History of high jump- The Fosbury revolution (La storia del salto in alto- La rivoluzione fosbury)
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- Evolution of high jump after and before the fosbury technique.
L'evoluzione del salto in alto dopo e prima la tecnica fosbury.
Video edited by: Cristina A., Paolo B., Daniele D., Veronica M., Elena S.
Dick Fosbury was a teammate of mine at Medford High School. The coaches would prohibit him from experimenting with his technique because they were afraid he would break his neck landing in the sawdust. We then got foam rubber scraps which were held in open mesh netting. Better than sawdust but our spikes kept getting tangled with the netting. The technological breakthrough was an inflatable Port A Pit for pole vault and high jump. I believe we got a used one from Coach Bowerman at the University of Oregon. After that the only things that got broken were world records by Dick Fosbury. I recommend a wonderful book: "The Wizard of Foz" by Bob Welch and Dick Fosbury.
It wasn’t inflatable.
Google Debbie Brill.
Campionato italiano di salto in alto.... Tanti anni fa. Ero fra i primi 10 d'Italia :) Che bei tempi :) - Un pomeriggio, a Roma, ebbi l'onore di allenarmi contemporaneamente a Dwight Stones: un mito per stile, eleganza ed "antipatia :)))))))"
In passato i saltatori dovevano farsi un'assicurazione sulla vita perchè ad ogni salto non ricadevano sul morbido materassone come adesso ma sulla terra o la sabbia, incredibile!!! Bellissimo documentario sulla storia e l'evoluzione del salto in alto, complimenti agli autori.
Todo mundo saltava dopado com drogas proibidas hoje.
يجب أن يبقى الطريقتان في القفز العلوي في ألعاب القوى.
الطريقة القديمة أقرب للواقع.
chi ha caricato questo video ha sicuramente buon gusto per la musica e per lo sport. COMPLIMENTI! ;)
il genere musicale è instrumental core o dubchestral
In the past, jumpers had to take out life insurance because at every jump they didn't fall on the soft mattress like now but on earth or sand, unbelievable !!! Beautiful documentary on the history and evolution of high jump, congratulations to the authors.
Fosbury was groundbreaking, but even those jumpers prior to Fosbury were awesome! Wow! The height of the jumps with forward jumping skills...too bad they didn't get a mat to land on too. I remember having a hollowed metal bar in school doing the high jump with dents in the middle of the bar..ouch...kinda was afraid to land on it....of course shortly there afterwards...after my stint, they got a heavy plastic one...go figure.
Thank you; I never saw high jumping as such an art form. When I saw the 1964 Olympics I was in the 8th grade. What a fabulous Olympics it was.
Fosbury completely revolutionised the sport. Is there anyone else who changed a sport in such a big way?
Wilt chamberlain
Great shout! Absolute titan in the history of basketball
Jan boklöv
and Kareem.
Am I the only one who wants to know what kind of jumps they made before the Fosbury Flop?
Chris Pardee of Harvard University was the first I saw using the Fosbury technique in 1966 and 1967. He was jumping 6' 10" with Fosbury and 7' 0" with the Eastern roll.
I ensure you there were a lot of germans doing it before ww2 especially women!One was my mother!
Beautiful video. Thank you for sharing
Imagine jumping a wall with the Fosbury technique.
not funny
awesome video......thanks for posting.
History never ends . There will be new techniques which even replace or at the very least will be used by some athletes instead of the Fosbury Flop in near future . And maybe some old techniques which will be altered to lesser or greater degrees .
The Fosbury at the time of the sandbox, they would have directly broken the vertebrae
Exactly!. It only became viable once they created a deep blow up cushion to land on -on their backs.
don't care
Bellissimo questo video se lo merita un vero like
Se potessi mettere 1000 like lo farei subito, é un video splendido, complimenti.
Video meraviglioso
Salute, Charl Forst!
What a sweet celebration of power and grace
and music you give us.
Outstanding vid.
Increíble
The first that jumped over the back was not Fosbury but Gaspar (Hongary) at therties.
Buahhh great vídeo men!!! And women😁🤙
Congrats for all
We were taught the Western roll in 7th grade. That was 1969. The next year a kid in the class behind us jumped 6 feet with that technique.
Are you sure it wasn't the Straddle? People used to -- and still mix them up...
Impressive. But the old jumping looks even more impressive..
Especially the "standing still" jump in front of the bar. That blew me away.
I like the Front Jump Kick style. The oldest one, it's not easy to do it, man
It really looks like the big padded mats made technique viable. Without the thick mats you would break your back folding in half.
Touche'! Who would've wanted to find out which bones would break first?
Before the first Port-A-Pit, they use hessian bags filled with scrap foam, which was at least an improvement on the loose foam and sawdust which came before it.
la pelle d'ocaaa.. bellissimo, bravissimi :D
I was jumping 6 foot doing the scissor method and into saw dust.
I brividi, grazie per questo reperto storico ❤️
Glory upon whom who jumped in the old manner
Le tecniche utilizzate prima di Fosbury erano il salto frontale , il salto forbice, il salto da fermo , la tecnica horine.
Dopo la rivoluzione di Fosbury nel '68 però , il suo stile diventa quasi un dogma per questo sport e molti atleti iniziano a saltare come Fosbury.
Il suo stile prevede, uno slancio in velocità, un salto di schiena con il centro di massa sotto l'asticella , e poi , quando quasi tutto il corpo è dopo l'asticella , tirare su le gambe e cadere sul materasso. Così Javier Sotomayor nel 1993 fece un salto di 2,45 m , record ancora imbattuto
There is/ was a Canadian female high jumper called Debbie Brill, I think before Fosbury' appearance who many people think was the first to invent this technique.If you Google her name you will get her history ,and the connection with the "flop ".
There were many German women that jump fosbury style before ww2!I met two!and the reason behind this is that they did gymnastics parallel to track and field!😮
@@spirosvelliniatis2165 That is a very interesting piece of information..Debbie Brill called it the " Brill bend " .I wonder if they both learnt of the German women years before and decided to borrow the style ..The first time I ever saw it was on TV with Debbie Brill using it .I don't know if Fosbury was using it then ,but he might have been .
@@djangorheinhardt I know first hand that it was monitored by state gymnasts that came to study the style!what I don't know is,if this documentation came to allies hands and copied or was lost .And parallel some other athletes developed the same style.👍
@@spirosvelliniatis2165 It is quite intriguing but does it mean that Fosbury was just one of a bunch of high jumpers who were experimenting with the style.I was a late entrant into teaching and in the Teacher training College when we were examining track and field events ,this was after Fosbury's Gold medal performance ,I asked the Trainer/ instructer about teaching the flop/ bend and he immediately by passed it and muttered something about the cost of the special landing pits and the danger to the children of such an extreme style ..When I got a job going round schools I was teaching music and guitar but I don't think I ever saw any PE teacher with the kids doing the flop.I don't know if they do now .
sin voluntad de desmerecer a Fosbury, al contrario, creo que el progreso en materiales (sistemas-colchonetas de amortiguacion) influyó en el progreso. Alguien imagina intentar un salto Fosbury en foso de arena o serrín?
I was actually more impressed by the "standing still" jump in front of the bar.
Yes, and the running start of the 'old' way looks much harder than Fosbury especially that last leg 'pop'.
I had to rewind and watch that again to make sure he wasn't bouncing off some trampoline. Freakin' impressive.
Ty Fosbury!!
My hero!
I were champion in high jump in 2005
come si chiama il titolo della colonna sonora iniziale?
per qualche mio compagno di scuola che sta guardando questo video sono alessia
跳び方の革新に一番影響を与えたのは、着地側の緩衝材となるウレタンやスポンジですね。同じベリーロールでもブルメルのは、まさにダイビングで、砂場では危険なフォームでした。ベルリン五輪の記録映画等の映像有難うございます。ベリーロールの選手の中で、豪スネズウェルが映っていると思うのですが、確信が持てません。
when did they add the mat
Good question. I think Port-A-Pit were the first manufacturers of box foam constructed mats and I know they were around in the mid 1960s. Maybe this helps?
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I am guessing that inflatable landing pads made a lot of difference. Landing backwards head first into sand would be very dangerous from a height of over 2 metres
They were not inflatable. They were made up of a lattice of foam logs with a solid top and a gage which limited the escape of air.
My friend so so light that he can walk up to the bar and practically lean over the bar and I REALLY have to jump over it even though we are the same height (btw I have a heavy body structure and is quite heavy even though I'm not fat)
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The old technique looks more athletic to me. Idk
Yeah for sure it's more natural
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There is always room for innovation. The laws of physics rule. The Fosbury flop is one example of this. Also, in the 1980's it was shown you can swim faster UNDERWATER than on the surface. That was counterintuitive and surprising.
Please explain how the laws of physics rule in this example.
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@@tromboneJTS Thanks for the link. I don't wish to be a smart arse here but unfortunately, that video has an awful lot of misinformation in it, including but not limited to, the difference between Fosbury's Olympic record and the then-World record, held at the time by Valeriy Brumel. It was 4 centimetres, not "six inches".
But that is a very small point. The problem with almost all internet information about the so-called Fosbury Flop is that it concentrates on silly superficialities instead of solid biomechanics. The most important thing to remember about the high jump is that it doesn't matter what technique you use. Ninety five percent of the work is done on the ground, not in the air. Using the flop will not suddenly turn you into an Olympic athlete just by going over on your back.
In 1968, that was all anyone talked about. The reality, born out by research, is quite different.
Both the flop and the straddle have their origins in the scissors, believe it or not. The straddle took the Western Roll, a variant of the scissors, and reworked both the takeoff and the bar clearance. Fosbury, who struggled with the straddle, found the scissors more natural and evolved his technique over about five years.
That's where the similarities end. Fosbury's technique wasn't just different because he went over on his back. The difference started with his run. In contrast to straddlers, he used a sprint approach, which meant he had a lesser ability to control his centre of gravity in the final strides but more kinetic energy to translate into the vertical. In other words, the whole of the jump was different - runup, takeoff and clearance. Unfortunately, far too much attention - and a lot of bullshit - has been wasted on bar clearance technique.
So down to the hardcore physics and biomechanics. The biggest advantage of the straddle is that the takeoff is more efficient. A powerful free lead leg not only has a lot of kinetic energy, it also significantly raises the jumper's center of gravity when they leave the ground, when compared with the flop. The flop doesn't have that but it does have speed of approach.
As for bar clearance, there is surprisingly little between a well-executed dive straddle and a flop clearance. I have seen ridiculous claims that the flop allows the body to pass 40 centimetres under the bar. This is absolute nonsense but it gives you some idea how silly the whole thing has become.
*The greatest single advantage of the flop is that it is easier to learn and results come more quickly.*
For the record, I was a high jumper myself and a coach. I have a degree in sports science and most of the really good information I have came from two first rate sources: the late Dr John Cheffers (formerly of Boston University) - "Cheff" to his friends:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Cheffers
and Dr Jesus Dapena, with whom I have had personal contact. Here is a link Dr Dapena's work:
webapp1.dlib.indiana.edu/findingaids/view?doc.view=entire_text&docId=InU-Ar-VAD1666
The only stuff I have from Cheff is hardcopy. Sorry.
I hope you enjoy the reading.
By the way, have a look at this sequence:
th-cam.com/video/_zdDeu-RWtQ/w-d-xo.html
@@thethirdman225 That is great information and the differences between techniques and styles is clearly complex, as you described. There was mention that foam rubber landing pits allowed greater flexibility by permitting an injury-free landing. This must also be considered a technical innovation of importance.
The ingenuity of athletes -- breaking tradition and thinking outside the box -- in addition to raw and refined athletic ability, has pushed records to limits previously unthinkable.
@@tromboneJTS
*_"This must also be considered a technical innovation of importance."_*
It was. So were non-triangular bars (I landed on a few. They hurt).
Records were made to be broken. Fosbury's contribution made him arguably *the* most influential athlete of the 20th Century and I can't think of anyone who did more to change an event. Even Parry O'Brien didn't change the shot put that much when he developed the shift technique.
But neither of those change the basic laws of physics. They just made things a bit easier.
Repare no corpo magro do Cubano Javier, que treinava na Rússia, desproporcional para sua altura. Compare com o Usain Bolt, mesma altura e mais massa. Óbvio que Javier utilizava produtos proibidos para ficar mais leve, tanto é que ninguém passa sua marca.
first music please
Two steps from Hell - Heart of Courage
Darude, Sandstorm
Crystallize Lindsey Stirling
what is the name of the first music of the video ??..Please
I think you can just search "epic music". Its really popular
Fosbury 💪
shut up
@@AleTravi 😂🖕
Javier : It's a world record finally. I did it 😄
Fosbury : Proud of you kid...
Fosbury jumped 7'4" to win the gold in '68. He never broke the world record of 7'5 3/4 by Russian Valerie Brummel, st in '61., which stood for a decade or more. Franklin Jacobs jumped 7'8 1/2, and he was only 5'8 1/2, using the Brummel method, a decade after Fosbury won the gold. Jacobs's record still stands as the highest jump over one's own height....it was tied by a 5'11 inch Swede, Stefan Holm, who jumped 7'11, one of the highest jumps in history. He used the Fosbury method. In the flop, there is no time when the entire body is above the bar.
Learn metric.
Sotomayor sigue con recor mundial 2.45
music please
Darude, Sandstorm
Anybody know the song?
+Jake Wis The first one is The White Noises' "We Are Here", and the second is Lindsey Stirling's "Crystallize".
Also, Darude Sandstorm
E da qui nasce il Sotomayor di Aldo, Giovanni e Giacomo
it must have been very weird teaching high jump technique prior to Fosbury
Not at all.
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in brasile
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old Technic more reasonable
Please note that Soto..... achieved his world record wearing decent / normal athletics' shorts. NOT obscene tight pufta shorts.
Cocaine...
Lindsey Stirling's music.
What is the second music used?
Darude, Sandstorm
if you still haven't found it it's: Crystallize - Lindsey Stirling
Abernathy thanks!!
Biutiful
This video is almost ghostly. No mattress either!
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i am 15 years of age
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FUE EN EL 68
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If Fosbury was nor american they would not have allowed him to jump like that ...
Rubbish.
@@thethirdman225 the same...for you
@@marianomariano968 Prove it.
I don' t think so...
@@marianomariano968 Prove it.
Heya, my buddy had some good gains with theSoaringBaller programme (just google it). Was pretty sweet seeing his results...
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I wonder if this same concept has been tried forward instead of backwards? The human body bends much easier this way. This would be different than the old straddle way. Maybe approach the bar straight on (perpendicular to bar) and make a high arcing dive over the bar and somersault to the back. Because it's more natural to bend this way it may be possible to maintain an even lower average center of gravity and still clear the bar one section of the body at a time. The knees could be the tricky part here as they would be pointed down and not up and could clip the bar. I'm not a jumper has anyone tried this?
Patrick Horn i have actually. it's basically you would just try to do a front flip over the bar. it works actually pretty good but the only thing is it's hard to generate more power and get high jumps that way
Samuel Akinlolu very nice! Why do you think you can't generate as much jumping power from a front approach versus a side approach?
When jumping backwards, they kick their legs forward (like when you kick a ball).
When jumping forward, you need to kick your legs backwards.
When you kick a ball, do you deliver more power when kicking forward or backwards?
Forward kick generates more power. This is why, when they jump over, they kick the legs forward and those generate more power.
Same when doing a backflip.
Once you learn backflips, you'll notice how much more easier it is than a frontflip, due to generating much more swing power when kicking the legs forward.
For that same reason you mentioned in your commend, because our body bends easier that way.
Yes it actually has. Skindivers for Roto Rooter use the technique you're describing almost daily. It's called the Commode Crawl. It was banned from competition in the late 1920's due to the stock market crash (everyone had lost their ass).
I believe a front dive is not allowed because of a no-diving rule. Although they do a front dive in amputee high jump in the Special Olympics.
Poi arrivo io che a scuola nemmeno 80cm riesco a saltare haha
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pre
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Poorly presented... Didn't mention dates the techniques were invented... Including the Eastern Cut-off.
These weren’t suddenly invented. They developed over time.
@@thethirdman225 1895 Eastern Cut-off. 1912 Western roll. 1930 Straddle. 1968 Fosbury Flop. You want more infirmation...? 😁
James Williams Yes: a reference please.
James Williams Are you really saying the Fosbury Flop was invented in 1968? Really? The man had been experimenting with it for six years before that. Futhermore, Fosbury’s technique was an evolution of the scissors, just like all the others you mentioned.
James Williams I have and you’re wrong. No good you crying and calling me names if you’re making a claim you can’t back up. That’s your job by the way. Not mine.
this video was a real flop...
cazzo ma come facevano??? era molto più difficile, era alllucinante
chi ha caricato questo video ha sicuramente buon gusto per la musica e per lo sport. COMPLIMENTI! ;)
Bellissimo video da brividi e meraviglioso il secondo brano cortesemente mi sapete dire come si chiama il brano e chi la composto GRAZIE e comunque grandissima disciplina atletica il salto in alto chissà se in futuro si supererà il record dei 2,45 metri del Cubano Sotomayor
Debbie Brill was doing exactly the same thing in the early 1960’s, possibly before Dick Fosbury, which is why, in Canada it is called the Brill Bend.
Would the Fosbury flop ever have come into use if inflatable or foam landing pads were not invented? I find it hard to imagine someone landing in sand on their back.
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SOTOMAYÓÓR!!
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direi che il salto in alto l'abbiano rivoluzionato sia Fosbury che chi ha inventato il materassino...altrimenti le schienate sulla sabbia non le avrebbero date volentieri
la stessa cosa che ho pensato anche io vedendo il video
Bellissimo video davvero complimenti!!!!!
Complimenti ragazzi e Ragazze, proprio un bel lavoro :-)
imagine if valery brumel is fit on 68 Olympics..it will be epic fight between him and fosbury.. remember 2.28m was world record at that time(hold by valery) with straddle technique...fosbury win with 2.24...