very handy little saws. I guess if you were invested in the Hikoki platform you could forgive the few minor issues with the Hikoki. as I've always said there is no perfect tool. sooner or later you will find something about any tool that you don't like or wish was different. cheers to Robert for lending his brand new saw for us to see reviewed. what a legend!
I do love my Mafell KSS 40 but it's only 18 volts. Floor guys dream machine. The rolled up spring steel track is awesome. If you haven't seen one in action look it up cuz it's fantastic
@@damiendaly1462 Try these, I prefer Amazon for speed and security as they ship via DHL amzn.to/3ZGABkr OR amzn.to/3TEP2l1 OR ebay.us/wciTR5 (And my name isn't Robert)
I am surprised that neither saw has a second dust port on the left. When flush cutting, I can imagine sawdust blasting against the wall & creating a cloud around the saw.
Wel there is a track saw adapter for the corded hikokis and with a very little mod I could put it on the 36v Hikoki Ive got and fits many guides f ex makita and fes
Do you know if the hikoki c3605Da also has the removable shoe? I can’t seem to find the Da model on Amazon Japan. Trying to ship to Canada. I am not sure what the difference is between the Da and the Db.
The hikoki seems to run a bit rougher. Also is the silent-mode sound pretty strange. Like a cvt-engine with a drunk driver.🤨 Thanks for the review! Great as always.👍
my bosses 18v brushless hikoki saw sounds rough as well. i reckon it's a combination of motor sound and tooth pitch\count on the gears. either way they do sound terrible compared to the makita
I bought the c3606da over the c3607da because it has a smaller blade but it actually cuts deeper ,strange but true, I love it . I also have the 18volt c18dsl , they both have the same 165mm blade but the 36volt tool is way more compact and 10x more powerful. One thing that's very strange is The 18volt will accept the 36volt battery but the saws overload feature cuts in with about half the pressure as opposed to using the 18volt battery . It basically makes the saw useless unless using it on a 18volt battery.
@@alan3995 that's strange I've never had that happen with my 18v. I just got an 8.0ah and it's running pretty good. Is there many other differences with the 36v? Or is it mainly in the power
@@alan3995 how's the power difference between the 3606 and 3605db? I can't justify buying both and am torn on which to buy. I already have the c18dbal. It's a nice little saw, but only powerful enough for crosscuts, or ripping plywood. When you run it through any framing timber or LVL it says "no, I'm not doing this"
I'm going to take on a pretty big roof deck project myself as a DIYer and I'm going to get a new saw for the job. I was considering one of these but thought I'd go up to the 165mm as I'm likely going to have a lot of 45 degree cuts. Timber will be 45mm thick. I'm thinking either hikoki c3606db or Makita hs001g. Which would you recommend? I don't currently have any 18v/36v/40v tools. Only some Milwaukee M12 fuel stuff. Thanks
I would go for HS001G. The 40v also has a larger range of tools and batteries for future expansion. The HS002G also has AWS if that interests you. Makita 165mm HS001G (6.5") Black ebay.us/j3ScMA Teal ebay.us/GB2Uat Makita 165mm HS002G (6.5") AWS ebay.us/YrN1H1
The silent mode is an auto mode. It will ramp up to full rpm under load. All hikoki tools are like this. There is a hook for the hikoki too, the black plastic cover plate you took off, the hook goes there. The front knob handle from the 165mm with also fit on the 125mm saw
Great reviews, "all"; However, this stand alone review on the Makita 165 is great, how does it stack up against the Hikoki 165mm, in fact that Hikoki 165 (6 1/2) is largely ignored on a review. ( we all know the power of the dewalt 60 (56) flex volt, but the unbalanced location of the battery (to far back instead of under the handle where it "must be" unless its a worm type design, dewalt thumbs down for this) where is a "stellar review," like your 125mm makita vs Hikoki that very well done review, That many of us would love to see, it may make a difference in many purchases. 165 hikoki vs 165 makita (the "only" two saws in all your reviews I don't own yet)
Great video I like seeing the hikoki stuff as I am now quite invested into their platform. Yesterday I picked up g 3613db grinder and CJ 36da jigsaw anyone with a review? As I struggle to find any. When are we going to see the multi tool showdown? Also also next mitre saw I'm between Makita xgt mitre saw and festool ks60 corded. Any recommendations fellow tool nerds?
I've done a showdown with the 36v grinder and the 18v jigsaw. I haven't tried the 36v Jig yet but it's on the list. The multi-tool video has been filmed for a few weeks, but I haven't got around to editing it yet because I know it will be a nightmare to edit.
Cool 36v jig is supposedly far superior to the 18v and yes I don't have high hopes for multi tool, I am hoping there is a 36v in development I'll have to go back and watch that grinder one probably already seen it and forgot. Thanks for the great content
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL Now when we got here in Europe the new Makita CXT 12v series TD112DMZ impact driver to assembly lines , have you seen it ? Its as plain as you can make power tools , no fancy rubber ornaments on top .
I have seen it online and tried to order one from Japan but was informed Makita Japan don't sell it??? Only available in Germany and a few other countries in Europe for some reason...
Can you please do a comparison/ review of the new milwaukee M18 fuel multitool vs the new Makita 18volt brushless multitool, would make a great head to head 👍
There is a dust port. There's really no need for a metal guard on a saw this small, or a forward handle. However, the Hikoki has a spot for the forward handle. You can pop off the cover and mount it on.
Idk.. It always made sense to me, if I'm using one of these saws and I'm ripping or cutting anything I'm using my right hand thus if there's kick back my body is on the opposite side of the blade. If using a blade left saw being right handed now if there's a kick back not near as safe...just my 2 cents on the subject. To me blade right is for right handers (which Btw I'm left handed) but they didn't have blade left when I first started in the trade. So I just learned to cut right handed.
Zyzz you have missed the main point of buying this saw. If you are right handed this is exactly how you want the blade. Blade on the left wouldn't work for cutting against a wall... think about it...
@@reddawgrup1779 if the blade was on the left your body would be in the way of the wall if you're cutting against the wall. You're a California Carpenter I get it
That hikoki is a seriously impressive bit of kit. So much power and very quiet too.
very handy little saws. I guess if you were invested in the Hikoki platform you could forgive the few minor issues with the Hikoki. as I've always said there is no perfect tool. sooner or later you will find something about any tool that you don't like or wish was different. cheers to Robert for lending his brand new saw for us to see reviewed. what a legend!
Legend Robert! We all thank you.
I do love my Mafell KSS 40 but it's only 18 volts. Floor guys dream machine. The rolled up spring steel track is awesome. If you haven't seen one in action look it up cuz it's fantastic
Very great showing of what these are for. Thanks Robert!
robert i need more info to purchase one plz
@@damiendaly1462 Try these, I prefer Amazon for speed and security as they ship via DHL amzn.to/3ZGABkr OR amzn.to/3TEP2l1 OR ebay.us/wciTR5 (And my name isn't Robert)
I was hoping you would put the video of the ships front falling off in there haha
I thought about it, but I've already done that.
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL But it will never not be funny!
Clarke and Dawe, the best Aus/NZ collaboration since the Battle of Long Tan 👍
If you check those steel cutting blades they need to spin at a lower rpm which the silent mode is perfect for.
I am surprised that neither saw has a second dust port on the left. When flush cutting, I can imagine sawdust blasting against the wall & creating a cloud around the saw.
If it makes you feel any worse, the accessory dust port sticks out and gets in the way. 😬
I really like silent mode on my 7-1/4". I want to say mine ramped up a bit under load but I'd have to go mess with it some more to confirm.
Hikoki offer a rafter hook for the 125mm saw
Wel there is a track saw adapter for the corded hikokis and with a very little mod I could put it on the 36v Hikoki Ive got and fits many guides f ex makita and fes
I would like to use a Metabo KFS 30 or 44 with the Hikoki. Do you think that will work?
What kind of timber were you cutting with these saws? It looks very similar to accoya. I’m not sure if you use different timber tan we do in the uk?
Do you know if the hikoki c3605Da also has the removable shoe? I can’t seem to find the Da model on Amazon Japan. Trying to ship to Canada. I am not sure what the difference is between the Da and the Db.
The hikoki seems to run a bit rougher. Also is the silent-mode sound pretty strange. Like a cvt-engine with a drunk driver.🤨
Thanks for the review! Great as always.👍
my bosses 18v brushless hikoki saw sounds rough as well. i reckon it's a combination of motor sound and tooth pitch\count on the gears. either way they do sound terrible compared to the makita
Your right. The Hikoki sound off, but powerful. Can you get your hands on 36 Volt 165mm C3606DA. Thanks Robert. 👍🏾😊🤙🏾
I bought the c3606da over the c3607da because it has a smaller blade but it actually cuts deeper ,strange but true, I love it . I also have the 18volt c18dsl , they both have the same 165mm blade but the 36volt tool is way more compact and 10x more powerful. One thing that's very strange is The 18volt will accept the 36volt battery but the saws overload feature cuts in with about half the pressure as opposed to using the 18volt battery . It basically makes the saw useless unless using it on a 18volt battery.
Thanks for the heads up Alana. Interesting & I'll have to look into that. Cheers
@@alan3995 that's strange I've never had that happen with my 18v. I just got an 8.0ah and it's running pretty good.
Is there many other differences with the 36v? Or is it mainly in the power
@@alan3995 how's the power difference between the 3606 and 3605db? I can't justify buying both and am torn on which to buy. I already have the c18dbal. It's a nice little saw, but only powerful enough for crosscuts, or ripping plywood. When you run it through any framing timber or LVL it says "no, I'm not doing this"
Can you put a 5 3/8 blade on either of those saws?
I guessed right woot but didn't know it was gonna be by that much
I'm going to take on a pretty big roof deck project myself as a DIYer and I'm going to get a new saw for the job. I was considering one of these but thought I'd go up to the 165mm as I'm likely going to have a lot of 45 degree cuts. Timber will be 45mm thick. I'm thinking either hikoki c3606db or Makita hs001g. Which would you recommend? I don't currently have any 18v/36v/40v tools. Only some Milwaukee M12 fuel stuff. Thanks
I would go for HS001G. The 40v also has a larger range of tools and batteries for future expansion. The HS002G also has AWS if that interests you. Makita 165mm HS001G (6.5") Black ebay.us/j3ScMA Teal ebay.us/GB2Uat
Makita 165mm HS002G (6.5") AWS ebay.us/YrN1H1
@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL wow thanks for the quick reply. I'm in the UK but I'm sure I can find a seller that will ship to me. Thanks again.
125mm blade only I can buy in Japan?
I'm located in alberta canada
The silent mode is an auto mode. It will ramp up to full rpm under load. All hikoki tools are like this. There is a hook for the hikoki too, the black plastic cover plate you took off, the hook goes there. The front knob handle from the 165mm with also fit on the 125mm saw
Do you have the link to the blades ?
I get mine from this guy, he has a good range. ebay.us/hBdkyt
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL thanks a lot
Where the best place to buy the makita 125mm based in uk.
You can only get them from Japan. Links are in the description.
Love you work rob
What's your view on Diablo blades??
Diablo blades 16 mm ( it's Bosch for USA market). These saws need 20 mm blades.
If you want one and Robert won’t lend it to you 😂😂
Great reviews, "all"; However, this stand alone review on the Makita 165 is great, how does it stack up against the Hikoki 165mm, in fact that Hikoki 165 (6 1/2) is largely ignored on a review. ( we all know the power of the dewalt 60 (56) flex volt, but the unbalanced location of the battery (to far back instead of under the handle where it "must be" unless its a worm type design, dewalt thumbs down for this) where is a "stellar review," like your 125mm makita vs Hikoki that very well done review, That many of us would love to see, it may make a difference in many purchases. 165 hikoki vs 165 makita (the "only" two saws in all your reviews I don't own yet)
He's gotta be able to get his hands on one to review it. These things are like $400-500 a piece
Aww, come on, Robert...lemme borrow your saw!
Please put the Mafell in your hands and then up against these👌😜😎😉
Sometimes these videos act as a good test for noise canceling headphones
Great video I like seeing the hikoki stuff as I am now quite invested into their platform. Yesterday I picked up g 3613db grinder and CJ 36da jigsaw anyone with a review? As I struggle to find any. When are we going to see the multi tool showdown? Also also next mitre saw I'm between Makita xgt mitre saw and festool ks60 corded. Any recommendations fellow tool nerds?
I've done a showdown with the 36v grinder and the 18v jigsaw. I haven't tried the 36v Jig yet but it's on the list. The multi-tool video has been filmed for a few weeks, but I haven't got around to editing it yet because I know it will be a nightmare to edit.
And you won't like the result of the multi-tool showdown...
Cool 36v jig is supposedly far superior to the 18v and yes I don't have high hopes for multi tool, I am hoping there is a 36v in development I'll have to go back and watch that grinder one probably already seen it and forgot. Thanks for the great content
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL Now when we got here in Europe the new Makita CXT 12v series TD112DMZ impact driver to assembly lines , have you seen it ?
Its as plain as you can make power tools , no fancy rubber ornaments on top .
I have seen it online and tried to order one from Japan but was informed Makita Japan don't sell it??? Only available in Germany and a few other countries in Europe for some reason...
front on the side?
Can you please do a comparison/ review of the new milwaukee M18 fuel multitool vs the new Makita 18volt brushless multitool, would make a great head to head 👍
I've already filmed it. Just got to get around to editing it.
The front fell off.. clarke and dawe hahaha
Why are both of these saws made with such crap materials? Plastic guards, no dust ports, no handles, where is the money going?
They spent it all on chrome paint.
There is a dust port. There's really no need for a metal guard on a saw this small, or a forward handle. However, the Hikoki has a spot for the forward handle. You can pop off the cover and mount it on.
how do you know they are crap, champ?
Why is every single one of these saws right blade when most of the world right handed. Makes no sense.
Idk.. It always made sense to me, if I'm using one of these saws and I'm ripping or cutting anything I'm using my right hand thus if there's kick back my body is on the opposite side of the blade. If using a blade left saw being right handed now if there's a kick back not near as safe...just my 2 cents on the subject.
To me blade right is for right handers (which Btw I'm left handed) but they didn't have blade left when I first started in the trade. So I just learned to cut right handed.
Zyzz you have missed the main point of buying this saw. If you are right handed this is exactly how you want the blade. Blade on the left wouldn't work for cutting against a wall... think about it...
@@reddawgrup1779 if the blade was on the left your body would be in the way of the wall if you're cutting against the wall. You're a California Carpenter I get it
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL yes it still would you could just flip the saw and cut in the other direction.
Zyzz But you would then have to cut with your left hand. Think about where the wall is.