Just used this video to assemble my Firman generator. It sat in my shed brand new in the box for a couple years before I got to it. Fired rite up on propane. Thank you.
Mines a firman duel fuel. Uses propane or gasoline. I had it for 5 yrs so far and never put any gasoline in it yet. I get mine out and run it on low load at least once a month or 2. I also have the little 1200 watt that runs on gasoline only. What I can't believe is all the crap going on today that's still depending on the government to save their bacon when the power goes out for a month or longer. And if it's over a year before power comes back on most people won't make it that long
Nice video. Just bought one from Costco today. Had a power outage 2 days ago for about four hours (Florida). Started getting real uncomfortable in this summer heat. Thanks for sharing the video of the setup. Will be very useful as I’m sure I’ll watch it a few more times before getting myself squared away.
very helpful, thank you. i just wanted to add, when starting it put the choke on, be ready to move into the 'run' as it's about to turn over. if you let the generator stop, then try to start it on the when it's on 'run' (like in this video), it may cause a backfire. i learned this the hard way and it was loud as hell.
Excellent video because - you got right to the point without more chatter, excellent instructions with visual and very informative with safety features. Just subbed. Thanks!!
I have a Firman and it is run on my Propane for power outages and RV. Keep in mind the output for each of the 3 different fuel sources. I chose propane because if the whole neighborhood does natural gas, the supply from provider will drop drastically and then you have no natural gas. I have 2 - 20, 2 - 30 and 2 - 100 lbs tanks.
I have recently purchased this model from Costco store. This model's battery receives charging automatically while the generator is running. This information is indicated on page 33 of user manual.
Bought mine 2 years ago, just used it twice in the past 6 months by running extension cords. Now I have installed the soft start kit ,but I hear it's not enough to run the generator on 4 tons a.c unit.. There are no videos to confirm it could run the 4 ton a.c unit . I am thinking about purchasing the Duramax 15000 with a runtime 10000 watts to run the entire house.
I like my Firman Tri-Fuel a lot, especially during the Texas freeze and assorted power outages. The same 1/2" natural gas hose I bought had a 3/8" Female by 1/2" Male brass adapter to connect to the generator. It was too long (deep) on the female end and I had to sand it down so the flange in the adapter would seal against the LP gas fitting on the generator. The other end is a 1/2" male quick disconnect fitting which easily connects to the female fitting attached at the gas valve. I ended up installing a MB Sturgis Propane Elbow Adapter at the generator's 3/8" POL fitting. It is a 3/8" Female Flare Swivel x 3/8" Male Flare (Item # 204163) that I purchased from etrailer . Then I installed the 3/8" Female x 1/2" Male brass adapter there. I can plug the 240V 30A cable to the outlet which is connected to the house electrical panel. I have a 4-ton (46,000 BTU) A/C unit. I installed a Micro-Air EasyStart 368 (4-ton) Soft Starter ASY-368-X48-BLUE. My AC unit now uses 12.8 to 13.8 Amps and a Start Peak of 33 to 36 Amps. My UPS's seem to beep & click when connected to the generator. I have a stupid power strip plugged into the battery backup side of the UPS with items plugged into the strip. All I have to do is move one plug to the surge protector side. And then turn off UPS. Surge protector should still work.
@@alanrodgers4156 24 feet long NG hose. The elbow adapter keeps the hose close to the generator and prevents tripping over the hose. Now it is easy to store the 1/2" NG hose on top of the tank. Trying to line up the cable plug with the inlet at night? Take a marker or white-out and make a line on the plug & socket to line up the two before you twist it. Keep battery charged. Install emergency lights that come on when power goes out. Install them where you set up the generator, at the panel and maybe in the main hall of the house. Have an extra spark plug. Maintenance is easier when using natural gas to power the generator.
Great ideas! Really appreciate it. I purchased couple of spark plugs from oreilly as spare. I love your idea of marking it! I have to figure out how long of gas line I need to get, since my generator inlet box is about 75’ away from where I plan to tap the gas. Do you think 50’, 1/2” gas line might have significant loss? The The reason is because i plan to tap from the dryer gas line and my generator would be located about 50 feet away and then I will have 25 feet 50 amp extension cord to connect to my generator inlet box. I don’t know 50 ‘ gas line and 25’ feet extension line would be better or 25 feet gas line and 50’ feet extension cord to the generator inlet would be more efficient?
@@alanrodgers4156 Not knowledgeable about the gas line length. You will have to research. 50 amp cord? The generator puts out 31.25A at the 50A outlet (page 6 of the manual). You can find a chart for amps, wire size and distance somewhere on the internet.
THIS GENERATOR WORKS LIKE A CHAMP! WORKHORSE, STARTED ON FIRST PULL, USED FOR 10 HOURS AND ONLY USED 1/2 TANK! .....HERE'S THE NEGATIVE ASPECT, VERY LOUD!!!! LOUD, OTHERWISE I RECOMMEND THIS 100% GREAT GENERATOR ♡ JUST LOUD!
I have installed on my home a Generac transfer switch from my 16KW that cratered years ago. Do you think I could wire the Firman into the power lines that are left from the Generac (generator to transfer switch) and be able to use the Firman? I plan on using the natural gas line that was used to supply the natural gas to the Generac.
@Bryan Hansen hello sir. I am new to owning a generator and I found this video extremely helpful. I bought this same generator from Costco and I set it up today. While reading the comments to learn more, I saw your comment about keeping a Noco tender charger attached for the battery. Can you please take a moment and explain how to properly use this charger on this generator? For example, when the generator is not in use, do you keep this charger plugged into the wall and attached to the generator battery to keep it charged at all times? Also, do you keep it attached when you start it up and while using the generator? Lastly, I know the Noco says it can be used in various modes depending on the battery voltage size and type of battery it is. Do you know what size and type this battery is so I can put it in the correct mode? Sorry for such a large comment. Thank you very much for your time and Thank you for the great informative video.
Here in Texas, we had a bad winter storm in Feb 2021. Over 246 people perished, probably more than all of Canada in the same timeframe. I bought a Firman tri-fuel, luckily on sale at the local Costco. I run it for 30-45 minutes monthly/month and a half. My concern is the question of how clean is the electricity produced. Do I need to buy some kind of plug to clean the electricity? To plug into the house outlet feeding my computers, tvs, micro-wave. Would need 4 or 5 if they are sold. Can't find such a product on Amazon. Just don't know the product name, if it exists. Would appreciate greatly any info you may provide. Thanks. Also, looking to install a soft-start on my 3.5 ton AC. Afraid our electric grid is so-so and summers are as hot and could get deadly as winter cold.
It should be noted that the generator will only pull start in the GAS mode of operation. " If the battery is not able to start the engine, it can be started manually only in the GAS position by pulling the engine recoil cord." From the owner's manual.
First, thanks for the very detailed video! I picked up this generator in February 2021. Never owned or used one before. I’m a bit confused based on my owners manual and your video and now your comments here. I’m under the impression if the battery is dead you must pull start the generator and only with gasoline but in your video it clearly looks like you’re pull starting with either LP or NG based on the fuel selector knob. Can you ( or anyone) clear this ip for me?
@@BryanHansen it's still in its box but I have all a need to assemble it. I even bought 5W30 synthetic oil because I live up North. I have watched several TH-cam videos. One guy had problems starting it with propane when he set the choke lever to choke. It started and stop. Anyway I will see what happens. Thanks for your reply...
Nice generator. I have a dual fuel inverter generator but it would be nice to have a trifuel inverter since where I live, the NG is connected to the house. That way, I don't need to go to a place to get fuel that might not get deliveries during a SHTF situation (I do have a Generac whole house genny but would like a backup since Generacs are pretty much crap)
To be honest, the owners manual has been inconsistent on the wording regarding this. It actually says it will only pull start in gasoline mode and I believe it says that the battery needs to be connected. But I have pull started it on LPG and it worked fine. I have NOT tried it without the battery, but I believe it will work. I will try it and let you know.
First of all you did a great video you explained a lot one question I have is I bought it left it in the box for five months because I didn’t need it but it was on sale I built it started it with propane and it wouldn’t stay running is it because it detected a gas leak? Do you have any recommendations what to do?
This generator can use all the necessary energy power gas,lpg,and natural gas. The firman manufacturer put it there for our choice. Just do the proper check up maintenance and this generator will run properly.
I read people complaining about the loud noise this Firman T07571 unit makes. My main concern more than the noise is dirty power it apparently provides. At 11%-14% THD, I'm concerned electronics will get damaged. Anyone have comments/opinions on this point?
In my research most "noise" about dirty power are from people who don't own the unit and "think" it won't work well. The THD means it isn't as efficient, not that it is supplying horrible power. Every single person I know that has run this generator and ran it in a whole home scenario like I am has nothing but good things to say about it. This was one of the preferred generators for a generlink transfer switch. I should note that there wasn't a single Honda generator on that list. Honda being the gold standard that everyone seems to hold everybody else to, doesn't even have a model to run with their transfer switch.
@@BryanHansen Hello Bryan and thanks for your reply and this info. I saw a comment from a guy who did own this unit and said his lights would flicker when he used it and his UPS devices kept switching over to battery power as if the supplied power was not good enough for it. The unit seems great, it's just this issue I am trying to educate myself on and be careful about because the last thing any of us want are circuit/control boards on PCs/TVs/Refrigerators/Washing machines/etc getting slowly damaged all over the place. Again, I'm just trying to learn the facts from those who know so I can make a good decision. Thanks
We own a Predator 9000/7250 gasoline generator that I converted to Tr-fuel. It is a non-invertor generator. It is our whole home backup power source. With over 80 hrs. run time of testing, not one electronic device has been damaged.
I'm no expert but I believe the generator ground lug is only for running the machine independently of your house. If you connect it to your panel you need to follow the manufacturer directions to convert the generator to a floating neutral because the machine will use your panels earth ground.
Depends if you need a bonded or non bonded connection. Some furnace controllers need a bonded connection. If running a transfer switch it should used the house ufer ground. If using it through an extension cord to a furnace (emergency situation) you will likely need to use the ground lug.
@@shanwar9844 Not correct. You still use the choke for the NG or LPG operation. "NOTICE When the main fuel selector switch is turned to the LPG/NG position, the indicator light will turn RED for up to 4 minutes (before going off). Starting the engine successfully anytime during the 4 minutes will turn the indicator light GREEN. See Indicator light-Battery Power Saving Mode section for more information. 7. Disconnect all electrical loads from the generator. Never start or stop the generator with electrical devices plugged in. 8. Move choke lever located on engine to “START” position" (for electric start jump to step 12) 12. For electric start only - Flip the engine switch to the START (ll) position for a few seconds and then release. 13. For electric start only - Move the choke lever to the RUN position. 3 sec. 14. Allow portable generator to run at no load for a few minutes to stabilize before plugging in any electrical devices
I will be using your video when I assemble mine in a few days. Question... Why the owner manual says to use only a 20 pound capacity propane tank or less?
Answer from Firman... You can use a larger tank but you have to have the LPG fitting switched to match a larger tank and ensure the pressure will be between .9 - 1 PSI going into the generator
@@mpierrela unless we are talking about 100 gallon tank or larger, the fitting is the same for an 80 down to a five. The regulator will still regulate the same pressures.
Have you had any communications with FIRMAN about this product. I recently was advised by FIRMAN that extending the exhaust pipe or installing the Generator in an enclosure would VOID my warranty. Any advise on this?
Bryan, Thank you so much! This was perfect. We just bought this model for our home on Maui. We did not lose our home by the grace of God but we are in the fire zone on the West side of Maui and need to be ready for what comes. Anxious to get off work and set this up on our plumbed propane. Question, what do you recommend for bringing the generator closer to items I want to power. I have two ports on the house to connect to propane and was wondering if you would buy more connecting hose or just more power cables. I would appreciate your thoughts. Thank you and god bless. Chris from Maui. Aloha and Mahalo a nui noi!
Hey Chris, glad you were saved! That was so disheartening to watch. I would absolutely move the generator closer what you want to power rather than run more extension cords to what you want to power. The propane line will carry enough pressure to the generator, the power lines on the other hand, lose efficiency over a longer run.
@@cfittit comes with a short one. If you wanted a longer one, I would honestly go to a hose supply shop. Central Maui Propane will likely build them or point you to who can. That being said, I installed this one: amzn.to/3E34vTU and you could use the regulator you have or if your whole house is regulated, just install this hose at the location. Nice thing about it, it is a quick disconnect.
-Kind Sir, I just bought a new Westinghouse WGen9500DF Generator. And its regulator is on the face of the generator. And you must connect the Propane to this regulator. Now I want to use natural Gas too. So, where would I put the connector; if I do it? And would it damage the Propane Regulator; if I connect the NG to the Propane Regulator inlet? I really want to use the NG gas. Thanks kind Sir if you can tell me WHERE the NG connects to the Generator. Or must I buy an "Adapter" installed on the carburetor? But I do NOT need a regulator; what all others are doing. O yes.
@@MrPatdeeee the only thought I had about it is that NG is already low pressure on your house. Adding a regulator might lower the pressure more. Test it, it might get a lower pressure shutoff with the propane regulator if it restricts too much of the already low pressure.
@@BryanHansen Thank you kind Sir. I have got an idea: In my propane regulator there is a long hose from it's outlet. to the carburetor. So I am going to buy a "Y" fitting. With two stop knobs. This would let the NG going after the propane. And the "Y" fitting would determine which is going thorough. You can see tha "Y" on Amazon. In that way, the NG would go straight to the Carb...when the Propane is stopped. And vicy versa when the NG is stopped; it goes through the propane regulator. I can't wait. And I owe it all to you. when You said in the beginning of yur video. That we do NOT need a regulator of a home NG. Because they have ALREADY regulated. Thanks. kind Sir. I believe this will work to make my Generator a TRI-Fuel Whoopee! Wow! I will let you know IF it works or doesn't.
I was going to purchase one at Costco yesterday, they were on sale for around $900.00. My question is: how hard is it to get parts as well as where to get maintenance work done on it , when the time comes ?
I wouldn’t run it on gasoline unless you plan on doing so fairly regularly. Gas goes bad and gums up the carburetor. I’m using mine solely for my home as backup so I’m trying to never put gas in it.
You'll get more power with gas. But the ethanol in the gasoline will degrade parts in the generator. I would recommend only using propane or natural gas.
Find non ethanol gasoline if you can. That alone has a shelf life of half a year or so but regular pump gas will be fine too. Then get a bottle of Sta-Bil for $10 and add however much you need for the ratio of fuel. This will extend the shelf life to 2 years so that the generator will be ready to rock in case of an outage. After using it for an outage run it with fuel shut off switch on until it shuts off and there is no more gasoline in carburetor. Easy peasy and far more convenient and powerful to use gasoline anyway during an outage unless you want to get a 500 lb propane tank installed or just so happen to have a natural gas line.
@@kitchentrout5867 Tell that to the Honda generator I had that is now ruined after one year. Literally 91 octane ethanol free with sta-bil in it. The whole storing gas thing sounds great in theory until it’s not. I am using natural gas because I do have a line right to my house. I also have propane tanks as well. And in the event that neither of those are feasible I can run gas in it. Rather than store it I would siphon it out of my car or use what I have on hand after the first two options are no longer available.
are you happy with the TO7573? Im trying to decide between that one, the TO7571 and the TO8071.. and now there is a TO9725 all about the same price now on sale 25%off
@@BryanHansen eureka ! got the unit today.. put the wheels,put the oil, hooked up the gas,, started right up!! Thanks to all you and all the folks who helped me with this!
@Bryan Hansen hello sir. I am new to owning a generator and I found this video extremely helpful. I bought this same generator from Costco and I set it up today. While reading the comments to learn more, I saw your comment about keeping a Noco tender charger attached for the battery. Can you please take a moment and explain how to properly use this charger on this generator? For example, when the generator is not in use, do you keep this charger plugged into the wall and attached to the generator battery to keep it charged at all times? Also, do you keep it attached when you start it up and while using the generator? Lastly, I know the Noco says it can be used in various modes depending on the battery voltage size and type of battery it is. Do you know what size and type this battery is so I can put it in the correct mode? Sorry for such a large comment. Thank you very much for your time and Thank you for the great informative video.
I would buy the smallest Noco battery tender that I could for this one. It seems like you might be looking at some of the higher end ones, butt this one amzn.to/3lBk7Zn can be permanently mounted to the generator if you want and then just leave it plugged in. You can leave it plugged in when you start it, it doesn't matter. I would leave this on it most or all of the time if you want the battery to be topped off when you go to use it. I personally charge mine up every few weeks and take it off, but not for any reason other than just leaving it on all the time. This generator is purely for emergencies and I have a jump box too so making sure the battery is always charged isn't a huge concern of mine, but that being said, I do have that 2 amp charger on it and plug it in about once every 8 weeks for a day or two. That 2 amp chooses the correct settings for you since it is a trickle charge.
Mine won’t stay on consistently and it’s brand new, added the required oil, and added gas that was only a month and a half old, it starts up and runs and then bogs and sputters and picks back up again until it bogs and then cuts off, it’s brand new! What’s wrong??
I got it for 699, but I do still think it’s good at 899. They’re going to be hard to come by after hurricane Ian and just the winter months in general.
@@BryanHansen they way a main panel is wired all the neutrals and grounds are connected together by design. So if your connected to the main panel is not an issue. Also connecting neutral and ground together outside the main panel is a code violation. You can end up with the ground acting as neutral and it's a fire hazard.
Looks too "delicate" for me. I live in Florida and I have 3 older gennys. One is a fifteen year old Coleman. All Gas only and super-dependable. Sometimes 2 years between uses...but when I need them... they start....every time. I do a very close check of the units before they are carefully stored, ready for the next emergency.
I misspoke in the video @13:18 you can run the generator for 100 hours between oil changes AFTER the breakin period.
Is there a delivery service to Algeria?
Just used this video to assemble my Firman generator. It sat in my shed brand new in the box for a couple years before I got to it. Fired rite up on propane. Thank you.
Mines a firman duel fuel. Uses propane or gasoline. I had it for 5 yrs so far and never put any gasoline in it yet. I get mine out and run it on low load at least once a month or 2. I also have the little 1200 watt that runs on gasoline only. What I can't believe is all the crap going on today that's still depending on the government to save their bacon when the power goes out for a month or longer. And if it's over a year before power comes back on most people won't make it that long
I own one. Have had it for over a year. Very dependable. Runs all the time on NG. About 7 power failures. Lov it
Nice video. Just bought one from Costco today. Had a power outage 2 days ago for about four hours (Florida). Started getting real uncomfortable in this summer heat. Thanks for sharing the video of the setup. Will be very useful as I’m sure I’ll watch it a few more times before getting myself squared away.
I was about to order this generator and decided to find a setup video. Glad I did!
very helpful, thank you. i just wanted to add, when starting it put the choke on, be ready to move into the 'run' as it's about to turn over. if you let the generator stop, then try to start it on the when it's on 'run' (like in this video), it may cause a backfire. i learned this the hard way and it was loud as hell.
Appreciate your video on the setup and startup, thanks.
Very well done video. Straight to the point. Thank you. This video helped me.
Excellent video because - you got right to the point without more chatter, excellent instructions with visual and very informative with safety features. Just subbed. Thanks!!
Excellent video. Thanks for posting.
I have a Firman and it is run on my Propane for power outages and RV. Keep in mind the output for each of the 3 different fuel sources. I chose propane because if the whole neighborhood does natural gas, the supply from provider will drop drastically and then you have no natural gas. I have 2 - 20, 2 - 30 and 2 - 100 lbs tanks.
I have recently purchased this model from Costco store. This model's battery receives charging automatically while the generator is running. This information is indicated on page 33 of user manual.
Yes, but it has to be running. If you store it for 18 months. The battery will be dead
@@BryanHansenI think my batteries dead... Its been boxed for over a year now..
@@lalo80adams71 same, will be interesting to see how we’re gonna get it started when we need it🤣
@mark beshay Lmao Thanks for the reminder, il keep you updated on how that went..
You can still pull start it with a dead battery.
I was able to run my Lennox 3 ton central AC system on propane with this generator. I do not have an easy start kit installed on the AC system either.
Bought mine 2 years ago, just used it twice in the past 6 months by running extension cords.
Now I have installed the soft start kit ,but I hear it's not enough to run the generator on 4 tons a.c unit..
There are no videos to confirm it could run the 4 ton a.c unit .
I am thinking about purchasing the Duramax 15000 with a runtime 10000 watts to run the entire house.
Very well done video. Now I will purchase this generator.
Great video! Thank you for walking through the setup.
Wooow very well
Done. Thank you!
Thank you for sharing how you setup the generator. I followed step by step, on you went about it!
Really appreciate it!
Thanks so much for this video. I set this up with an interlock to my electrical panel. We'll see how it works when the winds come next month.
How did it end up doing?
I like my Firman Tri-Fuel a lot, especially during the Texas freeze and assorted power outages. The same 1/2" natural gas hose I bought had a 3/8" Female by 1/2" Male brass adapter to connect to the generator. It was too long (deep) on the female end and I had to sand it down so the flange in the adapter would seal against the LP gas fitting on the generator. The other end is a 1/2" male quick disconnect fitting which easily connects to the female fitting attached at the gas valve. I ended up installing a MB Sturgis Propane Elbow Adapter at the generator's 3/8" POL fitting. It is a 3/8" Female Flare Swivel x 3/8" Male Flare (Item # 204163) that I purchased from etrailer . Then I installed the 3/8" Female x 1/2" Male brass adapter there. I can plug the 240V 30A cable to the outlet which is connected to the house electrical panel. I have a 4-ton (46,000 BTU) A/C unit. I installed a Micro-Air EasyStart 368 (4-ton) Soft Starter ASY-368-X48-BLUE. My AC unit now uses 12.8 to 13.8 Amps and a Start Peak of 33 to 36 Amps. My UPS's seem to beep & click when connected to the generator. I have a stupid power strip plugged into the battery backup side of the UPS with items plugged into the strip. All I have to do is move one plug to the surge protector side. And then turn off UPS. Surge protector should still work.
Great explanation! I plan to do the same. How long is your 1/2” gas line ?
@@alanrodgers4156 24 feet long NG hose. The elbow adapter keeps the hose close to the generator and prevents tripping over the hose. Now it is easy to store the 1/2" NG hose on top of the tank.
Trying to line up the cable plug with the inlet at night? Take a marker or white-out and make a line on the plug & socket to line up the two before you twist it. Keep battery charged. Install emergency lights that come on when power goes out. Install them where you set up the generator, at the panel and maybe in the main hall of the house. Have an extra spark plug. Maintenance is easier when using natural gas to power the generator.
Great ideas! Really appreciate it.
I purchased couple of spark plugs from oreilly as spare.
I love your idea of marking it!
I have to figure out how long of gas line I need to get, since my generator inlet box is about 75’ away from where I plan to tap the gas.
Do you think 50’, 1/2” gas line might have significant loss? The The reason is because i plan to tap from the dryer gas line and my generator would be located about 50 feet away and then I will have 25 feet 50 amp extension cord to connect to my generator inlet box. I don’t know 50 ‘ gas line and 25’ feet extension line would be better or 25 feet gas line and 50’ feet extension cord to the generator inlet would be more efficient?
@@alanrodgers4156 Not knowledgeable about the gas line length. You will have to research. 50 amp cord? The generator puts out 31.25A at the 50A outlet (page 6 of the manual). You can find a chart for amps, wire size and distance somewhere on the internet.
No worries. Thank you very much!
You, sir, are appreciated 😊
Amazing video good questions and answers, Thank you very very much.
Amazing vidéo ! I will buy one tomorrow Thanks a lot ! Sylvain from Montreal Canada
They were $699 US at costco this week down here. Hope they have them on sale for you up there!
You are only required to change the oil every 100 hours, after the initial 25 hour break-in.
That is true after the break-in. I believe I said every 25 hours and it’s every hundred hours after the 25 hour break in
THIS GENERATOR WORKS LIKE A CHAMP! WORKHORSE, STARTED ON FIRST PULL, USED FOR 10 HOURS AND ONLY USED 1/2 TANK! .....HERE'S THE NEGATIVE ASPECT, VERY LOUD!!!! LOUD, OTHERWISE I RECOMMEND THIS 100% GREAT GENERATOR ♡ JUST LOUD!
Awesome video, thanks for posting!
costco has one for 699. Nice job, tks
I have installed on my home a Generac transfer switch from my 16KW that cratered years ago. Do you think I could wire the Firman into the power lines that are left from the Generac (generator to transfer switch) and be able to use the Firman? I plan on using the natural gas line that was used to supply the natural gas to the Generac.
Definitely. Just need to limit the appliances you run down to that wattage.
great video - would love an update! And would like to see the natural gas set-up as that's my plan...
@@idsullymichaels I will get one put together. It is a really slick set up.
If I’m running it and using strictly extension cords do I connect the cord it comes with then connect my extension cords to that?
You can connect them however you want. Makes no real difference.
Hello. Do you know if the battery self charges or if a trickle charger is needed to keep a fully charged battery? Thank you for your time.
It will charge while running, but I keep a Noco tender on mine: amzn.to/3BrICNz
@Bryan Hansen hello sir. I am new to owning a generator and I found this video extremely helpful. I bought this same generator from Costco and I set it up today. While reading the comments to learn more, I saw your comment about keeping a Noco tender charger attached for the battery. Can you please take a moment and explain how to properly use this charger on this generator? For example, when the generator is not in use, do you keep this charger plugged into the wall and attached to the generator battery to keep it charged at all times? Also, do you keep it attached when you start it up and while using the generator? Lastly, I know the Noco says it can be used in various modes depending on the battery voltage size and type of battery it is. Do you know what size and type this battery is so I can put it in the correct mode? Sorry for such a large comment. Thank you very much for your time and Thank you for the great informative video.
It charges itself while the generator is running, but I the it would be better to buy the trickle charger.
Excellent video and I just bought one!
Here in Texas, we had a bad winter storm in Feb 2021. Over 246 people perished, probably more than all of Canada in the same timeframe. I bought a Firman tri-fuel, luckily on sale at the local Costco. I run it for 30-45 minutes monthly/month and a half. My concern is the question of how clean is the electricity produced. Do I need to buy some kind of plug to clean the electricity? To plug into the house outlet feeding my computers, tvs, micro-wave. Would need 4 or 5 if they are sold. Can't find such a product on Amazon. Just don't know the product name, if it exists. Would appreciate greatly any info you may provide. Thanks.
Also, looking to install a soft-start on my 3.5 ton AC. Afraid our electric grid is so-so and summers are as hot and could get deadly as winter cold.
Dont have to change oil that much last one i had in 2018 ran it nonstop for years had over 900 hours never changed the oil .still running strong
Just because you can doesn’t mean you should
Every 100 hours just like the manual suggests
Excellent video! Best I’ve seen yet on this generator! Thanks so much. Did you use an inverter so power is clean power?
To my knowledge, and I can be mistaken here, the generlink that I am using is supposed to clean it up
@@BryanHansen I don't think it's clean power.
@@Asidebarthis is the list of recommended generators from Generlink: www.generlink.com/files/138783526.pdf
It should be noted that the generator will only pull start in the GAS mode of operation. " If the battery is not able to start the engine, it can be started manually
only in the GAS position by pulling the engine recoil cord." From the owner's manual.
First, thanks for the very detailed video! I picked up this generator in February 2021. Never owned or used one before. I’m a bit confused based on my owners manual and your video and now your comments here. I’m under the impression if the battery is dead you must pull start the generator and only with gasoline but in your video it clearly looks like you’re pull starting with either LP or NG based on the fuel selector knob. Can you ( or anyone) clear this ip for me?
@@samh9072 I was thinking the same thing
I just bought this generator and I can start it with the recoil on NG mode. Just tried it now.
@@LL-mt2nz i actually can as well. Originally their documentation said it was not an option, but it definitely works for me.
@@BryanHansen your vid was a huge help thanks
Question...
Do you have to put the choke lever to run, not choke, when starting with propane?
Pretty sure I still choked it. I can try it again though.
@@BryanHansen it's still in its box but I have all a need to assemble it. I even bought 5W30 synthetic oil because I live up North. I have watched several TH-cam videos. One guy had problems starting it with propane when he set the choke lever to choke. It started and stop. Anyway I will see what happens. Thanks for your reply...
Nice generator. I have a dual fuel inverter generator but it would be nice to have a trifuel inverter since where I live, the NG is connected to the house. That way, I don't need to go to a place to get fuel that might not get deliveries during a SHTF situation (I do have a Generac whole house genny but would like a backup since Generacs are pretty much crap)
I literally sold my other generators to do exactly this.
Do you use a 1/2” or 3/8” gas hose for the natural gas option? My home connection is the 3/8”?
@@LL-mt2nz I think either would work as long as the fitting matches. You can adjust flow with the house or genny valve.
Does the battery need to be connected when using the manual pull start?
To be honest, the owners manual has been inconsistent on the wording regarding this. It actually says it will only pull start in gasoline mode and I believe it says that the battery needs to be connected. But I have pull started it on LPG and it worked fine. I have NOT tried it without the battery, but I believe it will work. I will try it and let you know.
First of all you did a great video you explained a lot one question I have is I bought it left it in the box for five months because I didn’t need it but it was on sale I built it started it with propane and it wouldn’t stay running is it because it detected a gas leak? Do you have any recommendations what to do?
Did you buy it from Costco? I think you have a year to exchange it.
This generator can use all the necessary energy power gas,lpg,and natural gas. The firman manufacturer put it there for our choice. Just do the proper check up maintenance and this generator will run properly.
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I read people complaining about the loud noise this Firman T07571 unit makes. My main concern more than the noise is dirty power it apparently provides. At 11%-14% THD, I'm concerned electronics will get damaged. Anyone have comments/opinions on this point?
In my research most "noise" about dirty power are from people who don't own the unit and "think" it won't work well. The THD means it isn't as efficient, not that it is supplying horrible power. Every single person I know that has run this generator and ran it in a whole home scenario like I am has nothing but good things to say about it. This was one of the preferred generators for a generlink transfer switch. I should note that there wasn't a single Honda generator on that list. Honda being the gold standard that everyone seems to hold everybody else to, doesn't even have a model to run with their transfer switch.
@@BryanHansen Hello Bryan and thanks for your reply and this info. I saw a comment from a guy who did own this unit and said his lights would flicker when he used it and his UPS devices kept switching over to battery power as if the supplied power was not good enough for it. The unit seems great, it's just this issue I am trying to educate myself on and be careful about because the last thing any of us want are circuit/control boards on PCs/TVs/Refrigerators/Washing machines/etc getting slowly damaged all over the place. Again, I'm just trying to learn the facts from those who know so I can make a good decision. Thanks
@@utrutr6013 That sounds like a specific problem to him if you want my opinion on it
We own a Predator 9000/7250 gasoline generator that I converted to Tr-fuel. It is a non-invertor generator. It is our whole home backup power source. With over 80 hrs. run time of testing, not one electronic device has been damaged.
@@BryanHansen How can you be so ignorant?
Do you have any videos on how to do maintenance on it ?
Not yet. Stay tuned.
Do you have to ground your generator if you use the 50Amp plug.?
It bonds through the generlink.
I'm no expert but I believe the generator ground lug is only for running the machine independently of your house. If you connect it to your panel you need to follow the manufacturer directions to convert the generator to a floating neutral because the machine will use your panels earth ground.
Oh and no choke needed on lpg or natural gas from everything I've learned.
Depends if you need a bonded or non bonded connection. Some furnace controllers need a bonded connection. If running a transfer switch it should used the house ufer ground. If using it through an extension cord to a furnace (emergency situation) you will likely need to use the ground lug.
@@shanwar9844 Not correct. You still use the choke for the NG or LPG operation. "NOTICE When the main fuel selector switch is turned to the LPG/NG position, the indicator light
will turn RED for up to 4 minutes (before going off). Starting the engine successfully anytime
during the 4 minutes will turn the indicator light GREEN. See Indicator light-Battery Power Saving
Mode section for more information.
7. Disconnect all electrical loads from the generator. Never start or stop the generator with
electrical devices plugged in.
8. Move choke lever located on engine to “START” position" (for electric start jump to step 12)
12. For electric start only - Flip the engine switch to the START (ll) position for a few seconds and
then release.
13. For electric start only - Move the choke lever to the RUN position.
3 sec.
14. Allow portable generator to run at no load for a few minutes to stabilize before plugging in
any electrical devices
I just bought this generator and I'm about to use it on propane for the first time. Do you know how many hrs per gallon of propane can I get roughly?
LPG burns at about 1 gal per hour at 50% load. So a 5 gallons (20L) Propane tank will last you 5-6 hours at 50% load
So quick question. What can you power with such a generator?
Furnace, fridge, most of a house under low load…
I will be using your video when I assemble mine in a few days. Question... Why the owner manual says to use only a 20 pound capacity propane tank or less?
Honestly not sure. It shouldn’t matter since there is a pressure regulator anyway.
@@BryanHansen Thanks.
Answer from Firman...
You can use a larger tank but you have to have the LPG fitting switched to match a larger tank and ensure the pressure will be between .9 - 1 PSI going into the generator
@@mpierrela unless we are talking about 100 gallon tank or larger, the fitting is the same for an 80 down to a five. The regulator will still regulate the same pressures.
Great Video.
BTW, CO (Carbon Monoxide) is lighter than air.
CO² (Carbon Dioxide) is heavier than air.
Have you had any communications with FIRMAN about this product. I recently was advised by FIRMAN that extending the exhaust pipe or installing the Generator in an enclosure would VOID my warranty. Any advise on this?
I haven’t. But if I am going to be running it, it will definitely be outside. My set up might be a little different than yours.
Bryan, Thank you so much! This was perfect. We just bought this model for our home on Maui. We did not lose our home by the grace of God but we are in the fire zone on the West side of Maui and need to be ready for what comes. Anxious to get off work and set this up on our plumbed propane. Question, what do you recommend for bringing the generator closer to items I want to power. I have two ports on the house to connect to propane and was wondering if you would buy more connecting hose or just more power cables. I would appreciate your thoughts. Thank you and god bless. Chris from Maui. Aloha and Mahalo a nui noi!
Hey Chris, glad you were saved! That was so disheartening to watch. I would absolutely move the generator closer what you want to power rather than run more extension cords to what you want to power. The propane line will carry enough pressure to the generator, the power lines on the other hand, lose efficiency over a longer run.
@@BryanHansen thank you! Do you have any suggestions for what kind of propane line to buy?
@@cfittit comes with a short one. If you wanted a longer one, I would honestly go to a hose supply shop. Central Maui Propane will likely build them or point you to who can. That being said, I installed this one: amzn.to/3E34vTU and you could use the regulator you have or if your whole house is regulated, just install this hose at the location. Nice thing about it, it is a quick disconnect.
@@BryanHansen thank you so very much!
@@cfittyou bet!
Very nice, any upgrade over the older blue model? 7571 vs 7573
They are basically the same machine
Only difference is this gray one has clear plastic covers over the switches
The gray model have CO sensor auto shut off the generator if there are high level Carbon monoxide if you run in garage or confined space.
-Kind Sir, I just bought a new Westinghouse WGen9500DF Generator. And its regulator is on the face of the generator. And you must connect the Propane to this regulator. Now I want to use natural Gas too. So, where would I put the connector; if I do it? And would it damage the Propane Regulator; if I connect the NG to the Propane Regulator inlet?
I really want to use the NG gas. Thanks kind Sir if you can tell me WHERE the NG connects to the Generator. Or must I buy an "Adapter" installed on the carburetor? But I do NOT need a regulator; what all others are doing. O yes.
The Westinghouse is a Dual Fuel, not a tri fuel. I don't think you can run that on NG.
@@BryanHansen Well they do it all the time. So I'm thinking that we could connect the NG in the inlet on the propane regulator. Thanks for your reply.
@@MrPatdeeee the only thought I had about it is that NG is already low pressure on your house. Adding a regulator might lower the pressure more. Test it, it might get a lower pressure shutoff with the propane regulator if it restricts too much of the already low pressure.
@@BryanHansen Thank you kind Sir. I have got an idea: In my propane regulator there is a long hose from it's outlet. to the carburetor. So I am going to buy a "Y" fitting. With two stop knobs.
This would let the NG going after the propane. And the "Y" fitting would determine which is going thorough. You can see tha "Y" on Amazon. In that way, the NG would go straight to the Carb...when the Propane is stopped.
And vicy versa when the NG is stopped; it goes through the propane regulator. I can't wait. And I owe it all to you. when You said in the beginning of yur video. That we do NOT need a regulator of a home NG. Because they have ALREADY regulated.
Thanks. kind Sir. I believe this will work to make my Generator a TRI-Fuel Whoopee! Wow! I will let you know IF it works or doesn't.
I was going to purchase one at Costco yesterday, they were on sale for around $900.00. My question is: how hard is it to get parts as well as where to get maintenance work done on it , when the time comes ?
If you are in the US, wait, I see them for 799 all the time.
Easy maintenance and easy parts access.
@@BryanHansen $699 in store if you can find them
Is it a good idea to just run it on gasoline? You said something about fuel stabilizer? Is it more maintenance running on gasoline?
I wouldn’t run it on gasoline unless you plan on doing so fairly regularly. Gas goes bad and gums up the carburetor. I’m using mine solely for my home as backup so I’m trying to never put gas in it.
@@BryanHansen thank you for your feedback. Will definitely consider it.
You'll get more power with gas. But the ethanol in the gasoline will degrade parts in the generator. I would recommend only using propane or natural gas.
Find non ethanol gasoline if you can. That alone has a shelf life of half a year or so but regular pump gas will be fine too. Then get a bottle of Sta-Bil for $10 and add however much you need for the ratio of fuel. This will extend the shelf life to 2 years so that the generator will be ready to rock in case of an outage. After using it for an outage run it with fuel shut off switch on until it shuts off and there is no more gasoline in carburetor. Easy peasy and far more convenient and powerful to use gasoline anyway during an outage unless you want to get a 500 lb propane tank installed or just so happen to have a natural gas line.
@@kitchentrout5867 Tell that to the Honda generator I had that is now ruined after one year. Literally 91 octane ethanol free with sta-bil in it. The whole storing gas thing sounds great in theory until it’s not. I am using natural gas because I do have a line right to my house. I also have propane tanks as well. And in the event that neither of those are feasible I can run gas in it. Rather than store it I would siphon it out of my car or use what I have on hand after the first two options are no longer available.
Is there a screw to adjust Hz?
Not that I have seen, but let me look closer
@@BryanHansen I’m running 62.5Hz. Tv’s and electronics seem to be fine so I’m not too worried about it
are you happy with the TO7573? Im trying to decide between that one, the TO7571 and the TO8071.. and now there is a TO9725 all about the same price now on sale 25%off
I’ve loved it. The 9725 would be nice with the extra wattage, but keep in mind needs a bigger supply line to pull that wattage.
@Bryan Hansen true. I don't want to go through that again. Lol Thanks
@@BryanHansen ok i pulled the trigger.. ordered the TO7573 wish me luck.
bought their 25 ft ng hose from them as well.. ill let you know how it goes..
@@johngraziano6652 I think you will be happy!
@@BryanHansen eureka ! got the unit today.. put the wheels,put the oil, hooked up the gas,, started right up!! Thanks to all you and all the folks who helped me with this!
Any idea how long a full propane tank can stay?
Depends on the propane tank size.
@Bryan Hansen hello sir. I am new to owning a generator and I found this video extremely helpful. I bought this same generator from Costco and I set it up today. While reading the comments to learn more, I saw your comment about keeping a Noco tender charger attached for the battery. Can you please take a moment and explain how to properly use this charger on this generator? For example, when the generator is not in use, do you keep this charger plugged into the wall and attached to the generator battery to keep it charged at all times? Also, do you keep it attached when you start it up and while using the generator? Lastly, I know the Noco says it can be used in various modes depending on the battery voltage size and type of battery it is. Do you know what size and type this battery is so I can put it in the correct mode? Sorry for such a large comment. Thank you very much for your time and Thank you for the great informative video.
I would buy the smallest Noco battery tender that I could for this one. It seems like you might be looking at some of the higher end ones, butt this one amzn.to/3lBk7Zn can be permanently mounted to the generator if you want and then just leave it plugged in. You can leave it plugged in when you start it, it doesn't matter. I would leave this on it most or all of the time if you want the battery to be topped off when you go to use it. I personally charge mine up every few weeks and take it off, but not for any reason other than just leaving it on all the time. This generator is purely for emergencies and I have a jump box too so making sure the battery is always charged isn't a huge concern of mine, but that being said, I do have that 2 amp charger on it and plug it in about once every 8 weeks for a day or two. That 2 amp chooses the correct settings for you since it is a trickle charge.
@@BryanHansen hey Brian, where did you mount this charger? did you?
@@johngraziano6652 I mounted these cables permanently. amzn.to/41MHG0K and then just leave this charger loose: amzn.to/43WjNW8
Mine won’t stay on consistently and it’s brand new, added the required oil, and added gas that was only a month and a half old, it starts up and runs and then bogs and sputters and picks back up again until it bogs and then cuts off, it’s brand new! What’s wrong??
Are you running it on gas or propane or natural gas?
Gasoline@@BryanHansen
@@Pfillwieffer try running some seafoam through it. amzn.to/3vRsF2L
Make sure your choke isn’t on too
Even though it’s brand new? Also yeah I made sure after start up to put my choke to the run position. Thanks for the tips
Quick question did this generator take the whole quart of oil or half? About to unbox one and was watching your video it has been very helpful
Going off of memory, but I think it took all the oil that it came with.
"That is your ground" Great, what do we do with it?
Not here to give electrical advice, but depending on your configuration you will either need to ground your generator or bond it.
How much did you pay for this generator? It’s $899 at Costco now, would you buy it at that price point?
I got it for 699, but I do still think it’s good at 899. They’re going to be hard to come by after hurricane Ian and just the winter months in general.
Once again, I’ve seen this just as a propane and lpg gas line review. Great vid but try the gas option?
All three options work. I did not want to put gas in it because I want to use this as an emergency back up.
Nice Video Sir, how did it hold after you have it for over 1yr… Thinking about updating my 3650W Firman.
It has been great. Less power on LNG than gasoline, but definitely served my needs well. Runs very clean.
If your back feeding your panel the neutral and ground are connected anyway.
Using the Generlink I installed it is bonded and not a true back feed.
@@BryanHansen they way a main panel is wired all the neutrals and grounds are connected together by design. So if your connected to the main panel is not an issue. Also connecting neutral and ground together outside the main panel is a code violation. You can end up with the ground acting as neutral and it's a fire hazard.
@@mp-xt2rg I think we’re saying the same thing
What is the capacity of this generator?
I list all the capacities in the video
@@BryanHansen I wanted to buy one, but I don't think delivery to Algeria is available.
Did you connect it to natural gas? I just ordered one just like yours. I plan on hooking it to natural gas as well. Thanks for the video.
I did! I am waiting two days to record the final video of me flipping the switch to test the house out on it.
I imagine it would run a lot cleaner if you're running Nat Gas or Propane.
Definitely does
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Looks too "delicate" for me. I live in Florida and I have 3 older gennys. One is a fifteen year old Coleman. All Gas only and super-dependable. Sometimes 2 years between uses...but when I need them... they start....every time. I do a very close check of the units before they are carefully stored, ready for the next emergency.
What is “delicate” in your opinion. Having just had a Honda die on me, I’m more than impressed with this so far.
@@BryanHansen oh… it’s nice but I have concerns about the carb/regulator and the really proprietary control panel.
@@goobfilmcast4239? Ok.
Drop it twice to make sure you have done it right”. 😂😂😂😂😂
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Nope CO carbon monoxide is slightly lighter than air and diffuses evenly throughout your garage