Nice. Got my Jean Bart B in the Black Friday event 2021 and was very sceptic about her. Got Sims, Loyang, Scharnhorst, Dunkerque and Alaska in black, too. All out of the 25 containers i purchased, so it was a great deal for me. But i was sceptical about Jean Bart because Richelieu was just bad and hard to play, no matter how i tried, she often lost 1 or in a few battles both main turrets.This went better when i took the preventive skill that protects modules, a must-have skill in my eyes. Jean Bart B was a surprise, sometimes RNG trolls her, but when not, then she scored good hits. But the battles were often too short to deal much damage with her, there was a time when most high-tier battles were short, not longer than 10 minutes. This was the first time i switched back to tier 4 - 7, having much more fun than in higher tiers. But in the few battles i played with Jean Bart B she performed well.
Im lucky you love Mass so much; I've learned a lot. As a DD main, i need all the tips and tricks for surviving in a big pig. Also I really appreciate the drop rates. Opened a Mass B(😀) and Loyang B(🤮) last week in our free BF containers.
JB is my most played ship, despite not having played it much in the last couple of years. In it's hay day, it was amazing. I ran it as a secondary ship where I skirted away while peppering them from behind and firing over my shoulder. Worked like a charm until new ships came around. I had games surrounded by 3 full health bbs at close range and came out on top. So yeah, can be a great ship. At one point I would have said best ship in the game. Now days, not so much, but still great (when it's firing on all cylinders).
At this time, I don't normally outright buy tier IX ships--but another YT creator strongly suggested to get the JB B "while you can" and I did. Glad to see this video after.
Not sure why but the Jean Bart has a higher drop chance probably the highest if the t9 black ships, I bought 10x crates on 3 accounts and got it on all 3
JB is awesome fun to play. The combo of speed boost, reload booster, French shell ballistics, and sneaky good French HE makes the JB pretty much always useful. Hell, the AA is even pretty spicy...especially if you take the 2 point AA captain skill.
Got the Jean Bart B and Asashio B in the event pass Big Crates last night. Sequential budle for Munchen B also got the the Black B from those crates. Bought the Massa B for moneys. Then decided on getting the 25 big crates and got Brisbane, Atago and Cossack B. Pretty satisfied with that haul.
Back 2 years ago during Christmas I got the JB and thought meh. but after playing it for a month I fell in love with it. so its nice to see you also start to enjoy the ship because it can be so fun. it quickly one of my fav ships in the game
There is another reason to shoot AP at DDs. AP overpens are not effected by saturation mechanics. If a DD, especially French DD, is below saturated, AP shells can actually do more damage.
Yes it is. It drives me nuts that tubers for some reason keep comparing the playstyle to Burger despite it being completely different, they should compare it to Richelieu's playstyle with added MBRB instead.
I've enjoyed my JBB for a few years now. Even though the fire chance isn't huge, I always seem get more fires with it than other BB's with same chance. Also, that AP can slap in many situations. Not great vs Tier 11, but I still like it. Edit to add that WG flips that "good guns" switch on the month before Black Friday and then turns it off on New Years Day.
I remember my first game with JB very well... the very first shot was a dev strike and since them im in love with it, french BBs in general actually(not the shit ones ofc) Bourgogne is one of those "i got a bad day ships" for me... they just work, not every salvo ofc but overall they are great. Some "anti power creep" actions would be nice though on WGs side of the table😅
Jean Bart is my go to tier 9 ranked BB. It performs like a beast every battle. On paper it's not much to look at, but in practice it's amazing. The credit farming is great as well.
They should buff the turrets survavibility a bit I feel. In closer ranges I feel like anything with bug guns can be quite certain that they can put JB guns (temporarily) out of order.
I remember when JB first came out and nobody knew what to expect from it, basically stormed through the entire enemy team, loved it! It's a bit of a glass cannon but it's just lots of fun, to be fair it was a few years ago when T9 was worth it. Bourgone is fun too but suffers from all the other Tier Xs being around and superships. To me JB plays alot like a Desmoines (or at least like I desmoines used to!)
I got her from a container, and I was so excited because of all her hype. Then I played her and was pretty underwhelmed with the guns. I have only gotten the shotgun version of these guns and they seam to miss broadside at 8km.
Jean Bart secondary spec before the commander rework was so much fun. that got nerfed but still a very good ship, you've been asleep at the wheel there PQ
I have always loved JB. I know it isnt 'meta' anymore, and can get cooked to a crisp if she comes under heavy HE fire/CV focus, but personally, I have always done really well with it.
destroying the Turrets of a JB was a valid Tactic people discovered pretty fast back in the Days^^ *edit* yeah no, nowhere close to the Power she had. I mean, even 12.9 Conseal was a Deal back then.
You should really give Georgia a try. Sure it has only six guns, but they're American and they slap hard. Accuracy is also lovely and it does well with credit farming too! Also, I fought many JBs in my Georgia during the previous TIX brawls and trolling JB by breaking its guns was hilarious xD
I am an olde school JB enjoyer... but she is very match maker dependent now. it can get HE spammed down very easily. She can be very good still but if you get it beware you can get smashed down fast with the wrong Match Maker... especially late nights.
Just got her and thought it was good for brawling but I was wrong 😅. I’m kind of new and got pretty lucky on the free codes somehow got 16k doubloons, spent some for 10 containers and got Yoshino, Cossack and Atago the leftover doubloons on battlepass and got her at the last premium container there im hoping to learn a lot more from your videos!
I have love hate relationship with Jean Bart. Sometime you just smash everything. I even double citadel yamato from 24km once and one of my highest damage is on this ship. On the other hand this ship can just make you mad so much with how trolly it can be. I got overpen so many times and sometime even no hit at all on stationary broadside ship
@@schinbone0 Oh, come on! I also spotted that sight in PQ's video and kept asking for the name until he finally shared it, so I'm just passing it along.
Jean Bart is hit or miss for me. Get it in a T9 game with no CV and good dispersion and it dominates. But in top tier against a CV player that knows to chase you out of your island camping ground plus a few bad dispersion roles and it feels weak, very weak.
I was toying with the idea of picking this up ... but here in Australia it's $100 on sale .... the Brisbane is $180 on sale. What the fuck are you smoking Wargaming??? nothing in your entire game is worth more than $30
JB is my most played ship and actually my record dmg was in it 340k. Due to superships now, unfortunately I rarely play it, thanks wg for ruining T9 :)
I would agree, with a caveat. If you enjoy this game, theres nothing really like it. WG are scum, truly the scummiest form of game devs out there. Still, if you like the game, Id rec getting a decent collection of the BF gambling boxes. I was pleasantly surprised to get a Alaska (already have it) and a Napoli from 25 boxes. So $99 got me a bunch of flags and two expensive ships.
Jean Bart was always fun back in the day, but the guns are so annoying. Drunk goggles and shotgun dispersion. Also recall having issues with BBs C'est la vie.
Even though i really like jb, my recommendation is to not spend any money on this ship ever. Back when t9 was the best tier in terms of matchmaking it was amazing. Nowadays 9 out of 10 games you get thrown into supership matchmaker and it just sucks. Every now and then i have a good game in it but majority of matches just suck
@banhbaothit1629 possible but i dont really care too much about credits. I like to have a good time playing a ship which is difficult for any t9 (except musashi) in t11 matches
As long as you have been playing this game you haven't figured out ships they run on sale or are rare to get amazingly play so much better then after sale go back to where they were?
Ain’t both Jean Barts the same in every way and if so why spend all that money on another ship that is the same as the original ship the only thing that you are getting is black armor. I already own the Jean Bart so why buy the ship again just to have the black color armor?
It's because not everyone has a JB and the regular version isn't available anymore. The only way to get a JB is to pay for a JB B during the Black Friday event.
@ I have the original JB I bought it when it first came out for $77 and I remember one battle where a Yamato took out the JB with 2 shots under the front 2 turrets on the JB. And 90% of the time I use my JB I’m always targeted by the enemy in 5 to1 odds and I’m like there are other ships on my team lol.
Daring PQ to not change his opinion on a ship for the 739471949 time level impossible:
😂
Death, Taxes, and “I might have been wrong…”
You should have a "I was wrong" playlist... lol
"Lord, I apologize" should be the name of a separate playlist.
"I Was Wrong About Alaska" when?
The cycle repeats
Nice. Got my Jean Bart B in the Black Friday event 2021 and was very sceptic about her. Got Sims, Loyang, Scharnhorst, Dunkerque and Alaska in black, too. All out of the 25 containers i purchased, so it was a great deal for me. But i was sceptical about Jean Bart because Richelieu was just bad and hard to play, no matter how i tried, she often lost 1 or in a few battles both main turrets.This went better when i took the preventive skill that protects modules, a must-have skill in my eyes. Jean Bart B was a surprise, sometimes RNG trolls her, but when not, then she scored good hits. But the battles were often too short to deal much damage with her, there was a time when most high-tier battles were short, not longer than 10 minutes. This was the first time i switched back to tier 4 - 7, having much more fun than in higher tiers. But in the few battles i played with Jean Bart B she performed well.
Im lucky you love Mass so much; I've learned a lot. As a DD main, i need all the tips and tricks for surviving in a big pig. Also I really appreciate the drop rates. Opened a Mass B(😀) and Loyang B(🤮) last week in our free BF containers.
If you can play a DD, a BB is incredibly easy. Everything happens at a bout 1/10th the speed.
JB is my most played ship, despite not having played it much in the last couple of years. In it's hay day, it was amazing. I ran it as a secondary ship where I skirted away while peppering them from behind and firing over my shoulder. Worked like a charm until new ships came around. I had games surrounded by 3 full health bbs at close range and came out on top. So yeah, can be a great ship. At one point I would have said best ship in the game. Now days, not so much, but still great (when it's firing on all cylinders).
At this time, I don't normally outright buy tier IX ships--but another YT creator strongly suggested to get the JB B "while you can" and I did. Glad to see this video after.
I paid $24 for the five crates first crate I opened had a Jean bart B in it
Same here, I ended up with it and the Napoli. I feel like they will now never let me win anything nice again lol
Not sure why but the Jean Bart has a higher drop chance probably the highest if the t9 black ships, I bought 10x crates on 3 accounts and got it on all 3
JB is awesome fun to play. The combo of speed boost, reload booster, French shell ballistics, and sneaky good French HE makes the JB pretty much always useful. Hell, the AA is even pretty spicy...especially if you take the 2 point AA captain skill.
Got the Jean Bart B and Asashio B in the event pass Big Crates last night. Sequential budle for Munchen B also got the the Black B from those crates. Bought the Massa B for moneys. Then decided on getting the 25 big crates and got Brisbane, Atago and Cossack B. Pretty satisfied with that haul.
the thing with jean bart is u dont have to position ur rearturrets since u dont have any and anything showing broadside = reload booster and bye bye
Back 2 years ago during Christmas I got the JB and thought meh. but after playing it for a month I fell in love with it. so its nice to see you also start to enjoy the ship because it can be so fun. it quickly one of my fav ships in the game
There is another reason to shoot AP at DDs. AP overpens are not effected by saturation mechanics. If a DD, especially French DD, is below saturated, AP shells can actually do more damage.
Why Bourgonne? Isnt it the Sistership to richellieu?
Yup
Yes it is. It drives me nuts that tubers for some reason keep comparing the playstyle to Burger despite it being completely different, they should compare it to Richelieu's playstyle with added MBRB instead.
I've enjoyed my JBB for a few years now. Even though the fire chance isn't huge, I always seem get more fires with it than other BB's with same chance. Also, that AP can slap in many situations. Not great vs Tier 11, but I still like it.
Edit to add that WG flips that "good guns" switch on the month before Black Friday and then turns it off on New Years Day.
As a DM main I have always enjoyed JB. Even had a solo warrior in ranked with it :)
JB is a grossly op ship. Gotta get up close on broadsides and pressure people. Love this thing.
I remember my first game with JB very well... the very first shot was a dev strike and since them im in love with it, french BBs in general actually(not the shit ones ofc)
Bourgogne is one of those "i got a bad day ships" for me... they just work, not every salvo ofc but overall they are great.
Some "anti power creep" actions would be nice though on WGs side of the table😅
Do a secondary build. They absolutely slap. In ranked, kiting away, making cruisers chase you, they just melt.
Jean Bart is my go to tier 9 ranked BB. It performs like a beast every battle. On paper it's not much to look at, but in practice it's amazing. The credit farming is great as well.
They should buff the turrets survavibility a bit I feel. In closer ranges I feel like anything with bug guns can be quite certain that they can put JB guns (temporarily) out of order.
Not much of a BB player but I've done well in the JB and enjoyed it. Was surprised at your earlier opinion and am glad you upgraded it.
I remember when JB first came out and nobody knew what to expect from it, basically stormed through the entire enemy team, loved it! It's a bit of a glass cannon but it's just lots of fun, to be fair it was a few years ago when T9 was worth it. Bourgone is fun too but suffers from all the other Tier Xs being around and superships. To me JB plays alot like a Desmoines (or at least like I desmoines used to!)
I got her from a container, and I was so excited because of all her hype. Then I played her and was pretty underwhelmed with the guns. I have only gotten the shotgun version of these guns and they seam to miss broadside at 8km.
Jean Bart secondary spec before the commander rework was so much fun. that got nerfed but still a very good ship, you've been asleep at the wheel there PQ
Can you please play Kii. It's been in the game for quite a long time yet i have only seen it for 2 or 3 times. Really wanna see how it performs
It's used to be a good fire starter until they change the skill tree a bit to one version. I would say now only have 80% comparing the original.
i just got this from the black Friday case at the end of the battlepass, what do people recommend for the commander skills?
Here's hoping he does a Patrie Secondary build (with both concealment mod and commander skill), it's wild.
I've never been able to get this ship to work for me. Maybe I need to try it again
I got this as a drop in the free black friday crate in the battlepass...pretty happy
I appreciate the genuine comments and advises even for low level players like myself
I bet WG artificially boosts the stats of premium/sale ships during the periods up to and during the sales.
Picked this up from the last premium BP crate, it's definitely good!
I know Flambass really likes JB, prolly his favorite BB.
JB is consistently one of those ships that seem to always do well… in the hands of an experienced player. Whenever I face a JB I always assume that.
JB in any color was one of my favs.
I have always loved JB. I know it isnt 'meta' anymore, and can get cooked to a crisp if she comes under heavy HE fire/CV focus, but personally, I have always done really well with it.
well 2 box premium black friday box got azuma and jean bart XD yeah im happy
No way? You changed your mind? 😂
“Truly Mediocre ship” Wisconsin 😂
So Jean bart is more tanky than Bourgone? or both are the same?
I am happy to finally have the JB! My WR sucks with it so far but its super fun! I even managed to get a cit hit on a GK somehow :D
JB is a hell of a ship. Plays so much better than Richeleu and that's even a great ship.
destroying the Turrets of a JB was a valid Tactic people discovered pretty fast back in the Days^^
*edit* yeah no, nowhere close to the Power she had. I mean, even 12.9 Conseal was a Deal back then.
I was wondering why that first game felt familiar. I'm the enemy San Diego lol.
"I love the black ribbons" meanwhile... one black ribbon....
I wonder if WG have stealth buffed it?
I see what you did about the HP! :P
just bought 5 containers and got loyang b, cossack b and kearsage b. Had neither of them. LOL
maaan! Dont tell me I wasted my birthday money on Alaska!
How similar is the playstyle for JB and Brest.
So Jean Beart secondaries good or...?
I didin't know the JB wasn't a favourite for you, interesting. I guesss the 380's do have issues at 9, but I find its DPM is very nice.
What is the downside of real money vs Dubs, apart from some meagre handouts I´d say that 95% of the dubs I ever get are from buying with real money
At the same time, the sheer inconsistency in the behaviour of the same ship during different games is... concerning. Feels wrong
You should really give Georgia a try. Sure it has only six guns, but they're American and they slap hard. Accuracy is also lovely and it does well with credit farming too! Also, I fought many JBs in my Georgia during the previous TIX brawls and trolling JB by breaking its guns was hilarious xD
its trash. Karl Johan is the best T9 BB
@@ReDiR20 ur joking right
@@ReDiR20 Clueless.
@@EvoraGT430 and u stupid
I am an olde school JB enjoyer... but she is very match maker dependent now. it can get HE spammed down very easily. She can be very good still but if you get it beware you can get smashed down fast with the wrong Match Maker... especially late nights.
Just got her and thought it was good for brawling but I was wrong 😅. I’m kind of new and got pretty lucky on the free codes somehow got 16k doubloons, spent some for 10 containers and got Yoshino, Cossack and Atago the leftover doubloons on battlepass and got her at the last premium container there im hoping to learn a lot more from your videos!
Start training with the Dunkerque, it will make things easier to learn in mid tier. You will bypass many disappointments... 😅
@ it’s alright I’ve already learned the basics from a similar game called “Steel Ocean” 😁
JB is brilliant unless overmatch occurs like Musashi, Yamato, etc.
I bought it last year unfortunately, but now i dont regret any penny spend.(Tho my one cost was 59e)
I have love hate relationship with Jean Bart. Sometime you just smash everything. I even double citadel yamato from 24km once and one of my highest damage is on this ship. On the other hand this ship can just make you mad so much with how trolly it can be. I got overpen so many times and sometime even no hit at all on stationary broadside ship
Im glad I already have her.
The JB is one of the best ships in the game period
what is the crosshair mod?
Aslain`s modpack, Smart Horizon with spider
@@Lex_Morich you are the best!! thanks!!
@@schinbone0 Oh, come on! I also spotted that sight in PQ's video and kept asking for the name until he finally shared it, so I'm just passing it along.
@@Lex_Morich No sir, I reject that. Reasoning is that, you are the one who answered and I appreciate that. Thanks again.
@@schinbone0 Got it! Have a great day!
Who would've thought
Jean Bart is hit or miss for me. Get it in a T9 game with no CV and good dispersion and it dominates.
But in top tier against a CV player that knows to chase you out of your island camping ground plus a few bad dispersion roles and it feels weak, very weak.
I just got mine in a black container.
I was toying with the idea of picking this up ... but here in Australia it's $100 on sale .... the Brisbane is $180 on sale. What the fuck are you smoking Wargaming??? nothing in your entire game is worth more than $30
JB is my most played ship and actually my record dmg was in it 340k.
Due to superships now, unfortunately I rarely play it, thanks wg for ruining T9 :)
$90 for pixels is complete and utter bullshit. Sorry. There is no scenario in which this is a good purchase for the average person.
That's Canadian funds
I would agree, with a caveat. If you enjoy this game, theres nothing really like it. WG are scum, truly the scummiest form of game devs out there. Still, if you like the game, Id rec getting a decent collection of the BF gambling boxes. I was pleasantly surprised to get a Alaska (already have it) and a Napoli from 25 boxes. So $99 got me a bunch of flags and two expensive ships.
especially as this was a Coalship at her Start
Yea I do crates cause I just love the random chance on shit....
Kool noted and ignored
Poltava or FR25 next please :)
well, if you say borgone is the tier X jean bart, then i suppose im fine 17k steel in the bank atm.
Not many would say they was wrong.
Jean Bart was always fun back in the day, but the guns are so annoying. Drunk goggles and shotgun dispersion.
Also recall having issues with BBs
C'est la vie.
i wonder how many videos he has with the title "i was wrong about __"
i'd put it S tier in a "fun" tier list tho
JB is just so much fun
Glad I got JB back when you could buy it with coal.
I just got it from a contanier
and they don't stop coming and they don't stop coming and they don't stop coming and they don't stop coming
me when PQ changes his opinion lmao
Next up: So I was wrong about carriers!
I like JB so much I have 2.
Who cares if he changed his mind. We all change our minds about lots of ships.
Even though i really like jb, my recommendation is to not spend any money on this ship ever. Back when t9 was the best tier in terms of matchmaking it was amazing. Nowadays 9 out of 10 games you get thrown into supership matchmaker and it just sucks. Every now and then i have a good game in it but majority of matches just suck
Supership matchmaking is good if ur in jean bart, you can farm more credits
@banhbaothit1629 possible but i dont really care too much about credits. I like to have a good time playing a ship which is difficult for any t9 (except musashi) in t11 matches
PQ, how old are you? 😅
wrong about it, surely Jean Bart B wasnt only for cash for a reason
oh of course you were wrong, thers money to be made here.
Won that ship ...Not bad Not great
AGAIN?
So you base ur opinion on how dumb the red team is?
Still not worth the price. Jesus H Christ, Wargaming… 🙄
This ship from my stand point are well meh at best to gods what a heap at worse.
As long as you have been playing this game you haven't figured out ships they run on sale or are rare to get amazingly play so much better then after sale go back to where they were?
Ain’t both Jean Barts the same in every way and if so why spend all that money on another ship that is the same as the original ship the only thing that you are getting is black armor. I already own the Jean Bart so why buy the ship again just to have the black color armor?
some people dont have the original jean bart. if u do good for u you can ignore the black version
It's because not everyone has a JB and the regular version isn't available anymore. The only way to get a JB is to pay for a JB B during the Black Friday event.
@ I have the original JB I bought it when it first came out for $77 and I remember one battle where a Yamato took out the JB with 2 shots under the front 2 turrets on the JB. And 90% of the time I use my JB I’m always targeted by the enemy in 5 to1 odds and I’m like there are other ships on my team lol.