Minister Dr Aaron Motsoaledi sheds light on the passports of Thabo Bester and Nandipha Magudumana
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ส.ค. 2024
- Minister Dr Aaron Motsoaledi to shed some light on the passports of fugitives, Thabo Bester and Nandipha Magudumana.
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Dr Aaron Motswoaledi is one of the best ministers we have in the country. He really knows his job and department.
Sure, he know it tooo well, he has no records, and his border officers ate mere slay kings and queens,
He is. He has done his homework very well
I totally agree. He was as excellent as the minister of health. Done his homework, aware of the logistics, not ignorant of the weaknesses and takes responsibility where necessary. We need more leaders like these.
Like can he be Minister of police.everything he touch turns into gold...
I can listen to this honorable minister speak all day. 👏🏿
This man should be the president of SA
You can listen to
him talk and you know he knows what exactly he is saying
thabo had a tough up bringing i really feel sorry for this guy raised himself no guidance guys lets be really here
🇿🇦Dr Aaron Motsoaledi for President ❤
2023 there still asking us Passports in Africa....? Come on brothers when are we going to wake up
This going to be a great story..Remember we still need the Dr involved 😁
Painful story of no identity 😢
@14:23 That is how it was under apartheid.
They were domestic workers and they didn't have any rights. A whole generation was born in South Africa under similar circumstances with a lasting legacy of not having any birth certificates or registration in the system. 😢😠
SAPS DROPS OUR BALL
I just need to know, at the time of arrest, why was it not identified that Thabo wasn't a recognized South African citizen!? Is this not checked before you arrest people?
Home Affairs must check CIPRO records to verify Thabo's directorship in companies. SARS should verify tax affairs of these directors, that's how bank account details can be uncovered. Rates and taxes of Nandipha will show who owns the properties.
Thabo really had it rough, no lD and no parental guidance basically therefore he had to hustle on his own
Yall will find any excuse to excuse these people
@@lorrenzom NO excuse but he did have it rough
@@lorrenzom is you SERIOUS? Do you KNOW the HISTORY of this cowntry? 😮
A millionaire you talking about. He got exposed to a certain cult ,it was all planned out from birth
Not true, he was raised by his grandparents, his mom was a housekeeper. The grandfather caught him steeling the neighbour's money @ the age of 4, at 5 he committed the same again. He went to school at it seems 10 years old, progressed to grade 5, left school, and after 4 years disappeared. At 17 incaserated for petty crime, had already started with his bogus model agency luring young girls only to rob them of their belongings. Rotten to the core.
Thabo has childhood trumours...it's clear that he had a tough childhood. These are the results of such upbringing
Tramours? Whats that?
@Noluthando Sikhosana
Akukho mntu ongaze adlwengule omnye, wena uguquke ufune ukumenza ixhoba. UThabo Bester ebeyazi into ayenzayo, kwaye ufanelwe kukuba axhonywe, lilishwa nje ukuba iANC yayitshitshisa intambo!
How did he register companies without ID number?
By conning people on an unprecedented scale!
Can a DNA test be done between him and his mother
I am also on this note. I would like to see the mother and father...
It was done
Yes DNA was taken when Dr want cremation the body of Thabo and the mother claimed the body, is when Dr get arrested
@inkalankala7106 DNA was done between the mother and the dead body. It should be done between the so called Bester and the mother
Dr Pashy reported passport stolen in 2019 then used the same passport on 26 Dec 2020...at the same time she was in possession of a new passport issued to her on 10July 2019 but did not use it on this trip👀. Kgotsa ga ke utlwe sentle bathong!?😂
The passport The Dr used.. How come the Dr Friend never actually ran to cops to say passport being stolen? The friend must be looked into.
Perhaps this story may play a role in this saga later on? But it does raise eyebrows! Her first "stolen" passport found on the accomplice in Tanzania? as well as the one she "gave" the dr.? and the 3rd one still waiting for her to collect? What was her role? Were these passports the dr.'s "insurance" during her travels with Bester? Only time and digging will tell.
What did the other officials accompany Minister Dr Motsoaledi for? Just to pose for selfies before the cameras?
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Hahaha
I shall not throw the first stone
How was he sentenced for 25 years in prison without an ID?
SA JUSTICE SYSTEM IS TRASH.
You don’t need an ID to be convicted of a crime.
Yoh! If we use your rule of law we'll have lots I mean lots of criminals on rampage.
Cleary you didn't listen to the briefing
There must be jailtime for those who does enable these kind of crimes
The minister addressed the issue of ZEPs so beautifully.These Zimbabweans have been given ample time to apply for other South African permits but haven't done so now they wanna cry Xenophobia & are dragging him & his department to court. Its been said that most of them don't have critical skills hence they aren't even bothering to apply for the scarce skills permit & wanna cling onto Zeps which were always a temporary arrangement. Why should SA keep foreigners who aren't contributing significantly to the economy amongst other things?
Whats got to do with Zim.
@hyslopjackie Get on a taxi and run back over the boarder to Zim. You have two months left
Who allowed this type as Law enforcement 😮
From the minister if Dr pashy's new passport is found with Dr nandipha it simply means pahy give it to her n pahy might know abt the escape outside the country
Yes in this matter i think i should ask the minister to please provide the prisoners who are in police custody or prison with IDENTITY DOCUMENT, which they lost in their arrest records and they are not having their ID
My son is in prison as we speak but he has no ID because of one of the officers negligence
Thabo is ahead of you. He removed his identity from the database
So some journalists found him yet the Gov with all it's resources were clueless...follow the money
...in the best interest of the child!
Love it ❤
OUR government employ this type.. South Africans pay his salary😮
If he doesn't have an IDENTITY then who issued him those passports? Where were they issued and are those people fired?
Does he know he is a minster??????????????????
Where is Minister being interviewed from, bathong? He seems to be blinded by something, the sun or some light. Thusang hleng....
Same control system that was used in Thabo Bester prison only off when he escaped😮...Thabo Bester was running a company out of his prison cell. The wardens had no idea of it..The wardens prison officials had no ideas😁 No checks not just the escape. Other things ..These wardens must loose their pension. And no salary while on suspension.
They said the reason why he had a laptop in jail it's because he was enrolled for graphic design so you should have went there as well just to confirm
Was he allowed to register for tertiary education without ID?🤔 Mmmh! this country.
@@walkwithorr you just raised a very important question
Left school at Std 3 or 5 to Tertiary yho
Bester and his requests for privileges that doesn't belong in prisons. Even now, he doesn't want the food provided, he requested food be provided by bla-bla-bla, he requested to be moved to another jail because he is concerned for his safety (sounds familiar?), therefore to be moved to bal-bla-bla. Court ruled he should take it up with Correctional Services, not their duristriction to rule on his requests!? The man is living on another planet!
Thank you too everyone African's in on TV 📺 the house 🏠 👂👀✔️✔️✔️✔️
What about the river crossing?
Is Home Affairs going to do a Registration of Late Birth for T.B, like how his Grannys sister did for his mother?
They should because
Home Affairs now has his 1.Mom's Confirmation
2.Hospital Confirmation of Birth
3.School Confirmation of Attendance until Std 5
4.SAPS Records of Arrests 5.Correctional Services Records of Incarceration
🤔 And shouldn't the Dept of Education be asked how a child without Birth and Clinic Records was enrolled into school?
I guess school can't send the child away because of not having certificate especial schools in rural areas.
or maybe these guys had access to someone who managed to whipe out all the details of TB in home affairs db
It is still happening today where children without id's are enrolled, it is against the law to refuse ány child to enroll.
The only person who is having problem with the ligts is the minister
Kanti these journalists are hard of hearing. The Minister did say their passports were not stamped at any port of entry. Minister also said there is evidence that he's the first born child of his mother. Minister also did say that there is no customary law marriage record of Nandipa and Thabo at Home Affairs
Hayi angeke sisamthemba lo 😢
Minister the case of ZEP is still in court. You were wrong to comment about it and explain yourself. The worst thing the minister did is to talk bad of the lawyer he hired. Minister you failed yourself.
Yasebenza lo minister yhoo... Uguqe ngamadolo, akalalanga tu.
So it means the 2020 December trip was not done by Dr Pashy. Cause Pashy said she applied for another passport in 2019.😮
hi
How did dr pashy manage to retain her old passport
Gamma might not see cigarettes. Gold smuggling will stop
Noooooo Aaron your exposing Mam Macys identity, already her life is in danger
Was Thabo Bester deported to RSA because of the maternity records at Baragwanath Hospital ?
Another Netflix movie material....in SA we no longer need movies anymore. Movies are lived experiences
Gupta's done all this at department of labour.😮 Gigs sorted
Why are we hearing about border upgrade while we are waiting to hear about Bester and Nandipha story... Questions are not answered here...
Was the deceased "So-called Thabo Bester" death certificate issued and if so, how was it issued being that he does not have a valid South African ID?
😂 hahaha Mara our Government
Important question, the media did not dig deeper.
Listen again. That question is answered @1:44:00
Who gave this person to South Africans..Any ideas?
I smell something big here alot off people are involved here even politics and how did this guy have lots off money, now Thabo Bester is afraid for his life .I wonder who else is involve
THABO IS THE EXACT SITUATION THAT HAPPENS TO KIDS WHO ARE BEING REJECTED BY THEIR PARENTS, THIS IS THE RESULT.
What South Africans trust this Aaron?
Just go back to Europe I'm sure the king can't wait to have you there
This guys think we stupid and journalists are not asking right questions like how was he processed first time in jail if they didn't know anything about him🥱🥱🥱🤕🤕😏😏🤔🤔
This is the story telling time
Sophie and Moloko why don't you Thabo how they skip the country. Let's are not suspect home affairs officials from get go
This our government 😢
16 year old doing grade 5? No
Eish! Ntate Motsoaledi I hope it is not going to be money in the drain, some people have already given the country away by asking for open borders.
How does a 16 year old do grade 5?
He might have started school late.. it's common is South Africa especially for kids who grew up like Bester
U can say that again something doesn’t make sense
It may help if you allocate national id at birth. That's putting it on the birth certificate
Cha our state stand 🧍♀️ still for Thabo Bester issue 🙄
DId he shed lights on or Lights were shed on him, for lack of records, incompetemt border controls, lying to cover it up and not accepting responsibility
Thabos so cunning, he thought this one up yonks ago knowing that it will cause a stir when hits the fan...ok👏sa👏la👏yo!
Hi
Wow a grade 5 leaver duping doctors and degree holders
What if the Mozambique national has crimes in South Africa...?
This spokesperson looks nervous.
This man is definitely a CIA agent...groomed for 15years
This home affairs documentation is colonisation and is Roman Dutch law but is necessary to avoid all confusion. So not everything is bad 😅
Why not finding out why Dr so easy to climb over border?
TAKES A LONG TIME, BUT WHAT CAN YOU EXPECT FOR ONLY r 40 MILLION A YEAR TAX MONEY....................................
Hayibo how is it that the Guptas are not on red on interpol?
So did Bester write matric without an ID?or attend any school?
They said the last grade he attended was grade5
@@noluthandosikhosana.7823 A grade 5 individual who's so smart, but smart for wrongs things. It's tragic
@@victormkhaliphi2778 uneducated people are very brave if they land in wrong hands and get promised money they will do anything. Criminals know that, that is why they always prey on those.
@@victormkhaliphi2778 People are born with smarts. These education system that is in place is completely flawed in assessing the smartness.
I feel sorry for the real Thabo Besters 🥺💔
Who are the real Thabo Besters and who are the fake Thabo Besters?
Imagine them trying to apply for jobs. It's sad bandla. This just made me realize the importance of having two or more birth names.
2006 if Thabo was born 1986 he was 20 not 16
he said 2002 dear sister
guys its true that it is easy to escape in SOUTH AFRICA i have worked in few borders for 3 years im talking about something that i know not heard..with R100.00 YOU CAN GO TO SWAZILAND VERY EASY
It is also easy to enter as well, I once saw someone doing it at the border from Swaziland. This person came to us and asked if we have space in our car we said no. Then he found someone that gavd him a lift. Our driver said this guy is entering illegaly because he did not go inside the offices to have a passport stamped. Am not sure how he edited the Swazi border but the SA he was given a lift, no one double checkef if the occupants in the car had passports. I'm not a frequent traveller but I saw this.
Lesotho charge you a fine of R400 apparently
Zuma was motsoaledi president yet Zuma wasn't educated why onyatsa batho mitsoaledi.yes bester is not educated n dated Dat Dr wabo
All clues and directions so to speak about bester was done by media journalists for SAPS investigators the government must therefore give thumps and credit for the arrest of bester to our media journalists 😂
Whooo. NOT ACTUALLY BESTER😁😁
Why was Thabo as grade 4..Able to run wild? Is this something similar to Jacob Zuma within ANC? Something South Africans need to know? Who can we as South Africans trust? Can South Africans trust ANC? THABO/JZ The no brainers😮seems the way.
Same thing happened under Apartheid. Grade zeros, grade 1s, 2s, 3s etc were running the country. I read the book "Psychology of Apartheid" by Dr Peter Lambley, he tells of the corruption he saw at Groote Schuur Hospital in the 70s where unqualified white Drs posing as Doctors were allòwed to treat patients esp of color. The seed for corruption was planted some time ago not now and its mainly the result of historical trauma. It actually started with colonialism.
White people need to focus on their toxic white supremacy attitudes and we also focus on healing our own traumas as Blacks.
We are very sad about this story and the trauma our parents went through and Thabo's story is the result of childhood trauma and we dont know Nandipha's story.
I am not saying they should not be held accountable, but we understand Bester's chaotic childhood though we dont condone his actions!
Let the pot not call the kettle black!
GIGABYTE gave ouick passport to Gupta's 😂
Can someone assist on how to connect the trail of evidence by the minister to the real man in custody of the state? The state confesses to issuing passports to a person with no South African ID. Somebody make me understand.
WHO confessed to THAT? WHICH person was issued a passport with NO South African ID?
@@dumisanimbele3426 Couldn't such a conclusion be drawn from what the minister said?
@@monwabisitembani6319 NO. There's NO nexus between what the minister said and the conclusion that's been drawn.....
@@dumisanimbele3426 "Thabo Bester has no ID but is South African based on criminal record, fingerprints - cops" . The minister just confirmed this article from News24.
@@monwabisitembani6319 you qualify for citizenship by birth, Bhuti. Just like Bester's mother applied for her SA ID at the age of 32. From birth she was SOUTH AFRICAN. Going to your nearest Home Affairs office and apply for an ID document is to FORMALISE the process.....
Jesus wept. what the h3ll is going on here
lmk... useless ,,, that is why they dont want to move from 3rd world to a better conutry... it is for things like that ... and the minister supposed to be able to explaon but he is so confused too...
Ntate Motswaledi o hlaketsoe.
Absolutely no clue party running this clown show
This our government 😂
This lad a complete joke.
Joke is what you covered in your pants
Freddie,you are so racist and its so visible
At least JZ had a higher grade.. Jacob Zuma ran the country of South Africa 😂
🍌🍌🍌🍌🍌
Banana country sihlubiwe shem necked
All the fools running around like chickens with heads chopped off, going nowhere!
Home Affairs must check CIPRO records to verify Thabo's directorship in companies. SARS should verify tax affairs of these directors, that's how bank account details can be uncovered. Rates and taxes of Nandipha will show who owns the properties.