I absolutely adore this woman and am inspired by her strength. I read her book in less than 10 hours. I highly recommend it. Haley is my favorite OTH character, and I love her Hallmark movies!! She writes as she speaks, easy to read and she's easy to listen to, very comforting.
I just finished her book and was so impressed with her strength and being able to tell her truth. I'm very private also and I appreciate her letting us in. I too could relate and her story needed to be told as she will reach so many . Thanks Joy for sharing. You are a true talent and enjoy watching any movie or show your in.
One of my favorite actresses 💕 I have known of others with an evangelical background that have had similar experiences. Some of us follow with our hearts not believing we can be deceived. Unfortunately satan is a wolf in sheep's clothing. Thankfully God had a strong hold on you that you could still see light. We become strong in character based on our experiences and how we maneuver through them. Yours have produced a BEAUTIFUL Soul. Prayers for continued healing and strength. You are Blessed. 💕
@@melaniemitchell9419 than which is it? I’ve been in one and I can see it both ways as well. I think it just depends what and the situation itself ya know 🤷🏻♀️
Thank you Bethany for sharing such a personal & inspiring story! You express such profound wisdom as you walk through the journey of healing & restoration. A wisdom I take to heart in my own battles for healing. I will pray for you as you continue this journey, Bethany! Thank you again for being such an inspiration to me!
I'm a non demoninational Christian and was never in a cult but do feel like a lot of Christians knock and dismiss everyone else's religion or way of life . I don't agree or have to believe in the same God as you but I do have a very open heart and mind and a very curious personality just like Joy . I think she describes it well . I do feel like not my dad but my mom raised me with a close minded mindset and to dismiss others opinions and beliefs . At 27 , I don't believe in doing that any longer . It's not healthy and very toxic and I just feel like we can all still be friends even if we believe in a different God .
Fair play to you for coming through that Joy. You were always strong and virtuous...and well, you brought us Hayley! A special mention to your father who never gave up and compiled that dossier. I'd do the same for my daughter. Keep the faith
Thank you for sharing! I relate- also evangelical background. I still struggle with trusting myself, trusting others, and trusting God and who He actually is vs who I was told He was. I have yet to find my community after breaking away, so it is often a very lonely and complicated road. And those still there make sure to gaslight me into trying to believe spiritual abuse isn’t real and that I am over exaggerating their cultness.
A marvelous interview, Bethany Joy! This caught my eye as you are one of my favorite actresses on Hallmark Movies! I will watch a Hallmark Movie over and over again if you are in it! You are a wonderful and very talented actress! I am looking forward to seeing my People Magazine with you on the cover! Wonderful choice! I will also look forward to your book! I am sure your message will reach a lot of people! Thank you for your informative words!🩷🌼🩷
Her journey is of freedom. And throwing religion and cult titles trying to put her experience under a title cannot fully paint the on going process of just being a unique child of a loving HEAVENLY FATHER. And the beauty of discovering you have a gift to offer so the universe can listen and learn too.
She was one of crushes as a teen since One tree hill. Something about her is so gorgeous i cant put my eye on it it's because she is very unique looking. She looks mixed.
(If you ever see this) You are such a role model, Joy. I have been a fan since hearing you sing on Season 1 of OTH. I loved your arc on greys too and makes me think you would have made a much better Lily Bloom than Blake Lively. Your self awareness and reflection speaks volumes. It was truly amazing meeting you in person last year and hearing you sing live in Wilmington. Can’t wait to read your book.
I feel like Bethany could create a successful lifestyle brand. Something similar to what Reese Witherspoon has done. There’s something very authentic about her.
This is a very important conversation to have!!! Thank you for being so open and honest about this tricky topic, Bethany! 👏☺ I think anyone who has been or is currently being manipulated (in whichever form it may take) can find solace in another victim's insights. Remember anyone can be brainwashed! And those who come through (sometimes after questioning their whole belief system) and make it to the other side are some of the strongest and bravest people there are!!! 💪😤
Wow….that close of a relationship to the TOP DOG of this cult ! Her husband was brainwashed too and couldn’t see through that fog. Thanks the Lord, Bethany figured it out and saved herself and baby girl. This interview was exceptional well done. She is very eloquent in speech and her thoughts are clear and genuine. I see that she is a good writer , looking forward to reading her book. I very much enjoyed any show that I saw her in. Excellent actress. I hope good fortune finds her often as she continues to rebuild her life for herself and her daughter. I always pray for angels to Hoover over myself and my family and put that dome of protection over us as we move through life , help us discern what is good and what is evil because Satan is actively looking for ruinous souls. Just know that GOD never sleeps , He is the only one that Satan will not share space with because he is diminished in God’s pure light.
I apologize in advance because I am grumpy, sleep deprived, and very crampy on my period so this comment is a hormonal rampage of unreasonable outrage: BUT! What an absolutely awful video to promote a book. And not because of the actress 😅 PEOPLE needs to give more context for this interview for any of it to make sense. It popped up on my feed and as someone who knows nothing about this actress or the situation, all I know is she struggled but not how, when, why, etc. The cult isn’t named and more importantly its beliefs aren’t described AT ALL so we have literally no information to connect these 10 minutes to the words she is saying. She’s sharing her struggles, suffering, and lessons so earnestly yet it’s edited into this video that doesn’t tell us once what the struggle was (she was in a cult and we don’t know why it was difficult to be in or why it was difficult to leave - other than the surprise plot twist that her husband is also in the cult as if we were just supposed to know - we just know that it was difficult. In a proper promo for a topic such as this I’d also expect a link to a resource/website for anyone in a similar position to the actress who may need support. On a hormonal day like today this is just wild and outrageous to me and makes me sad for the actress to get THIS as the result of her interview. But on a good day, I’d bet money I’d be annoyed and surprised. Well, I’m done with my rant 🙃😩😮💨
@@heathertapper-gq6pk I don’t think she has a choice. Scientology is a cult to me but if my ex husband were a member he would still be granted visitation and/or joint custody unless I could prove it would be harmful to my children. The freedom of religion comes into play would be my opinion on why she has to allow that. Which most cult leaders have a separation to defectors from their “church”- I guess that depends too. Or at least that what I have learned from documentaries and books on escaping cults.
“Most assuredly, I say to you, he who hears My word and believes in Him who sent Me has everlasting life (present), and shall not come into judgment (future), but has passed from death into life (past).” There are 66 books total. Please read John, Romans, 1 John, and Revelation. Use an accurate translation like the KJV, NKJV, or NASB. He loves us immensely. All we must do to be saved is believe in Him.
I am a Christian, but I don’t believe that everything we need is in the Bible. There are many extra biblical interventions that are helpful, for one thing, therapy, healing groups. We are, at times, all vulnerable in our lives that leave us open to manipulation and gaslighting. And to say that everything we need is in the Bible is overly simplistic.
All religions and faiths are cults. Joy claims to still be Christian even after leaving the cult. She's still in the cult. She just went from one to another.
Being Christian does not mean you're in a cult. It doesn't even mean you're religious. Christianity ≠ Religion. A lot of Christians don't even go to church on a regular basis.
👏👏👏 Religion is a cult. I stepped back from Christian teachings and my whole life got better. Practicing Love without judgement and self awareness/acceptance without the “shame” they teach has been absolutely life changing. You can have family and community and support, without clinging to toxic religious beliefs.
the islam has very clear rules which really helps because its from the true and only god. the other religions are rules from the human and so very flawed and confusing..
Yes, of course, it the least tolerant religion out there and don’t pretend it’s women friendly. Two of my female friends were married to Muslim men ( one Turkish and one Egyptian - one of the more modern Islamic cultures btw) who were beating them up and the husbands’ relatives didn’t say a word acted as if that’s a norm ( because it’s that common!!) Unless the woman is from a rich family ( richer than a husband) or lives in a Western country, nobody in Islamic culture cares about her rights!! That’s the harsh reality!!
What an honest, eloquent and vulnerable conversation. Wow.
I wish she was in more movies/shows because she is brilliant and beautiful. Love watching her. She was the reason I watched one tree hill.
She's a really good singer too. Her song "Halo" is beautiful.
@@Kiertiana agree!
You're one of my favorite Hallmark actresses and I'm glad you made it thru and are able to share your story with others. Sending love to you.
I absolutely adore this woman and am inspired by her strength. I read her book in less than 10 hours. I highly recommend it. Haley is my favorite OTH character, and I love her Hallmark movies!! She writes as she speaks, easy to read and she's easy to listen to, very comforting.
I just finished her book and was so impressed with her strength and being able to tell her truth. I'm very private also and I appreciate her letting us in. I too could relate and her story needed to be told as she will reach so many . Thanks Joy for sharing. You are a true talent and enjoy watching any movie or show your in.
I adored her on Guiding Light eons ago.
She always presents as natural and authentic in whatever role she is in.
One of my favorite actresses 💕 I have known of others with an evangelical background that have had similar experiences. Some of us follow with our hearts not believing we can be deceived. Unfortunately satan is a wolf in sheep's clothing. Thankfully God had a strong hold on you that you could still see light. We become strong in character based on our experiences and how we maneuver through them. Yours have produced a BEAUTIFUL Soul. Prayers for continued healing and strength. You are Blessed. 💕
You can see how much therapy she has done around this. She is able to speak so eloquently and rationally about her experience
I am inclined to think she us just like that kind of rational and eloquent person and not to necessarily attribute that to therapy.
"If you were in a cult - you are a victim" - Leah Remini
True, though you don't have to live in victimhood. You can be a survivor.
Also, if you are in a cult you are a perpetrator. Both things can be true.
@@DanielleBroadawayAmen
Not always the case.
@@melaniemitchell9419 than which is it? I’ve been in one and I can see it both ways as well. I think it just depends what and the situation itself ya know 🤷🏻♀️
Congratulations on your bravery Bethany and thank you for sharing your story for the rest of the world to be cautious and vigilant.
She seems like a very genuine, kind person. I like her Hallmark work a lot.
Thank you Bethany for sharing such a personal & inspiring story! You express such profound wisdom as you walk through the journey of healing & restoration. A wisdom I take to heart in my own battles for healing. I will pray for you as you continue this journey, Bethany! Thank you again for being such an inspiration to me!
I'm a non demoninational Christian and was never in a cult but do feel like a lot of Christians knock and dismiss everyone else's religion or way of life . I don't agree or have to believe in the same God as you but I do have a very open heart and mind and a very curious personality just like Joy . I think she describes it well . I do feel like not my dad but my mom raised me with a close minded mindset and to dismiss others opinions and beliefs . At 27 , I don't believe in doing that any longer . It's not healthy and very toxic and I just feel like we can all still be friends even if we believe in a different God .
I'm pretty sure it's the "same God" but just with "different names" 🤔.
@retrogal1520 There are churches who say they believe in God, but its not really God.
@@JYYB sad but true.
Fair play to you for coming through that Joy. You were always strong and virtuous...and well, you brought us Hayley! A special mention to your father who never gave up and compiled that dossier. I'd do the same for my daughter. Keep the faith
Thanks for sharing. I wish God gives you many many movies in the years to come.
Thank you for sharing! I relate- also evangelical background. I still struggle with trusting myself, trusting others, and trusting God and who He actually is vs who I was told He was. I have yet to find my community after breaking away, so it is often a very lonely and complicated road. And those still there make sure to gaslight me into trying to believe spiritual abuse isn’t real and that I am over exaggerating their cultness.
Exact same. Hugs to you.
She's so eloquent!
God bless you I am so happy for you that you got out of that situation! May the Lord bless your life as the Journey you are on.
A marvelous interview, Bethany Joy! This caught my eye as you are one of my favorite actresses on Hallmark Movies! I will watch a Hallmark Movie over and over again if you are in it! You are a wonderful and very talented actress! I am looking forward to seeing my People Magazine with you on the cover! Wonderful choice! I will also look forward to your book! I am sure your message will reach a lot of people! Thank you for your informative words!🩷🌼🩷
You are one of my favorite actresses! Love and prayers for you and your daughter!💕🙏🏽
Perfect interview! Adore Joy so much ❤
Such an honest conversation. Thank you ❤
Her journey is of freedom. And throwing religion and cult titles trying to put her experience under a title cannot fully paint the on going process of just being a unique child of a loving HEAVENLY FATHER. And the beauty of discovering you have a gift to offer so the universe can listen and learn too.
I still think she is one of the most physically attractive people I’ve ever laid eyes on. It is crazy how easy on the eyes. My goodness.
She was one of crushes as a teen since One tree hill. Something about her is so gorgeous i cant put my eye on it it's because she is very unique looking. She looks mixed.
(If you ever see this) You are such a role model, Joy. I have been a fan since hearing you sing on Season 1 of OTH. I loved your arc on greys too and makes me think you would have made a much better Lily Bloom than Blake Lively. Your self awareness and reflection speaks volumes. It was truly amazing meeting you in person last year and hearing you sing live in Wilmington. Can’t wait to read your book.
I loved this interview, well Bethany on sharing your story and helping so many people 💓
I feel like Bethany could create a successful lifestyle brand. Something similar to what Reese Witherspoon has done. There’s something very authentic about her.
I remember having a crush on her for years because my ex used to watch One Tree Hill all the time. She still looks great.
Glad you awoke...Loved you in A Biltmore Christmas
Sounds so interesting. Will be reading her book!!
What was the name of the cult?
The Big House
Love Joy and love this interview
I get she may never return to the OTH reboot because when she was in the show she was in a cult… but OTH is basically the Hayley Scott show.
hoyl cow, this hits home as an exmormon
I'd say that any religion that threatens its members with excommunication can definitely be classified as a cult.
oh I love her
This is gorgeous
This is a very important conversation to have!!! Thank you for being so open and honest about this tricky topic, Bethany! 👏☺
I think anyone who has been or is currently being manipulated (in whichever form it may take) can find solace in another victim's insights.
Remember anyone can be brainwashed! And those who come through (sometimes after questioning their whole belief system) and make it to the other side are some of the strongest and bravest people there are!!! 💪😤
I must have missed where she said the name of the cult. Is this not essential to her story (and helpful if one would like to avoid it)?
I totally thought this was Hillary Duff…
I can see that, but they sound completely different
Was she in the cult while she was doing one three hill?? What’s the timeline?
Yes. She joined during the very beginning of One Tree Hill, and remained in it for the entire length of the show. About ten years in total.
Which cult was this?
Wild Branch Ministries... Also know as The Big House and the founder was her father-in-law
Wow….that close of a relationship to the TOP DOG of this cult ! Her husband was brainwashed too and couldn’t see through that fog. Thanks the Lord, Bethany figured it out and saved herself and baby girl. This interview was exceptional well done. She is very eloquent in speech and her thoughts are clear and genuine. I see that she is a good writer , looking forward to reading her book. I very much enjoyed any show that I saw her in. Excellent actress. I hope good fortune finds her often as she continues to rebuild her life for herself and her daughter. I always pray for angels to Hoover over myself and my family and put that dome of protection over us as we move through life , help us discern what is good and what is evil because Satan is actively looking for ruinous souls. Just know that GOD never sleeps , He is the only one that Satan will not share space with because he is diminished in God’s pure light.
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I’ve always thought that, too!!
So was she in a cult while doing OTH?
I thought for a second she was Hillary Duff.
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No one held you there. So it's ok. You chose to go, you chose to leave.
Stop saying 'i was in a cult'. You weren't captivated.
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Omg
Of course you can learn from those that think differently from you or are not believers in Christ. You just can't learn everything from them.
She look like Hilary duff with blond hair
2:07 brainwash
I was raised IFB. It was definitely a cult
I apologize in advance because I am grumpy, sleep deprived, and very crampy on my period so this comment is a hormonal rampage of unreasonable outrage: BUT! What an absolutely awful video to promote a book. And not because of the actress 😅 PEOPLE needs to give more context for this interview for any of it to make sense. It popped up on my feed and as someone who knows nothing about this actress or the situation, all I know is she struggled but not how, when, why, etc. The cult isn’t named and more importantly its beliefs aren’t described AT ALL so we have literally no information to connect these 10 minutes to the words she is saying. She’s sharing her struggles, suffering, and lessons so earnestly yet it’s edited into this video that doesn’t tell us once what the struggle was (she was in a cult and we don’t know why it was difficult to be in or why it was difficult to leave - other than the surprise plot twist that her husband is also in the cult as if we were just supposed to know - we just know that it was difficult. In a proper promo for a topic such as this I’d also expect a link to a resource/website for anyone in a similar position to the actress who may need support. On a hormonal day like today this is just wild and outrageous to me and makes me sad for the actress to get THIS as the result of her interview. But on a good day, I’d bet money I’d be annoyed and surprised. Well, I’m done with my rant 🙃😩😮💨
What cult was she in
I think it was called “The Big House Family”
I was scrolling to find this too
And why does she let her daughter near the father he's the cult leaders son
Wild Branch Ministries, also known as The Big House, whom founder was her father-in-law
@@heathertapper-gq6pk I don’t think she has a choice. Scientology is a cult to me but if my ex husband were a member he would still be granted visitation and/or joint custody unless I could prove it would be harmful to my children. The freedom of religion comes into play would be my opinion on why she has to allow that. Which most cult leaders have a separation to defectors from their “church”- I guess that depends too. Or at least that what I have learned from documentaries and books on escaping cults.
Organized religion, cult.
What cult was she in? Scientology??
I googled it. "The big house family"
“Most assuredly, I say to you, he who hears My word and believes in Him who sent Me has everlasting life (present), and shall not come into judgment (future), but has passed from death into life (past).” There are 66 books total. Please read John, Romans, 1 John, and Revelation. Use an accurate translation like the KJV, NKJV, or NASB. He loves us immensely. All we must do to be saved is believe in Him.
I am a Christian, but I don’t believe that everything we need is in the Bible. There are many extra biblical interventions that are helpful, for one thing, therapy, healing groups. We are, at times, all vulnerable in our lives that leave us open to manipulation and gaslighting. And to say that everything we need is in the Bible is overly simplistic.
Ironic comment given her involvement in this cult started with bible study...
Not all spirituality/religion outlets are all the same 🩷 they are run by humans and we are all broken and imperfect
Not appropriate 🤨
“All you have to do to be saved” … that’s not love. That is conditional acceptance.
All religions and faiths are cults. Joy claims to still be Christian even after leaving the cult. She's still in the cult. She just went from one to another.
Being Christian does not mean you're in a cult. It doesn't even mean you're religious. Christianity ≠ Religion. A lot of Christians don't even go to church on a regular basis.
Totally disagree with you on this statement. You clearly no nothing about religion. Educate yourself.
@@Tammy-pj2htUh oh, saying "educate yourself“ practically guarantees you will make a mistake in your comment. 😄
Very overgeneralised statement you just made. If that's the case please generalise further. Every club is a cult. Every country is a cult.
👏👏👏 Religion is a cult. I stepped back from Christian teachings and my whole life got better. Practicing Love without judgement and self awareness/acceptance without the “shame” they teach has been absolutely life changing. You can have family and community and support, without clinging to toxic religious beliefs.
the islam has very clear rules which really helps because its from the true and only god.
the other religions are rules from the human and so very flawed and confusing..
Yes, of course, it the least tolerant religion out there and don’t pretend it’s women friendly. Two of my female friends were married to Muslim men ( one Turkish and one Egyptian - one of the more modern Islamic cultures btw) who were beating them up and the husbands’ relatives didn’t say a word acted as if that’s a norm ( because it’s that common!!) Unless the woman is from a rich family ( richer than a husband) or lives in a Western country, nobody in Islamic culture cares about her rights!! That’s the harsh reality!!