The Black Lotus - Starstruck - Amiga Demo (AGA)
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I'm really amazed considering this hardware of 1990s. Really, Amiga was way ahead of all other computers.
Amiga was a dead end since day one, it was as limited as a game console hardware can be. BTW PC had two gen more advanced graphics in 90s...
I don't agree that amiga was ahead of anything, but the fact that the black lotus can squeeze this demo out of an m68000 is really a testament to what incredible coders TBL have.
@@ManOnBrokenHorse You kidding right? I mean Im not telling the Starstruck demo is not great, but it is not running on MC68000 at all, it is not running on any Amiga hardware actually, you need a "accelerator" card with 68060 CPU and at least 64MB RAM. Given the fact that 68060 was competing with Pentium, suddenly the demo is not as impressive as you initially claim.
All Amigas can be upgraded! Its been its policy since Amiga 1000 came out. So either its 060, 040, 030 or even PPC inside an Amiga. It is still an Amiga. In fact, Amiga is the most upgradeable computer ever made! Yes you can upgrade an A1200 with PCI slots and USB ports etc. You can get DVI output with Indivision AGA mk2 also! Amiga is the best computer ever released!
While I do agree that Amiga is the best computer ever released your logic implies that if a standard pc runs an Amiga emulator it is by definition an Amiga. Amiga for me is the motorola MC680x0, the custom hardware and above all: exec.library.
So true Michal, but Amiga suffered the most terrible marketing and management department EVER. the CEO's lacked vision and didn't rely on the incredible knowhow and potential the business had. The engineers worked 100 hours per week for a crappy salary. The marketing team, if hired by KFC would come up with 'Warm Dead Bird' as their best shot for a slogan.
@Svein:
Now your logic implies the same thing... exec.library is working on the emulated MC680x0 and custom chips on the Amiga emulator just as so. ;)
Dont foget the toaster oven/screamer with sgi itanium alpha ppc with over 50 and more cpus
Yeah... replace everything (piece by piece) and call it Amiga. In this way of thinking my large cardboard is the most upgradable computer ever.
Wow... this is the most amazing Amiga Demo I've ever seen
Well this one is impressive when it comes down to graphics, but look up Razor Falu red colour 40K intro. ;)
@@hannescamitz8575 Kefrens - Desert Dream
@@bstulic That's a really nice one, I got on some diskettes somewhere, and Andromeda which is anothe yem.
OMG now that's a masterpiece!
How the hell is this demo even possible? Great Demo!!
"Motorola Inside" \m/
Killer demo as always with Black Lotus.
I came to say that this is an absolute masterpiece, but somebody beat me to it. Clearly I'm not alone in that judgment. This is like rennaissance art of the modern age.
This is freaking great
I love the way how some people downplay some of the latest Amiga games/demos saying "it's not really the Amiga doing this but upgraded cpu, memory expansion" or what ever... Serious Amiga users ALWAYS have/had accelerators and memory expansions in their machines. Some even PowerPC cpus and 3D accelerators. PC users upgrade their machines all the time, so why Amiga users should be any different? Or are all today's technical marvels on PCs all fake because creators didn't stick with 80s technology but upgraded to faster hardware? "It's not really the PC doing this but faster CPU and new 3D accelerator..." - you know how silly that would sound. Claiming that this is not a real Amiga demo due to the same reasons sounds as silly. Talking about 3D acceleration by the way... This demo is running without *ANY* 3D acceleration hardware!
Most of us didn't run 060s when these demos were released, back in the day most of us would watch these demos at crappy frame rates on our average 030 expansion cards, if we were lucky :)
PCs in the mid 90s started to make the Amiga look poor when both machines were moving towards 3d software rasterising.
The thing is, we want to see what some *specific hardwares* can do, not stuff upgraded/customized because huge part of the interest in demos is to work within specific hardware setup and see what some wizards can pull off in such restrictions. Otherwise it's not the same fun at all.
And when doing so, this is also a good way to compare what different hardwares can achieve.
Personally, as cool as the demo here is, once I realized that this is not standard A1200 (apparently it requires at least an upgraded CPU), I kinda lost interest.
One of, if not THE most hyped demo in recent time is Overdrive II by Titan, a Sega Mega Drive demo, which is highly impressive and highly entertaining because it pushes further the boundaries of what everyone thought doable on the system.
@@yohkom.7988 but this *is* specific hardware. These demos are still right down to the metal and hitting the custom amiga chips. Yes, demo's like these require the 0x60 cpu chips, but as ridiculously expensive as they were they were not unheard of in the day. It's still original amiga hardware in that sense, an upgrade of an existing thing to a faster version of /the same thing/. It's not like it replaces the cpu with a pentium! This is legit amiga stuff. Hell, depending which amiga you bought (500, 1200, A300, whatevs) you may of had a x00, an 020 or an 030 - rich people an 060 from the start! It's all good.
I had the Cyberstomr PPC 604e and Cybervision PPC in my A4000 (tower modded and with a PCI board that I never made use of..) back then. I also made most of my friends buy AGA machines and at least an 68030 or sometimes PPC 603e card. So I also see this hardware as a 'normal' thing that's legit Amiga Hardware. But I see a problem otherwise: There's an intense lack of software actually making good use of that hardware. From all I have seen over the years, I am pretty disappointed, as I expected way more then I have seen, yet, even of an 68060 + AGA. Maybe it's just a subjective thing, but compared to what an OCS/ECS Amiga with 7,09MHz 68k can achieve, anything using better hardware seems like - 'meh!'. Probably it's just too hard to make good use of that complex hardware combination, opposed to the C64, where people still achieve awesome, astonishing things until todays. I haven't had such a moment on the Amiga since the Odyssey demo from Alcatraz. I think it would require a professional and experienced team like Factor 5 or DMA design where back then, for the original hardware, to make good use of the 68060/PPC solutions - but sadly never existed.
That's amazing. Lovely job here.
Yeah it's quite the masterpiece and big in size compared to most other Amiga Demos. About 17MB
How the 3d models and animations were done? Thought amiga could only do primituve 3d objects only
goodness, this is just great!
One of best demos ever
amazing demo for the amiga
Amazing
good work!
Stunning. Looks like PS1 graphics!
Amiga with 68060 is for sure on level with Playstation 1 !
I think this actually looks better than ps1
omg this was amazing! what a yawdropper!
TBL rulez !
Mega demo! !!
It still holds up.
Incredible! THIS is demo.
cool demo!
Wow ! This is rad !!!
thumbs up if you still think Amiga' demos developers had alien mind and that only Amiga users could realise that. 1:45 PRICELESS!
Yess, it's very nice and cool music 🤘
I had too pause the video halfway through out of astonishment, so many questions.
Amiiiigaaaaaaa!!
a strong piece of creativity, is ist really AGA only? I can't believe it
jesus .. that is good stuff
I like this demo
How far Graphics could be today if Amiga had survived... :'(
I think we would have Raytracing in Games for about 10 Years.
Thanks = Dziękuję PL Nostalgia my life 1990+
unbelievable
Yes!!
Damn!
this is some next level shit O . O
This demo ran very well on my old Amiga, except the fishy part which was somewhat slower, but still not too bad.
You using Mega - Covox or Paula. Im mean this 16- bis samples
Or mp3 player?
this is just fucking awesome O.o :3
This demo the best to test whether WinAUE is setup right , if it can play this it can play anything
That's already a "classic". Amiga rules :)
Great demo indeed but still so slow on my 4000/060 50 (rev 5.) ... :(
amiga 4life!
AGA? Amazing! Some of this stuff is good enough for modern TV! Definitely not a single floppy demo!?!
Will this run natively on the Amiga 500 Mini?
woww
Watched many intro's and demo's like this on my Amiga 500. Not a miracle, but standard.
I don't think you ran anything like this on an A500.
I guess he found out a way to stick a 060 in his 500...
@@benbaselet2026 i'm late, but it is actually possible. but why?..
This is on the Commodore Amiga?
scrolling suxx on YT as it does on anything not at 50Hz!!!
But the demo roxx!!!^^
Wich language and ide used? Thanks
No.. the people was.. The musicians coders and atrist. mindblowing. I have "helped" make some 64k shit .. its reallly hard.. And all I did was render a logo in Imagine.. then the coder sais.. nah.. to big.. make it take less memory ? wtf ? How.. I think I did it 100 times lol
... 50Hz demo recorded at 60Hz ?
Is that rendered??? Or fmv??
Phat shit!
Класс!!!
Amiiigaaaaaaaaaaa!!
\(^o^)/
I was in many Amiga demo competitions and although this demo is great, it's not that technically difficult with fast hardware like this was obviously made for. Firstly, most of the 3D stuff was in chunky, which makes it much easier to do especially when your 060 can do the c2p quite easily. Personally, for something technically amazing (albeit much later, Rink A Dink - Redux or Andromeda's Nexus 7 are technically far superior)
Agreed, a lot of these 3d heavy demos are run pretty much entirely on the CPU, and aren't that much different to PC demos technically..
WHAT ARE THE requirements for this miracle?
500e for an 060 board 😂
***** To make this demo shine, a 68060 and 16+ MB fast ram which is nothing is nothing in today's world. Please see updated capture at: th-cam.com/video/bBzdPtJumEE/w-d-xo.html
*****
a 060 is a very expensive piece of hardware. can you please show me the way to some other demos like this miracle?
oneduality
I mean for a real amiga mate!
*****
It depends of your clock rate on your 060.
je t'aime le lotus noir
Wait until Gen Z finds this and figures out that the demo scene has been counter coulture since the 80s ;)
Robo sharks rule! The ocean need's more of em (try gettin' a bowl of shark fin soup outa that Asia! He'd just shoot you with his laser eyes)
Man I REALLY need to go sleepy bye bye's. I'm on an automatic shite type.
#Roger #Raven
Mmmh, great demo by TBL... but not running perfectly well in this video (audio issues mainly... emulated?).
Runs much better (actually much faster than a real AGA 060 Amiga) under current WinUAE.
if you just knew what this is showing... my guess is you wouldnt like it
but nice song
Te demo jest wy...ne w kosmos
It's beautiful, but wouldn't a demo that is built for a machine that didn't exist, kind of defeats the purpose of demoing real hardware?
Ромашка 1941 It is how you described it. It is art
No scanlines - not authentic....
This demo is great. But is a girl controlled by some robot arm stuck into her back very 2019? I do not think those who made this demo is sexist assholes but that is how they look when they made the girl spin by the force of the robot arm. Also the hot girl hugging a teddy bear while the credits are running is something that can not be done 2019.
Shut up you limp wristed buffoon.
not an amiga demo sorry!!!
It IS an amiga demo ! (AGA)
Peter Hansen so you're telling me this will run on my standard 1200 ? ? ?
FunkyDungeon It will need more than a standard Amiga, at least an 040 CPU but an 060 to make it shine. Regardless, it's an Amiga demo and breathtaking for the AGA chipset (1992)
FunkyDungeon
I tested it only with an emulator. (WinUAE). And yes, it´s really an Amiga-Demo. Read what RetroDemoScene wrote..... :-)
Certainly not and Amiga 500 or 1000 but something a bit better, 2000 I'm guessing.