2 years ago i bought myself an ebike its the Canyon Endurace On, it is the best purchase of my life, i am enjoying it so much, now i can explore those area only i can dream of before, i live in Mallorca where the best cycling route is in the mountain with lots of climbs....this new Grizl On looks really nice,..time to save some money!
I put 40mm tires on my EnduraceON back in 2020 and ride Canyon E Gravel that way since before the GrailON or GrizlON at merely 14kg for the aluminum bike with the amazing Fazua engine. Awesome bike with the 2in1 Fazua removable engine. Love it just like you! Sad they stopped making it.
Wait until you get a fat tire ebike. Seriously. I understand that they are nothing like a road bike, but in terms of exploring different areas, you can do so much with them. Best bet is to have 3 bikes. A true road bike, your Canyon, and a fat tire which can go off road.
Like many commenters here, I used to be an anti-e-bike snob. One morning an overweight rider on an e-bike told me that was the only way he could continue his love of riding after he had been diagnosed with heart disease. That made me question my snobbery. People ride e-bikes for lots of reasons. Like David says, e-bikes are here to stay.
Was one too, until my operation for damaged nerves on my ankle, a stroke, pre diabetes and age that lead to muscle loss. Would have given up on my passion for cycling until the ebike came along.
Hell, I'm perfectly capable of riding my Endurace around, and I still wont say no to going silly fast! People will always complain for the sake of complaining. The fact is, engineering is awesome and we are allowed to like all of it, regardless of if we 'need' it
Sony makes great cameras that will not lose focus all the time. Also, if you setting your camera around f8 ish should help keep you in focus. Love your channel.
As an older cyclist of 74 still riding and touring good distances I recognise the time will come to buy an e-bike. It's ability to keep me riding for another few years puts into perspective any narrow minded quibbling from the usually able bodied purists. One apparent trend in e-bikes that does puzzle me is the number of newer models that have in-built batteries. For people like me who wish to go touring on an e-bike or live in a flat / apartment the prospect of carrying a heavy e-bike to a charging socket or to an hotel room is a significant barrier.
Just bought the Grail On (first generation) this morning at a nice discount. Some emerging heart issues after 40 years of regular and sometimes hard riding means that it is no longer smart to be banging out a very high heart rate on the big gravel climbs of the Jura. Can’t wait for delivery.
I recently bought a Bianchi e-Impulso gravel bike to commute on. I live in Australia (grew up in UK) and my daily ride is generally along a river path with plenty of ruts and tree roots etc. I easily managed it previously on my MTb, but decided I wanted a bit of assist for days where the weather isn’t ideal (although heat is more of an issue here than rain!). The e-bike isn’t a perfect solution - the speed cut out at 25kph is too low, and most of my riding is higher than that. However, the starts through the city away from the lights are nice and if it is warm, I just ease my pace and spin at a cadence that keeps me below 25kph. You have to use the various assistance modes like gears as once you are cruising, the highest level of intervention cuts in and drops out and applies what feels like an e-brake as you cross the magic 25kph. Consider these lower powered e-bikes like a gentle tail wind, or someone giving a gentle nudge on your saddle to help you along.
I made a submission to the government consultation on increasing e-bike power. I said I think there should be a modest increase in power to 350w, not 500w, but also an increase in the speed to 18-20mph for regular e-bikes. This will allow for faster but safe commuting and less dangerous acceleration from standstill. A throttle should be allowed to help cross roads. Hope they listen.
I was planning on buying the Santa Cruz Skitch so my wife could join me on gravel rides. I wonder how this new canyon would work (geometry/handling wise) with a flat bar installed instead of the drop bars (assuming axs version). The Skitch is more expensive and I would want to add the sus fork - making it even more expensive.
SO MANY (!) e-bike companies skip this safety feature and I personally wouldn't buy an e-bike without them!! Especially high-end e-bikes like this! Trek puts them on their cheaper e-bikes and then skips them on the high-end bikes to save weight?! Stupidity!!
I bought a CF7 & 200+kms last week, great fun to ride, more tech gravel capable than a tradition Gravel Bike, with its 69.5deg head, Rudy fork & 50mm G-ones.....can't leave it alone ;-)
I have the cannondale neo topstone with the big bosch motor. It's a lot of fun. 2kg heavier than this yoke with battery attached. You don't need 80nm of torque. 40-55 is plenty.
Been riding e gravel for years. Have 2x 500 custom battery setup wired in. Let's me do centuries. These companies should catch up with offerings of multi battery setup options. 400 is way too short for most of my needs/wants.
If it gets more people to ride (gravel)bikes, i think it’s great. Perfect if you had some injury, or recovering or just want to be fast. I can see it fit for some.
An e-gravel bike with front suspension would be great where I used to live high in the Rocky Mountains where dirt roads were 4x4 tracks and everything was so steep you had to have pro power to get real miles in. But, other than that or for older riders looking for some assistance, I don't see the point. If I was in the market for something like this I'd get the Creo over this with no hesitation.
I have standard Grizzl and love that a lot...And I definitely need one with Bosch SX, cause of my aorthal aneuresma (hearth limited by 140Bpm)... Problem is only price. Selling stocks is not good idea, but.... Cycling is drug, you know. :D
I too was looking at the Creo 2, but got this one coming now. We shall see, but for the similar priced models you get carbon wheels, suspension fork, reliable Bosch, built in front and rear lights, as well as wireless shifting. Way better bang for the buck,
I am looking into this bike since is about $2k cheaper than the Cervelo Rouvida. But, I don't want to have the suspension front fork. Do you know if the front fork can be replaced by the non-suspension Grizl front fork?
Nice looking bike, although at my age and health level I definitely don't have any need for an e-bike. Are those Shimano PD-M520 pedals I spy there on your tester? Absolutely the best value for money for a pedal in my book - pretty much bulletproof. I have them on all of my bikes, even my road bike.
Not sure I would buy an e-bike thinking I would go for longer rides, battery life on these small batteries is not great. I think it is more suited for someone who wants to ride steeper terrain but doesn't have the physical ability to do so
I like the idea but would rather not have a carbon bike. Last week, an idiot of a pedestrian mistook the separated bike path for an extension of the footpath and pushed my bike and I onto the ground. I was injured and my bike has some deep scratches. The incident could have been even more unfortunate with a carbon bike.
I was very interested in this bike, but after research I realized that Canyons are direct sales, for an ordinary bike this should be no problem, but for e-bikes that have more complex parts like computers, how is servicing done? Risky?
The gen4 bosch sx motor connects to your phone using the flow app. All software updates are downloaded via the app. I wouldn't worry about direct sales.
Why on earth would you want a drop bar position when your motor is pushing you to 25 km/h anyhow? On top, since one is not pushing pedals all that hard, leg power will support the upper body even less. Must be for the true masos out there!
The battery belongs in a wheelchair for those who cannot move with their own limbs and not in a bicycle. It is no longer a bicycle, but an instrument for the physically handicapped. During last year's season my friend and I rode our bikes up one challenging hill. In the meantime, as we were catching our breath, two fat pensioners on electric bikes arrived on the same hill and immediately took out a pack of cigarettes and lit up. So much for electric bikes. The reality of their use speaks for itself.
E-Bikes are good for elderly or unfit people, but they add tons of inconvenience and impracticality, you can't just leave them on the streets! They'd be stolen within 1 hour!
Yeah, if I was a Rich homeowner in a gated community(with a security force on the grounds!) and I could keep my $8000+! gravel e-bike locked in a cage inside a locked garage...😅 Then I could definitely get one!! Otherwise these make no sense for anyone who's trying to use as a commuter/car substitute where they'd be stolen in 10 minutes if you locked them outside of a store or work😢.... A beater car is way cheaper and less likely to get Knicked!!
2 years ago i bought myself an ebike its the Canyon Endurace On, it is the best purchase of my life, i am enjoying it so much, now i can explore those area only i can dream of before, i live in Mallorca where the best cycling route is in the mountain with lots of climbs....this new Grizl On looks really nice,..time to save some money!
Great to hear!
I put 40mm tires on my EnduraceON back in 2020 and ride Canyon E Gravel that way since before the GrailON or GrizlON at merely 14kg for the aluminum bike with the amazing Fazua engine. Awesome bike with the 2in1 Fazua removable engine. Love it just like you! Sad they stopped making it.
Wait until you get a fat tire ebike. Seriously. I understand that they are nothing like a road bike, but in terms of exploring different areas, you can do so much with them. Best bet is to have 3 bikes. A true road bike, your Canyon, and a fat tire which can go off road.
Missed opportunity to call it the Grizl:E (grizzly)
Genius. I know you’re a Dad
Or, to start another premium bike called "Canyondale"
😂
Like many commenters here, I used to be an anti-e-bike snob. One morning an overweight rider on an e-bike told me that was the only way he could continue his love of riding after he had been diagnosed with heart disease. That made me question my snobbery.
People ride e-bikes for lots of reasons. Like David says, e-bikes are here to stay.
🙏
Yeah my knees are bollixed from 15 years of commuting. Love me neo.
Yeah, right! The guy with the hearth disease shouldnt travel to places where only emergengy from air is possible😅😂
Was one too, until my operation for damaged nerves on my ankle, a stroke, pre diabetes and age that lead to muscle loss. Would have given up on my passion for cycling until the ebike came along.
Hell, I'm perfectly capable of riding my Endurace around, and I still wont say no to going silly fast! People will always complain for the sake of complaining. The fact is, engineering is awesome and we are allowed to like all of it, regardless of if we 'need' it
Sony makes great cameras that will not lose focus all the time. Also, if you setting your camera around f8 ish should help keep you in focus. Love your channel.
As an older cyclist of 74 still riding and touring good distances I recognise the time will come to buy an e-bike. It's ability to keep me riding for another few years puts into perspective any narrow minded quibbling from the usually able bodied purists.
One apparent trend in e-bikes that does puzzle me is the number of newer models that have in-built batteries. For people like me who wish to go touring on an e-bike or live in a flat / apartment the prospect of carrying a heavy e-bike to a charging socket or to an hotel room is a significant barrier.
Just bought the Grail On (first generation) this morning at a nice discount. Some emerging heart issues after 40 years of regular and sometimes hard riding means that it is no longer smart to be banging out a very high heart rate on the big gravel climbs of the Jura. Can’t wait for delivery.
arrhythmia?
I recently bought a Bianchi e-Impulso gravel bike to commute on. I live in Australia (grew up in UK) and my daily ride is generally along a river path with plenty of ruts and tree roots etc.
I easily managed it previously on my MTb, but decided I wanted a bit of assist for days where the weather isn’t ideal (although heat is more of an issue here than rain!). The e-bike isn’t a perfect solution - the speed cut out at 25kph is too low, and most of my riding is higher than that. However, the starts through the city away from the lights are nice and if it is warm, I just ease my pace and spin at a cadence that keeps me below 25kph. You have to use the various assistance modes like gears as once you are cruising, the highest level of intervention cuts in and drops out and applies what feels like an e-brake as you cross the magic 25kph.
Consider these lower powered e-bikes like a gentle tail wind, or someone giving a gentle nudge on your saddle to help you along.
I made a submission to the government consultation on increasing e-bike power. I said I think there should be a modest increase in power to 350w, not 500w, but also an increase in the speed to 18-20mph for regular e-bikes. This will allow for faster but safe commuting and less dangerous acceleration from standstill. A throttle should be allowed to help cross roads. Hope they listen.
I was planning on buying the Santa Cruz Skitch so my wife could join me on gravel rides.
I wonder how this new canyon would work (geometry/handling wise) with a flat bar installed instead of the drop bars (assuming axs version).
The Skitch is more expensive and I would want to add the sus fork - making it even more expensive.
Integrated lights are a game changer.❤❤
SO MANY (!) e-bike companies skip this safety feature and I personally wouldn't buy an e-bike without them!! Especially high-end e-bikes like this! Trek puts them on their cheaper e-bikes and then skips them on the high-end bikes to save weight?! Stupidity!!
The creo is a cracking bike as well..❤❤ motor is unreal. Rode one for a week in Feb.
I want one but can’t get hold of them for 3 months
I have the Creo (version 2), Any comments on this one vs the brand S offering?
All my friend have been getting e-bikes and it’s been really hard to keep up with them on my road bike, might end up getting this
I bought a CF7 & 200+kms last week, great fun to ride, more tech gravel capable than a tradition Gravel Bike, with its 69.5deg head, Rudy fork & 50mm G-ones.....can't leave it alone ;-)
this will be good for work/after office commuting!!
Sharp looking, I got an orbea that I use for my zone 2 training
I've got a pedal moped for zone 1, a grifter for zone 3 , a bmx for zone 4 and a pair of running shoes for zone 5.
I have the cannondale neo topstone with the big bosch motor. It's a lot of fun. 2kg heavier than this yoke with battery attached.
You don't need 80nm of torque. 40-55 is plenty.
What did you like more, the specialized turbo creo or the grizl on?
Been riding e gravel for years. Have 2x 500 custom battery setup wired in. Let's me do centuries. These companies should catch up with offerings of multi battery setup options. 400 is way too short for most of my needs/wants.
If it gets more people to ride (gravel)bikes, i think it’s great. Perfect if you had some injury, or recovering or just want to be fast. I can see it fit for some.
An e-gravel bike with front suspension would be great where I used to live high in the Rocky Mountains where dirt roads were 4x4 tracks and everything was so steep you had to have pro power to get real miles in. But, other than that or for older riders looking for some assistance, I don't see the point. If I was in the market for something like this I'd get the Creo over this with no hesitation.
How is the noise compared with the Fuel Exe from Trek?
I have standard Grizzl and love that a lot...And I definitely need one with Bosch SX, cause of my aorthal aneuresma (hearth limited by 140Bpm)... Problem is only price. Selling stocks is not good idea, but.... Cycling is drug, you know. :D
Canyon needs this model with a regular fork.
Whats the warranty on the Bosch motor? I looked at the website and couldn't find it anywhere.
i cant decide between this and the creo 2. Does this have the same feel as the creo 2 when the battery is off?
I too was looking at the Creo 2, but got this one coming now. We shall see, but for the similar priced models you get carbon wheels, suspension fork, reliable Bosch, built in front and rear lights, as well as wireless shifting. Way better bang for the buck,
Savin for this already.🎉
I will probably buy an e-bike when I get to 75 or when I can't get up the hills anymore, 10yrs to go😆
WOW!!! 😎👍
I am looking into this bike since is about $2k cheaper than the Cervelo Rouvida. But, I don't want to have the suspension front fork. Do you know if the front fork can be replaced by the non-suspension Grizl front fork?
Just get the grail:on then
The Dylan Johnson gravel fork becoming mainstream!
I know its not your style of bikes, but have you ever seen or ridden a Nicolai GT1 EBOXX ??
Nice looking bike, although at my age and health level I definitely don't have any need for an e-bike. Are those Shimano PD-M520 pedals I spy there on your tester? Absolutely the best value for money for a pedal in my book - pretty much bulletproof. I have them on all of my bikes, even my road bike.
Looks fun
Not sure I would buy an e-bike thinking I would go for longer rides, battery life on these small batteries is not great. I think it is more suited for someone who wants to ride steeper terrain but doesn't have the physical ability to do so
I cycled 40 miles last weekend with 20 left on battery. You switch between modes..freewheel and pedal over 25km. So battery is not always on.
why no dropper post - can't be because of the weight ...
Top model does have one
mudguard on the front but not the back??
They do one with full mudguards
why not making it a speedelec? Helps to 25km/h but above that is just when you need it ....I don't see why
Yeah.❤
I like the idea but would rather not have a carbon bike. Last week, an idiot of a pedestrian mistook the separated bike path for an extension of the footpath and pushed my bike and I onto the ground. I was injured and my bike has some deep scratches. The incident could have been even more unfortunate with a carbon bike.
I was very interested in this bike, but after research I realized that Canyons are direct sales, for an ordinary bike this should be no problem, but for e-bikes that have more complex parts like computers, how is servicing done? Risky?
Have you asked Canyon what their policy is on e-bike servicing and aftersales care?
@@davidarthur I could do that and probably will, but it would be nice to have a clients perspective.
The gen4 bosch sx motor connects to your phone using the flow app. All software updates are downloaded via the app. I wouldn't worry about direct sales.
Why on earth would you want a drop bar position when your motor is pushing you to 25 km/h anyhow? On top, since one is not pushing pedals all that hard, leg power will support the upper body even less. Must be for the true masos out there!
So so many thousands of Euros.
Just what the world needs: Another motor cycle.
Hardly a motorcycle !!!
I love motorcycles and bikes
Can't get a motorbike on a train or roofcrack.😂😂
(rolls eyes) Another commentor who's never ridden a motorcycle and never ridden a pedal assist bike.
Sorry I’m one of the haters 🤷
Wait till you get one.
Why does this come with a zero offset seat post, but none of their race bikes do....makes no sense
Well, my gs1200 ride better and faster and more practical than this...
This is not the grizl ON!!!
it's not?? I'm confused...
The battery belongs in a wheelchair for those who cannot move with their own limbs and not in a bicycle. It is no longer a bicycle, but an instrument for the physically handicapped.
During last year's season my friend and I rode our bikes up one challenging hill. In the meantime, as we were catching our breath, two fat pensioners on electric bikes arrived on the same hill and immediately took out a pack of cigarettes and lit up.
So much for electric bikes. The reality of their use speaks for itself.
😂😂😂 Cheer up..can't be miserable all your life.
E-Bikes are good for elderly or unfit people, but they add tons of inconvenience and impracticality, you can't just leave them on the streets! They'd be stolen within 1 hour!
I can’t leave my bikes on the streets either, and they aren’t e-bikes.
Not only elderly or unfit, also people with injuries or health problems. This is a nice solution to be able to keep on riding.
Yeah, if I was a Rich homeowner in a gated community(with a security force on the grounds!) and I could keep my $8000+! gravel e-bike locked in a cage inside a locked garage...😅 Then I could definitely get one!! Otherwise these make no sense for anyone who's trying to use as a commuter/car substitute where they'd be stolen in 10 minutes if you locked them outside of a store or work😢.... A beater car is way cheaper and less likely to get Knicked!!
I'm fit..can swim a mile and fuc k for Yorkshire...I have an E ❤