prophet Muhammad is the last prophet . they are in such small number that it didn't matter what they believe, but the religious zealots have made them a political issue. it is a fake secular party of Benazir bhutto, his father who pass a bill to make ahmediya non Muslims . the west funds and supports their party, because they portray themselves as liberal and secular. but in truth they have fucked the ahmediya and now they party members are converting hindus in sindh, have you ever heard bad behaviour to hindus from phuktunkhwa , punjab or balochistan province? why? it was always sindh, the west approved bhutto government installed in sindh for 20 years look at the condition of sindh?
stand with the people of pakistan in their quest for democracy , what problem do you have about our right to exist? this way a pakistani instead of listening to you would mark you as his enemy. military is the problem , pakistan isnt. stop your pakistan hate dude
@@riffataftab-t9k It's not about hating Pakistanis. Indian society was capable of Hindu-Muslim coexistence even during partition. A few leaders for their selfish goals played into the hands of the Britishers and split this ancient land. Since, their formation, both Pakistan and Bangladesh have seen never ending civil unrest in their societies. This didn't happen in India coz Indians accept who they are and who their ancestors were. Pakistanis on the other hand have been lied about Hindus then and are being lied about now. Pakistanis can never ever wash away the reality that under the cloak of Islam, they are all Indians with many still having Hindu caste as their last names.
Followers of Mirza ghulam Qadyani are declared non Muslim. All of them are requested to must read Book titled " Qadyani Mazhab ka Ilmai Mahsaba" authored by Prof Muhammad Ilyas Burni.
Jab Allah ke samney aap baitoge, kia jawab aap Allah ko deinge. CH4 V58 Judge with justice, Allah is watching over u. This is a commandment from Allah.
The Ahmadiyya Muslim Community are Muslims who believe in the Messiah, Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (peace be on him) (1835-1908) of Qadian. Mirza Ghulam Ahmad founded the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community in 1889 as a revival movement within Islam, emphasizing its essential teachings of peace, love, justice, and sanctity of life. Today, the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community is the world’s largest Islamic community under one Divinely appointed leader, His Holiness, Mirza Masroor Ahmad (may Allah be his Helper) (b. 1950). The Ahmadiyya Muslim Community spans over 200 nations with membership exceeding tens of millions. The Ahmadiyya Muslim Community is the only Islamic organization to endorse the separation of mosque and state. Despite facing bitter faith-based persecution in numerous Muslim majority nations, the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community continues to advocate for universal human rights for all religious and other persecuted minorities. It likewise invests heavily in women’s equality, education, and empowerment programs. Its members are among the most law-abiding, educated, and engaged Muslims in the world.
Ahmedis are not considered Muslims by Muslims and reason is that they 1. Do not believe that Muhammed is the last prophet of Allah 2. They have a strange criteria of Prophets and some philosophers are considered as prophets .3. They believe that certain Mirza Ghulam Ahmed who was born in Indian punjab was maseeh mahood , can say he was jesus resent and follow him 4. They believe that those who do not consider Mirza Ghulam Ahmed as prophet are not muslims . 5. It is said about them that they were encouraged by British Raj and were even supported in Africa when they ventured over there for spread, there are several strong proofs of this historically including a letter to queen victoria assuring his loyalty 6. They have gathered some support in Africa with western help and they do not emphasize jehad . 7. Nevertheless it is a fact that Mirza was first thought to be a just a learned comparative religion scholar , then it was rumoured that he is to be regarded as some mujadid and infact large body of people did not know their true inside beliefs till Poet Iqbal heard about their true teaching and claims from kashmir in late 1920s . Iqbal wrote a letter to Sir Ross Masood then incharge of Aligarh to be a sort of second guardian for his children as he was dying of renal failure , he wrote the reason that he does not want his Ahmedi relatives to raise them up . In 1974 they were studied by national assembly of pakistan committees and their so called Caliph a descendent of original Mirza Ghulam Ahmed was called to explain the faith . At the end both sunni and shias agreed that they cannot be classed as muslims and declared as minority with rights and quotas for minorities . But they did not accept this . When zia ul haq took over pakistan , he was a very devout and very brave , and it was reported that Ahmedis still propagate their religion by books and call their places of worship as mosques which causes social confusion , this was banned by changes in constitution . Thereafter their Caliph left pakistan and made headquarter in the UK , and many settled in Germany and USA but still large number remain . Many do not announce it and it is thought that Pakistan army has several in maj general rank . Rumour is that Musharaf's wife, and one recent army chief had relatives who were ahmedis . They are not under privileged community , and were encouraged by british , and this continued not only till 1974 , but Benazir and Nawaz government has not discriminated against them , PPP is their supporter and Nawaz too for some decades is appointing them to good posts . The muslim belief is that Muhammed should be more dear to them than even their own parents , so there is hatred for some one who believes in some thing else . In ordinary terms they are called Qadianis or Mirzais. They are more of a syncretic faith composed of christianity , philosophy and some cloak elements of islam . Their persecution is mostly propaganda , they are still an elite class sith firm support of USA and UK , whose interest they serve. Their belief system is not Muhammmedin which every muslim is . Despite street Hatred of Ahmedis in Pakistan , jinnah the founder of Pakistan did not remove either head of Kashmir Muslim league who was a Ahmedi and his foreign minister who was a Qadiani , reason perhaps was that Pakistan was to become a dominion and jinnah its governor general so he did not want to displease British whose darling was Ahmdedi group . Even today as PPP , PMLN , MQM and even PTI leaders have families based in UK when they are out of favour and so has Qadiani Caliph so Qadianis are still appointed to big posts perhaps thorough western munificence . Another interesting aspect is that while shias regard Ahmedis as non muslims but politically they have in the past cooperated with them and do so still . Regarding chief justice Isa ruling , the first one , it was without any basis and against law of pakistan so it has been reversed . Religious sentiment is so strong in Pakistan and so numerous that it has the power to displace not only chief justice but entire anglosaxon law system per force along with its thousand of lawyers and appoint muftis as Islamic empires were for 1200 years so pakistani judges avoid taking on the clergy now . In 1950s when riots broke out to declare Ahmedis non muslims , it was defence secretary Sikander Mirza a persian shia and direct descendent of Mir Jafar of Bengal ordered crackdown and founder of Jamaat Islami Maudodi was sentenced to death. When General Azam khan sent daily reports that so many mullahs were shot down this day , one day Bengali Khawaj Nazimuddin the Prime minister said that he cannot sleep , why are men of Allah being killed . Sikander Mirza phoned Azam khan and said he should use word Miscreants in the despatches not maulvis . Sikander Mirza became president of Pakistan and then removed and exiled , he was not allowed to be buried in Pakistan and is buried in Iran . So overall there is no sympathy in Pakistan for Ahmedis on streets but they are not persecuted . Wikipedia is not much right in calling Ahmedis a sect of Islam as they are more a sect of Christianity because of Maseeh Maood concept but in fact it is none of the two , it is a syncretic idea of a philosopher .
@@mshaikh4879 Ahmadi Muslims follow the same holy scriptures and teachings as other Muslims. The key difference is that Ahmadi Muslims believe that the Promised Messiah (also referred to as the Mahdi in some texts) of the latter days has arrived and he established the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community in 1889. It is a revivalist movement that has no new religious laws or teachings as it seeks to rejuvenate the true Islam as taught by the Holy Prophet Muhammad(sa). Other Muslims are still waiting for a reformer to come. As with all other Muslims, Ahmadi Muslims believe in the ‘Five Pillars of Islam’, and the ‘Six Articles of Faith’. They follow the same holy scripture (The Holy Qur’an), and accept that Islam is the final and perfect religion for mankind. They also believe in Prophet Muhammad(sa) as Khataman Nabiyyeen (the ‘Seal of the Prophets’) as he was the one who was the best model for mankind who brought God’s final and perfect message for mankind. Ahmadi Muslims also follow the Islamic sources of guidance and jurisprudence - which is sourced from three main authorities: The Holy Qur’an; The Sunnah (practice of the Holy Prophet(sa)); and The Hadith (sayings of the Holy Prophet(sa)) as given in the authentic books of Hadith such as Sahih Al Bukhari, Sahih Al Muslim, Sunan Abu Daud,Tirmidhi, Ibne Maja and Nisai Ahmadi Muslims also have regard for the interpretation of Islamic Laws (shariah) provided by the classical Islamic scholars. They generally follow the Hanafi school of thought, but all such matters are considered in light of the guidance provided by the Promised Messiah(as). Despite this abundance of guidance Muslims, like followers of all religions before them, were destined to drift away from the true teachings of Islam. This decay was to be followed by the revival of Islam through the messiah of the latter days as prophesied by the Holy Prophet(sa). So whilst all Muslims expect a messiah to appear it is only the question of the identity and acceptance of the messiah that distinguishes Ahmadi Muslims from all other Muslims. In some Hadith the messiah is referred to as ‘Jesus son of Mary’ and in others he is referred to as ‘Al-Mahdi’. It is interesting to note that there are also similar such prophecies in other religions that tell of a messiah who was to appear in the ‘latter days’; for example, Christians are awaiting the second advent of Jesus(as). Ahmadi Muslims believe that the messiah who was promised has come and that he was a single person who fulfilled all the prophecies relating to such a messiah not just in Islam but also in all religions. This was to be a unifying factor for all humanity and a means of uniting people under Islam, as it is the perfect religion for man. Ahmadi Muslims believe that the Promised Messiah was Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad(as) who was born in Qadian, India and under Divine guidance he established the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community in 1889. The community seeks to revive the same spirit and understanding of Islam that existed at the time of the Holy Prophet Muhammad(sa). Some other Muslims on the other hand believe that the Promised Messiah has not yet arrived and that when he does he will be the very same Jesus Son of Mary who was sent to the Jews over 2000 years earlier as the Messiah. They believe that he ascended bodily to heaven and that he will return to earth bodily as a sign signifying his second advent. They further believe that he will slaughter all the pigs on earth and break all crosses. According to them he will also force everyone to accept Islam. Ahmadi Muslims believe that such prophecies are metaphorical in nature. So, for example, the Messiah was not to force people to accept Islam, but rather the force of his arguments, reasoning and spiritual insight would demonstrate the truth of Islam and attract people to Islam. The Ahmadiyya Muslim Community is now established globally with branches in over 200 countries and its membership is in tens of millions. It is a peace loving community that believes in and acts upon its principle of ‘Love for All, Hatred for None’, a principle that reflects the essence of Islam.
Mirza Ghulam ahmed was false prophet , no muslim at the end of his life and was nurtured by British in india and in west africa . Had it been umayyad , ottoman or abassid times he would have been executed and his lot put to death . Ahmediya faith is syncretic philosophy of prominently Christianity , some stray elements of islam bound in pseudohistory . Muslims are also called Muhammedans as they are ummah of muhammed . Ahmedis are not ummah of muhammed they are as they say Ahmedis , slock of Mirza ghualm ahmed the resident of punjab in 1800s . Muslims believe that muhammed is the last prophet and guide
@@adarshwanderer5704 This persecution propaganda is false , mostly NGO type stuff . If there is one community which is still backward and somewhat discriminated as being poor and infact from Dravidian stock in largely Aryan area are convert sudras to Christianity . All this stuff about ahmedias persecution is false . They are by law not allowed to propagate to others not their own but same stands on paper for other faiths . Muslims already believe in Moses Jesus as prophet , they abhor idols of partners of God , they cannot tolerate that every day a new imposter declares prophethood and creates trouble . There are churches in every city of Pakistan , large Hindu communities live still and run good cloth business in capital . Muslims hate ahmedias and nothing can be done about it but they are not lynched on roads or injured as genuine Muslims are in India
bhai fasad is bat ka hai k ahmedia muslim nahi hain hindu christians or any other religion pe koi pabandi nahi hai wo apni ibadat karien apni kitab parhien apna religion folow karien mgr ahmedis murtid hain or islam ka naam istemal krte hain k wo muslims hain agr wo accept karien k un ka mzhab alug hai islam se unka koi taluq nahi hai apni ibadatgah ka naam masjid ki jaga kuch bhi rkh lain to koi masla nshi hai
modi ji the beloved emansipators of all minorities will evacute them from the evil perils of islamic extremists as he has done in for bangladeshi hindus.
All those countries and people supporting Qadiani religion should give Asylum to them in respective countries, as Israelites are asking such support by others for Palestinians. India must start giving Asylum being custodian of secularism, as Pakistan is an Islamic state very strict about respect of last Prophet Muhammad SalAllah Alehay wa Aalehee wasallam and Qadianis are not Muslims, want to be known as Muslims with their self-proclaimed prophet. They will bring lot of dollars for India as many western countries support them.
The head of Jamat Ahmadiya had fully supported Muhammad Ali Jinnah for the creation of Pakistan, whereas all other religious/political parties including jamiyat ulema e hind,Majlis Ahrar e Islam and Jamat e islami opposed him and were against the idea of creation of Pakistan. So,it would be better to send them and their successors to India where certainly they will learn a few lessons of religious freedom.
@@shamsherkhan17 Pakistan was destined for creation through Quaid e Azam Muhammad Ali Jinnah and didn't need any support from any secular/ Qadiani or religious groups/ parties. 75% of it's population believe in Spiritualism, loves the last Holy Prophet MUHAMMAD SalAllah Alehay wa Aalehee wasallam, which even the white men also knew. These are extremely peace loving people but love and respect of Holy Prophet SalAllah Alehay wa Aalehee wasallam is knitted in their veins and souls. All foreign funded religious / non-religious groups you mentioned are actually minorities, whose support or opposition actually was for their own survival. It's indeed on the same footings as India was created for Hindu majority, though apparently it propagates to be a secular state and RSS/ BJP etc represent political face of Hindu beliefs. That's actually cognitive biases both Gandhi and Jinnah had in their minds (true ideologies of states based upon spiritual aspects of both religios). Pakistanis accept with open arms all other minorities and harmony prevails there with all as such. Even Sikh brothers prefer Pakistan over India, however, don't propagate their religion as Islam being followers/ believers of Baba Guru Nanak R.A .... However, problem with Qadiani is same as I explained earlier. They are fully funded/ supported by West even India; have a so-called prophet for their religion also, but then want to be known as Muslims and spread their religion as Islam in Pakistan. That is weird. So no body stops them to get settled in other countries supporting them and spread their religion and rest assure, Pakistanis have no problem with them. They will face problems in Pakistan being an opposing force to true ideology of Pakistan.
Islam is neither an Abrahamic nor a monotheistic religion, it is a "one idol" religion created from a polytheistic religion of 360 idols. Muhammd came to know the monotheism of Judaism and wanted to emulate that system but was not ready to accept the Jewish God because of his Quraishi pride so he picked one god, Lah from the 360 gods of Quraishi religion and declared this Lah as Al Lah ( Al meaning the) and the only God, the other 359 gods are fake . He also declared this Lah and the God of Jews are same and he created a lot of new characters by plagiarising Biblical characters, adding new fake stories about them , denying certain stories about them widly believed by Jews . While the God of Jews ordered the Jews " Thou (The Jews) shall have no other gods" Muhammd and his God Al Lah ordered to Muslims that The World ( all people) should not have any other God. This is the fundamental difference between Judaism and Islam and this is the main reason why Judaism is not dangerous to world, but Islam is Christianity cannot be an abrahamic religion with its concept of Trinity & God descending into human. It has all the characteristics of a polytheist religion. Further the veneration of mother mary & hundreds of saints and the use of idols/photos make it a true polytheist religion. Judaism is the one and only Abrahamic & monotheist religion
Nice thesis. Please publish this in some religious journal make sure to back your thesis claims and formulation by showcasing actual scriptures from Torah or book of genesis ensure this theology is claimed and can be proven. If you are unable to produce the out-come backed by reference as mentioned in Torah or any Book of Genesis then I can ensure you this right now you can only take this theology in your grave along with your spiritual enlightment. Islam is the one and only true religion and Holy Book Quran and Islam shall remain true to its core and in their original form till the day of Judgement - without any modification to its core principles.
@@abdulrehmanbutt9525Islam is plagiarized religion. It's ripped off cocktail from Bible and Torah plus barbaric acts in the garb of religion. If everything is right in Quran then how come radicals refer to Quran and formed so many terrorist group worldwide? No other religion harmed others to extent like Islam did.
@@abdulrehmanbutt9525what he says is correct, there is a god Lah in prehistoric Saudi, it was most supreme amongst 360 gods and his name was adopted by the prophet (pbuh) (just research prehistoric Arabic gods) also Lah was represented by a stone given to humankind to pray, remembrance etc (all 360 gods had stones represented as given by them throughout Saudi Arabia,, but for Lah it was yes the kaaba 🕋& was considered most important pilgrim sight of all 360 God ), also God Lah was known by 99 different name , yes same 99 names of Allah as one sees on jahangirs mausoleum, ie rehman etc. Very few research this subject hence very few Muslims know throughout there lifetime , but by accident I got hold of this topics online, you need to search for it in that direction.
Pakistan is the Totalitarian Theocratic Extremist Fanatic Medieval State of Minds of mobs supported by constitution, state-machinery, statecraft, indoctrinated population..... Supreme Court of Pakistan, after delivering judgement, is reverting it's judgement being succumbed to fanatic mobs and without due process of law and Rule of law. Mockery of the legal system.
The use of the word “Islamophobe” is inappropriate in this context. I don’t think Islamophobia is real. Islamophobia means irrational fear of Islam. I don’t think people who question or criticize Islam are doing it on the basis of irrational fear.
@@sujoy1968 just look at those Islamophobes like Tommy Robinson who’s irrational fear of Islam led to the widespread unrest in Stockport recently. Why and how did that happen?
Read Pakistan's constituition 1)They have a same rights as other minority 2)Imposter (section 290) 3)Maulana Taqi usmani is a judje 4)Next bill likely to be in parliament, taking power away from parliament ,president & from Army(Means Khabbisi will be forever khabbisi )
We don't know that, ahmadiya say they are Muslim and so do shia and sunni and we don't know who is right. This all will look silly if at the end ahmadiya turn out to be real Muslim.
@@sumeettanwar1608 your whole mulaas got defeat legally now you want to win on the basis of man power like kufaar wants to defeat hazrat Muhammed saw but world know who wins same will happen in Pakistan inshallah
First Shiva is God we know all his progeny and there are people in india who believe that their god is one true god and no other god is true and do so on loudspeakers what is happening to them. And last dont go for logic bcz your whole community has been devoid of it
@@suryaprakash72771 ambedkar read only the translation ans comment on social customs and his logic of Buddhism is also ridiculous forget about hinduism 🤣🤣. He see religion through political lens as all abrahamic religions do. The man don't believe in the basic gour noble truth of buddha was called mahabodhi satva also he never thought told that every buddhist society have caste.
@@astee.007Lol. Is that why followers of Dr. Ambedkar have converted to Buddhism and still do? Even Hindus are unable to stop that when they realise their own religion is devoid of logic, humanity and social justice. In any case, the ethics and teachings of Buddhism is far superior to Hinduism in every aspect.
Minorities protection laws will be applicable when they register themselves as minorities as ahmedy religion. But they don't want to call them minority
@@tariqbandesha5562 Hindus and christian are fully protected by Pakistani law. Think the level of equality, we had a hundu Chief justice of Pakistan and had completed his service at 60 and retired with honour what else you imagine Each and every sector of gov public and private sector we have special minorities quota and also get jobs on merit too.
Ahmadiya community which came into existence was in British era, whose head ghulam ahmed was always close to the British. And had at the time supported British gov in their occupation. Ahmadiyas is not a Muslim group. It has nothing to do with Islam. They believe ghulam Ahmed is their prophet. Ahmadiya group is a cult with a leader who believes everything west does is correct. Their stance on LGBT is a shocker. It is in best interest to not associate cult and call them Muslim. Apart from this I still believe no one has the right to persecute, it is islam which allows equal rights to all its minorities. Unlike Hinduism which calls dalits as cockroaches. Ahmadiya can pray and practice their faith, they have failed to integrate with islam, they will continue to do so..
@user-yd3vw3fh6q hindu khatreme ...and bhatak ...better mind your business ...nothing has happened nothing will happen don't create trouble for yourself ...
@user-yd3vw3fh6q you are not ahemddi or anyone so be take care of your books ...the ones who divide society and PPL don't fucking preach asshole you are the scumbags of the world
Islamophobia is actually commonsense.
Islamophobia is shield to tackle any kind of criticism
That's antisemitism @@thelogicless9040
@@truthislogical Difference is Jews know how to be good citizens. Whereas Muslims do not
So is Hindutva phobia. Just ask those Hindus in the Dravidian south.
@@RAMESH-js9lc Islam per se needs some new enemies because old one have already become followers of islam...!!
Same people do not want others to follow their own religion in or belief in Pakistan but when they migrate to other countries ( mostly enter illegally) they demand right not only to follow their religion but imposed their own set of laws on others …wow what a hypocrites.
They want because you are ready to give 😂
Because the host countries suffer from utopian ideas like secularism, tolerance, liberalism.
@@user-jh9kj5hk8hwhat does that mean?
@@fanthonyit's white man burden ❤
@@user-jh9kj5hk8h ….otherwise they use force or sword…you ask your parents ,they can explain how they have converted.
Ahmediyas and shias played a key role in creation of Pakistan. Founder of Pakistan was too shia.
KarmA
Jinnah himself was shia
That's why one should never support any religious extremists.
@@BharatThatIsIndia we accept Shia but not Ahmadias, Ahmadias are far more away from Muslims, they will be able to get their rights if they accept themself non Muslim
@@m.talhaali572 And you wonder why Islamophobia exists? You will still say that Islam is a religion of peace and why religious terrorism is associated with Islam?
“What a joke we have made of our country”. Aptly summarised by Abbas Nasir.
Fackistan is a joke. Constitution considers Ahmadiyas as non Muslim. Sunnis consider Shite as renegades, Fundamentalists consider every other Muslim as infidels.
Islam Ahmadiyat ZINDABAD ❤❤❤❤
And they don't waste a single breath calling other Islamophobes on mere questioning of their religion
Now Ahmadis are only protected in India (In South Asia & Muslim World), most of them incl. There leaders without though travelled to Pakistan under Islamic banner, but today they are not considered humans, there tombs are regularly descreated, mosque damaged /broken, and not allowed to sacrifice animals and celebrate any Islamic festivals.
Name/title changed from
Mirza'iyyah /Qadiyyaniyah, later, to attract muslims, to
" Ehmaddiyah" a'ankhon me'n dhool jhonkna tha, Mirza ghulam Ehmad of Qadiy'an
an evil impostor of Prophethood, never enjoyed
any Vedic-Uppanishadian follower's sympathies, brits
& her colonies respected or
tolerated what ever was recommended by masters,
particularly, every breathing
anti-islam spicies. Promised
Messayah (temporarily)
encouraged by zionist colonials.
Wow! This is how a perfect banana republic looks like...👏👏
Gazab!!
Highly impressive..
Thank you so much. Take care.
my opinions on Islam and Muslims aside, but i do really understand their hatred for Ahmedayas, it literally goes against the fundamental rule of Islam, that there is no prophet after Prophet muhmad, but they found a new prophet, and they talk about weird stories like Jesus coming to Kashmir and settling there and a lot of other bulshit, it sounds more or less like mocking Islam than a part of islam
Largest Ahmadi community is, believe it or not, in Israel. Free to practice their faith anyway they choose.
what fake news are you yapping about here? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmadiyya_by_country#Maps The Ahmadiyya movement started in the Indian subcontinent dum dum. The largest populations are in India, Pak, Nigeria, Ghana and other african nations. Israel does not even come close.
@@wassuphomies263but true in spirit. Ahmadi would have more freedoms in Israel. Because Israel is a more civilised country.
@@wassuphomies263 But aljazeera says that India is unsafe for minorities ?Are you saying the great aljalzeera is lying?
@@narendra62 LMAOO!!! They do not give proper freedom to Palestinian Christians. They actively try to sterilize ethiopian JEWS because they want to keep the image of israel as "white". You are brainwashed as hell. Please educate yourself.
Israel is an apartheid state, it is not civilized.
@@wassuphomies263you use wikipedia to prove your point. Wow.
We respect minorities but we won't allow any counterfeit of our religion
Hahaa
God Almighty is the ultimate judge. The verdict of God Almighty is final as He said "There is no compulsion in Religion". This domain of God Almighty should not be breached.
A good report! 👍
Pakistan keeps making the wrong decisions. It is sealing its aweful fait on every front. What a sad ending to Jinnah's dream
There is no such thing as phobia
It should be islamofright
what is the status of the state in the world, everyone knows
ALHAMDULILA RUB UL AALMIN. Better come late than never
How are Ahmadiyyas a 'religious minority' in Pakistan? Are Shaktas a religious minority in India? Are Karaite Jews a religious minority in Israel? Are Protestants a religious minority in Ireland? Call it for what it is, and stop labelling anyone and everyone who questions the peacefulness of self-proclaimed believers as 'Islamophobic'. The print isn't living up to the Shekhar Gupta name. Also, 'equal citizenship' in Pakistan never existed. Forget about Ahmadiyyas, they didn't even consider Sunni Bengalis as equals. Have you forgotten Yahya Khan? Or perhaps you haven't heard of him. The rabbit hole is so deep that we don't even talk about non muslims in Pakistan. They can't even accept muslims anymore. And you have the gall to call every commonsensical person an islamophobe.
Indian RSS, SS, BJP, shuddhi movement, Hindu vishwa parishad & Vande mataram lashkar,
A few judges succumbed to pressure from street thugs. They have thrown the whole country under the bus.There is something called 'occupational hazard'.You have to stand up to pressure and do the right thing.Longterm effects,just you wait and see.See what happens to your grandchildren.
The Land of "Unadulterated"....
In pakistan if ahammadiyas are disrespected then what will they do to idolators. Idolatry is not sin.
idoltors r mushrik and ahmedis r murtid mushrik or kafir ki alug ibadatgahien alug books hain mgr ye murtid hain in ko ijazat nahi milegi ye iqrar karien ye non muslims hain phir jo chahe ibadat karien hm nahi rokainge islam koi banana hindu mzhb nahi hai jiska jisko pujne ko dil chahe puje yahan srf aik khuda or rasool hai hindu or sikh ki ibadat gahien khuli hain wo khuli apni puja karien bhale butparasti karien mgr murtid ki koi jaga nahi hoti
Ahmedis are not Muslims. People in non-Muslim countries think they are Muslims. The Ahmedis’ beliefs go against the fundamental Muslim beliefs which is why they have been declared non-Muslim in Pakistan, an Islamic State.
After listening to the arguments of Islamic scholars the Supreme Court of Pakistan recognized its mistake and expunged the objectionable parts.
This is probably the first time in Pakistan’s history that the Supreme Court invited Islamic scholars to present their case on a religious issue.
Pakistanis consider Ahmedis as agents of the enemies of Islam who are committed to confusing the people about the fundamental teachings of Islam. The Supreme Court of Pakistan simply applied the law in Pakistan which prohibits Ahmedis from misleading people.
Hahaa Ahmadiya was Muslim in India cause they helped you for creating Pakistan, now they r non muslim?? Selfish islam 😂😂
My friend who is an expert on Hanafi jurisprudence and is a Syed as well days that Shias. Ahmadis and Barelvis are not Muslim. However he respects them and says like Christians , Shias , Ahmadis and Barelvis should be allowed to pray in their own churches
Shame on ur friend and he is Brahmin of muslims.
Silly Salafi
@@Murali1974 he is hanafi , he says it's different from Salafi. I have worked in so many middle eastern countries, they don't consider Shias as muslims
@@Adi-ev1uh two sides of the same coin. A lot of Shia scholars do not consider Sunni’s to be Muslim either.
@@Murali1974 that's not true; they reject Sunni dogma but don't reject membership of the religion
Nonsense.Verysad.Pressure from arm-twisting quarters.Compromise with Maulana Diesel.
You declare them as “Kafirs” yet they are not allowed to practice their conviction? It is sad Pakistan is heading in this direction. What kind of Islam is this? Isn’t it clear that “There is no compulsion in religion?”
I don't think why you are not raising your voices when Muslims are persecuted in Indian?
Religious freedom was never there in Pakistan...
they r non muslims , minority
Pakistan is somewhere in between Renaissance France and 1838 Missouri.
Pakistan is the Totalitarian Theocratic Extremist Fanatic Medieval State of Minds of mobs supported by constitution, state-machinery, statecraft, indoctrinated population.
The concept of Renaissance is very foreign to Islm as ideology.
Man is known by the company he keeps
5)Khabbisi is not a sect
Its a different religion
The Print can have a separate channel called "The Print - P" to cover issues pertaining to Pakistan.
Will make it easy for viewers.
islam and peace is impossible
Just like Hindutva politics and peace is impossible
How is it Islamophobia if the aggressor is muslim and victim is muslim .. don't try to be liberal and politically correct .. try to show real news and say islam and muslim
Correction. The victim does not belong to Islam.
@@suryaprakash72771 ask victim what they call themselves
@@abhijitughade9489they call themselves Ahmadiya and that puts them right outside of Islam
They really care about their people and majority. In Pakistan 😊 in India majority is minority 😂 haha 🤣
Ahmadis non muslims , agents of EU , we muslims knows better our limits of religion ISLAM very well, Apex court rectified as per ISLAM
Are Shias Muslims ? Do you believe that a person converting to Islam reads a right shada when he converts to Shia Islam ?
@@adarshwanderer5704yes shias r muslims we r against each ither on some issue but fundamentals of islam r same and on the issuues of ahmedias we r united
@@mehmoodahmed893 Common man. Ahmadis too follow the same book, the same prophet. They just think that Mehedi has already come. They just have different interpretations of Quran. Even they follow the same 5 pillars of Islam. Haj, Namaz, Salah, Roza, Zakat.
Ahmaddiya leaders were at the forefront for demanding a separate Pakistan for themselves and their Muslim brothers. Today their descendants will be cursing them. In another 50 yrs, every Pakistani will understand that partition was their ancestors' biggest mistake.
Dude Pakistan suffer from many problems.
its people now officially hate its army, the army has gone bonkers right now. Pakistan has a very long journey to evolve, we do not have 75 years of evolution of democracy as happened in India. it is true.
we exist, because there is Pakistan. Pakistan is everything, despite sad verdicts like these, for us there is still hope.
these things happen when there is no democracy.
a similar case came in Imran khans tenure. Imran khan facilitated Asia Bibi, a blasphemy victim to leave Pakistan and gave the courts full protection and freedom to give verdict.
this time the fake military government and authoritarian military junta puppet govt. was unable to protect the courts.
the chief justice himself is a bastard, who facilitated this military regime to steal elections on feb 8 and responsible for what is going on in Pakistan.
ahmediya people follow a different prophet, but call themselves Muslims and refuse to consider themselves non Muslims.
the basic point of Islam is that prophet Muhammad is the last prophet .
they are in such small number that it didn't matter what they believe, but the religious zealots have made them a political issue.
it is a fake secular party of Benazir bhutto, his father who pass a bill to make ahmediya non Muslims .
the west funds and supports their party, because they portray themselves as liberal and secular.
but in truth they have fucked the ahmediya and now they party members are converting hindus in sindh,
have you ever heard bad behaviour to hindus from phuktunkhwa , punjab or balochistan province?
why? it was always sindh, the west approved bhutto government installed in sindh for 20 years look at the condition of sindh?
stand with the people of pakistan in their quest for democracy ,
what problem do you have about our right to exist? this way a pakistani instead of listening to you would mark you as his enemy. military is the problem , pakistan isnt. stop your pakistan hate dude
@@riffataftab-t9k It's not about hating Pakistanis. Indian society was capable of Hindu-Muslim coexistence even during partition. A few leaders for their selfish goals played into the hands of the Britishers and split this ancient land.
Since, their formation, both Pakistan and Bangladesh have seen never ending civil unrest in their societies. This didn't happen in India coz Indians accept who they are and who their ancestors were.
Pakistanis on the other hand have been lied about Hindus then and are being lied about now. Pakistanis can never ever wash away the reality that under the cloak of Islam, they are all Indians with many still having Hindu caste as their last names.
Followers of Mirza ghulam Qadyani are declared non Muslim.
All of them are requested to must read Book titled " Qadyani Mazhab ka Ilmai Mahsaba" authored by Prof Muhammad Ilyas Burni.
You are requested to read "kashti e Nooh "written by Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmed to properly understand his faith and that of his followers.
Indeed they are outside of Islam. The only true Messiah is Jesus, the son of Mary.
Jab Allah ke samney aap baitoge, kia jawab aap Allah ko deinge. CH4 V58
Judge with justice, Allah is watching over u. This is a commandment from Allah.
Rational things logic and human rights and democracy can digest by desert 🏜️ cult.??
The Ahmadiyya Muslim Community are Muslims who believe in the Messiah, Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (peace be on him) (1835-1908) of Qadian. Mirza Ghulam Ahmad founded the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community in 1889 as a revival movement within Islam, emphasizing its essential teachings of peace, love, justice, and sanctity of life. Today, the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community is the world’s largest Islamic community under one Divinely appointed leader, His Holiness, Mirza Masroor Ahmad (may Allah be his Helper) (b. 1950). The Ahmadiyya Muslim Community spans over 200 nations with membership exceeding tens of millions.
The Ahmadiyya Muslim Community is the only Islamic organization to endorse the separation of mosque and state. Despite facing bitter faith-based persecution in numerous Muslim majority nations, the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community continues to advocate for universal human rights for all religious and other persecuted minorities. It likewise invests heavily in women’s equality, education, and empowerment programs. Its members are among the most law-abiding, educated, and engaged Muslims in the world.
Ahmedis are not considered Muslims by Muslims and reason is that they 1. Do not believe that Muhammed is the last prophet of Allah 2. They have a strange criteria of Prophets and some philosophers are considered as prophets .3. They believe that certain Mirza Ghulam Ahmed who was born in Indian punjab was maseeh mahood , can say he was jesus resent and follow him 4. They believe that those who do not consider Mirza Ghulam Ahmed as prophet are not muslims . 5. It is said about them that they were encouraged by British Raj and were even supported in Africa when they ventured over there for spread, there are several strong proofs of this historically including a letter to queen victoria assuring his loyalty 6. They have gathered some support in Africa with western help and they do not emphasize jehad . 7. Nevertheless it is a fact that Mirza was first thought to be a just a learned comparative religion scholar , then it was rumoured that he is to be regarded as some mujadid and infact large body of people did not know their true inside beliefs till Poet Iqbal heard about their true teaching and claims from kashmir in late 1920s . Iqbal wrote a letter to Sir Ross Masood then incharge of Aligarh to be a sort of second guardian for his children as he was dying of renal failure , he wrote the reason that he does not want his Ahmedi relatives to raise them up .
In 1974 they were studied by national assembly of pakistan committees and their so called Caliph a descendent of original Mirza Ghulam Ahmed was called to explain the faith . At the end both sunni and shias agreed that they cannot be classed as muslims and declared as minority with rights and quotas for minorities . But they did not accept this . When zia ul haq took over pakistan , he was a very devout and very brave , and it was reported that Ahmedis still propagate their religion by books and call their places of worship as mosques which causes social confusion , this was banned by changes in constitution . Thereafter their Caliph left pakistan and made headquarter in the UK , and many settled in Germany and USA but still large number remain . Many do not announce it and it is thought that Pakistan army has several in maj general rank . Rumour is that Musharaf's wife, and one recent army chief had relatives who were ahmedis .
They are not under privileged community , and were encouraged by british , and this continued not only till 1974 , but Benazir and Nawaz government has not discriminated against them , PPP is their supporter and Nawaz too for some decades is appointing them to good posts . The muslim belief is that Muhammed should be more dear to them than even their own parents , so there is hatred for some one who believes in some thing else .
In ordinary terms they are called Qadianis or Mirzais. They are more of a syncretic faith composed of christianity , philosophy and some cloak elements of islam . Their persecution is mostly propaganda , they are still an elite class sith firm support of USA and UK , whose interest they serve. Their belief system is not Muhammmedin which every muslim is .
Despite street Hatred of Ahmedis in Pakistan , jinnah the founder of Pakistan did not remove either head of Kashmir Muslim league who was a Ahmedi and his foreign minister who was a Qadiani , reason perhaps was that Pakistan was to become a dominion and jinnah its governor general so he did not want to displease British whose darling was Ahmdedi group . Even today as PPP , PMLN , MQM and even PTI leaders have families based in UK when they are out of favour and so has Qadiani Caliph so Qadianis are still appointed to big posts perhaps thorough western munificence . Another interesting aspect is that while shias regard Ahmedis as non muslims but politically they have in the past cooperated with them and do so still .
Regarding chief justice Isa ruling , the first one , it was without any basis and against law of pakistan so it has been reversed . Religious sentiment is so strong in Pakistan and so numerous that it has the power to displace not only chief justice but entire anglosaxon law system per force along with its thousand of lawyers and appoint muftis as Islamic empires were for 1200 years so pakistani judges avoid taking on the clergy now . In 1950s when riots broke out to declare Ahmedis non muslims , it was defence secretary Sikander Mirza a persian shia and direct descendent of Mir Jafar of Bengal ordered crackdown and founder of Jamaat Islami Maudodi was sentenced to death. When General Azam khan sent daily reports that so many mullahs were shot down this day , one day Bengali Khawaj Nazimuddin the Prime minister said that he cannot sleep , why are men of Allah being killed . Sikander Mirza phoned Azam khan and said he should use word Miscreants in the despatches not maulvis . Sikander Mirza became president of Pakistan and then removed and exiled , he was not allowed to be buried in Pakistan and is buried in Iran .
So overall there is no sympathy in Pakistan for Ahmedis on streets but they are not persecuted . Wikipedia is not much right in calling Ahmedis a sect of Islam as they are more a sect of Christianity because of Maseeh Maood concept but in fact it is none of the two , it is a syncretic idea of a philosopher .
@@mshaikh4879 Ahmadi Muslims follow the same holy scriptures and teachings as other Muslims. The key difference is that Ahmadi Muslims believe that the Promised Messiah (also referred to as the Mahdi in some texts) of the latter days has arrived and he established the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community in 1889. It is a revivalist movement that has no new religious laws or teachings as it seeks to rejuvenate the true Islam as taught by the Holy Prophet Muhammad(sa). Other Muslims are still waiting for a reformer to come.
As with all other Muslims, Ahmadi Muslims believe in the ‘Five Pillars of Islam’, and the ‘Six Articles of Faith’. They follow the same holy scripture (The Holy Qur’an), and accept that Islam is the final and perfect religion for mankind. They also believe in Prophet Muhammad(sa) as Khataman Nabiyyeen (the ‘Seal of the Prophets’) as he was the one who was the best model for mankind who brought God’s final and perfect message for mankind.
Ahmadi Muslims also follow the Islamic sources of guidance and jurisprudence - which is sourced from three main authorities:
The Holy Qur’an;
The Sunnah (practice of the Holy Prophet(sa)); and
The Hadith (sayings of the Holy Prophet(sa)) as given in the authentic books of Hadith such as Sahih Al Bukhari, Sahih Al Muslim, Sunan Abu Daud,Tirmidhi, Ibne Maja and Nisai
Ahmadi Muslims also have regard for the interpretation of Islamic Laws (shariah) provided by the classical Islamic scholars. They generally follow the Hanafi school of thought, but all such matters are considered in light of the guidance provided by the Promised Messiah(as).
Despite this abundance of guidance Muslims, like followers of all religions before them, were destined to drift away from the true teachings of Islam. This decay was to be followed by the revival of Islam through the messiah of the latter days as prophesied by the Holy Prophet(sa). So whilst all Muslims expect a messiah to appear it is only the question of the identity and acceptance of the messiah that distinguishes Ahmadi Muslims from all other Muslims.
In some Hadith the messiah is referred to as ‘Jesus son of Mary’ and in others he is referred to as ‘Al-Mahdi’.
It is interesting to note that there are also similar such prophecies in other religions that tell of a messiah who was to appear in the ‘latter days’; for example, Christians are awaiting the second advent of Jesus(as).
Ahmadi Muslims believe that the messiah who was promised has come and that he was a single person who fulfilled all the prophecies relating to such a messiah not just in Islam but also in all religions. This was to be a unifying factor for all humanity and a means of uniting people under Islam, as it is the perfect religion for man.
Ahmadi Muslims believe that the Promised Messiah was Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad(as) who was born in Qadian, India and under Divine guidance he established the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community in 1889. The community seeks to revive the same spirit and understanding of Islam that existed at the time of the Holy Prophet Muhammad(sa).
Some other Muslims on the other hand believe that the Promised Messiah has not yet arrived and that when he does he will be the very same Jesus Son of Mary who was sent to the Jews over 2000 years earlier as the Messiah. They believe that he ascended bodily to heaven and that he will return to earth bodily as a sign signifying his second advent. They further believe that he will slaughter all the pigs on earth and break all crosses. According to them he will also force everyone to accept Islam.
Ahmadi Muslims believe that such prophecies are metaphorical in nature. So, for example, the Messiah was not to force people to accept Islam, but rather the force of his arguments, reasoning and spiritual insight would demonstrate the truth of Islam and attract people to Islam.
The Ahmadiyya Muslim Community is now established globally with branches in over 200 countries and its membership is in tens of millions. It is a peace loving community that believes in and acts upon its principle of ‘Love for All, Hatred for None’, a principle that reflects the essence of Islam.
Mirza Ghulam ahmed was false prophet , no muslim at the end of his life and was nurtured by British in india and in west africa . Had it been umayyad , ottoman or abassid times he would have been executed and his lot put to death . Ahmediya faith is syncretic philosophy of prominently Christianity , some stray elements of islam bound in pseudohistory . Muslims are also called Muhammedans as they are ummah of muhammed . Ahmedis are not ummah of muhammed they are as they say Ahmedis , slock of Mirza ghualm ahmed the resident of punjab in 1800s . Muslims believe that muhammed is the last prophet and guide
Wow! Such a long lecture just to prove that Ahmadis are not persecuted in Pakistan ? Which religious minority is not persecuted in Pakistan ?
@@adarshwanderer5704 This persecution propaganda is false , mostly NGO type stuff . If there is one community which is still backward and somewhat discriminated as being poor and infact from Dravidian stock in largely Aryan area are convert sudras to Christianity . All this stuff about ahmedias persecution is false . They are by law not allowed to propagate to others not their own but same stands on paper for other faiths . Muslims already believe in Moses Jesus as prophet , they abhor idols of partners of God , they cannot tolerate that every day a new imposter declares prophethood and creates trouble . There are churches in every city of Pakistan , large Hindu communities live still and run good cloth business in capital . Muslims hate ahmedias and nothing can be done about it but they are not lynched on roads or injured as genuine Muslims are in India
bhai fasad is bat ka hai k ahmedia muslim nahi hain hindu christians or any other religion pe koi pabandi nahi hai wo apni ibadat karien apni kitab parhien apna religion folow karien mgr ahmedis murtid hain or islam ka naam istemal krte hain k wo muslims hain agr wo accept karien k un ka mzhab alug hai islam se unka koi taluq nahi hai apni ibadatgah ka naam masjid ki jaga kuch bhi rkh lain to koi masla nshi hai
Never try to become politically correct against invasive desert species.
Exactly true with the Aryan invaders of the Indian subcontinent
Ahmadi are non Muslim simple question is ahmadi Muslim kb se hogae
modi ji the beloved emansipators of all minorities will evacute them from the evil perils of islamic extremists as he has done in for bangladeshi hindus.
allahapbehwnkokamyabhoinsallah❤🤯👍✌🏽🤲🤲🤲💞💯💯💯🫀
All those countries and people supporting Qadiani religion should give Asylum to them in respective countries, as Israelites are asking such support by others for Palestinians. India must start giving Asylum being custodian of secularism, as Pakistan is an Islamic state very strict about respect of last Prophet Muhammad SalAllah Alehay wa Aalehee wasallam and Qadianis are not Muslims, want to be known as Muslims with their self-proclaimed prophet. They will bring lot of dollars for India as many western countries support them.
The head of Jamat Ahmadiya had fully supported Muhammad Ali Jinnah for the creation of Pakistan, whereas all other religious/political parties including jamiyat ulema e hind,Majlis Ahrar e Islam and Jamat e islami opposed him and were against the idea of creation of Pakistan. So,it would be better to send them and their successors to India where certainly they will learn a few lessons of religious freedom.
@@shamsherkhan17 Pakistan was destined for creation through Quaid e Azam Muhammad Ali Jinnah and didn't need any support from any secular/ Qadiani or religious groups/ parties. 75% of it's population believe in Spiritualism, loves the last Holy Prophet MUHAMMAD SalAllah Alehay wa Aalehee wasallam, which even the white men also knew. These are extremely peace loving people but love and respect of Holy Prophet SalAllah Alehay wa Aalehee wasallam is knitted in their veins and souls. All foreign funded religious / non-religious groups you mentioned are actually minorities, whose support or opposition actually was for their own survival. It's indeed on the same footings as India was created for Hindu majority, though apparently it propagates to be a secular state and RSS/ BJP etc represent political face of Hindu beliefs. That's actually cognitive biases both Gandhi and Jinnah had in their minds (true ideologies of states based upon spiritual aspects of both religios). Pakistanis accept with open arms all other minorities and harmony prevails there with all as such. Even Sikh brothers prefer Pakistan over India, however, don't propagate their religion as Islam being followers/ believers of Baba Guru Nanak R.A .... However, problem with Qadiani is same as I explained earlier. They are fully funded/ supported by West even India; have a so-called prophet for their religion also, but then want to be known as Muslims and spread their religion as Islam in Pakistan. That is weird. So no body stops them to get settled in other countries supporting them and spread their religion and rest assure, Pakistanis have no problem with them. They will face problems in Pakistan being an opposing force to true ideology of Pakistan.
Islam is neither an Abrahamic nor a monotheistic religion, it is a "one idol" religion created from a polytheistic religion of 360 idols. Muhammd came to know the monotheism of Judaism and wanted to emulate that system but was not ready to accept the Jewish God because of his Quraishi pride so he picked one god, Lah from the 360 gods of Quraishi religion and declared this Lah as Al Lah ( Al meaning the) and the only God, the other 359 gods are fake . He also declared this Lah and the God of Jews are same and he created a lot of new characters by plagiarising Biblical characters, adding new fake stories about them , denying certain stories about them widly believed by Jews .
While the God of Jews ordered the Jews " Thou (The Jews) shall have no other gods" Muhammd and his God Al Lah ordered to Muslims that The World ( all people) should not have any other God. This is the fundamental difference between Judaism and Islam and this is the main reason why Judaism is not dangerous to world, but Islam is
Christianity cannot be an abrahamic religion with its concept of Trinity & God descending into human. It has all the characteristics of a polytheist religion. Further the veneration of mother mary & hundreds of saints and the use of idols/photos make it a true polytheist religion.
Judaism is the one and only Abrahamic & monotheist religion
Nice thesis. Please publish this in some religious journal make sure to back your thesis claims and formulation by showcasing actual scriptures from Torah or book of genesis ensure this theology is claimed and can be proven. If you are unable to produce the out-come backed by reference as mentioned in Torah or any Book of Genesis then I can ensure you this right now you can only take this theology in your grave along with your spiritual enlightment.
Islam is the one and only true religion and Holy Book Quran and Islam shall remain true to its core and in their original form till the day of Judgement - without any modification to its core principles.
@@abdulrehmanbutt9525Islam is plagiarized religion. It's ripped off cocktail from Bible and Torah plus barbaric acts in the garb of religion.
If everything is right in Quran then how come radicals refer to Quran and formed so many terrorist group worldwide? No other religion harmed others to extent like Islam did.
Hahahahahaha
Not much to choose between islam, Christianity and Judaism.
@@abdulrehmanbutt9525what he says is correct, there is a god Lah in prehistoric Saudi, it was most supreme amongst 360 gods and his name was adopted by the prophet (pbuh) (just research prehistoric Arabic gods) also Lah was represented by a stone given to humankind to pray, remembrance etc (all 360 gods had stones represented as given by them throughout Saudi Arabia,, but for Lah it was yes the kaaba 🕋& was considered most important pilgrim sight of all 360 God ), also God Lah was known by 99 different name , yes same 99 names of Allah as one sees on jahangirs mausoleum, ie rehman etc. Very few research this subject hence very few Muslims know throughout there lifetime , but by accident I got hold of this topics online, you need to search for it in that direction.
Why is this channel obsessed with Paakisthaan?
Can anyone elaborate?
Because Pakistani news channel don't talk about suffering of minorities, at least someone is talking about this
Pakistan is the Totalitarian Theocratic Extremist Fanatic Medieval State of Minds of mobs supported by constitution, state-machinery, statecraft, indoctrinated population.....
Supreme Court of Pakistan, after delivering judgement, is reverting it's judgement being succumbed to fanatic mobs and without due process of law and Rule of law.
Mockery of the legal system.
The use of the word “Islamophobe” is inappropriate in this context. I don’t think Islamophobia is real. Islamophobia means irrational fear of Islam. I don’t think people who question or criticize Islam are doing it on the basis of irrational fear.
Many actually do.
@@suryaprakash72771 please provide some examples or facts for your claims.
@@sujoy1968 just look at those Islamophobes like Tommy Robinson who’s irrational fear of Islam led to the widespread unrest in Stockport recently. Why and how did that happen?
@@sujoy1968just look at the irrational fear of Tommy Robinson and the EDL towards the religion.
what about you say in indian muslims and daily attacks on all sectors of muslims including shia and other sectors
Read Pakistan's constituition
1)They have a same rights as other minority
2)Imposter (section 290)
3)Maulana Taqi usmani is a judje
4)Next bill likely to be in parliament, taking power away from parliament ,president & from Army(Means Khabbisi will be forever khabbisi )
Pak is an Islamic Republic. Ahmediya isn't Islam so why surprised?
We don't know that, ahmadiya say they are Muslim and so do shia and sunni and we don't know who is right.
This all will look silly if at the end ahmadiya turn out to be real Muslim.
Sad our netas backstabbed hindus. Atleast you have what you want and are happy with it 👍
@@sumeettanwar1608 your whole mulaas got defeat legally now you want to win on the basis of man power like kufaar wants to defeat hazrat Muhammed saw but world know who wins same will happen in Pakistan inshallah
rigth : no religious liberty in an islamic republic.
@@zakirnaik6905 world also used to think earth is flat and sun revolve around it so world knowing is not a gotcha you think it is.
Gsamshknidoinshpdaivnaallii
The Ahmediyas and bangli muslims were the main culprit of separate india and they got their karma back 197o Bangladesh genocide and ahmedia .
Talk less first let ahmedis problem solve then talk about other problems
Don't try to mix up
Well done Supreme Court
What happens if someone suddenly claims that he is Shiva or a descendant of him
First Shiva is God we know all his progeny and there are people in india who believe that their god is one true god and no other god is true and do so on loudspeakers what is happening to them. And last dont go for logic bcz your whole community has been devoid of it
Nothing
@@astee.007Lol. Don’t you know logic is anathema to Hinduism? Try reading what Dr. Ambedkar has written on this subject.
@@suryaprakash72771 ambedkar read only the translation ans comment on social customs and his logic of Buddhism is also ridiculous forget about hinduism 🤣🤣. He see religion through political lens as all abrahamic religions do. The man don't believe in the basic gour noble truth of buddha was called mahabodhi satva also he never thought told that every buddhist society have caste.
@@astee.007Lol. Is that why followers of Dr. Ambedkar have converted to Buddhism and still do? Even Hindus are unable to stop that when they realise their own religion is devoid of logic, humanity and social justice. In any case, the ethics and teachings of Buddhism is far superior to Hinduism in every aspect.
Minorities protection laws will be applicable when they register themselves as minorities as ahmedy religion.
But they don't want to call them minority
And what about Christians, Hindus don't bring illogical statements . It's about humanity,who the hell are we to judge someone
@@tariqbandesha5562 Hindus and christian are fully protected by Pakistani law.
Think the level of equality, we had a hundu Chief justice of Pakistan and had completed his service at 60 and retired with honour what else you imagine
Each and every sector of gov public and private sector we have special minorities quota and also get jobs on merit too.
A good lesson for India to take care majority..
Here majority hindu are facing prosecution by all political parties and all organs of government..
Nice sanghi joke 😂😂😂
Did you learn that nonsense from that baldy Ayogi who’s dreaming of merging Pakistan with India?
Ahmadiya community which came into existence was in British era, whose head ghulam ahmed was always close to the British. And had at the time supported British gov in their occupation. Ahmadiyas is not a Muslim group. It has nothing to do with Islam. They believe ghulam Ahmed is their prophet. Ahmadiya group is a cult with a leader who believes everything west does is correct. Their stance on LGBT is a shocker. It is in best interest to not associate cult and call them Muslim.
Apart from this I still believe no one has the right to persecute, it is islam which allows equal rights to all its minorities. Unlike Hinduism which calls dalits as cockroaches. Ahmadiya can pray and practice their faith, they have failed to integrate with islam, they will continue to do so..
I agree. Muslims are not Hindu. Ahmediyas are Muslim. They created Pakistan for you. Be grateful to them
Hinduism does not call dali ts cockroaches.
@@agsitaraman3270 Mahabharata 12.165.56. you should those books you have at home.
Pakistan has a bright future indeed. 😂
These ahemdediya anyone like that are just like some stains on white flag of islam and hardly matters
@user-yd3vw3fh6q hindu khatreme ...and bhatak ...better mind your business ...nothing has happened nothing will happen don't create trouble for yourself ...
@user-yd3vw3fh6q you are not ahemddi or anyone so be take care of your books ...the ones who divide society and PPL don't fucking preach asshole you are the scumbags of the world
You people hardly matter . Uncivilised ape following a death cult
How they live is none of your business.
So peaceful