I love that I could send this to my boyfriend to print one off. They look professional. The tree looking one is unique! Thank you for a minimalist, cohesive, understandable video.
I love the quality of these videos. I'm really shocked by the low number of subs! Also, the content itself is incredible. It is so useful when designing or searching for something for 3D printing.
@@FilamentFabrication I think something to test would be all of the different storage systems for walls and for bins. Examples would be Multiboard, Honeycomb, Gridfinity, etc. It may take a few videos. They also have shelving that seem to hold a lot, especially Multiboard.
Not sure if I can add anything to the video at this point but I'll look into it and will include that in the next one. Thanks for the input and giving it a watch!
I saw a TH-camr use quick passes with a torch lighter to remove stringing on a print. I do it that way now, it's amazing, as long as you move the flame very quickly the print won't melt but the stringing will vanish like magic.
Great point the blowtorch works great for cleaning up stringing we were just trying to show how it came out straight out of the build plate before we cleaned it up but we should have mentioned that tip. We appreciate the suggestion!
Thank you so much for this! I've been pondering shelf bracket designs for my mancave for a while now and was worried about flex over time. Subscribed and looking forward to the follow up!
I thought this channel at least have 100K sub, great video, I always worry making 3d printed bracket for electronic, this video convince me that they are strong enough and some not very optimal, now I have design reference what work and what not and probably test it as well, thank you!
Very nice. I recommend using cylinder modifiers to selectively increase wall thickness around the screw holes. Can also be used to selectively increase sparse infill to save time and filament and increase strength.
Thank you for taking the time and energy to make this, very interesting and informative. It seems as though having a mounting hole as close as possible to the actual shelf greatly increases stability, which makes sense when I think about it. I would consider the use of carbon fiber or glass filled filament (not PLA) if you can tolerate the colors available, as these are much stiffer and will resist flexing. Thanks again!
Good video. The only thing I would have liked to see is a discussion or comparison between print orientation. One would think that printing flat would be stronger, which makes me wonder if the organic designs are even stronger than they seem.
Thank you, appreciate you saying that. That's a great point! We went with the designers recommendations for these brackets but I know it can make quite a difference in terms of strength.
Did the ones that started to pull away from the wall early all have the top screw lower than the ones that typically did not? It looked like where they started to pull away from the wall was up to the point they were attached. I also wonder if this lever point also amplified some of the wobbliness on some of these shelves. Thanks for this video, I'm looking at replacing some L brackets the previous owner installed that are always bouncy.
Same! Unusually rigorous for a 3d printing content creator. Plus he built his own wall which jibes with my motto: “anything worth doing is worth overdoing” 👍
Very informative video. I like the style. It would be nice if you could add the metric values because it's a bit annoying if you have to leave the app to check the conversion and then calculate throughout the video.
Could we get some info on the filament you used to print these? Your difficulties with stringing and poor overhang support seem consistent with wet filament. You might also be using cheap white filament that might use titanium dioxide as a colorant, which often results in poor performance.
Thanks for the reminder! I will link the filament we used in the description. It’s a Hatchbox White PETG and we keep our filament in the factory sealed bags until we use it. Once opened it’s kept in a humidity controlled case to try and keep the conditions optimal. This one was a brand new roll we used for the tests but it’s definitely something to look into. I wasn’t aware of the titanium dioxide I appreciate you sharing that.
I'd go with the overhead supports for shelves. Looks like petg stretches more than it compresses, there's also more material to stretch compared to the others. I would tweak the design to print with 88-87 degrees so that it settles around 90, but the amount of deflection will depend on print settings, material and size. Also, thanks for doing these tests using PETG, I never print with anything else lately.
Just some little advice for your consideration. These designs are of clearly different own mass (consumption of filament) and dimensions (depth and height). In those small bracket experiment, the center of the dumbbells are almost over the depth of the shelf bracket, which is clearly a bad situation of mechanical load. While some designs have different sizes available, I didn't aware of any principle explained for your choice. Obviously, the choice of size affects the result very much. It is practically impossible for a truly fair test. I think it is good to provide some objective reference for comparison, such as the own mass of the shelf brackets. For example, design A of 100 grams for max 30 pounds compared to design B of 50 grams for max 25 pounds. Clearly, they both have their advantages (in other words, pros and cons).
Those are valid points, we appreciate the feedback and understand are a lot of variables. These tests are very general. Our goal was to see what these specific designs and settings were capable of so the average 3D printing enthusiast can decide if it’s going to work for them and so you guys can improve on where we might have gone wrong in order to get your best possible prints.
look at how close the top screw holds the bracket to the wall.. this will do a lot to inform you re: bracket strength. second factor is the support arm strength.. high screw and strong arm = strong shelf. :-)
Honestly I wasn't planning on the video being viewed outside of the US but it's a good reminder to include both Imperial and metric moving forward. Thanks.
@@FilamentFabrication No probs... was bit harsh of me I admit... just that we non-US (96% of the globe) hear way too much of the 4%'s perspective at times. Seeya mate ;)
I love that I could send this to my boyfriend to print one off. They look professional. The tree looking one is unique! Thank you for a minimalist, cohesive, understandable video.
Glad you liked the video we really appreciate the support!
TH-cam just recommended this to me. Like, it's also anticipating the long term video.
I love the quality of these videos. I'm really shocked by the low number of subs! Also, the content itself is incredible. It is so useful when designing or searching for something for 3D printing.
Thank you so much for the kind words and support that really means a lot to us! Let us know if you have a category you would like us to test next.
@@FilamentFabrication I think something to test would be all of the different storage systems for walls and for bins. Examples would be Multiboard, Honeycomb, Gridfinity, etc. It may take a few videos. They also have shelving that seem to hold a lot, especially Multiboard.
I can't wait for part 2!
Thanks for giving the video a watch. Part 2 is now live here's the link -
th-cam.com/video/BR3-6iH3N1Q/w-d-xo.html
Love the overhead shelves, so simple yet effective.
Same here, thanks for giving the video a watch and commenting!
Thank You for your effort! I'm very impressed by the first organic bracket.
You're welcome. We were impressed by that bracket as well the designer did a wonderful job with that one.
thanks for taking the time to run tests & share!
Your welcome! Let us know what you would like us to test next!
This is incredibly well done and helps filter good designs from worse very well. Bravo
Thank you so much! I'm so glad you liked it!
Can you add table summarizing result at the end? It's almost perfect
Not sure if I can add anything to the video at this point but I'll look into it and will include that in the next one. Thanks for the input and giving it a watch!
This has been really helpful. Thanks.
Your welcome, thanks for giving the video a watch!
Wow, what a high quality video. Just subbed!
Thanks for subscribing! Much appreciated!
awesome content!
Glad you enjoyed it! Thank you for the kind words!
I saw a TH-camr use quick passes with a torch lighter to remove stringing on a print. I do it that way now, it's amazing, as long as you move the flame very quickly the print won't melt but the stringing will vanish like magic.
Great point the blowtorch works great for cleaning up stringing we were just trying to show how it came out straight out of the build plate before we cleaned it up but we should have mentioned that tip. We appreciate the suggestion!
Great informative video👍 working on a bookshelf shelf design of my own so it’s cool to see what’s out there, keep up the good work!
Thanks! Will do! I hope your bookshelf project goes well. Let us know how it turns out!
Thank you so much for this! I've been pondering shelf bracket designs for my mancave for a while now and was worried about flex over time. Subscribed and looking forward to the follow up!
I thought this channel at least have 100K sub, great video, I always worry making 3d printed bracket for electronic, this video convince me that they are strong enough and some not very optimal, now I have design reference what work and what not and probably test it as well, thank you!
That's very kind of you to say. I'm glad the video helped!
Well, im subscibing and turning on notifications. Awesome channel, very statistical and quite objective 👍
We're glad to have you! Thank you so much for the support, we appreciate it!
Great channel!!
Thank you!
Very nice. I recommend using cylinder modifiers to selectively increase wall thickness around the screw holes. Can also be used to selectively increase sparse infill to save time and filament and increase strength.
Thanks for the input and tip. We will have to try that out on our next print.
I wonder if washers on the overhead design would help with squareness
Thank you for taking the time and energy to make this, very interesting and informative. It seems as though having a mounting hole as close as possible to the actual shelf greatly increases stability, which makes sense when I think about it. I would consider the use of carbon fiber or glass filled filament (not PLA) if you can tolerate the colors available, as these are much stiffer and will resist flexing. Thanks again!
Really cool video! Thanks
Thank you! I appreciate you giving it a watch!
Good video. The only thing I would have liked to see is a discussion or comparison between print orientation. One would think that printing flat would be stronger, which makes me wonder if the organic designs are even stronger than they seem.
Great analysis of the brackets, really solid video. Part of me wonders how much the layer axis affects the strength, versus just overall design.
Thank you, appreciate you saying that. That's a great point! We went with the designers recommendations for these brackets but I know it can make quite a difference in terms of strength.
Great video!
Thank you so much for taking the time to give it a watch!
How in the heck did you screw in the top screw in the organic shelf?
What about how much a chain could hold would be cool.
I like that idea! Thanks for the suggestion!
Did the ones that started to pull away from the wall early all have the top screw lower than the ones that typically did not? It looked like where they started to pull away from the wall was up to the point they were attached. I also wonder if this lever point also amplified some of the wobbliness on some of these shelves. Thanks for this video, I'm looking at replacing some L brackets the previous owner installed that are always bouncy.
Surprising results. I was thinking the Norse pattern wouldn't help much with structural integrity since it's a separate part but it did.
We were surprised as well how great that bracket did. Thanks for giving the video a watch!
Great video!, you got a new sub :)
Same! Unusually rigorous for a 3d printing content creator. Plus he built his own wall which jibes with my motto: “anything worth doing is worth overdoing” 👍
Thank you I really appreciate that!
Very informative video. I like the style. It would be nice if you could add the metric values because it's a bit annoying if you have to leave the app to check the conversion and then calculate throughout the video.
Glad you liked it. I can understand that. We will include both units of measurement in our next videos.
thanks much very helpful !!!
Glad it helped! You're welcome.
Could we get some info on the filament you used to print these? Your difficulties with stringing and poor overhang support seem consistent with wet filament. You might also be using cheap white filament that might use titanium dioxide as a colorant, which often results in poor performance.
Thanks for the reminder! I will link the filament we used in the description. It’s a Hatchbox White PETG and we keep our filament in the factory sealed bags until we use it. Once opened it’s kept in a humidity controlled case to try and keep the conditions optimal. This one was a brand new roll we used for the tests but it’s definitely something to look into. I wasn’t aware of the titanium dioxide I appreciate you sharing that.
Well built video. Continue the equality content and your subscriber count will go up. You certainly got mine 😊
Thank you so much for the support and for subscribing as well, we really appreciate it!
I'd go with the overhead supports for shelves. Looks like petg stretches more than it compresses, there's also more material to stretch compared to the others.
I would tweak the design to print with 88-87 degrees so that it settles around 90, but the amount of deflection will depend on print settings, material and size.
Also, thanks for doing these tests using PETG, I never print with anything else lately.
You're welcome. That sounds like a great approach to those overhead brackets. Let us know how they turn out!
great video thanks
Thank you, we appreciate that!
Thank you !
You're welcome! Glad you enjoyed it.
Just some little advice for your consideration.
These designs are of clearly different own mass (consumption of filament) and dimensions (depth and height).
In those small bracket experiment, the center of the dumbbells are almost over the depth of the shelf bracket, which is clearly a bad situation of mechanical load.
While some designs have different sizes available, I didn't aware of any principle explained for your choice. Obviously, the choice of size affects the result very much.
It is practically impossible for a truly fair test. I think it is good to provide some objective reference for comparison, such as the own mass of the shelf brackets.
For example, design A of 100 grams for max 30 pounds compared to design B of 50 grams for max 25 pounds. Clearly, they both have their advantages (in other words, pros and cons).
Those are valid points, we appreciate the feedback and understand are a lot of variables. These tests are very general. Our goal was to see what these specific designs and settings were capable of so the average 3D printing enthusiast can decide if it’s going to work for them and so you guys can improve on where we might have gone wrong in order to get your best possible prints.
look at how close the top screw holds the bracket to the wall.. this will do a lot to inform you re: bracket strength.
second factor is the support arm strength.. high screw and strong arm = strong shelf. :-)
Great observation, thanks for pointing that out!
Part 2?
Part 2 is now live here's the link - th-cam.com/video/BR3-6iH3N1Q/w-d-xo.html
in be4 your channel blows up
We appreciate the support. Thank you!
one month to go
Here's the link to the follow up video if you're interested - th-cam.com/video/BR3-6iH3N1Q/w-d-xo.html
I would also recommend replying or liking g a few comments if you are interested in subs.
Great tip, will do!
Really? I subscribe because of quality, not hugs.
dammit with these imperial units mate, seriously
I honestly didn't think the video would get viewed outside the US. Moving forward I will include metric units as well.
@@FilamentFabrication there are a lot of printers outside the US :D Thanks anyway, fun video
What's a pound? Is that something like a kilogram from the 1700's?
Honestly I wasn't planning on the video being viewed outside of the US but it's a good reminder to include both Imperial and metric moving forward. Thanks.
You shouldn’t use maker world they do steal designs off printables without attribution
Thanks for the heads up I've never heard of that before. We always want to make sure we are giving credit to the correct designers.
Do you have a source for this? None of my designs were stolen, at least.
It happens the other way around too. Lots of original models on MakerWorld.
Makerworld can be so sketchy. They released a marble racing print and don’t allow remixing for whatever reason…
@@brody2642 There's tons of models on printables too that don't allow remixing. It's up to the model designers how to license them.
have you never heard of thing called 'metric'? its not new
I can include both imperial and metric measurements on future videos if that would help. I appreciate the feedback.
@@FilamentFabrication No probs... was bit harsh of me I admit... just that we non-US (96% of the globe) hear way too much of the 4%'s perspective at times. Seeya mate ;)