I really want those for software development. At home I have a huge 4k monitor and at work 2 1080p plus laptop. I so could use this. Now if they can just give me linux support as well.
Going by how it works on a phone and the quality in HMD mode on a pc should be fantastic, completely legible without scaling and 9pt font in a terminal, there's no screen door effect as it's not going through a fresnel either.
I've had a pair of nreal airs since last year, they don't get used a ton but they're absolutely fantastic when I do get them out. If my phone had something like Samsung's dex mode I'd use them a lot more, but as it is I just use them for an extra, private monitor for my laptop when I want that.
Hey I know this is late but do you use windows or Mac because I am thinking of buying them but need them to put my second screen and stick it in one place so it does not follow my head when I move my head. Do you know if this is possible with a windows device?
Side-by-side stereoscopic 3D was amazing on TVs back in the day, but now they are almost gone from the market unfortunately. I have even implemented stereoscopic 3D graphics in my own software.
Only thing holding me back is the connection port location, I would be interested to know if you can lay on your back in bed to watch a movie without the cable port taking damage.
Unfortunately they do not support the Exynos version of the Samsung S22 Ultra. And no Linux support. But I will keep an eye on this sector as it progresses.
AR is a niche market at best. Linux desktop is a niche market as well. You're talking about the 0.1% of the 0.1%. Which platforms would you spend your time developing for as a company?
@@CraftComputing afaik the Valve index and oculus rift are compatible with linux with steam. There is actually a VR desktop enviroment. some nerd on the AUR will make it happen one day XD
Hey, just wanted to squeeze this in here. Looking-glass from gnif would get your cloud gaming server into the LAN sector. It's good to go. I have multiple halo running on gtx 1070 with looking glass client on a rx 6600. Using vgpu of course.
I'd say the likelihood of Nebula coming to Linux is slim to none. There's quite a bit that goes into emulating triple monitors. But it is still usable as a single display, and I used this a ton in the last year for gaming on the Steam Deck.
@@CraftComputing thanks for the response. Also loved the video! I actually bought my nreals in eBay BECAUSE of your first video. Now that they’ve solved the frame rate problem on steam deck I’m in love. I just wish iPhone support were better. But they are great for planes or lounging where I can’t comfortably look at the deck in my hands.
I have been using mine for gaming on my PC and love them, I would love to get more info on making games 3D side by side, I have never messed around with that, any videos you have done or recommend?
I just got them, waiting on my prescription glasses, I like them but I'm a little frustrated about not able to charge the steam deck and use the xreal at the same time.
I watched the last video and this one. I'd really love to know what you think of using the Quest 2 as a virtual monitor for the Steam Deck, if you've tried it. I came across the app "immersed" which apparently used to work to use the Q2 as a virtual monitor with the SD, but reports say a recent Immersed update broke the functionality. The Discord seems to have a flippant group of "Linux Support" reps from the official Immersed app team who have been pretty dismissive when users have asked for help with this. Seems like such an odd waste of opportunity, really. For context, I'm in the military and I'm interested in having a compact workstation I can use in cramped conditions while I'm on deployment. The NReal Air glasses wouldn't work for me as I need better FOV and 6DOF. Anyway, love your videos and I'd be happy to expand more if needed. Trying to cram all this into one comment is tough. Cheers.
@@jeremyjedynak several months ago, the user experience was good. something happened, not sure what tbh, but now the user experience is rapidly deteriorating. hope that helps.
Thanks for the review it is very useful. Can you wear prescription glasses or do you need to make prescription lenses or do they use a diopter? to see and are they comfortable?
In case you haven't found the answer yet, you can have prescription lenses made for a special insert that fits between the lenses and your eyes. They come with a sample that you should be able to bring to an optometrist so they know what to make.
I am still waiting for the prescription glasses as everything is blurry to see. However I was able to use it with my regular glasses somehow for sometime. I liked the display quality not like the shit quest 2. I still couldn’t figure how to fix the screens
Why has nobody used this to act as a hud for your mobile device? Show battery percentage in the top right corner, current time in the bottom left, notifications pop up in the top left corner, currently playing content in the bottom right. Just an idea.
And yet so far as I know they still haven't fixed the colors and contrast issues. I'll be waiting till they come out with one with newer better oled screens or buying the new rokid max
8:15 gonna have to disagree here. I have 3 portable monitors and they are all thinner than any laptop. They are slightly thicker on one side, but not that much, and only for a few inches.
Man these look so amazing but I'm not sure about spending $400 for them as I'm not sure how much use ill get out of em. Also Jeff, I'm just curious have you done any VRM thermal testing on your Erying 11800k board? TechYesCity recently got one, and theirs' VRMs were crazy hot.
@@justinbailey6515 There's no politics involved. Several months ago, the user experience was better. Then something happened, and now the user experience is deteriorating.
in theory, Mastodon is an intriguing solution as its an open source and decentralized alternative to Twitter, but to completely abandon Twitter's much larger user base would be akin to a content creator abandoning TH-cam. Without stating such, it does come across as if it was done in protest to the Twitter chamber no longer echoing quite to his liking.
@@SEAshore842 do you not use Twitter? Ads are rampant and seem less regulated. My notifications don't work. I often can't see replies to my tweets. Some of the features I used to rely on are now paywalled and embed functions I used daily for certain services are now blocked. Plus more and more prominent accounts I followed are leaving.
I'm waiting for the next release that lets you do this on the desktop. Android augmented reality is pretty useless, it would be great for work if MacOS, Linux, and Windows had this.
@@psywiped A tiny minority of people of any group left Twitter and then the majority of those came back. So what target audience are you talking about?
I don't get it. They promote this product for gaming as the main highlight, but they don't support gaming PCs, only Mac which sucks at gaming... I want to buy it, but not until they support Windows
You're confusing the features. Nebula is their app for AR and productivity. It's what emulates the triple screen setup, and it is coming soon for Windows. The glasses themselves work as a standalone monitor on any device with DisplayPort over USB-C. Steam Deck, Android Phone, Windows PC, Mac... And as a standalone display, they're amazing for gaming.
@@CraftComputing Thanks for the clarification, I see I was wrong, it may be a good option then. I am almost ready to buy it trough your link... but I am still confused about what will happen with latency and performance , because my Nvidia GPU does not have usb output. Still, I believe the native GPU DP output can be passthrough to to the thunderbolt port by using a weird.loop back cable (I see a mini DP Input port in my ITX motherboard that seems to be for doing some perverted transgender stuff, similar to converting Guinnes to IPA or something ;). But I wonder why they do this so complicated, it would much easier if the glasses had a mini DP input (or an adapter for this). Or maybe they have it as an option ?
Good information but what is this delivery style? Is this guy even human or an AI generated robot with this cadence? Sing song... Every sentence has to end on the downbeat? Not just him, I see this same delivery repeated over and over again. Just me or amirite?
Agree, much better with American software that sells my information that get sold to private companies wanting to direct how I spend my money. Having some government hoarding it like a dragon, massive waste on manipulation I will miss out on
Its a interesting technology but aesthetically they look really boring, they just look like a generic pair of casual sunglasses rather than a professional device. I find something more like the bigscreen beyond headset is much more modern and professional looking, though it's more VR focused and on a much steeper price point.
I believe the point is for them to not look too out of place while wearing them on an airplane or other forms of public transportation. Also it's no where near the capability of the bigscreen beyond and does not try to compete with them.
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Any word on linux support? I'm linux only and a trio of monitors while on the go would be awesome
I really want those for software development. At home I have a huge 4k monitor and at work 2 1080p plus laptop. I so could use this. Now if they can just give me linux support as well.
I've been consideing using someting like this for search and rescue, this looks afordable enough to try.
I'm hoping to get mine out with my drone in the next couple weeks now that I have a phone that supports DP-C.
How good is the text clarity when "virtual desktops" are used?
Going by how it works on a phone and the quality in HMD mode on a pc should be fantastic, completely legible without scaling and 9pt font in a terminal, there's no screen door effect as it's not going through a fresnel either.
So they are viable for programming where i usually have large screens to have an overview of code?
I've had a pair of nreal airs since last year, they don't get used a ton but they're absolutely fantastic when I do get them out. If my phone had something like Samsung's dex mode I'd use them a lot more, but as it is I just use them for an extra, private monitor for my laptop when I want that.
Hey I know this is late but do you use windows or Mac because I am thinking of buying them but need them to put my second screen and stick it in one place so it does not follow my head when I move my head. Do you know if this is possible with a windows device?
@@Medicalscape I actually tend to use it with Linux, it should work fine with Windows. Never tested with a Mac.
BTW you can Force the glass to 78fps on windows using Nvidia control panel
Does seem to work, once I ran the firmware update. Cool.
@@surfacingcom also forcing the fps fixes the low brightness flicker
@@Unmixable404 I see that. Had it in storage for months. Pulled it out to try with the new 18 inch 4080 dell. Not exactly a portable setup.
As soon as Linux support for the virtual monitors is available I'll be all over these. Sadly only MacOS and Windows. 😐
Also want virtual monitor support for linux on wayland and whatever the steamdeck is using.
As soon as Windows support is out I'm buying them
Great timing on this video. I’ve been looking at getting the Nreal air and re-watched your previous video last night.
and now ordered with the affiliate link.
Nice. Didn't think Windows triple display was coming i might have to find a super long type c cable for mine now and test that out
Adding this to the Christmas list, I will wait until virtual desktop anywhere works for windows.
Sponsorship or not, let's see you pour a beer into those glasses 😂
Sounds awesome! I hope that Nreal will add Linux support for virtual triple monitor display to work as well (e.g. Steam Deck's Desktop mode).
is that a pun?
@@caatabatic No it is not.
oof. " sounds awesome" and the audio was terrible. but yeash agree on desktop support would be great
@@devincurrie4145
I wonder how these would do in Linux
Finally pulled the trigger on these. Excited to try them
How does it handle work tasks?
Working with 2 x 32” at home, but is sometime stuck with laptop or single 24” at the office.
Side-by-side stereoscopic 3D was amazing on TVs back in the day, but now they are almost gone from the market unfortunately. I have even implemented stereoscopic 3D graphics in my own software.
Only thing holding me back is the connection port location, I would be interested to know if you can lay on your back in bed to watch a movie without the cable port taking damage.
They work great lying down in bed, the angle of the connection of the cable directs it along your ear and not into the pillow.
8:40 you mean the effect is Nreal
Unfortunately they do not support the Exynos version of the Samsung S22 Ultra. And no Linux support. But I will keep an eye on this sector as it progresses.
they still work as a 1080p hmd in linux, just no virt option yet.
Very cool gadget. It's a shame they aren't working on the virtual desktop feature for Linux.
AR is a niche market at best. Linux desktop is a niche market as well. You're talking about the 0.1% of the 0.1%. Which platforms would you spend your time developing for as a company?
@@CraftComputing afaik the Valve index and oculus rift are compatible with linux with steam. There is actually a VR desktop enviroment.
some nerd on the AUR will make it happen one day XD
wonder if you can screen capture off of those
mani was really out here thinking that somehow someone air mounted monitors to thier face
Hey, the pirate is back
WHAT WHAT
I want add on rings that will track my fingers.
been tempted to try these out for a while now, glad to see they're prime eligible! Used the link and stoked to try them out :D
I'd be tempted to give this a shot with my laptop guitar rig once I've upgraded to something with usb-c.
Tech??? And beer?? +1 sub
Love my nreal glasses!
Is there not an adaptor for none DP phones?
Do you use prescription lenses with it? I've seen that Nreal supports them, just curious how well they work.
I don't use the prescription lenses in mine, but I don't have any issues focusing up close.
Amazing
Hey, just wanted to squeeze this in here. Looking-glass from gnif would get your cloud gaming server into the LAN sector. It's good to go. I have multiple halo running on gtx 1070 with looking glass client on a rx 6600. Using vgpu of course.
My nebula app doesn't work in Canada how about the US?
Any chance of some of those features usable on steam deck? Or only on windows?
I'd say the likelihood of Nebula coming to Linux is slim to none. There's quite a bit that goes into emulating triple monitors. But it is still usable as a single display, and I used this a ton in the last year for gaming on the Steam Deck.
@@CraftComputing thanks for the response. Also loved the video! I actually bought my nreals in eBay BECAUSE of your first video. Now that they’ve solved the frame rate problem on steam deck I’m in love. I just wish iPhone support were better. But they are great for planes or lounging where I can’t comfortably look at the deck in my hands.
I have been using mine for gaming on my PC and love them, I would love to get more info on making games 3D side by side, I have never messed around with that, any videos you have done or recommend?
Ginger XR works like a nebula for PC
One thing after buying them for productivity use espically reading text they sucks
Might want to get a vision exam, they work great with a current prescription.
I love PDX Lan but I haven't been able to go to it for like... 15 years. Maybe one day I will go back.
Do it!
I'd love to see the difference between nreal air and light at some point
I just got them, waiting on my prescription glasses, I like them but I'm a little frustrated about not able to charge the steam deck and use the xreal at the same time.
Nubia Red dragon adapter. Allows charging and pass through USB C display.
I watched the last video and this one. I'd really love to know what you think of using the Quest 2 as a virtual monitor for the Steam Deck, if you've tried it. I came across the app "immersed" which apparently used to work to use the Q2 as a virtual monitor with the SD, but reports say a recent Immersed update broke the functionality. The Discord seems to have a flippant group of "Linux Support" reps from the official Immersed app team who have been pretty dismissive when users have asked for help with this. Seems like such an odd waste of opportunity, really.
For context, I'm in the military and I'm interested in having a compact workstation I can use in cramped conditions while I'm on deployment. The NReal Air glasses wouldn't work for me as I need better FOV and 6DOF.
Anyway, love your videos and I'd be happy to expand more if needed. Trying to cram all this into one comment is tough. Cheers.
Q2 is more immersive, but lower res, and far less sharp because of the fresnel lenses used. Great in games, bad for a virtual monitor.
You mentioned at the end of the video that you "uninstalled Twitter." Why?
Why do you think lol
@@tormaid42 Why make assumptions instead of just asking the source?
Why do you think?
@@CraftComputing Why ask people to make assumptions instead of just answering a straightforward question?
@@jeremyjedynak several months ago, the user experience was good. something happened, not sure what tbh, but now the user experience is rapidly deteriorating. hope that helps.
How does it track body orientation?
Thanks for the review it is very useful. Can you wear prescription glasses or do you need to make prescription lenses or do they use a diopter? to see and are they comfortable?
In case you haven't found the answer yet, you can have prescription lenses made for a special insert that fits between the lenses and your eyes. They come with a sample that you should be able to bring to an optometrist so they know what to make.
Man that 3ple screen capability should be awesome for simracing
Is it work with Xiaomi or Poco smartphones?
nreal air or rokid max, which one is better and why?
Hunch Hunch, What Whaaat
I am still waiting for the prescription glasses as everything is blurry to see. However I was able to use it with my regular glasses somehow for sometime. I liked the display quality not like the shit quest 2. I still couldn’t figure how to fix the screens
@Jeff How do you get your hands on these brews? I'd love to sample them along with you!
Geez.. living in Canada sucks. I could buy a valve index for what those are listed for right now. 😕
Can you use your google maps on your phone with these glasses while you drive?
Yes and with the app putting it in the corner it's great!
No AR or VR on them?
Why has nobody used this to act as a hud for your mobile device? Show battery percentage in the top right corner, current time in the bottom left, notifications pop up in the top left corner, currently playing content in the bottom right. Just an idea.
do they have stuff like ad tracking and related bloat? If not, I might buy them
Nope! No bloat. No tracking.
And yet so far as I know they still haven't fixed the colors and contrast issues. I'll be waiting till they come out with one with newer better oled screens or buying the new rokid max
Can I ask... What issue are you talking about? Rocking these on the daily for months, and I've never once had an issue with color or contrast.
I ll allways trust a Guy that knows what a "Biertulpe" glas is.
I want one but I need it to be untethered.
8:15 gonna have to disagree here. I have 3 portable monitors and they are all thinner than any laptop. They are slightly thicker on one side, but not that much, and only for a few inches.
is triple display mode exclusive on mac
Nebula is currently in Beta on MacOS. A Beta is coming for Windows with the same feature, but it isn't out yet.
I would SO be into these... for $199..
their worth twice that.
Man these look so amazing but I'm not sure about spending $400 for them as I'm not sure how much use ill get out of em.
Also Jeff, I'm just curious have you done any VRM thermal testing on your Erying 11800k board? TechYesCity recently got one, and theirs' VRMs were crazy hot.
I'm curious as to why you ditched twitter for mastodon? What makes it better?
Probably better to not ask. It's getting harder to find content without the politics.
@@justinbailey6515 There's no politics involved. Several months ago, the user experience was better. Then something happened, and now the user experience is deteriorating.
@@rett.isawesome what user experience changed?
in theory, Mastodon is an intriguing solution as its an open source and decentralized alternative to Twitter, but to completely abandon Twitter's much larger user base would be akin to a content creator abandoning TH-cam. Without stating such, it does come across as if it was done in protest to the Twitter chamber no longer echoing quite to his liking.
@@SEAshore842 do you not use Twitter? Ads are rampant and seem less regulated. My notifications don't work. I often can't see replies to my tweets. Some of the features I used to rely on are now paywalled and embed functions I used daily for certain services are now blocked.
Plus more and more prominent accounts I followed are leaving.
If Jeff ever gets another host he also needs to be named Jeff.
Why did you uninstall Twitter?
I'm waiting for the next release that lets you do this on the desktop. Android augmented reality is pretty useless, it would be great for work if MacOS, Linux, and Windows had this.
Leaving Twitter for Mastodon I'd think was a mistake, also why not have both?
Target audience left twitter and is on mastodon
@@psywiped A tiny minority of people of any group left Twitter and then the majority of those came back. So what target audience are you talking about?
Move over Nreal Air there's 2 New Challengers Rokid Max Glasses and EM3 Ether VR Glasses
FIrst
wierd they are called Xreal now.
What?! What?! (Archer Reference)
7 months later, nebula app for windows "coming soon" 😂😂
I just wish they were cheaper 600$ Canadian is a lil much I bought my livingroom tv for 300
It's a 130 inch screen not 50
get your twitter back
Yeee another video on this glasses it’s only the 10th this week
almost like nreal planned it
I don't get it. They promote this product for gaming as the main highlight, but they don't support gaming PCs, only Mac which sucks at gaming... I want to buy it, but not until they support Windows
You're confusing the features. Nebula is their app for AR and productivity. It's what emulates the triple screen setup, and it is coming soon for Windows.
The glasses themselves work as a standalone monitor on any device with DisplayPort over USB-C. Steam Deck, Android Phone, Windows PC, Mac... And as a standalone display, they're amazing for gaming.
@@CraftComputing Thanks for the clarification, I see I was wrong, it may be a good option then. I am almost ready to buy it trough your link... but I am still confused about what will happen with latency and performance , because my Nvidia GPU does not have usb output. Still, I believe the native GPU DP output can be passthrough to to the thunderbolt port by using a weird.loop back cable (I see a mini DP Input port in my ITX motherboard that seems to be for doing some perverted transgender stuff, similar to converting Guinnes to IPA or something ;). But I wonder why they do this so complicated, it would much easier if the glasses had a mini DP input (or an adapter for this). Or maybe they have it as an option ?
Good information but what is this delivery style? Is this guy even human or an AI generated robot with this cadence? Sing song... Every sentence has to end on the downbeat? Not just him, I see this same delivery repeated over and over again. Just me or amirite?
Paid advertisement. Meh.
Great info after nearly 2 minutes of boring intro. Please get to the point.
If only there was a chapter marker after the legally required sponsorship disclosure...
Chinese company, no good. Especially when you need their softwares.
Agree, much better with American software that sells my information that get sold to private companies wanting to direct how I spend my money.
Having some government hoarding it like a dragon, massive waste on manipulation I will miss out on
Cheapest oled monitor so far 😂
1st!
Great, now people will be watching the game while driving down the highway... Texting distraction on steroids
Movies, still have to use the hands to steer.
Its a interesting technology but aesthetically they look really boring, they just look like a generic pair of casual sunglasses rather than a professional device.
I find something more like the bigscreen beyond headset is much more modern and professional looking, though it's more VR focused and on a much steeper price point.
I believe the point is for them to not look too out of place while wearing them on an airplane or other forms of public transportation. Also it's no where near the capability of the bigscreen beyond and does not try to compete with them.
The only thing I don't like is how they look. Too ugly. I want a cool set of glasses.
You need to watch "They Live"
Stop buying BS and pre-order a Bigscreen Beyond
I tried pre order once., it was bs
You tried to preorder SOMETHING ELSE and were disappointed. This has nothing to do with the Bigscreen VR goggles
Preorder is for shills and suckers.