How to make a single focus anamorphic lens for $100
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ส.ค. 2024
- Want to learn how to make a single focus anamorphic lens for cheap? Here's how.
Full breakdown of parts:
1 x anamorphic adapter for 16mm projector. I got mine for $5
1 x Helios 44-4 - $55
1 x Neewer m42 - NEX adapter - $20
8 x 6mm bearings (www.amazon.de/...)
50 3mm steel balls
8 x 40mm m3 screws
3 x 30mm m3 screws
11 x m3 nuts
All the parts to print: www.thingivers...
Dude, this is super amazing!
Thank you, you've got some pretty amazing content yourself! I'm thinking of going one step further and making an anamorphic zoom. Let me know if you'd be interested in collaborating on that.
dude,that collab would be great
@@outsideworlds I have an Hypergonar 16 and a Nikon 35 to 70mm internal zoom. Would you be interested in using these lenses for your anamorphic zoom project?
@@salvatorerubino2199 , thanks for the offer, I just watched Tito's video about the Hypergonar. It looks like it would vignett pretty badly at 35mm even at S35. I assume you've tried it out?
@@outsideworlds you are right about 35 and S35. M43rd works well though. your prototype could be the beginning of something really great for these old adaptors and independent filmmakers. Are interested in making a single focus solution for a Hypergonar or a bolex adapters?
it's so important that people like you are doing builds in such a way and then documenting it. thank you for doing so.
This is amazing! Would love to see a modification to the lens base so that this can be done with EF/PL so that it can be used on pretty much any camera! I'm assuming some internals would need to move up the lens to do so, but that would be amazing!
This is very impressive, and that’s not even considering how difficult 3d printing parts can be
Incredible work! Curious about the math to synchronize the focus turn ratios. Hope to see more projects like this. Sub'd.
Awesome. the math in synchronizing the focus of the two lenses is beyond me, how you did it is amazing!!!! That should be one of your future videos. ( pretending not too demanding...:] )
It's on the way.
Excelente I will be waiting to understand the process as well it would be grate to understand how to design something like that. I was on the fence regarding investing in a 3D printer but you changed my mind with this project. Congratulations
As a scope user for ages, this is incredible mate. Thank you for sharing and congrats on developing this!
Aaaaand the more i watch this, the more my jaw drops. This is absolutely epic
future lens creator so cool
Sometimes I think I know more than most regarding cameras and custom lens manufacture, and then this MF comes out of the depths to put me in my place lol incredible stuff, man! This deserves so many more views, but I think the target demographic for this kind of advanced content is unfortunately small. However I feel it is growing now that anamorphic is becoming more affordable and popular! I have a Isco Ultrastar coming in the mail, and I think I'm going to do something absurd like this with it, so thanks for the inspiration and education!
Well done! Unlike many other people, you have spent your pandemic time very usefully! 🙂
This is absolutely amazing work! I just got my Proskar 16B with Helios, waiting for the clamp to arrive, but this is next level stuff. Thank you!
The dude is genius! 😍 I love it!
You could use heat threaded inserts instead of the nut and nut holders. Those would simplify the assembly process enormously. Just melt the threaded inserts in with a soldering iron and they stay there. Really like the project and video. 👍🏼
At this time I made this I didn't know they existed. I've learned a lot since then :-D Thanks for the tip.
Oh man, I love how honest you are with your f-ups! xD I think you are the most human person on TH-cam.
You are a freaking genius !!! It looks great !!!
Design process video would be awesome! Great work man.
Dude... epic RND to get to that point!! Well done!!
Bravo!! Amazing engineering Work! And Thank You so much for making this available and Opensource!
I'd love to hear more about the Maths though ;) Like how sync operate along the rotation course, apart from start / end?
For now the Geeetech A10 knows that she'll soon have to behave! ;)
Enough people have asked about it, I'm going to make another video about the design process soon and I finally shot some better test footage I'll upload upload as soon as I have a break to edit it.
Bro... you are absolutely brilliant!! Bravo!!
in my time i played alot with ana, swapping different rear/front glasses, trying 4x anamorphic on a vertical sensor. And making mechanically sync one was my last project, to bad i dont have skills and a machinist guy is lost on the way. At a time there was a lot opinions in community that it will not work and here u prove them wrong. Wow, thats a solid proof of concept, wish i could adapt that for other combo ) im really amazed that linear mechanical syncronization is working
Trust me, no one is more amazed that it worked that I am 😀
Would be cool if you made a similar type "cine-housing" on different types of vintage lenses, like Helios, Jupiter, Takumars or Canon FD's!
That would be fun, but I'd have to physically have each of those lenses to make the adjustments needed. I was able to do this project with things I already had, so it mainly just cost me my time. If there's enough interest, maybe I'll start a patreon and make more of these.
@@outsideworlds I know this is late but this would defintely be something I would not only throw money behind but send my lenses in for you to tinker with
I am thoroughly impressed! Wonderful job, I can't wait to see what you shoot with this lens. now you can stare Zeiss right in the face and laugh. you got a new car from the money you saved making your own lens!
I wonder if it weren‘t easier to just get one of those autofocus adapters for vintage lenses that move the whole lens forward and back.
Also great choice of beer there
Good idea, but moving the lens back and forth would only focus the taking lens, not the anamorphic adapter. I'm glad someone finally noticed the beer 😀
Really cool! I know it's probably a massive undertaking making a video to explain your design process, but even a less in-depth video where you touch on some of the high level concepts that went into the design would be invaluable. For example - a video about how you calculated the gear ratio (I'm not even sure if that's the correct term) to normalize the focus movements between the two lenses would be hugely helpful for anyone thinking of attempting a similar design.
found this a bit late, but would like to see the design process
Please please PLEASE make the design video!
This! please do it. Would love to see the thought process.
I've been trawling the internet for HOURS looking for that anamorphic adapter you have - or anything similar to it - and you've somehow managed to find something the internet doesn't seem to know exists.
Films Incorporated 16mm Anamorphic Lens 2x No 370731
If anyone else has any luck finding this lens or similar, I'm dying to try this project and could use a lead.
You could also look for "ishico proskar 16" which seems to be exactly the same thing. I'll be making another video about how to adapt this design for differen adapters
@@outsideworlds That would be brilliant. I'd love to see that video.
@@outsideworlds Could you please use the "35нап2-3м" (35nap2-3m) next time? It's fairly common and really cheap, unlike that ishico proskar 16. This lens was used to unfold the anamorphic footage at the cinema.
@@paradox6331 I've looked at that adapter, but it's a lot bigger than one I'm using right now, which is already pretty big, also if I remember right, the minimum focal distance is pretty bad.
This. Is. Insane. You are a genius.
I like your work a lot, keep at it. I often wondered if there is a cheap way to convert vintage anamorphic lenses for todays needs.
mmwuh? How do you mean convert, and what kind if lenses do you mean? I mean, if you have an actual anamorphic lens there should be some lens adaptor or such to get it stuck to the front of the camera in a way that's aligned more or less enough whip the photons where they need to go... You'll have to desqueeze the image probably but there are tools for that. So, point being if you have a something anamorphic that attaches to something and does the thing you want, but you want it to attach to something else, it shouldn't be that hard 🙂 Worst case you can sub a proper adapter for an improper one that eyeball measure puts at "about right", a dremel with some bits, electrical tape and a case of beer, put them in a big shaker, drink the beer, shake it shake it - when you wake up you'll have an engineering marvel the likes of which mankind has yet to see.
Alternatively, give me the scoop on the lens(es) you mean and I'll give it a shake and let you know 🙂
I don't see this on your "about" tab, but you have crazy skills.... not your day job is a bit vague.... what IS you background, even if you don't share your day job! I'm guessing an engineer of some kind.... mechanical if I was pressed... but your are a man with tremendous skill! I've sub'd and given you a big thumbs up! Thanks Doug (from Canada)
I'm a filmmaker with a degree in physics, but good guess :-) Thanks for the kind words and greetings from Berlin.
@@outsideworlds one of our favourite places to visit!
Been thinking of doing something similar as well. The synchro focus system is very well done :)
Thanks. Let me know if you need any help adapting the design it to your anamorphic adapter.
I am very impressed. You did the work and got the result. I hope you shoot a nice project with it. Thanks for posting this video. I am looking forward to what you will do next.
It could be an interesting kit for people who have a Helios 44.
Interesting yes, but it would be such a low volume kit, I can't imagine it working financially. If anyone wants to try, I'm open to collaborate.
Dude, you are a hero! BTW, was that Aperture Science? Nice touch!
Impressive.
In the future, I would love to order one for my ISCO RED and my PENTAX 55MM.
Amazng work! I wish I had access to some of my old work’s gears (Ex-Machinist in training before injury) to try make this myself… maybe I should ask my old coworker about it hahaha. But once again, great work, amazing to see it working!
Please make a DIY video!!!
Brilliant! This is so great you documented this and shared.
I would love a video about the design
Very well done!
Impressive engeneering work
(But use the lens flare to allign the anamorphic lens 😉)
Insane Work !!!
Are you a genius or what?
I want more! Good work , mate! Subbed!
That's a nice piece of mechanic!!!
I second that, thingeyverse shows 404 error. Just built an enclosure for my 3D printer and have a 1.8x anamorphic lens and a Helios 44-2. So this would be an awesome project! Let me know when the link is active again!
Sorry about that, I just fixed the link. Now it should work
It’s all good! Just excited to print this out! Your awesome!
Super dope! Might have to try this out!
your a genius! the only downside of this compared to a cine lens OR also to usage of a variable diopter is the movement of the internal lenses. the image moves alot while focusing. (not shanking. in denpth) but thanks to you, i realize it now before i play and print arround for ages :)
I posted another video with better test footage in my channel and you can decide yourself whether it's usable for focus pulls or not. If you're curious, the main pros and cons I've experienced vs. a variable diopter.
Pro:
- Cost
- Not adding yet more glass which affects immage quality and flaring
Cons:
- The focus is stiffer than I'd like
- Stretch shifts from infinity to close focus (about 2x - 1.8x, can be fixed in post)
- The gears make some noise which might be a problem for quiet scenes
@@outsideworlds i think this is perfect for photography. also, putting it on a gimbal could lead to decalibrating effects because of the moving weight. but all that asside, youre really a genius for building that! i alsways (since years) wanted to build something like that! maybe i find the time to build yours. thx for sharing!
This is brilliant! been thinking of doing something like this for a while!
Feel free to steal my idea, just let me know when you do it. I'd love to see how you improve on my design :-)
Truly awesome work.
Interesting project, but I think it is only advisable for wide angle adapters such as Kowa H, and Sankor Type 5e for the rest it is better to invest in FM.
I had to google to figure out that FM stood for focus module. I did it this way for 2 reasons, 1, I liked the look of my adapter and I didn't want to add yet more glass in front of it and 2. the cost. I was really just doing this for fun and trying to spend as little money as possible. Any variable diopters I looked at, even the DIY one recommended by Anamorphic on a Budget would have cost more than everything else in this project.
@@outsideworlds I understood you.
If you make a version for Kowa H and several popular cameras without losing the viewing angle of the anamorphic, open gate such as GH5 and Z cam, and the standard S35, I think this project can be printed on order, it will be really profitable for the buyer, and you will earn money ... Because big FM is expensive.
@@creative_camera_lens LOL, I had to google again to figure out what the Kowa 16h is :-) I tested my adapter with different lenses and the widest I could go was a 35mm lens on a S35 sensor. So not exactly wide angle. It would be fun to try the Kowa and see if I could manage a 24mm. Thanks for the tip!
So good ! keep up the great work, thanks a lot for sharing
Great video! I would like to design one for myself too! But may I please ask how did you calculate the gear ratio? It will be nice if you can include that on your next video. Thank you
Thank you, very interesting.
Great design and great video :)
It's cool! encouragement given.
COOL!
Liked and subscribed. Please do more and different versions of this. Very f*cking cool.
This is outstanding, thanks!!
Wow!! This is really something.
Fckn Tony Stark of the filmworld 💪
Brilliant!! Thanks for sharing!!
Seriously amazing!!
Loved This! Wow, I'd really love to learn how to make something like this, must feel rewarding :D
I've filmed a how to, I just need to cut it together. Thanks for the motivation.
@@outsideworlds Hi ! The project is impressive. Have you managed to release the how to video / 3D files ? I'm very interested !
Me to! I would really like to know how to do the syncro calculation for my project!
@@rvee3064
very cool man!
Super awesome, thanks for being amazing!
You mad genius...
Well, you're half right
Nice.
Man, your work is incredible! May I contact you? I have some really interesting ideas with anamorphic lens rehouse!
Glad you liked it. I just sent you a PM on Facebook.
Amazing build man, I wish i had your patience >
I think the words you're searching for are obsessiveness and boredom, but thanks :-)
@@outsideworlds haha, no, i almost never build things with a lot of potential out of boredom (obsessiveness is quite right though)
@@Robin.F96 really? I sometimes have the feeling the most interesting things I've done in my life were either born out of boredom or a desire to piss someone off :-)
Well Done Brother.
Love it! Question: would it be possible to make an EF version? Thanks.
For EF you would need some machined metal parts. For this design I'm using the m42->E-mount adapter as a base to which I attach everything else. Because the flange focal distance of m42 and EF is so close, the adapter is very thin and there's nothing to attach to.
I still don't know how to make 3d stuff other than print :/ if I find an anamorphic lens similar will your print files more than likely work with mine? Thanks!
Yes. I guess the same anamorphic adapter was sold under different brand names. The Sankor 16-b seems to be the same thing and easier to find. If you find the parts and have any trouble let me know and I'll help you make adjustments.
Is that the fan noise of the Atomos? Thanks for doing this!
I just love these "censor" peeps xd Btw I got a full german set up of an anarmophic projector and taking lens. It looks terrible from the outside but the image is really cool. I would love to build a housing though
Then you should build a housing for it :-) I've recorded another video about how to adapt this design to other anamorphic adapters which I'll put up as soon as I have a chance to edit it.
Fantastic work! Keep it up!
It appears this project isn't getting any updates, but I'm curious if anyone has attempted to make it work with other mounts. I'm running Fuji X mount and I can't tell from looking at the parts if the mount adapter can simply be swapped or if the design is made specifically for that one Neewer M42->NEX adapter.
Great idea, I'd love to try it out.
I've shot footage for follow up videos, but finding the time ti edit has been a challenge. Fuji X mount has a pretty similar flange distance, so adapting the design should be pretty simple. I'd be happy to help out if you want to try it.
@@outsideworlds Oh hey, I didn't realize you were still paying attention. I moved to the EU recently and do not have 3D printing gear here, but if I have a project I know would work there are services here that could print for me. Also having difficulty determining the exact anamorphic adapter you used on eBay, if you have the model that would make it easier to find one.
What information would you need to make the adaption? I can measure a M42->X mount adapter, I assume that would be the main difference. Any help appreciated, this seems like a very cool project.
@@ReflexVE I've tried to find my exact adapter again and it's pretty hard to find, especially in the EU. People have commented that it's looks similar to the Sankor 16c, but I can't confirm. So probably you would have to go through the same design process I did. I promise I'll publish a video about it by the end of the month. For the mount adapter, can you reply with an amazon link? Then I can tell you what points I would need measured.
@@outsideworlds So I looked into your adapter, Films Incorporated appears to actually be Sankor, they sold under that name for a while from what I can tell. But there are a ton of minor variations on the 16C, which makes it tricky to find an exact match.
I looked up my mount adapter but realized it's a no-name generic I got as part of a Helios 44-2 I ordered from RetroFotoHouse. I can't find an exact match, but I do see some similar ones. I'd say I should probably choose one of the common ones on Amazon that anyone can get by brand name so that others can apply this work. I'm going to see which ones are sold in both the USA and EU and get back to you on that. EDIT: I did a quick look and the one I saw that was in both was the K&F Concept adapter. It's not a cheap one unfortunately but it gets great reviews. Sadly the well reviewed and cheap Fotasy one seems to be US only.
www.amazon.com/dp/B087X1WQ48/
www.amazon.de/-/en/dp/B087CSJM8W/
Are you on any messenger apps or Twitter? Be nice to converse directly. Thanks for helping out!
This looks awesome! Is the resemblance to the zeiss' barrel deliberate? :) Awesome project
Totally deliberate. Originally I was even going to write "Mister Anamorphic" on the side :-D Glad you like it.
Ive been trying to find a place to buy a anamorphic lens adapter for a cheep price but I can’t seem to find and. Anyone know of a way to get them? Is there any old projectors I could rip one out of that might be selling cheaper than the adapter itself
Beautifull. One question, This only work with The Kowa? Cause That I have a Sankor, Thanks
It should work with the Sankor, but you'll probably have to make some adjustments: you'd have to adjust the gear ring which attaches to the focus ring of the sankor, you'd have to change the clamp to fit it and you'd probably have to change the gear box. Basically you measure the angle of the focus throw of the anamorphic adapter from infinity to 1.5 meters, divide it by the focus throw of the helios and you have your target gear ratio. If you reply with those measurements, I'll adjust the model on thingyverse.
@@outsideworlds thanks buddy i"ll try to.
How it change a focal length after anamorphic de squeeze?
Does It work in full frame mode or only in APS-C, Super 35mm, 16mm or Super 16mm mode?
The tests at the end were all done with a full frame camera. There's a slight vignette, but I like it. Calculating the focal length is complicated. The taking lens is 58mm and there seems to be some vertical squeeze as well as horizontal, so vertically it's something like 50-55mm equivalent and horizontally, if you're cropping to 2.4:1, then it's 58 * (2.4 / ((16/9)*2)) = 39mm. Yay, math is fun :-)
Are you selling any of these? I’d be interested in buying one
Not at the moment. This is very much a prototype and there would still be a huge amount of work in making a final product or even a kit, but I'm looking into it.
This is some awesome work man. Would you be willing to share the design files via git. I would like to fork this and work on a version for a kowa 16h anamorphic and options for few other taking lenses. I have a ton of vintage taking lenses and a lot of time on hand.
A collection of old lenses and too much time are the two most important ingredients for a project like this :-D I designed everything in Blender, so I don't know how useful a blend file will be to anyone else, but I'd be glad to share it after I've cleaned it up a little. If I get to 100 likes, I'll make a second video on the design process.
@@outsideworlds You're gonna get more than 100 likes :)
@@outsideworlds I believe STEP files are work universally across all 3d apps and blender does seem to have an option to export these. Please let me know once you are able to clean the design and make the files available. Also yes the design process video would be very interesting as well.
@@ascari100 enough people asked for it, I guess I'm making the design video. I'll do my best to get that out in the next two week. In the mean while, I uploaded the blend file to thingiverse: www.thingiverse.com/thing:4832093 Please let me know if you're able to do anything with it!
@@outsideworlds you are a champ. Let me look into this asap and report back
Crazy!
Wow!
Hey, amazing work!
btw. what is the shoulder pad you were using? (TC 24:40) I'd love to get one for my rig bcs i love the design, but cant find the exact one.
SmallRig Sony VCT-14 Shoulder Plate. I've had it for a couple years now and I've very happy with it.
Someone make this for 35mm projection lenses!
I'm working on it
@@outsideworlds I love you for this!!! I promise you would KILL the anamorphic market if you make and sell a version for 35mm projector lenses.
@@outsideworlds not only would projection lenses go up but the indie world would be so beautiful. Everyone has the big scopes but they are so hard to use without a single focus
@@britneylynn5735 unfortunately everything comes with tradeoffs. My project with a 35mm projector lens is still pretty big and getting close focus to work without a variable diopter makes it even more complicated than this one. On the other hand, I like the look and you can't beat the price :-D
Yes!!!!!
from where did u procure the anamorphic projector lens,ive tried ebay ,dint find any
I found the adapter in a cardboard box in the corner of a used electronics store, but you can usually find several on eBay for wildly different prices and if you're patient it's possible to get good deals. I'd recommend checking out the TH-cam channel Anamorphic on a Budget which has a lot more information about the different adapters out there.
Genius!
The effect is nice, but the focus breathing is heavy.
We like to refer to that as "character" 😀 It's a lens with a definite look and not something I'd use for every project.
amazing. amazzinggg
Will you do a version with focal and aperture markings?
This version actually has aperture markings, but I accidentally did them wrong, so I didn't point it out :-D I plan to make a new version after I've had a chance to shoot a project with the lens.
Hello. What is the name of this plastic device that you used and where can you buy it?
Thank you
Which plastic device do you mean? All the plastic parts are 3D printed. You can find the files to print them yourself at www.thingiverse.com/thing:4832093
@@outsideworlds Hello. I meant the same devices that you have given the link to. Where can I buy these? And that I want to make it for the Canon EF mount. Do I still need the same nex adapter?
Thank you
@@user-lo9et8dh1z all the parts are 3D printed, so if you don't have a 3D printer you would need to find a print service or a friend with a 3D printer. All the other parts (screws, ball bearings, steel balls) I think I ordered off of Amazon. I'm located in Germany, so my Amazon links probably won't help you much. It should be possible to adapt this design to EF mount. You will need to adjust some of the 3D part files, or find someone who's able to do so. I don't have a camera with an EF mount, so unfortunately I can't help you much there.
By the way, I am also in Germany, near Hamburg. I don't understand what you mean by 3D printer. I mean, a 3D printer should produce those parts for me.
@@user-lo9et8dh1z
Here's all the links
This is the 3D printer I used: www.amazon.de/gp/product/B07P64GQKV/
The ball berrings: www.amazon.de/gp/product/B07CLLY912/
Steel balls: www.amazon.de/gp/product/B08MNZNBS2/
M42 - NEX adapter: www.amazon.de/-/en/gp/product/B01HGDFTUO/
Screws, nuts, etc. you can get at any big hardware store.
Like I wrote, you'd need to make adjustments to the 3D model to use a different adapter, e.g. to EF. Hope that helps. Good luck!
Are you able to shoot full frame with that adapter?
Yes, the tests at the end were shot in full frame. There's some vignetting in the corners above f4, but I personally kind of like it.
are you going yo sell these
all I can say is wow I like buying lenses at thrift stores and sometimes I take them apart BROKEN ONES ONLY and see how they work but never tried doing a lens hmmmm ???
whats the size of your m42 to sony E dummy adaptor? This could work with anything im wanting to get it onto a canon but yeah just not sure the dummy adaptors would be exactly the same dimensions and want to check
E-mount has a flange focal distance of 18mm and m42 is 45.46mm, so I guess the adapter's about 32mm long? m42 to canon EF adapter's exist, but they're very thin, so you'd have to change my design to make it work. I have everything mounted to the adapter, but it would also be possible to clamp on to the lens itself.
@@outsideworlds youre a legend mate thank you
How does the single focus work? Does the anamorphic adapter move acordingly back and forward so the focus is corect? Thank you!
The anamorphic adapter has it's own focus wheel, just like the taking lens. I've added gears which translate the rotation of the main focus gear to match the throw and direction of both the anamorphic adapter and the taking lens.
@@outsideworlds that’s beyond magic great work man
very c00l
Hey very nice video but the link for thingsverse doesn't work can you please help? Thanks
The link works now. Thanks for letting me know.
@@outsideworlds np man you're the best! But hey do you join in the anamorphic group on facebook? There's lots of helpful tips up in there and I'm sure you can others as well with your fantastic work check it out
@@tommipham4553 no I'm not. Which group? When I search for "Anamorphic" I find a bunch of groups.
@@outsideworlds oh sorry it's "anamorphic shooters"
thats cool, respect ;]