Jon: *contacts Valdari to declare war* Valdari "Would you like to see our ballpit? It's lot's of fun!" Jon: No, I want to see you bleed!" Valdari: *???????*
Re: Ruined Ecumenopolis - The limit is correct, there is a limit of 25 districts. However, 20 districts are currently ruined, leaving only 5 behind. This value is reflected in the arcology districts. What you're seeing is not 0/5 of *each* but 0/5 possible. If you were to construct say, a Housing district, it'd be 1/5, but the others would be 0/4. This is because the values reflect potential. Since there are only five available districts, building one of a type will mean that there is a potential of four leftover. Clearing the ruined Arcologies raises the amount as you reclaim the ruins of Fen Habbanis.
@@mm-xd5sd Stellaris' calculation of how many districts can be built gets a tiny bit confusing when you stop having limits (machine worlds lose the ability to have agriculture districts but also lose limits on mining and generator districts) but, as can most commonly be reflected in city districts, the first number is always the amount of that district you have, while the second number is the potential number of those districts if you build no other districts, this second number does not take into consideration how many other districts you can build but does take all limits into account, like blockers, or in the case of things like agricultural districts, actual planetary limits.
you could invade half of the rontus and settle a status quo to make the half a subsiduary, making a buffer state and the new subsiduary may not be as xenophobic.
Yea if you make a vassal they automatically become your civics even though the majority pops are otherwise and the pops slowly become the state civic by default. I think. Tell me if I'm wrong I'm new to the game. :3
For the purposes of the subsidiaries, will they be affected by governing ethics attraction if he does subjugate them? If so, won't they actually gradually like their new overlord? Or do the corps work differently? Maybe splitting the empire into a few smaller subsidiaries (via white peace) and letting their ethics drift towards your own is a solution.
@@sharkofjoy yea he should name them west/east/south/north then the empire name that would not only make it harder for them to revolt they would feel divided and hate each other for being so close.
Jon, here's some more advice. Once again, hope you see this: 5:00-5:15 ) Two pieces of advice. 1, neither shipyards nor anchorages provide piracy support and 2, station "protection" provides a base cap that piracy must exceed to effect trade, but does not cause the amount of piracy present to decrease. Only fleets actually lower system piracy. 22:19-22:45 ) "Ecumenopolus" is a planet type, not a megastructure. If you choose the related ascension perk (Arcology Project), you can convert your own planets into them. They are absolute monsters for trade, alloy, and luxury good production, but you will need to have loads of energy and food to keep them going. P.S. Love that you kept calling it Coruscant. That is what I named my colony on the first league capital! 23:40-24:13 ) An extension of what @Simon Nyne said, the "ruined districts" act as tile blockers, just like hostile wildlife or volcanos. In my comment on the last video I talked a bit about blockers, but I'll reiterate and expand on that advice. Tile blockers decrease the max number of district slots (essentially decreasing the planet size) in addition to locking off certain districts of each type. Also, the "ruined arcologies" on Fen Habbanis III can't just be "fixed". Clearing them out is no different from removing tile blockers on other worlds. 24:13-24:31 ) I don't think those are bugs. That entire system is supposed to be absolutely lucrative. But I could be wrong. 36:20-26:24 ) Yes. 1:08:07-1:08:15 ) Each Gun/Missile Battery or Hangar provides trade protection AND +1 trade protection range.
"When the League collapsed, food delivery stopped immidiatly and the Planet turned to Anarchy" Jon: "Awesome, Lets Colonize this one!" Me looking at his food supply: "Why do i feel like history is going to repeat itself?"
Jon, when building robots, click on the assembled pop to open a menu where you can decide which template should be built. Also, with star bases, when you put extra trade modules they extend trade collection by one each. This means that one strategically placed star base could cover a very wide chunk of space. It also means you could collect the trade from Prosperity remotely.
Yup. You can also do that with regular pops. Click on the growing square and select which option you want (grow: any, or only a specific species). I thought that’s what he would do when I got the sociology slaves but then I noticed he left it up to rng.
I love that Foundation is the robot production hub of the empire. I know there weren't really any robots in the Foundation series, but a tenuous connection is a connection none the less!
Matt! About the neighbours to the north. Do a war of "Libration", and install a friendly government that have the same values as you, then they could join as vassels later
If you chose status quo during a subjugation war while controlling all their planets, then every system and planet you currently occupy become a new empire under you. The systems you didn't occupy will have their starbase destroyed and become unoccupied by any empire and must have a starbase rebuilt by someone.
Jon, if ever you want to help in a war but can't reach the combatants, just funnel them huge amounts of your excess resources. You're basically pulling a USA v USSR, from the cold war, only *IN SPACE!* If you give enough resources you'll reduce the strain on their economy and actually allow them to actually focus on building what they need to fight the war, if... you know... that's your thing...
If John subjugates the Uthonians they will like John 338 more than right now (388) because they will now longer have the penalties for rivalry, border friction, etc. Additionaly they will gain a +25 opinion for being a subject AND the trust will increase the opinion over time
Jon you need to secure the Xir system. Currently you do not share a border with the Tyals and whenever the Rontor close their borders, they have to go through the Qiramulan territory to reinforce you which could also get closed off. Thankfully, with the Rontor and Uthonians in a federation, the Tyals can attack through Xir. Had they stayed in a defensive pact, then it would've been a long time before Tyal reinforcements showed up to help had the Rontor attacked. Also, look at the Diplomacy adoption bonus. It's broken when combined with your Fanatical Xenophile ethic.
Don't worry - I'll make sure Xir changes hands when the war happens - though I THINK the Tiyal already have claims down, so I'll probably just let them have it.
@@ManyATrueNerd If you switch to the Diplomacy map mode and click their empire, then any systems that they do have claims on will have a blue hexagon by the name.
I got lucky with my first MegaCorp, I spawned in next to pacifist xenophobes who generated 4 primitives, so every time the primitives got kicked out they came to fill up my slave population. At the height of my game I was making so much money and minerals I'd keep hitting the cap every 4 years or so. MegaCorps are SCARY powerful if you spec into them correctly. Criminal heritage seems to make the whole thing a bit more 'hard-mode' from what I'm seeing with this series, because my playthrough was a cakewalk.
You don’t need to have a huge-ass 1800 or 2200 Strength naval stack out on piracy suppression. A few Corvettes - or perhaps just even one - is sufficient in most cases. Ships that are out in space require a bunch more Upkeep than ships that are docked (yellow icon) which again require more than ships properly docked at a Crew Quarters. And Upkeep includes Alloys! Granted it’s only a decimal amount per Corvette, and you save only a fraction of that, but it adds up over time.
Me: *scrolling through Twitter, comes across tweet about the 2-year anniversary of Carrie Fisher's death* Jon: Ooh, ooh, I've found Courascant! Now that's a bloody big coincidence...
Wait....how does that make sense, unless the first league quest has changed significantly. Wouldn't that make Rome a fallen empire, since all of the text suggests the first league was significantly advanced compared to your own, and the Romans are currently behind where Jon is?
Presumably the "+33% damage to ancient mining droids" etc. options are for if your empire has spawned with a bunch of them in different systems, blocking off expansion or important resources.
For military starbases each weapon provides a +1 range to it's protection while adding +5 for missiles and guns and +10 for hangers. The idea is you can have a big starbase with a lot of fighters that handle protection against pirates while your fleets are freed for more pressing issues. Depending on the value one starbase might not be enough or may be overkill but it is something to keep in mind as like I said if your in the middle of a war your fleets will need to be away, but if the piracy gets out of control you could be crippled back home
John they changed how naval capacity worked slightly. Building a stronghold now gives soldier jobs that boost your naval capacity by a substantial margin. This also gives you the bonus of generating 2 defensive armies 3 when boosted to a fortress. This saves you from having to build anchorages all over the place freeing up valuable slots on your star bases.
Gotta love Jon complaining about his scientists not thinking the song signal in Fen Habbanis is from the First League when literally one sentence later which *obviously Jon doesn't read* it is explained that it's coming from somewhere *outside the galaxy.* Sometimes Jon is just too Jon for the sanity of all of us.
It might work well if you declare on the Uthonians for subjugation, capturer their home world, and then intentionally settle the status quo. That way, you rob them of their best planet while also making a new subsidiary that will hopefully be less antagonistic.
Since the fleet names are based on a murder of crows, wouldn't it be more appropriate to name them after parts of your own empire, rather than your enemies?
1:01:50 Why not set up a trade for Minerals? Gives you more room to trade stuff around, and gives you more raw minerals to play with. 1:08:10 Yeah, I think I heard that those Guns and Missiles you build on starbases each increases your Anti-Piracy bonuses. 1:17:10 EXTERMINATUS!
Can you liberate some of the Uthonian space? Then you could effectively carve out a subsidiary empire from them, which would more closely follow your own ideologies, and would hate you a lot less.
Just so you know with the market, if you don't put a price down for monthly purchases, you'll just buy or sell at market prices. You don't actually have to set a price.
I'm not sure if corporations can do it, but you could start a war of ideology against either the Uthonians or the Rontus, and force them to (a) alter their ethics in your favor, and (b) leave the federation. Then, once they are ethically more like you and friendlier, you could go to war to make them your vassal.
While it is possible as a Megacorp it's really not a good idea as the target empire will also become a Megacorp and start building branch offices which in turn prevent you from being able to build branch offices.
My personal opinion is to go for it the 4 allies you conjured of war and makeing friends give the tentacle face people a run for there money they been jerks for no reason for long time so just destroy them . Karma is not good for tentacle people
They protect the station in case pirates actually spawn in. But they do not decrease the piracy risk. Which is a huge issue as Trade routes inevitably become impossible to defend for wide empires until you create Gates to funnel your trade routes through those
Quick question: Currently in my first successful game and am finding the lag made by the current trade issue pretty awful for endgame performance. Is there a way to temporarily disable wormholes and gateways etc in your game? I don't mind putting the playthrough on hiatus until Paradox fixes it, but if I could keep playing with the trade lag not as bad that would be great. PS: Using the current beta, no real change.
The most upsetting part of this series, that Jon ruling over a totalitarian pirate kingdom ruling over another country taxes his subjugates less than what the US govt is taxing me
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Jon: *contacts Valdari to declare war*
Valdari "Would you like to see our ballpit? It's lot's of fun!"
Jon: No, I want to see you bleed!"
Valdari: *???????*
Ryan Cunningham they should hope that Jon doesn't want to tha them to the Prom
Jon:
"We are not the bad guys"
Also Jon:
"Let's name our fleet to humiliate our vassal"
Well at least he isnt pretending this time
Not humiliation, but a reminder of, "Don't fuck with us"
@supabunny this is also what i thought :)
@supabunny
Thats the joke...
He has a criminla sindicate, so... fitting?
Re: Ruined Ecumenopolis - The limit is correct, there is a limit of 25 districts. However, 20 districts are currently ruined, leaving only 5 behind. This value is reflected in the arcology districts. What you're seeing is not 0/5 of *each* but 0/5 possible. If you were to construct say, a Housing district, it'd be 1/5, but the others would be 0/4. This is because the values reflect potential. Since there are only five available districts, building one of a type will mean that there is a potential of four leftover. Clearing the ruined Arcologies raises the amount as you reclaim the ruins of Fen Habbanis.
Huh?
@@mm-xd5sd Stellaris' calculation of how many districts can be built gets a tiny bit confusing when you stop having limits (machine worlds lose the ability to have agriculture districts but also lose limits on mining and generator districts) but, as can most commonly be reflected in city districts, the first number is always the amount of that district you have, while the second number is the potential number of those districts if you build no other districts, this second number does not take into consideration how many other districts you can build but does take all limits into account, like blockers, or in the case of things like agricultural districts, actual planetary limits.
@@BrianatorFTW thanks
1:04:37 Its a sad day for the politics of the great Osprania when a 62 year old Owl is considered a "young kid" hahah
you could invade half of the rontus and settle a status quo to make the half a subsiduary, making a buffer state and the new subsiduary may not be as xenophobic.
Yea if you make a vassal they automatically become your civics even though the majority pops are otherwise and the pops slowly become the state civic by default. I think. Tell me if I'm wrong I'm new to the game. :3
For the purposes of the subsidiaries, will they be affected by governing ethics attraction if he does subjugate them? If so, won't they actually gradually like their new overlord? Or do the corps work differently? Maybe splitting the empire into a few smaller subsidiaries (via white peace) and letting their ethics drift towards your own is a solution.
@@sharkofjoy yea he should name them west/east/south/north then the empire name that would not only make it harder for them to revolt they would feel divided and hate each other for being so close.
"Starbase Modifier" - "That's for ships." Oh Jon.
Well it does say "+X on ships" so I always assumed it meant for ships and not the starbase.
My impression is that it affects Starbases, Platforms and Ships, as a system-wide “Aura” effect,
Jon, here's some more advice. Once again, hope you see this:
5:00-5:15 ) Two pieces of advice. 1, neither shipyards nor anchorages provide piracy support and 2, station "protection" provides a base cap that piracy must exceed to effect trade, but does not cause the amount of piracy present to decrease. Only fleets actually lower system piracy.
22:19-22:45 ) "Ecumenopolus" is a planet type, not a megastructure. If you choose the related ascension perk (Arcology Project), you can convert your own planets into them. They are absolute monsters for trade, alloy, and luxury good production, but you will need to have loads of energy and food to keep them going. P.S. Love that you kept calling it Coruscant. That is what I named my colony on the first league capital!
23:40-24:13 ) An extension of what @Simon Nyne said, the "ruined districts" act as tile blockers, just like hostile wildlife or volcanos. In my comment on the last video I talked a bit about blockers, but I'll reiterate and expand on that advice. Tile blockers decrease the max number of district slots (essentially decreasing the planet size) in addition to locking off certain districts of each type. Also, the "ruined arcologies" on Fen Habbanis III can't just be "fixed". Clearing them out is no different from removing tile blockers on other worlds.
24:13-24:31 ) I don't think those are bugs. That entire system is supposed to be absolutely lucrative. But I could be wrong.
36:20-26:24 ) Yes.
1:08:07-1:08:15 ) Each Gun/Missile Battery or Hangar provides trade protection AND +1 trade protection range.
Ahhh, yeah, I was getting confused between anchorages and hanger bays for trade protection - I will correct next time I'm looking at that :)
"When the League collapsed, food delivery stopped immidiatly and the Planet turned to Anarchy"
Jon: "Awesome, Lets Colonize this one!"
Me looking at his food supply: "Why do i feel like history is going to repeat itself?"
Jon: Tries to settle a planet sized city that's in massive disrepair.
Also Jon: Repairing all this is really expensive!
Jon, when building robots, click on the assembled pop to open a menu where you can decide which template should be built. Also, with star bases, when you put extra trade modules they extend trade collection by one each. This means that one strategically placed star base could cover a very wide chunk of space. It also means you could collect the trade from Prosperity remotely.
Yup. You can also do that with regular pops. Click on the growing square and select which option you want (grow: any, or only a specific species). I thought that’s what he would do when I got the sociology slaves but then I noticed he left it up to rng.
It's fun that you have a planet called Foundation and have effectively discovered Trantor
Felice Landry he needs to name a planet Terminus
I love that Foundation is the robot production hub of the empire. I know there weren't really any robots in the Foundation series, but a tenuous connection is a connection none the less!
Matt! About the neighbours to the north. Do a war of "Libration", and install a friendly government that have the same values as you, then they could join as vassels later
A group of crows are called a murder
The Great Amida a group of whales is a pod
A group of owls is called a parliament.
@@SonOfMuta Hey, I just googled it. I didn't see your post.
Actually, we don't know what a group of crows are called because we don't speak their language.
@@MadTurnip haha fonny
If you chose status quo during a subjugation war while controlling all their planets, then every system and planet you currently occupy become a new empire under you. The systems you didn't occupy will have their starbase destroyed and become unoccupied by any empire and must have a starbase rebuilt by someone.
Jon, if ever you want to help in a war but can't reach the combatants, just funnel them huge amounts of your excess resources. You're basically pulling a USA v USSR, from the cold war, only *IN SPACE!* If you give enough resources you'll reduce the strain on their economy and actually allow them to actually focus on building what they need to fight the war, if... you know... that's your thing...
If John subjugates the Uthonians they will like John 338 more than right now (388) because they will now longer have the penalties for rivalry, border friction, etc. Additionaly they will gain a +25 opinion for being a subject AND the trust will increase the opinion over time
Jon you need to secure the Xir system. Currently you do not share a border with the Tyals and whenever the Rontor close their borders, they have to go through the Qiramulan territory to reinforce you which could also get closed off. Thankfully, with the Rontor and Uthonians in a federation, the Tyals can attack through Xir. Had they stayed in a defensive pact, then it would've been a long time before Tyal reinforcements showed up to help had the Rontor attacked.
Also, look at the Diplomacy adoption bonus. It's broken when combined with your Fanatical Xenophile ethic.
Don't worry - I'll make sure Xir changes hands when the war happens - though I THINK the Tiyal already have claims down, so I'll probably just let them have it.
@@ManyATrueNerd If you switch to the Diplomacy map mode and click their empire, then any systems that they do have claims on will have a blue hexagon by the name.
"I just want to move the border a little bit ..." Oh, yeah. That NEVER ends well.
I got lucky with my first MegaCorp, I spawned in next to pacifist xenophobes who generated 4 primitives, so every time the primitives got kicked out they came to fill up my slave population. At the height of my game I was making so much money and minerals I'd keep hitting the cap every 4 years or so. MegaCorps are SCARY powerful if you spec into them correctly. Criminal heritage seems to make the whole thing a bit more 'hard-mode' from what I'm seeing with this series, because my playthrough was a cakewalk.
You don’t need to have a huge-ass 1800 or 2200 Strength naval stack out on piracy suppression. A few Corvettes - or perhaps just even one - is sufficient in most cases. Ships that are out in space require a bunch more Upkeep than ships that are docked (yellow icon) which again require more than ships properly docked at a Crew Quarters. And Upkeep includes Alloys!
Granted it’s only a decimal amount per Corvette, and you save only a fraction of that, but it adds up over time.
Me: *scrolling through Twitter, comes across tweet about the 2-year anniversary of Carrie Fisher's death*
Jon: Ooh, ooh, I've found Courascant!
Now that's a bloody big coincidence...
the Ganvius probably have Romans in their world from an old migration treaty, that is why you can build Roman Colony ships
Stellaris is a great series! Please continue.
With the right perks/edicts for ruler opinion attraction, even hostile subjects become less backstabbing over time
The owlmerta shall be the greatest protection racket in the galaxy
The Romans showed up as possible settlers because it said they were the founding members of the Empire (which I assume means the First League)
Wait....how does that make sense, unless the first league quest has changed significantly. Wouldn't that make Rome a fallen empire, since all of the text suggests the first league was significantly advanced compared to your own, and the Romans are currently behind where Jon is?
Presumably the "+33% damage to ancient mining droids" etc. options are for if your empire has spawned with a bunch of them in different systems, blocking off expansion or important resources.
For military starbases each weapon provides a +1 range to it's protection while adding +5 for missiles and guns and +10 for hangers. The idea is you can have a big starbase with a lot of fighters that handle protection against pirates while your fleets are freed for more pressing issues. Depending on the value one starbase might not be enough or may be overkill but it is something to keep in mind as like I said if your in the middle of a war your fleets will need to be away, but if the piracy gets out of control you could be crippled back home
Hai
John they changed how naval capacity worked slightly. Building a stronghold now gives soldier jobs that boost your naval capacity by a substantial margin. This also gives you the bonus of generating 2 defensive armies 3 when boosted to a fortress. This saves you from having to build anchorages all over the place freeing up valuable slots on your star bases.
Gotta love Jon complaining about his scientists not thinking the song signal in Fen Habbanis is from the First League when literally one sentence later which *obviously Jon doesn't read* it is explained that it's coming from somewhere *outside the galaxy.*
Sometimes Jon is just too Jon for the sanity of all of us.
Oh Jon, Stelaris is just Politics in a nutshell
This Let's Play is turning out really well. Definitely my favorite LP from 2.2 on TH-cam right now.
Leave it to the British to say taxing their colony’s is fair
Spencer Sullivan this isn't taxing, it's just a little money to make sure Jon "protects" them
Rome probably just has a migration treaty with someone that you have a migration treaty with/works for you.
It might work well if you declare on the Uthonians for subjugation, capturer their home world, and then intentionally settle the status quo. That way, you rob them of their best planet while also making a new subsidiary that will hopefully be less antagonistic.
been checking every two hours for the last 2 days and its came!
Since the fleet names are based on a murder of crows, wouldn't it be more appropriate to name them after parts of your own empire, rather than your enemies?
1:01:50 Why not set up a trade for Minerals? Gives you more room to trade stuff around, and gives you more raw minerals to play with.
1:08:10 Yeah, I think I heard that those Guns and Missiles you build on starbases each increases your Anti-Piracy bonuses.
1:17:10 EXTERMINATUS!
Can you liberate some of the Uthonian space? Then you could effectively carve out a subsidiary empire from them, which would more closely follow your own ideologies, and would hate you a lot less.
Want a luxury apartment?
Want to live large with simple yet luxury lives?
Come to Cornwall and farm our fields!
It's a Quackuisition!
you should re name the ecumenopolis new vegas
The Dalek Federation Did Nothing Wrong.
John it's a clerk not a Clark! Loving this series though
perception -1 charisma +1
Just so you know with the market, if you don't put a price down for monthly purchases, you'll just buy or sell at market prices. You don't actually have to set a price.
"We're just going to charge a very respectable 25% tax, very reasonable!"
Taxation....without representation.....sounds a bit familiar.
I'm not sure if corporations can do it, but you could start a war of ideology against either the Uthonians or the Rontus, and force them to (a) alter their ethics in your favor, and (b) leave the federation. Then, once they are ethically more like you and friendlier, you could go to war to make them your vassal.
While it is possible as a Megacorp it's really not a good idea as the target empire will also become a Megacorp and start building branch offices which in turn prevent you from being able to build branch offices.
Patiently waiting for the C.L.A.
I've only just noticed Jon can't see anything obvious or do maths intelligence and perception 1 moments
Hai
Was anybody else yelling at their screen that Jon had a couple of Exotic gas mines that he didn't build when he got the tech to do so?
He doesn't know what a 'murder of' something means in that context? Dear oh dear
I know this is old now but I really hope you eventually stick an Admiral in your second fleet because it's driving me NUTS every time you click on it.
Jon if you have population control enable you can click on the growing and assembling pops to change which ones are produced.
Subjugate, don't conquer
Can vassals ever be absorb into the empire? Like over civ games?
Eventually I see Jon having to do that if he doesn't want to have a million vassals.
Yes, it's called subject integration
but having vassals is great, at least for feudal empires, i haven't tried it with corps (but i assume so because it keeps the sprawl down)
@@comyuse9103 It isn't so great if you rely on the minerals or food or all of the energy in the sector
It's the Friendliest kind of Hostile Takeover. Promise!
My personal opinion is to go for it the 4 allies you conjured of war and makeing friends give the tentacle face people a run for there money they been jerks for no reason for long time so just destroy them . Karma is not good for tentacle people
We found benor!
Is it Ecumonopolises or Ecumonopoli?
Oxford declared a few years back, that the plural of octopus, is octopuses. So I would argue Ecumonopolis, would be Ecumonopolises.
Fort Money Pit
I haven't seen the AI build fleets until patch 2.2.2. Seriously.
Beats empires face in trust me its a promotion
Do Defence Platforms spread along your trade route protect it from pirates?
On-station guns/missile batteries do, but it doesn't scale so eventually you'll need fleets of corvs to patrol. But that's not till 2400s
No. Only the weapon modules on the starbase itself affect piracy.
They protect the station in case pirates actually spawn in. But they do not decrease the piracy risk. Which is a huge issue as Trade routes inevitably become impossible to defend for wide empires until you create Gates to funnel your trade routes through those
Quick question: Currently in my first successful game and am finding the lag made by the current trade issue pretty awful for endgame performance.
Is there a way to temporarily disable wormholes and gateways etc in your game? I don't mind putting the playthrough on hiatus until Paradox fixes it, but if I could keep playing with the trade lag not as bad that would be great. PS: Using the current beta, no real change.
Nope. Have to turn them off pre-game.
thinks I need to get a gaming pc lmao any advice be handy lol
subsiduary
48:00
The most upsetting part of this series, that Jon ruling over a totalitarian pirate kingdom ruling over another country taxes his subjugates less than what the US govt is taxing me
I'm early for once
Jonald trump starts a trade war 😂
Sure wish this was something worth watching.
Second
First
I sit and watch as a construction and science ship sleep. ZZZZZZZZZ