Build and Review: DIY Dual Mic Preamp (ESP P-66)

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 ต.ค. 2024
  • More DIY audio electronics, this time we're building the ESP Low Noise Balanced Mic Preamp from Elliott Sound Projects: sound-au.com/p...
    With my new audio interface I want to take advantage of all 6 analog inputs to record nice multitrack drum stems, so I'm adding 2 mic inputs with this preamp project. It's powered by 12V AC and should add two low-noise clean channels for dynamic microphones. I struggled mightily with this build so hopefully I can provide some insight to anyone else building this project!
    Here's the song I recorded for the demo at the end:
    • Kraak & Smaak - Don't ...

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  • @richardrgoodwin
    @richardrgoodwin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Best live 'magic smoke' capture I've seen in a while!

  • @4211Rob
    @4211Rob 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Excellent! As a woodworker, I always measure at least twice and as a circuit builder I check many more times. Also I like Linear Technologies LT1086 positive regulator over the lm317. However I love Li-ion batteries on a split rail. ESP is excellent. I have made his power amp and hope to do his preamp with tone controls next. Now if we can get more electricians to sing on TH-cam, I'd give that a thumbs up to that too:).
    Cheers, Rob

  • @searchiemusic
    @searchiemusic ปีที่แล้ว +3

    when you said 'you only need 4 mics for drums' i started sweating, i can barely manage 16 tracks on my reel to reel lmfao

  • @benridgway3686
    @benridgway3686 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I had to watch the magical smoke release three times. Normally I only get to see the results but not the process.

    • @extralifedisco
      @extralifedisco  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Took me by surprise! Wish I'd shot it in 120fps lol

  • @ToysForTheGods
    @ToysForTheGods 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really appreciate the video. I have only two things to add from my perspective. Motherboard stand offs are super cheap and you can usually just drill an appropriate hole and they will almost always cut their own threads. And I do plan on building this almost identical to what you have done here but with combo XLR output jacks instead of 1/4" just for versatility.

  • @uriel-heavensguardian8949
    @uriel-heavensguardian8949 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for sharing this! This was an awesome watch!

  • @GeoffBosco
    @GeoffBosco 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    “Four preamps should be all you need to record live drums.”

  • @mikeywilde
    @mikeywilde 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I didn't expect the amazing ending!
    Thank you for that!

  • @MegaCadr
    @MegaCadr 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like how you specify “not successful”:)

  • @CarlosYounes
    @CarlosYounes 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice!
    Gosto muito dos projetos ESP.
    Muito honestos e sérios.
    Parabéns pelos trabalhos eletrônicos e músicas.
    The best regards
    Cheers from São Paulo - Brasil

  • @bpn12123
    @bpn12123 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great build but most importantly GREAT cover at the end. Any chance that you upload the whole song? To my ears, your voice suits it better than the original.

  • @iblesbosuok
    @iblesbosuok 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Twist cables which connect pin#2 and pin#3 from XLR sockets to PCB. Pots cables also. Would increase interference immunity.
    It is better to choose insulated sleeve output sockets to avoid ground loops. Use single ground connection between chassis and circuit's ground.
    Use deserve quality 1:1 signal transformer to get floating balanced output.
    Sorry for my terrible language.

  • @dez5
    @dez5 ปีที่แล้ว

    incredible video, love it. Great song as well,

  • @ikaisoha2700
    @ikaisoha2700 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Wow good job

  • @symdega
    @symdega 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This was sweet. Thanks a lot

  • @ivanmaskov
    @ivanmaskov 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I was planing to build this preamp for years :) great stuff diy perks also made it but portable version for field recording.. Also i have steinberg,it has great preamps color wise but lot of noise, it has 2068d jrc opamp i am planing to upgrade it with lm4562 bi texas instrument.. Can you make video of you upgrading yours? I have low knowlage of eletronics

    • @extralifedisco
      @extralifedisco  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks Ivan! Battery power would be a great upgrade for the preamp, probably help a little bit with performance as well if you use 2 9Vs for bipolar power. I haven't tested the steinberg too much as far as its preamps, but I'm not too picky about noise. I did see Julian Krause's review where he says their self-noise is about -123dB compared to -129dB for comparable stuff from Behringer, NI, etc. I don't know enough to say whether this is a factor of the op amp selection or another part of the circuit, but if I find the recordings I get are too noisy for my liking I'll certainly look into modding it. I expect all you would need is a hot air station and a steady hand.
      Krause's review: th-cam.com/video/PSa27hkj3G8/w-d-xo.html

    • @finonomastropiero4261
      @finonomastropiero4261 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      So a +/-12v psu would fit for this project isnt it?

    • @extralifedisco
      @extralifedisco  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes it runs on a 12VAC supply into a +/- dual dc adapter board, much like euro rack supplies (e.g. MFOS wall wart)

  • @ivolol
    @ivolol หลายเดือนก่อน

    Would have been nice if they put a simple Widlar transistor current sink in the design underneath the differential transistor pair, instead of just 2.2k resistors, usually really ups the CMRR

  • @drcarrot415
    @drcarrot415 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Is there a way to wire this up to have balanced outputs instead of unbalanced? Might’ve missed something, but I’d find a balanced output more useful in a more professional setup

    • @extralifedisco
      @extralifedisco  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, there is a separate balanced driver board available from ESP (project 51: sound-au.com/project51.htm . For the short cable run I have I wasn't too concerned about the signal but it would definitely improve the noise floor. I didn't really have room for another PCB in the case but perhaps with a smaller PSU board it could be made to fit.

    • @drcarrot415
      @drcarrot415 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@extralifedisco awesome! My main concern is my interface, for whatever reason it sounds horrible using any unbalanced source, but balanced sounds lovely. Thanks for the response!!

  • @to.ps2906
    @to.ps2906 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Please let me know how many amperes I use with this circuit. Thank you

  • @mike105172
    @mike105172 ปีที่แล้ว

    Maybe be a dumb comment but how do you connect the xlr jack to the circuit? I’m mainly confused on the hot/ cold wiring and where it goes and what is the point of it?

    • @crancarenotafish
      @crancarenotafish ปีที่แล้ว

      How? With wire. Is a balanced preamp so it has a designated connectors to hock the wire. One is hot and another is cold. Check author's website, project 66

  • @uniaoinstrumentosmusicais
    @uniaoinstrumentosmusicais ปีที่แล้ว

    Da hora esse som que você gravou, parabéns... o capacitor explodindo foi um show a parte, kkkk. Um abraço

  • @finonomastropiero4261
    @finonomastropiero4261 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    If the preamp works well with two 9v batteries, then +12/-12v psu should also do, right?

    • @finonomastropiero4261
      @finonomastropiero4261 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Great video btw. Awesome cap exploding shot

    • @extralifedisco
      @extralifedisco  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, +/-12 is what I'm using it with. I think the op amps are rated for their lowest noise at +/-15V.

  • @mariasant7852
    @mariasant7852 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    MUITO BOM

  • @businessenglishteacherus
    @businessenglishteacherus ปีที่แล้ว

    Just one Q: does it sound GREAT?

  • @ZeroesandOnes
    @ZeroesandOnes 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    10:29

    • @extralifedisco
      @extralifedisco  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      destroyed in seconds

    • @ZeroesandOnes
      @ZeroesandOnes 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@extralifedisco shame YT doesn't let you embed by the frame, i was using , and . to move around