Minimotors Dualtron Victor Review 45MPH Electric Scooter That Fits In Your Trunk!
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- The new and improved Minimotors Dualtron Victor (geni.us/dualtron_victor?track=yt) is a 45mph beast that can easily fit in your trunk! Tune in to learn more and see the Dualtron Victor's ESG tested performance stats!
Minimotors Dualtron Victor
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What are your thoughts on the new Dualtron Victor? geni.us/dualtron_victor?track=yt
Let us know in the comments below!
My Victor is GREAT. Can you tell me what and how you sprayed onto the stem to get rid of the creak?
Hi Toddzilla!
It's CRC white lithium grease. It helps to loosen the bolts, spray both sides (try to get it down the hole too), then also spray up above the bolts and work it into the space between the stem and stem holder. Might help to lube the hinge and clamp too.
If you search for CRC 5037 you'll find it. Handy stuff. -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide ok thank you very much! This is so helpful, I thought I just wasn’t tightening the locks enough. So- are you actually removing the stem from its base (right above the hinge)? Thank you again!
No need to remove the stem. Just loosen the bolts a couple turns, squirt the spray grease in there, work it around and tighten back down. Should only take 5 minutes. -Paul
Hey guys! I was injured on my scooter in June 2021, and I haven't been able to ride my 2 scooters since. I know I need to cycle the batteries (charge/discharge, store when battery pack is half full, etc) to keep them healthy. I was going to tape down the accelerators and raise the scooters to have the battery packs discharge, but then I thought I remembered watching a video where they had a device to discharge the battery quickly and safely. Can anyone point me in the right direction???
Wow really good review as always. I just break my own record taking my Mantis to work back and forward 17 miles each way . I’m kaabo forever but you’d review make me shakes my head! Great job
Thank you so much! -Paul
The lack of an IP rating is a deal breaker sadly. I've really been considering a scooter like this now that I live in a downtown area. But in Florida where rain can seemingly pop up out of nowhere I need that peace of mind.
Minimotors USA tried to screw me over by claiming water damage when I repeatedly told them I've never taken it near any water
@@likacow oh screw that! These high end scooters are far too expensive to have that kind of service
Emove scooter. 👍
every scooter is kind splash resistent to rain etc... just that they cannot be drowned in water
@@dante19890 no most "fast" scooters cannot handle splashes water runs down the wires and shorts a controller or two, also most hub motors are not waterproofed In any way...
Thank you ESG for all of the hard work and amazing reviews. Great video
Thank you so much Edgar!
Amazing review guys !
Thank you so much Francisco! -Paul
I would have been sorely tempted to buy the Victor if it arrived in my country just a month earlier. After purchasing a monster performance 11inch tire scooter I sometimes miss the nimble handling of a 10x3 class one. Speed and range of the Victor would be enough for my needs..
Idk, im still happy with my speedway 4 with 30ah battery + 21ah extended battery. Maybe if the next gens of scooters go with a lil more range, thats the point where im gonna upgrade.
But the victor truly has a good Price to Performance ratio.
Dualtron awesomeness just goes on and on
I just got my victor 3 days ago and it is such a blast on the streets and bike trails you can flow with traffic with eazy without speed anxiety with cars 🙂 it's a fun mini torpedo gods gift 100%
Glad you enjoying the scooter! Stay safe
-Vosk
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide thanks :)
Is it way better than mantis 10 pro 😊😊??
@@omranmohammed8134 yes more durable
Are there any longer term comments or review? I'm also interested to know if there are any issues with flat tyres that Reddit seem to comment as the main problem with the split rims/tubes.
Hey esg, I have a Splach ranger that has 270 miles. I notice that the rear drum brake makes a whirling noise every rotation. Any ideas how to fix it? Also big fan of your videos.
Love those detachable rims !
They're cool. I found out the hard way that you can't treat them like the tubeless rims on the Storm and just start loosening. The same bolts that hold the rims to the motor on the Victor also hold the rims to each other. When you get down to one or two screws (after forgetting to let the air out) the pressure separates the wheels and will break off the remaining tab on the rim. I should have noticed it before I got that far, but was really thinking the rims would have their own fasteners to hold them together. If they did, then it would be much easier to swap rims i.e. switch from road to dirt, if you had two sets of rims. I'm including that info in the written review. :-) -Paul
What would be the better buy.. this or the thunder 1?
Can I add my 2 cents to this review ?
I had a Dualtron 3 and it served me well for 2.7 years. It was stolen 2 weeks ago and replaced by my by my magnificent insurance company.
It does appear at least on paper that the victor and DT 3.0 are very similar in almost spec.( if your not have the tubeless tire convo)
It is a great scooter apart from a bit of stem play. I can recommend it as one of the best work scooters in the market at the moment.
What insurance policy covered the replacement? Car insurance?
how does it behave with coblestone? anyways thank you sir after watching this awesome review this is the one im buying
Has a decent suspension! Enjoy your scooter
How does the rubber suspension feels like compared to spring shocks or hydraulic?
It’s just those little things that common on other scooters and are lacking on this one.
What do you guys think of SOLAR R1 scooter?
Rubber suspension is pretty great. Its the lightest way to do suspension, and what I like most about it, is that it also acts as a damper. A really good hydraulic shock is best, but even the adjustable shocks on the BURN-E are only a little better than good rubber suspension. The Vsett's rear shock is also probably a little better than rubber, but the Vsett's front spring has no damping (like almost all springs on scooters) so it's a little jittery up front. -Paul
I haven't seen a SOLAR R1 in person, so unfortunately don't know enough about them to have a useful opinion of them -Paul
What Scooter you can Pick Vsett10+ or Dualtron Victor ?
@@alexispinero
I’m not sure what you are asking me?,…
which one would I buy or which one can I lift up.
I think I can lift either of them.
In regards of buying…..
Well,..I don’t really like Dulatron’s because of three reasons.
1.They lack of some basic equipment that odder cheaper scooters have.
2.They utilize rubber suspension, which doesn’t strike me as a real deal.
3.They are overpriced in my opinion.
Can you change the finger throttle to Rion curve??
Great question. I'm pretty sure you can, but I don't know for sure. I wish all scooters had a Curve-style throttle. -Paul
Really considering the dultron bluetran. Like the hi speed and range mainly and its on sale for 2500. Would you recommend or should i go with something else?
We have not reviewed that one but check out our best of 2023 list! riderguide.com/best-rated/best-electric-scooters/
I thought about the trunk test. I think trunk fitment is more for a “last miler” scooter. True portability is lesser wight to carry upstairs and folding mechanisms to prevent bumping into people in public transportation systems. My normal options is to take my car or take my scooter.
hello good sir! what scooter do you think is better? the dualtron victor or the zero 10x? :) thinking of getting one in the future :)
Victor, for sure.
-Paul
any idea about 24ah model of victor? any expriance? could someone answer me please?
We have not seen that one!
Can you guys do the Thunder 2 soon!!!! Please we need you guys to give us those metrics ASAP!!
Thanks Zo! As soon as we can get our hands on one! :-)
Finally my scooter getting some ESG love.
Awwww yeah! This one has been a long time coming! -Paul
I'm new to electric scooters, I am a heavy set guy at 300lbs. Any suggestions?
Check out the Electric-Scooter.Guide website. We have a search tool there which will show you just about every scooter that's rated for over 300lbs. There are a large number of scooters to choose from that could work, depending on how you want to use it. What's your main use? How far do you need to go, how fast do you want to get there (mph or kph) and where do you park it? -Paul
Please do review for dualtron storm limited.
As soon as we can get our hands on one! :-) -Paul
Would you recommend this over the Bluetran Lightning?
We have not tested the bluetran but we tested the Victor and it’s awesome
If only it had a thumb operated speed controller.
What's with fingering scooters anyway?
I'm a big fan of thumb throttles too! -Paul
Bring on the future of fast scoots.
The batteries are already there,
The motors are already there,
When cost effective performance motor controllers become a thing, look out!
Would this scooter be good for delivery on a small town
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Solid handlebars would of been a better idea in my opinion. I have a Spider and it’s the most amazing and light weight scooter
I like the feeling of solid handlebars, but for people who own sedans, especially smaller sedans, the ability to fold down the handlebar makes a huge difference in portability. Also I think the folding bars on the dualtron scooters are as good as folding bars get lol
It's interesting. For the weight. Is it much better in terms of durability, reliability etc not just performance than my sentimental favorite, the Kaabo Mantis Pro? The performance specs are close enough. And the Victor is a few hundreds of dollars more?
The Mantis is hard to beat for value. I don't see a big advantage for Dualtron durability vs Mantis. -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide Thanks!
Hi, I'm torn between buying the Spider2 or the Victor... which one do you believe is better? performance, build, weight, etc...
Would recommend the Victor
-Vosk
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide any specific reason why?
Does the Spider 2 have similar acceleration and top speed as the Victor? Please do a review.
I hope they put LG 21700 battery cells into the next Kaabo Wolf Warrior X and Warrior X Pro!
73.2 Km/h Wow faster than my Moped!
True Geordie wants a word with you
Is this a better quality scooter than the Apollo phantom?
Yes, the quality is much better. I am an owner of both, and there's really no competition in terms of quality.
I personally like the phantom better but I’m also 6’2 215lbs 🤷🏾♂️
Sorry for disturbing austen is this scooter better than mantis 10 pro at driving and quality ?
Victor luxury or Spider 2? They both seem to have similar specs except weight. I'm wondering if the lighter weighed Spider 2 would outperform the Victor Luxury? NAMI is too damn big so I'm no longer interested. I just want light weight and lots of range with some power.
We have not tested the spider 2 but the Victor we have and it’s awesome
-Vosk
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuideThanks for your reply Vosk! Have you guys tested the Vsett 10 and if so.......Vsett 10+R or the Dualtron Victor? They are both around same price.
So you're saying it's better than the Vsett10+?
The Victor is more compact and it's faster (top speed), but the Vsett is much quicker from a start. It really depends on riding style. The Victor has a smoother style and is easier to corner with because the throttle is less abrupt. The Victor has a real EY3 display, which is much easier to read. The stems on both are really really good, but the Vsett's is other-worldly good. On the other hand the Victor's handlebars don't wiggle. But the Vsett handlebar angle is more comfortable for me.
They're both really really good. I could pick them apart all day, but I'd be really happy with either. -Paul
How does it perform under rain?
Not recommended for rain. It doesn't have an IP rating, and looking closely, I can see some vulnerabilities to water. -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide you think waterproofing it a good move?
It would certainly help. If you really love Dualtrons and aren't going to ride in rain regularly you could totally make it work. If you're planning to ride every day, rain or shine, including hard rain... then I'd get something with a good IP rating rather than trying to waterproof something without one. -Paul
Lithium-Patriot would fit, in a big enough glovebox and the rescue-Air can travel at 45mph when tied to the dualtron!
I always look forward to your comments Ash! -Paul
Hey I think my Victor must be faulty then. I have no idea how you got 40 miles of real world range. I did a 20 mile commute to school from full charge and only had 55 volts remaining at the end of the ride. Also near the last 3 miles my display would flash as it could not handle the pull of the acceleration. I was always in turbo mode, speed mode 3 and would switch between dual and single motor. Average cruising speed was 25-35mph. What settings did you have on for your 40 mile range test?? I feel like I could have gotten 30 miles max at the settings I was at.
The display starts flashing a while before you reach the end of the battery. I was riding in dual motor, gear 3 with battery save off. My typical top speeds were in the 25 mph range. Chuck and I both weigh 165 lbs.
Alex Simon of Scoot America found that when he rode scooters across the US, there was a pretty drastic drop in range on all scooters above 25 mph.
What tire pressure were you running? -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide Hey Paul, thanks for a quick response!
Seems like we were at similar settings with dual motor and gear 3, were you in eco mode? as my top speed in eco mode with those settings is 25-27mph. I was in turbo mode and was cruising between 25-40mph on certain parts of road.
I also weigh 165LBS
As for the display flashing that is why I said I probably could do 30 miles max as an estimate that it flashed on my 20mi ride.
I was running 40ishPSI. I also have the DT3 rim + tubeless tyre set up if that might make a difference on my range.
my 30 miles to your 40 mile range concerns me haha.
@@FloWithZo Hey Zo, were you in the Boston invasion ride a few weeks ago?
@@Brian55578 yep
Do you go through hills and how aggressive do you ride it to get only 20 miles??? That what I'm getting on my Mantis base that's already a year old (3k+ miles) and it's a regular Chinese battery!!
Can you modify a scooter and add those LG cells, asking for a friend
I fit that on my suitcase and travel the countryes 😂
Yeah for this price I need a solid IP rating. If you get the fancy version, you are looking at $3k. $3k, for something that could break by riding through a puddle, as far as I know.
Hopefully it will improve in the future!
-Vosk
And the price is…?
$2,699. I had to go watch the whole video again just now to check. You're right, we left it out somehow!
First view! Yeah buddy
Thanks Troy!
The dualtron victor would have been perfect if only it had a rubber deck grip and a footrest.
Vsett 10+ ftw trust me
45? My friend and I hit 55mph he had the original, and I have the Luxury
Great scooter but I'm fine at 40mph and a $1,150 difference with my Varla Eagle One. $1,550 Vs $2,700.
How much range are you getting on your Varla E1?
40 is definitely fast! -Paul
@@jessa.3857 @ 200lbs and riding dual motors hard I get around 20 - 22 miles.
@@aerofpv2109 Thats just about what I'm getting now on my Mantis base but I'm 190. I ride it moderately mostly but if i ride it hard then I'm def getting under 20. I used to get 33 last year when it was new! I'm at 3k+ miles now. I want my next scooter to give me at least 80 miles of range but I really don't want a huge scooter.
@@jessa.3857 Same here Jess. My next buy will be the VSett 10+ with the larger 28A LG battery unless something else comes along within the next 3 months.
I hit 48MPH for almost 4 seconds
the spider 2 is better since theyre the same price
deep dive please- whatever that is
Here you go! -Paul
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Damn how many dualtron do you guys have? Give me one! 😂
We actually didn't use all of the Dualtrons we have for that shot! :-) -Paul
To be fair I think most scooters can fit in your trunk
You're right! But, this is the only >45mph production scooter we know of that fits! It's also 5" shorter than some of its competitors, but its hard to say that in 3 words or less, so we boiled it down to 45mph - Fits! :-) -Paul
Not my wolf king
@@LifeWithStiel Lool
The simple fact is many do not.
Some of the more robust scooters weigh over 100 lbs.
@allemander, I rode a 125lb beast scooter 55 miles today. Kicked my butt! That scooter will be in the next video. -Paul
Sorry, it $2.7k. That’s a deal breaker. And anything over 65 lbs, really 60 lbs is ridiculous to utilize if you are not a weight lifter and have a staircase to deal with. I would prefer less speed (to 32 mph) and range (to 30 miles) to lessen the weight (under 60 lbs) and price tag (less than $2k)
Give me that for 100-200€😂😂🙌
Haha
Why pay almost $3,000 when I can get the varlet eagle one for 1500 and it only goes 4 miles an hour slower
No IPX rating at all? That‘s pathetic
$2700… pass!!! Ill keep my mantis base
Hard to go wrong with a Mantis base! Huge performance per dollar!
How long have you had your Mantis? -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide hi, so yea for the price i didn’t find anything better at the time and this is maybe eight months ago it’s been great I have a xiomi M365 I got to say the quality on that is probably a little better but the performance on the mantis is way better all And all for the money I’m pretty happy when a new scooter comes out that’s lighter than mine and as fast or faster and the same range or more range for around 1500 to maybe $900 max I would buy it
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide am a motorcyclist like you as u know u can buy a beater bike that runs well for 2,500 bucks and there is no comparison..
Mantis has half the battery AH, that a big price difference.
@@adamanddog what ?
As someone left car-less after an EF-4 tornado and unsatisfied with the Ninebot and HX scooters I have, I’m interested, but $2,700?! Get lost. I could get another car for that.
Then get a car. Not everyone wants a bland 15 yr old used beater . Not to mention the cost of gas and insurance drive the cost of ownership wayyy up
@@bluecheesybobgood point.
Did someone strangle your neck to talk like that
Hi Rolando,
The opening section, where I'm speaking live, the voice-over section, or the whole thing? Curious which part in particular sounds odd. Feedback is always welcome. -Paul
Lol.
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuidelol.