I just bought one of these a few days ago. Original owner, 84k miles and a 5 speed. So far everything said in this old video is spot on. Somewhat torquey engine with mediocre performance. Not that I'm complaining - it's just how it is. Yes, a lot of body flex on mildly uneven surfaces. Even his comment about the color of the trunk lid being slightly off is true about mine. It has original paint and the red is slightly darker. Overall, a fine commuter for the money.
I'm not that impressed with newer dashboards. The dash with the gauges for this Celica GT was super well laid out. I appreciate the excellent analogue gauges.
Meanwhile I prefer the newer ones that shows your vehicle in a 3rd person pov, digital gauges, mpg, extra gauges, and a cool compass with a map 🤷♂️ lol I always found it cool when cars in the 80s had them and I still like them but I just wish the technology would’ve been capable for it in the 80s. If they were like they are now then it wouldn’t have been a problem lol
'87 GT hardtop during college. At the end, sold it with just under 300K miles. Original motor and transmission. Just a new radiator, a bunch of brake pads and a s*** ton of brake light bulbs over the years. Gawd, so many bulbs. Loved that car, though. Like driving a go-kart.
Call me old fashioned, the previous generation was my favorite, across the board. Styling, switchgear, drivability. It lost a certain something with the FWD design. Nothing like being "pushed" away from a light rather than "pulled."
I had one of these for 5 years. ‘88 Base model ST 5 speed felt like it wasn’t that reliable compared to the corolla I had before it. 188k miles and it went through several alternators , 2 radiators , numerous brake pads, oil pumps and a few other things I’m probably forgetting. This was in addition to the things like clutches and struts/shocks. It may have been a abused by previous owner but this was pre-CARFAX days too. On the plus Still handled great even with cheap kumho 13 tires on the original wheels. Had a magnaflow exhaust with 2.5 inch tubing that sounded decent. I miss it from time to time but I think I miss my 244 Volvo more
I had the 88 GT 1600cc with no smog equipment making more HP but about the same 0-100 km. performance. Very very reliable but with 13 inch wheels and rear drum brakes it was actually dangerously short in the braking performance. Good memories though, a chick magnet in those years.
I've had almost every generation of Celica in the past, thinking about picking up a bog standard 1985 ST162 Celica for a project car. The older rear drive models are getting very hard to come by where I live. Really regretting selling an 83 Celica I had.. The 4th gen is the last model with the awesome 80s boxy styling I really like and get nostalgic for
@@eliasvillatoro958 I ended up getting that Celica, spent 4 months fixing it up in my driveway and got it back on the road after sitting unregistered for a few years. Drive it almost every day now.
3S-FE? No shit!!! That blows LOL. My hardtop GT-S came with a 3S-GE with T-VIS that was good fun in college and then swapped easily for a 3S-GTE once I got a little older.
I had the 87 st 5 speed and it was good car, i would trade it for 83 Honda prelude also good car then traded that for 89 prelude si wonderful car and traded that for 90 Toyota CELICA gts which didn’t have turbo but all the body kit. Beautiful car but felt heavy and just wasn’t as good being the transmission would pop out of gear in second and third and at 144k miles: my si before had 177k and was perfect just not quite as attractive but way more toss able. Miss those cars.
So, the previous generation has a neater, hard tonneau cover, more power and torque, rear wheel drive, better seats, doesn't shake over bumps.....yet the 88 is better?? What a surprising bombshell.
Had Powder blue celica. Mine was a 88. Bought her cash, while my friends went and bought mustangs. My Celi out lasted them. From Ft. LEONARDWOOD TO FT. SEAL she never let me down. Would always start up. I only had to replace the alternator and battery. Had her five years. Some crackhead ran into her destroying her. I cried 😢 like a 👶
I don’t think the change from rear wheel drive and that still classic and timeless body shape to a tubby looking front wheel drive platform was an improvement at all. Not a bad looking vehicle, but certainly no improvement.
I have a little more pride in america knowing that the caviler convertible was a better car than the toyota. Anyway, show us some more of those rwd celicas of the early 80's that you mention, i'm sure i am not the only one who wants to know how they stack up vs. cars of the same era.
***** yeah that was the celica/supra, not the celica. I still enjoyed that review, but that is a different car then the Celica. the Supra is longer and has a different engine.
+mikeoftheages Build quality was poor, lots of cowl shake as well. Reliability is not so fantastic either. I would take a better finished nearly bullet proof Celica.
Checkm8king2 I just saw a perfect rust free example tooling down I-75 in the slow lane. Even the paint was good. A rare sight in the Michigan, Ohio area. He must have still thought the speed limit was 55, as I passed him going 65 or maybe he was just enjoying the moment.
***** He had it down in south Florida west palm beech area, bought it new drove it until we got a maxima in 95' and sold it to my cousin who totaled it.
Because the Supra continued as a RWD. Remember, once upon a time the Celica and the Supra were the same car, then, the Supra continued the RWD lineage while the Celica changed accordingly to FWD/AWD. As the Supra grew bigger than the Celica, this helped Toyota offer mainstream sports cars of three sizes with three different drivetrain options: MR2 with MR, Celica with FF/4WD and Supra with FR.
i guess back then companies were trying to push out FWD cars a lot more than "ancient technology" RWD cars, so you do have a great point there. The MR2 on the other hand just came out of nowhere. that's a creature onto its own. lol. cheers.
paradoxdesigns Exactly, that was an entirely new concept of an affordable and economical 2-seater Mid-Engined runabout. Conceived in the same vein as the Fiero, except Toyota executives took their heads up their arses and realized it had to be a true sport vehicle, unlike GM which fucked it up with the components they used for the Fiero. Cheers :)
I just bought one of these a few days ago. Original owner, 84k miles and a 5 speed. So far everything said in this old video is spot on. Somewhat torquey engine with mediocre performance. Not that I'm complaining - it's just how it is. Yes, a lot of body flex on mildly uneven surfaces. Even his comment about the color of the trunk lid being slightly off is true about mine. It has original paint and the red is slightly darker. Overall, a fine commuter for the money.
how has the car come out?
I'm not that impressed with newer dashboards. The dash with the gauges for this Celica GT was super well laid out. I appreciate the excellent analogue gauges.
Thumb up just for the Malmsteen reference! :-)
Yeah, Marching Out rules.
Meanwhile I prefer the newer ones that shows your vehicle in a 3rd person pov, digital gauges, mpg, extra gauges, and a cool compass with a map 🤷♂️ lol
I always found it cool when cars in the 80s had them and I still like them but I just wish the technology would’ve been capable for it in the 80s. If they were like they are now then it wouldn’t have been a problem lol
I love the Toyota Celica, I own a 1990 st and it runs as good as when i bought it!! ^_^
Still got it?
'87 GT hardtop during college. At the end, sold it with just under 300K miles. Original motor and transmission. Just a new radiator, a bunch of brake pads and a s*** ton of brake light bulbs over the years. Gawd, so many bulbs. Loved that car, though. Like driving a go-kart.
LOVE 3:51........"Inside, the Celica is...........a Celica"!!!!!!!!
I notice from watching these retro reviews that so many of the cars featured manual gearboxes. How times have changed.
Haha he put the last piece of luggage in the back seat. Very funny guy!
Back when Toyota actually made fun cars.
what about the frs. also the sienna is pretty fun when you bag it and straight pipe it.
WikdSeafood Toyota is about reliability and Gas saving not Making Sport cars.
@@randomkdm low iq, fr-s is one of the best driving cars of the generation. Beaten out only by Porsche and (arguably) the ND
@@chargermaster586 And a Supra isn't?
Yes but this wasn't that fun
Manual front windows and power rear is pretty funny. I love me some crank handles anyways.
The Dodge Neon had power windows up front, but crank windows in back when it first came out. ??? Automotive oddities to save a few dollars.
So many "mean girls" at my High School had this exact car.
Call me old fashioned, the previous generation was my favorite, across the board. Styling, switchgear, drivability. It lost a certain something with the FWD design. Nothing like being "pushed" away from a light rather than "pulled."
That's a nice description of RWD and FWD.
This was a year of the brood x cicadas. You can hear them in the background 😆
I had a black 1985 GT hatchback. Looked great with the rear spoiler and rear window louvers I installed. $12,700.00 out the door.
Back when getting the top down was a workout in itself
Yep, LoL 😂
I had one of these for 5 years. ‘88 Base model ST 5 speed felt like it wasn’t that reliable compared to the corolla I had before it. 188k miles and it went through several alternators , 2 radiators , numerous brake pads, oil pumps and a few other things I’m probably forgetting. This was in addition to the things like clutches and struts/shocks. It may have been a abused by previous owner but this was pre-CARFAX days too. On the plus Still handled great even with cheap kumho 13 tires on the original wheels. Had a magnaflow exhaust with 2.5 inch tubing that sounded decent. I miss it from time to time but I think I miss my 244 Volvo more
My red 88 Celica convertible finally died at 373,000 miles. Great car. Miss her.
This must have been a looker back then. It still holds its own.
I had the 88 GT 1600cc with no smog equipment making more HP but about the same 0-100 km. performance. Very very reliable but with 13 inch wheels and rear drum brakes it was actually dangerously short in the braking performance. Good memories though, a chick magnet in those years.
Had an 87 ST but really lusted for the All-Trac model. ..
Eesh what a pain in the ass that top was to put down and back up again. The regular coupe was an awesome car.
At 5:20... The guy is like, "Oh eff this!!!! I give up!!!!"
I've had almost every generation of Celica in the past, thinking about picking up a bog standard 1985 ST162 Celica for a project car. The older rear drive models are getting very hard to come by where I live. Really regretting selling an 83 Celica I had.. The 4th gen is the last model with the awesome 80s boxy styling I really like and get nostalgic for
I’ve had many Toyota’s with my 4 speed 1977 Celica ST being my first car. Out of every car I’ve had that is the only car I regret selling
@@eliasvillatoro958 I ended up getting that Celica, spent 4 months fixing it up in my driveway and got it back on the road after sitting unregistered for a few years. Drive it almost every day now.
This MotorWeek episode is approved by Scotty Kilmer! Rev up your Celicas!
Why can’t I find any videos on the 88 GT with a hatchback? Those were the bomb
3S-FE? No shit!!!
That blows LOL. My hardtop GT-S came with a 3S-GE with T-VIS that was good fun in college and then swapped easily for a 3S-GTE once I got a little older.
Thanks John!
I had an 85 Celica ST, 5 speed manual, great car. Wish I still had it.
Debating between 85 and 89. What do you think?
Can you guys post 1994-1999 Toyota Cellicas.
Scotty Kilmer, where are you?
Having a date with his 94 Celica.
Revving up his engine.
He couldn't fit the last bag in the trunk and just threw it in the back seat. Heheheh LOL
I had the 87 st 5 speed and it was good car, i would trade it for 83 Honda prelude also good car then traded that for 89 prelude si wonderful car and traded that for 90 Toyota CELICA gts which didn’t have turbo but all the body kit. Beautiful car but felt heavy and just wasn’t as good being the transmission would pop out of gear in second and third and at 144k miles: my si before had 177k and was perfect just not quite as attractive but way more toss able. Miss those cars.
I would take a VW Cabriolet. Less cowl shake, it was made a convertible from ground up.
sounds just like my '98 camry
So, the previous generation has a neater, hard tonneau cover, more power and torque, rear wheel drive, better seats, doesn't shake over bumps.....yet the 88 is better?? What a surprising bombshell.
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The 3rd gen is ugly AF tho. The Supra had a good front end that the Celica looked like someone removed forcefully.
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What a pain in the ass convertibles used to be, quite a bit easier now
Here's a MotorWeek Retro Review of the Toyota Celica GT Convertible from 1988.
Had Powder blue celica. Mine was a 88. Bought her cash, while my friends went and bought mustangs. My Celi out lasted them. From Ft. LEONARDWOOD TO FT. SEAL she never let me down. Would always start up. I only had to replace the alternator and battery. Had her five years. Some crackhead ran into her destroying her. I cried 😢 like a 👶
the looks for this generation belong in the "miss" column. along with the downgrade to fwd.
I had 84 Celica it was a good car
I was looking at a mint 89 Z24 Convertible yesterday, I'm very tempted to make that purchase
I hope you did. I'd love to have one
Celicas were always good sporty cars.
I really like the Toyota Celica, but I would prefer a hard top.
Taking off the top takes too much work. Sheesh.
Ese carro es una jolla
I don’t think the change from rear wheel drive and that still classic and timeless body shape to a tubby looking front wheel drive platform was an improvement at all. Not a bad looking vehicle, but certainly no improvement.
Has a 91 Celica GT convertible and I love her almost two hundred thousand miles on her. Not fast but who cares she is reliable and fun.
I had the exact car..88 gt conv
I have a white 89 GT convertible
I have a little more pride in america knowing that the caviler convertible was a better car than the toyota. Anyway, show us some more of those rwd celicas of the early 80's that you mention, i'm sure i am not the only one who wants to know how they stack up vs. cars of the same era.
I've posted months ago
***** yeah that was the celica/supra, not the celica. I still enjoyed that review, but that is a different car then the Celica. the Supra is longer and has a different engine.
I agree the cavalier is better
I cant agree with you on this one. Those Cavaliers were not very reliable.
+mikeoftheages Build quality was poor, lots of cowl shake as well. Reliability is not so fantastic either. I would take a better finished nearly bullet proof Celica.
My father had this very car (an 88'), but in a coupe.
Checkm8king2 I just saw a perfect rust free example tooling down I-75 in the slow lane. Even the paint was good. A rare sight in the Michigan, Ohio area. He must have still thought the speed limit was 55, as I passed him going 65 or maybe he was just enjoying the moment.
*****
He had it down in south Florida west palm beech area, bought it new drove it until we got a maxima in 95' and sold it to my cousin who totaled it.
LOL power rear windows and manual front windows
MotorWeek | Retro Review: '88 Toyota Celica GT Convertible
Is the 1988 Celica GT turbo charged?
David Ha
Only the high model GT4 version
I have a 1989 and need parts? help
Do you guys have any Pontiac reviews?
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How about a cavalier or sunbird rag top
both are one of the ugliest cars ever lmao
Why they ever changed the Celica's to RWD I'll never understand.
Because the Supra continued as a RWD. Remember, once upon a time the Celica and the Supra were the same car, then, the Supra continued the RWD lineage while the Celica changed accordingly to FWD/AWD. As the Supra grew bigger than the Celica, this helped Toyota offer mainstream sports cars of three sizes with three different drivetrain options: MR2 with MR, Celica with FF/4WD and Supra with FR.
i guess back then companies were trying to push out FWD cars a lot more than "ancient technology" RWD cars, so you do have a great point there. The MR2 on the other hand just came out of nowhere. that's a creature onto its own. lol. cheers.
paradoxdesigns Exactly, that was an entirely new concept of an affordable and economical 2-seater Mid-Engined runabout. Conceived in the same vein as the Fiero, except Toyota executives took their heads up their arses and realized it had to be a true sport vehicle, unlike GM which fucked it up with the components they used for the Fiero. Cheers :)
paradoxdesigns Umm don't you mean they changed the Celica to FWD?
Really manual windows? That's stupid
So basically, this car was crappy aside from the interior and shift mechanism.
Nah it was good for its time!
It was priced accordingly and had toyota's reliability!
Nice, but it ain't RWD and the handling sucks. Nothing "GT" about it.
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What ?
GT-S was much better.
Agreed, i own a liftback gts.
I swapped my GT-S with a second gen 3S-GTE from a junkyard and holy shit did that thing wake up!
LAME
What a waste of time driving a car .